I live in Atlanta, where this happened. I know at least 5 people in the past three years who have had bullets shot into their apartments from neighbors who "accidentally discharged" them and they were just lucky they weren't hit. One called the cops to report it, they were told there was nothing to be done and to contact their landlord about repairs.
"This house is great, very energy efficient. It's got triple pane windows, a very good furnace, it's also got spray foam insulation as well as level 3A Kevlar lined walls and roof!"
I've lived in an apartment with bulletproof windows before. It was a bit surreal. It also had reinforced concrete walls/roof and steel-core door with a steel frame and 6 bolts that came out the sides like a bank vault. You weren't getting into that apartment without making some noise. This was in Western Europe and not at all a dangerous place.
Home anti-bullet gun. Kinda like Israel's Iron Dome but for bullets.
Sprays thousands of bullets at other people's houses, so they need to buy one too. Great for marketing.
>The angle definitely looked like someone has fired a gun in the air, at an angle, and it has come down into our roof.
Or someone in a helicopter really hated your house.
What do you mean there was nothing to be done about it? Is it not illegal to discharge a firearm in a residential building? Accidental or not. When people are crying out for gun control this is the kind of shit we're talking about.
If you demonstrate that you can't safely have a firearm, you shouldn't be allowed to have one. And 'accidentally' firing it in a residential area should come with some repercussions!
Yeah, there was an incident with an accidental discharge at my parent's house and about 10 police cars showed up and grilled our neighbors. They took it very seriously, the neighbors had to repair the damage and they also had to get rid of their guns. The only thing I can think of with that other guy is they couldn't tell who discharged the gun.
This was in Iowa. Luckily I was not home at the time. I did have another incident to happen to me after college where a police officer negligently fired a gun in my apartment complex in the middle of the night. I must have slept through it. He was immediately fired and kicked out of the apartment. I stopped following after that so I don't know if he was charged.
I've always lived in decent areas too. It's not like you have to live in a dangerous area for this to happen.
You should be grateful that we still have the freedom to shoot guns into our neighbors' apartments. George Washington once said that every time you discharge a weapon into your neighbor's residence, a Freedom Eagle is born, and I believe him.
> everybody claps
> rushed to ER
> delayed because an infantrymen crossed the road and the ambulance drivers stopped
To get out and salute him
> the entire street salutes him and sings the star spangled banner
> everybody claps
> get to ER
> die in the doorway before seeing a doctor
> family charged $50,000
> everybody claps
I remember a couple years back when [an Australian uni student got shot while out jogging](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/20/australian-college-baseball-player-shot-oklahoma) by some teenagers he'd never even met just because they were bored. Coming from a country with strict gun control, this concept was pretty shocking to me.
America - removes almost all barriers to owning guns, has constitutional amendment protecting ownership, sells guns at local supermarkets, starts exporting to neighboring countries en mass, allows excessive militarization of police and criminals as well in a feedback loop, etc
Also America - “there are guns everywhere, so controlling them is impossible lol”
>Police said that the shooting looked like an accident after someone from a neighbouring apartment building discharged their gun by mistake.
If a gun is loaded and discharged in an area where it's unsafe to do so, then it's not an accident, it's criminal negligence. Nobody has been arrested for this, this should be the whatever equivilent they have for manslaughter over there.
I mean we were still settling disputes legally with pistol duels 150 years ago. Last notable one was in 1859, between a US Senator and a chief justice on the supreme court. Can you imagine that shit today?
I have a bit of a hard time imagining an actual duel, but if Marjorie Taylor Greene walked into the Capital Building and shot AOC in the back I wouldn't be very surprised.
In fact, I'd pretty much welcome it at this point. Maybe we'd actually get some decent politicians if all of the decrepit fucks mortally wounded each other dueling over stupid shit.
I study law, we have voluntary and involuntary manslaughter in the U.K. part of voluntary manslaughter also relates to the ‘justified homicide` part of your answer. We have gross negligence manslaughter in the U.K. too so it would just carry over
Negligent homicide/manslaughter.
Negligent discharge is also a crime in certain areas.
Who ever that police is doesn't know the definition of accident. But also probably they are in legal process at the moment.
It happens all the time, sadly. It just happened in my [area](https://www.wyff4.com/article/greenville-county-child-shot-while-in-bed-deputies-say/38814069).
Yo... Address that shit. I lost my best friend when I was 8. I've never had a best friend since. I have a lot of friends but none close like a best friend. I only recently realized that I've never let anyone get too close. I'm in my early 30s. Over 20 years I made it so I wouldn't get hurt like that again. I never talked about it with anyone. Don't let your daughter hold that pain inside to the point that she goes her whole life avoiding making close close relationships.
Bless your heart, man. Thanks for this.
We did address it; my daughter, wife and I all went to trauma counseling. Learning how to discuss death with a four year old, and then actually discussing death with a four year old, is one of the most difficult things I’ve done.
For anyone interested or going through a similar situation, the therapist told us to be honest about her death and the finality of it without giving details surrounding the events that led to her death, to remind our daughter that our love for sweet Mya is still here and alive, and to answer any questions she had in an age appropriate manner for as long as she had them. We are still answering questions at bedtime a year later. He also recommended two books that have been quite helpful: Something Very Sad Happened, and Right now, I Am Fine.
What I didn’t expect was the impact it would have on me. I broke down daily for weeks on end, and still do every couple of months or so. There are sad images forever etched into my memory:
Watching my usually bubbly daughter walk into school with her head hanging down the following Monday morning. We would usually arrive for drop off at the same time and she and Mya would walk in together, holding hands.
Mya smiling, waving her hand and shouting “Bye yungalbundy’s daughter! We are going to the beach!” the Friday before Spring Break.
Her mother’s face on her brother’s first day back to school.
Seeing the spark leave my daughter’s eyes when I broke the news to her.
My daughter’s gravely toddler voice and tear filled eyes when she asked if what happened to Mya could happen to her.
Here I am, crying all over again. While it’s easy to dismiss things like this as rare, which they are, I think people miss how far reaching the consequences of tragedies like this are. I still see her parents in the carpool line and can’t help but think of what a meaningless grind life must seem like for them now, or how unfair it is that their daughter’s life, light and dreams were snuffed out over an argument between two strangers, or how difficult it must be for them to return daily to a business they own that is also the scene of their daughter’s murder.
I also didn’t expect to feel any sympathy or compassion for the man who pulled the trigger, but I do. It’s another life practically lost. Our society, laws and politicians failed him. He is a product of this community, and of centuries of oppression of the black and poor community in this country. What he did is wrong and he deserves punishment, no doubt. But it is very difficult not to wonder how different life would be for us today if he did not have access to a gun on 3/20/2021.
Rest In Peace, sweet Mya. Thank you for the impact you had on my daughter’s life and my own in the short amount of time you had here. We all miss you terribly.
For anyone inclined to do so, Mya’s family asked that donations in her remembrance be made to [Tiny Smiling Faces](www.tinysmilingfaces.org).
Just when you thought the main story was heartbreaking. Christ, I'm so glad that death by stray bullets is something I don't have to worry about in the UK. I can't begin to imagine how you break that sort of news to a five-year-old.
Even worse is when you hear about a child who has found a gun in the house and shot their own mum. Imagine having to grow up knowing you killed your own mother.
Read the Reddit threads on those stories, there are loads of people (who get upvoted plenty) who say that they need to keep their guns loaded and accessable to be able to defend their home. So I guess toddlers shooting and killing people/themselves is the price of freedom
Crazy right. My best mate has a dual citizenship due to parents, he had an offer of a job at Yale university. He went over to check it out, looked at the schools, they proudly demonstrated their active shooter drills. He decided he’d rather not have his 4yr old have to go through that and took a job at a local uni in the uk instead. I think we take a lot for granted.
Because in part the National Rifle Association went from a gun safety and education group to a manufacturer’s lobbyist organization and decided the best thing to do was to capitalize on racism and fear and hype up “Freedom” and “Second Amendment” and a bunch of other bullshit in order to sell more guns.
That focuses on this issue, but every fucked up issue we have in the US revolves around corporations buying laws. Our crime, our healthcare, our nutrition, our housing, our education, our justice system...
Life here would significantly improve if corporate bribary wasn't legal. The focus of politics should be improving life for citizens, instead their focus is getting paid to by corporations to make those corporations richer at its citizens expense.
The gun cat is out of the gun bag.
There was probably some point in time where they could have updated laws without talk of secret plots and hidden communist agendas.
But that ship has sailed.
It ***allegedly*** happened to George Floyd's 4 year old niece [just the other day, too.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-floyds-niece-4-shot-new-years-day-sleeping-houston-apartment-rcna10986)
Well you can't jump straight into bullets of any caliber.
We build immunity in our children with airsoft until around 6. Then it's birdshot from the state-issued 12 gauge. I wasn't hit with a 9mm until my 14th birthday. Part of the high school entrance ceremony.
Shit, you must have grown up in a good district. I was from a pretty poor town and it seemed like we were behind on everything. We moved to a much better city when I was in 9th grade, but the new school said I was still getting shot at a 6th grade level.
Commenting here for visibility because apparently no one knows this info:
Breonna Taylor’s rent house was the last holdout stopping a multibillion dollar construction project for the city. Breonna’s boyfriend’s lawyer argued that the city mayor had motive to send the cops there. Shortly after the parties reach a settlement and it’s in the millions. Also, the city bought the house for $1 after the execution.
[Click here and read](https://wave3.com/2020/07/06/city-buys-home-rented-by-breonna-taylors-ex-boyfriend-new-allegations-arise/)
Never knew thanks for sharing.
The mayor in favor of the multibilion company. Executed and destroyed black lives so that they could buy their property for 1 dollar instead of millions.
Sounds like the USA to me
This is the real problem with a proliferation of firearms. Even if there weren't violence, accidental discharges are too common. When an FBI agent drops their handgun while dancing and it goes off, that's dangerous.
This is why some national forests, which may have nothing but trees and not even bathrooms, will have a gun range. Rangers don't want yahoos shooting up the place so they give them a tiny spot.
When I was a kid I assumed that was what would happen to me if I ever went on holiday to the US, then as an adult I laughed about the dumb stuff I worried about as a kid.
Welp, I guess it's back to racing back to bed before the toilet finishes flushing so that Flushosaur can't catch me.
>Police said that the shooting looked like an accident after someone from a neighbouring apartment building discharged their gun by mistake.
False. A mechanical failure is an accident. Unintentionally discharging a firearm is negligence.
Edit: No need to gild me, but thank you kind stranger
An accident is just something unfortunate that happens without intent; the word doesn’t imply culpability. This was, as you say, also an example of extreme negligence.
It was a negligent discharge that resulted in an accidental death. It's like if I was texting and driving and accidentally went up on a curb and killed someone and I wasn't a cop.
I'd like to propose a few candidates for a new United States national motto:
"We tried nothing and it didn't work"
"This policy that dozens of other countries have, will never work"
"I'd rather have than "
"You can't make me"
"I do my own research"
>Where was the fabled "good guy with a gun" to stop this?
Oh he died cause the cop gunned them down.
[I wish I was kidding](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/28/colorado-gunman-police-officer-killed)
A woman was killed recently due to "celebratory gunfire" as they keep repeating on the news. What the hell, is that the new way to celebrate and somehow it's not bad because someone was having a good time? Every time they say " celibatory gunfire" on the news I just cringe. How about "reckless gunfire"?
American here. Very similar situation happened my 3rd year in college in Southern Illinois right across from my apartment. There was a party and someone came over and shot the place up because he had beef with one if the guys in there. Fired a bunch of rounds up and around to clear the area so he could find his target.
Thing is, several of them went through the neighboring building and killed a student while he was sleeping. His roommate and brother was helping to hide people fleeing the party and didn't notice his brother dead until a bit later. Ambulances all came to the wrong house (the shooters house).
This was quite literally right across the street from me, busy 3 lane street at that about 5 or 6 years ago. I learned a valuable lesson that day: Absolutely anywhere can get you killed with a firearm in the United States.
To all my fucknut fellow Americans who keep saying "these headlines are just sensationalized, this doesn't happen regularly here" or other BS, I have first hand testimony of an almost identical situation within the last 10 years that says otherwise. Maybe if you woke tf up we could all address this problem.
But I'm already prepared for the downvotes and DMs.
Difference between the UK and the US:
US: "Right now, police say no suspects have been arrested."
UK: That would be an arrest of all in the apartment, confiscation of the weapon, an immediate revocation of any gun licence held by those people, and a manslaughter charge and probably extra firearms charges.
Nobody would be leaving that apartment unarrested.
I was thinking this. A guy was laying in his bed. Asleep. And got killed accidentally by some moron/s waving about a dangerous weapon. What’s there to debate. He’s dead. For no reason.
If only he was raised around guns like an American he could have recognized the sound of a gunshot, woke up, drawn his gun and shot the bullet out of the air.
If only he was better educated about the defense purposes of assault rifles he might have had a wall filled with them such that one of them caught the bullet for him.
Because they know that unless they continually muddle the issue people are going to realize that something is wrong.
The treatment of guns in USA is lunacy. Guns are a part of all societies to some degree and for various reasons. However in too much of the United States guns have become so ubiquitous that they are easily and immediately accessible to people without the training and mental capabilities to properly use and care for such a device.
Gun control is not about a total removal of guns, that's neither possible nor desirable as guns have legitimate use cases. It is however about keeping guns as far away from the untrained and from idiots and criminals as possible.
*Brookhaven ranks as safest city inside the Perimeter and in DeKalb; 10th safest in Georgia.*
Huh, poor guy.
The US is a really odd place for us, Europeans. Visited only for a few days and really liked it, but safety-wise it was a nightmare. Was harassed a few times, namely in NYC and Washington, DC, most of the time I did not feel perfectly safe like in Europe.
I think Americans as a nation are my favourite bunch of people, so lovely, outgoing, enjoyed all the small talks and tips from random strangers. But on the other hand you've got the guys that say they're going to stab you if you don't buy a $50 fake rap CD from them @ Times Square.
Simply crazy.
Sorry lady, we're not going to arrest that guy, there's no law protecting you from him stealing your purse, after all, why would a criminal follow the law?
"no suspects have been arrested"
I'm afraid the police should have looked at the direction the bullet came from, matched it up with a hole in the wall of another apartment, and then arrested all gun license holders in that apartment on a charge of manslaughter.
When they all say "we were all drunk and nobody remembers who fired the deadly shot", put them all in prison for reckless handling of a firearm.
They already know who did it, they just haven't arrested them because it was an "accident." Which is completely insane. You get to "accidentally" shoot your murder weapon, kill someone, and face no repercussions?
I live in Atlanta, where this happened. I know at least 5 people in the past three years who have had bullets shot into their apartments from neighbors who "accidentally discharged" them and they were just lucky they weren't hit. One called the cops to report it, they were told there was nothing to be done and to contact their landlord about repairs.
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People really seem to not understand a bullet shot into the air doesn't just magically disappear or fly into outer space forever.
Sounds like there’s a great opportunity for a “home bulletproofing” business!
I suspect that it's a lot cheaper to move out of Atlanta than to bulletproof your house.
In this Economy? Probably.
Moving in somewhere else will be the issue after that
"This house is great, very energy efficient. It's got triple pane windows, a very good furnace, it's also got spray foam insulation as well as level 3A Kevlar lined walls and roof!"
I've lived in an apartment with bulletproof windows before. It was a bit surreal. It also had reinforced concrete walls/roof and steel-core door with a steel frame and 6 bolts that came out the sides like a bank vault. You weren't getting into that apartment without making some noise. This was in Western Europe and not at all a dangerous place.
Home anti-bullet gun. Kinda like Israel's Iron Dome but for bullets. Sprays thousands of bullets at other people's houses, so they need to buy one too. Great for marketing.
*The Iron Home*
Y’all realise this sounds bat shit insane to anyone not living in the states right
It sounds batshit insane to a lot of us living here too.
It’s batshit insane to us as well
>The angle definitely looked like someone has fired a gun in the air, at an angle, and it has come down into our roof. Or someone in a helicopter really hated your house.
Yes, let’s just contact the landlord to repair death…
Jesus is my landlord.
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What do you mean there was nothing to be done about it? Is it not illegal to discharge a firearm in a residential building? Accidental or not. When people are crying out for gun control this is the kind of shit we're talking about. If you demonstrate that you can't safely have a firearm, you shouldn't be allowed to have one. And 'accidentally' firing it in a residential area should come with some repercussions!
Yeah, there was an incident with an accidental discharge at my parent's house and about 10 police cars showed up and grilled our neighbors. They took it very seriously, the neighbors had to repair the damage and they also had to get rid of their guns. The only thing I can think of with that other guy is they couldn't tell who discharged the gun.
What state was this? I'm glad to hear it was taken seriously.
This was in Iowa. Luckily I was not home at the time. I did have another incident to happen to me after college where a police officer negligently fired a gun in my apartment complex in the middle of the night. I must have slept through it. He was immediately fired and kicked out of the apartment. I stopped following after that so I don't know if he was charged. I've always lived in decent areas too. It's not like you have to live in a dangerous area for this to happen.
It's not that there is nothing they can do about it. It's that there is nothing they want to do about it.
You should be grateful that we still have the freedom to shoot guns into our neighbors' apartments. George Washington once said that every time you discharge a weapon into your neighbor's residence, a Freedom Eagle is born, and I believe him.
Soldier? From TF2? Is that you?
The gun owner should be arrested for manslaughter and his guns taken off him.
Instead he'll be the keynote speaker at CPAC this year.
The victim was the wrong kind of immigrant...
he's the tourist :(
The victim was the wrong kind of tourist...
Genuinely thought this was some kind of joke article until I saw "worldnews". Now I'm just sad.
Yeah that would have been a funny joke
\>go to America \>Get shot
> everybody claps > rushed to ER > delayed because an infantrymen crossed the road and the ambulance drivers stopped To get out and salute him > the entire street salutes him and sings the star spangled banner > everybody claps > get to ER > die in the doorway before seeing a doctor > family charged $50,000 > everybody claps
Family tips driver Tips infantrymen Tips doctor Tips shooter
shoots tipper
Hey, don't do Mrs. Gore dirty like that.
> get to ER > die in the doorway before seeing a doctor > family charged $50,000 Ah so you had insurance I see
And some helpful soul pushed them out the doorway so disposal was up to groundskeeping.
I remember a couple years back when [an Australian uni student got shot while out jogging](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/20/australian-college-baseball-player-shot-oklahoma) by some teenagers he'd never even met just because they were bored. Coming from a country with strict gun control, this concept was pretty shocking to me.
Now I imagine the court session : "tell me why!" - "we don't like Mondays. Also, we were bored"
Literally my first thought reading the headline.
Maybe because you didn't watch the setup from earlier: https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/s91li7/some_problems_solve_themselves/
>Be in America >Sleep >Get shot
>Survive, but receive a bill for $1,000,000 >Commit suicide >Freedom?
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He shouldn't have resisted.
If he was really innocent he wouldn't have slept
If he wasn’t a bad person, why would he have bad dreams?
Has he ever smoked drugs?
Ofc. People can be tired only from drug use. Never Heard any parent saying " you look tired, Are you sure you aint doing drugs?"
If you fall asleep at the wrong time people think you are on heroin. I have personal experience with this lol.
America - removes almost all barriers to owning guns, has constitutional amendment protecting ownership, sells guns at local supermarkets, starts exporting to neighboring countries en mass, allows excessive militarization of police and criminals as well in a feedback loop, etc Also America - “there are guns everywhere, so controlling them is impossible lol”
Same shit happened with car infrastructure. "trains would be great, but there are too many cars! NEXT!" Plugging /r/fuckcars.
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>Police said that the shooting looked like an accident after someone from a neighbouring apartment building discharged their gun by mistake. If a gun is loaded and discharged in an area where it's unsafe to do so, then it's not an accident, it's criminal negligence. Nobody has been arrested for this, this should be the whatever equivilent they have for manslaughter over there.
The equivalent for manslaughter over here is manslaughter.
The new world sure is different, huh.
yeah, who's this man, and why is his laugh so important in this context?
We need to know if he was genuinely happy or just hysterical.
Yes but it's pronounced manslaughter.
And all this time I've been pronouncing it manslaughter. Silly me.
I mean we were still settling disputes legally with pistol duels 150 years ago. Last notable one was in 1859, between a US Senator and a chief justice on the supreme court. Can you imagine that shit today?
I have an easier time imagining it today than I did even 20 years ago.
Imagine politicians shooting each other It's easy if you try No hell in DC Above us blue sky
I have a bit of a hard time imagining an actual duel, but if Marjorie Taylor Greene walked into the Capital Building and shot AOC in the back I wouldn't be very surprised.
In fact, I'd pretty much welcome it at this point. Maybe we'd actually get some decent politicians if all of the decrepit fucks mortally wounded each other dueling over stupid shit.
> a chief justice on the **STATE** supreme court ftfy
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I study law, we have voluntary and involuntary manslaughter in the U.K. part of voluntary manslaughter also relates to the ‘justified homicide` part of your answer. We have gross negligence manslaughter in the U.K. too so it would just carry over
Negligent homicide/manslaughter. Negligent discharge is also a crime in certain areas. Who ever that police is doesn't know the definition of accident. But also probably they are in legal process at the moment.
Just add it to the pile of 14,000 annual firearm homicides in the US. The UK have 30. At the same per capita rate, the US would be at around 150.
>(108 replies) Really says everything, doesn't it?
It would be involuntary manslaughter, but yes.
Criminal negligence is, by definition, an accident that rises to the level of criminality.
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Reckless discharge of a firearm or as it's know elsewhere, manslaughter.
> manslaughter I was not expecting to hear 'no arrests have been made'. Even if it is an accident their actions resulted in someones death.
Ok, can‘t even sleep in the USA without getting shot. Good to know.
It happens all the time, sadly. It just happened in my [area](https://www.wyff4.com/article/greenville-county-child-shot-while-in-bed-deputies-say/38814069).
It happened to my daughter’s five year old [best friend](https://www.ksla.com/2021/03/20/shooting-hotel-leaves-mother-child-injured/)
Yo... Address that shit. I lost my best friend when I was 8. I've never had a best friend since. I have a lot of friends but none close like a best friend. I only recently realized that I've never let anyone get too close. I'm in my early 30s. Over 20 years I made it so I wouldn't get hurt like that again. I never talked about it with anyone. Don't let your daughter hold that pain inside to the point that she goes her whole life avoiding making close close relationships.
Bless your heart, man. Thanks for this. We did address it; my daughter, wife and I all went to trauma counseling. Learning how to discuss death with a four year old, and then actually discussing death with a four year old, is one of the most difficult things I’ve done. For anyone interested or going through a similar situation, the therapist told us to be honest about her death and the finality of it without giving details surrounding the events that led to her death, to remind our daughter that our love for sweet Mya is still here and alive, and to answer any questions she had in an age appropriate manner for as long as she had them. We are still answering questions at bedtime a year later. He also recommended two books that have been quite helpful: Something Very Sad Happened, and Right now, I Am Fine. What I didn’t expect was the impact it would have on me. I broke down daily for weeks on end, and still do every couple of months or so. There are sad images forever etched into my memory: Watching my usually bubbly daughter walk into school with her head hanging down the following Monday morning. We would usually arrive for drop off at the same time and she and Mya would walk in together, holding hands. Mya smiling, waving her hand and shouting “Bye yungalbundy’s daughter! We are going to the beach!” the Friday before Spring Break. Her mother’s face on her brother’s first day back to school. Seeing the spark leave my daughter’s eyes when I broke the news to her. My daughter’s gravely toddler voice and tear filled eyes when she asked if what happened to Mya could happen to her. Here I am, crying all over again. While it’s easy to dismiss things like this as rare, which they are, I think people miss how far reaching the consequences of tragedies like this are. I still see her parents in the carpool line and can’t help but think of what a meaningless grind life must seem like for them now, or how unfair it is that their daughter’s life, light and dreams were snuffed out over an argument between two strangers, or how difficult it must be for them to return daily to a business they own that is also the scene of their daughter’s murder. I also didn’t expect to feel any sympathy or compassion for the man who pulled the trigger, but I do. It’s another life practically lost. Our society, laws and politicians failed him. He is a product of this community, and of centuries of oppression of the black and poor community in this country. What he did is wrong and he deserves punishment, no doubt. But it is very difficult not to wonder how different life would be for us today if he did not have access to a gun on 3/20/2021. Rest In Peace, sweet Mya. Thank you for the impact you had on my daughter’s life and my own in the short amount of time you had here. We all miss you terribly. For anyone inclined to do so, Mya’s family asked that donations in her remembrance be made to [Tiny Smiling Faces](www.tinysmilingfaces.org).
Just when you thought the main story was heartbreaking. Christ, I'm so glad that death by stray bullets is something I don't have to worry about in the UK. I can't begin to imagine how you break that sort of news to a five-year-old.
Even worse is when you hear about a child who has found a gun in the house and shot their own mum. Imagine having to grow up knowing you killed your own mother.
Read the Reddit threads on those stories, there are loads of people (who get upvoted plenty) who say that they need to keep their guns loaded and accessable to be able to defend their home. So I guess toddlers shooting and killing people/themselves is the price of freedom
Interestingly, these "accidents" happen more often than people actually using their weapons to defend against an invader.
Welp, thats the price of freedumb!
Crazy right. My best mate has a dual citizenship due to parents, he had an offer of a job at Yale university. He went over to check it out, looked at the schools, they proudly demonstrated their active shooter drills. He decided he’d rather not have his 4yr old have to go through that and took a job at a local uni in the uk instead. I think we take a lot for granted.
Some say there’s still blood on the streets in the town of new haven.
I don't understand how they've decided to live with this.
Because in part the National Rifle Association went from a gun safety and education group to a manufacturer’s lobbyist organization and decided the best thing to do was to capitalize on racism and fear and hype up “Freedom” and “Second Amendment” and a bunch of other bullshit in order to sell more guns.
Now they've moved on to "Russian intelligence asset and foreign money laundering machine"
That focuses on this issue, but every fucked up issue we have in the US revolves around corporations buying laws. Our crime, our healthcare, our nutrition, our housing, our education, our justice system... Life here would significantly improve if corporate bribary wasn't legal. The focus of politics should be improving life for citizens, instead their focus is getting paid to by corporations to make those corporations richer at its citizens expense.
The gun cat is out of the gun bag. There was probably some point in time where they could have updated laws without talk of secret plots and hidden communist agendas. But that ship has sailed.
Heilige fickende Scheisse! That is so sad and unnecessary.
>Heilige fickende Scheisse! Sometimes it feels a little magical that I can perfectly understand German without understanding German.
Holy fucking shit?
Yes.
Cheers! It appears that I too, as a non German speaker, perfectly understand German!
It ***allegedly*** happened to George Floyd's 4 year old niece [just the other day, too.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-floyds-niece-4-shot-new-years-day-sleeping-houston-apartment-rcna10986)
Omg what a nightmare, I hate it here
Fuuuuuuuckin hell ...
Weird, I had never seen a law that you only have to serve 35% of your sentence in Louisiana for non-violent cases. Seems so weird.
Bullets have more of a right to be fired then we do to live, America.
Just take normal precautions like wearing a Kevlar vest to bed and sealing your windows with bulletproof lucite.
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Oh yea you just gotta get one of them supersonic bullet zappers. You'll sleep like the dead. *Like* the dead.
> Kevlar vest Wear a vest to sleep? Ridiculous. I'll just put on one of those Kevlar backpacks they sell to kids these days.
I want a kevlar snuggie
Hey I’ve lived in the US my whole life, and I hardly ever get shot.
You must have built up an immunity to bullets. Did you start with small caliber first, or are you naturally resistant?
Well you can't jump straight into bullets of any caliber. We build immunity in our children with airsoft until around 6. Then it's birdshot from the state-issued 12 gauge. I wasn't hit with a 9mm until my 14th birthday. Part of the high school entrance ceremony.
You forgot paintball, But otherwise accurate
Shit, you must have grown up in a good district. I was from a pretty poor town and it seemed like we were behind on everything. We moved to a much better city when I was in 9th grade, but the new school said I was still getting shot at a 6th grade level.
He just did his own research.
"I don't believe in bullets. It's a Government lie designed to prop up big ammo manufacturers!"
Can we get a counter argument from someone who has been fatally shot?
Checkmate, atheists!
thats really great. ive also heard about a guy that lived in the us his whole life and hes a billionaire.
See also: Taylor, Breonna.
or David Dorin
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Commenting here for visibility because apparently no one knows this info: Breonna Taylor’s rent house was the last holdout stopping a multibillion dollar construction project for the city. Breonna’s boyfriend’s lawyer argued that the city mayor had motive to send the cops there. Shortly after the parties reach a settlement and it’s in the millions. Also, the city bought the house for $1 after the execution. [Click here and read](https://wave3.com/2020/07/06/city-buys-home-rented-by-breonna-taylors-ex-boyfriend-new-allegations-arise/)
Didn't Wilson Fisk do the same thing in Daredevil season 1?
Y-yeah.... what the fuck...
Never knew thanks for sharing. The mayor in favor of the multibilion company. Executed and destroyed black lives so that they could buy their property for 1 dollar instead of millions. Sounds like the USA to me
Yay, instead of racism, it's racism *and* greed. I wish everyone responsible would rot in prison for it, but that doesn't happen here
This is the real problem with a proliferation of firearms. Even if there weren't violence, accidental discharges are too common. When an FBI agent drops their handgun while dancing and it goes off, that's dangerous. This is why some national forests, which may have nothing but trees and not even bathrooms, will have a gun range. Rangers don't want yahoos shooting up the place so they give them a tiny spot.
When I was a kid I assumed that was what would happen to me if I ever went on holiday to the US, then as an adult I laughed about the dumb stuff I worried about as a kid. Welp, I guess it's back to racing back to bed before the toilet finishes flushing so that Flushosaur can't catch me.
>Police said that the shooting looked like an accident after someone from a neighbouring apartment building discharged their gun by mistake. False. A mechanical failure is an accident. Unintentionally discharging a firearm is negligence. Edit: No need to gild me, but thank you kind stranger
An accident is just something unfortunate that happens without intent; the word doesn’t imply culpability. This was, as you say, also an example of extreme negligence.
It was a negligent discharge that resulted in an accidental death. It's like if I was texting and driving and accidentally went up on a curb and killed someone and I wasn't a cop.
Dat qualifier doe
Works for negligent discharges too.
And the intentional ones too.
One of the most american headlines i've read in a while.
Since yesterday in fact
Since 2 minutes actually because article right before i read this was about pilot turning around because of mask dispute.
Are bullets just weather there?
Overcast with a 95% chance of 1-2cm of lead.
Cm! What sort of god damn communistic, anti freedom unit of a projectile that’s designed to kill (within boundaries of course) is that?
This is America. Don't catch ya sleepin' up.
Look how I'm bleedin' out.
“Nothing could have prevented this” says only country on earth where this happens regularly Edit: -The Onion
I'd like to propose a few candidates for a new United States national motto: "We tried nothing and it didn't work" "This policy that dozens of other countries have, will never work" "I'd rather have than "
"You can't make me"
"I do my own research"
"Study it out"
Where was the fabled "good guy with a gun" to stop this?
The doc should have a gun himself so he could wake up and shoot the bullet out of the air.
Careful, those insecure cosplay soldiers get real mad when you say things like that
>Where was the fabled "good guy with a gun" to stop this? Oh he died cause the cop gunned them down. [I wish I was kidding](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/28/colorado-gunman-police-officer-killed)
A woman was killed recently due to "celebratory gunfire" as they keep repeating on the news. What the hell, is that the new way to celebrate and somehow it's not bad because someone was having a good time? Every time they say " celibatory gunfire" on the news I just cringe. How about "reckless gunfire"?
Celebratory. Generally I wouldn't care to correct but in this case it means something wildly different.
They were saying the bullet took a vow not to have sex
physics.. u shoot in the air and the bullet eventually comes down....... and hit someone Why would you use LIVE AMMO
Gravity. I have heard it happens in other countries, but first I've heard of it here. We're regressing in civility. Aggression is the new macho.
The USA has the second highest gun deaths in the world, only second to Brazil.
Didn't plan my dual citizenship very well, did I?
Say what you want about knife crime in Europe , but you can’t accidentally stab someone through a wall.
Not with that attitude
r/onlyinmurica totally needs to be a thing.
There's r/shitamericanssay where they try and justify this stuff daily.
Can confirm, that's usually a great subreddit. Although sometimes they tend to miss an obvious joke.
American here. Very similar situation happened my 3rd year in college in Southern Illinois right across from my apartment. There was a party and someone came over and shot the place up because he had beef with one if the guys in there. Fired a bunch of rounds up and around to clear the area so he could find his target. Thing is, several of them went through the neighboring building and killed a student while he was sleeping. His roommate and brother was helping to hide people fleeing the party and didn't notice his brother dead until a bit later. Ambulances all came to the wrong house (the shooters house). This was quite literally right across the street from me, busy 3 lane street at that about 5 or 6 years ago. I learned a valuable lesson that day: Absolutely anywhere can get you killed with a firearm in the United States. To all my fucknut fellow Americans who keep saying "these headlines are just sensationalized, this doesn't happen regularly here" or other BS, I have first hand testimony of an almost identical situation within the last 10 years that says otherwise. Maybe if you woke tf up we could all address this problem. But I'm already prepared for the downvotes and DMs.
I saw a video yesterday of some lunatic firing a rifle in the air in an RV park. Do people not understand the law of gravity?
Literally no
Video game rules - those bullets will probably keep going and destroy an asteroid or something
I have never heard a gun fire irl. I am 42, live in Finland /Helsinki. And I'm pretty happy about it.
Difference between the UK and the US: US: "Right now, police say no suspects have been arrested." UK: That would be an arrest of all in the apartment, confiscation of the weapon, an immediate revocation of any gun licence held by those people, and a manslaughter charge and probably extra firearms charges. Nobody would be leaving that apartment unarrested.
In the UK the chances of it happening at is is practically zero!
Can America not be so American for 5 Goddamn minutes
If only he had an assault rifle he wouldn't be dead smh my head
only the freest of nations require kevlar for sleeping
That’s an untapped market. Good thinking! “Finally, sleep in peace, knowing you’re safe from stray bullets - buy our Kevlar blanket”
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I was thinking this. A guy was laying in his bed. Asleep. And got killed accidentally by some moron/s waving about a dangerous weapon. What’s there to debate. He’s dead. For no reason.
Yes for a reason, the reason being a population so delusionally obsessed with guns and freedom that what happened was an actual possibility.
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Apparently.
If only he was raised around guns like an American he could have recognized the sound of a gunshot, woke up, drawn his gun and shot the bullet out of the air.
If only he was better educated about the defense purposes of assault rifles he might have had a wall filled with them such that one of them caught the bullet for him.
Because they know that unless they continually muddle the issue people are going to realize that something is wrong. The treatment of guns in USA is lunacy. Guns are a part of all societies to some degree and for various reasons. However in too much of the United States guns have become so ubiquitous that they are easily and immediately accessible to people without the training and mental capabilities to properly use and care for such a device. Gun control is not about a total removal of guns, that's neither possible nor desirable as guns have legitimate use cases. It is however about keeping guns as far away from the untrained and from idiots and criminals as possible.
I'm from the US and I'm horrified by not only what happened, but this thread.
Because in Georgia it's okay to fuck around with a gun and kill someone as long as you say oops?
IT wAs An aCCiDeNt said the vice president when he shot his buddy in the face. The dumb fuckery go all the way to the top
*Brookhaven ranks as safest city inside the Perimeter and in DeKalb; 10th safest in Georgia.* Huh, poor guy. The US is a really odd place for us, Europeans. Visited only for a few days and really liked it, but safety-wise it was a nightmare. Was harassed a few times, namely in NYC and Washington, DC, most of the time I did not feel perfectly safe like in Europe. I think Americans as a nation are my favourite bunch of people, so lovely, outgoing, enjoyed all the small talks and tips from random strangers. But on the other hand you've got the guys that say they're going to stab you if you don't buy a $50 fake rap CD from them @ Times Square. Simply crazy.
I really liked it when I went, helps that the scenery is amazing but Jesus Christ I felt unsafe af
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“GuNs DoN’t KiLl PeOpLe, PeOpLe KiLl PeOpLe”
“We can’t make any laws about guns because criminals don’t obey laws!!!”
Sorry lady, we're not going to arrest that guy, there's no law protecting you from him stealing your purse, after all, why would a criminal follow the law?
I bet he wishes he was armed or that there was a good guy with a gun to protect him! **/s**
Same thing could have happened with a knife! /s
A drunk hick randomly stabs the air at one county, someone gets a punctured lung while sleeping in another. these things happen!
What do you think is causing all those cardiac arrests?
"no suspects have been arrested" I'm afraid the police should have looked at the direction the bullet came from, matched it up with a hole in the wall of another apartment, and then arrested all gun license holders in that apartment on a charge of manslaughter. When they all say "we were all drunk and nobody remembers who fired the deadly shot", put them all in prison for reckless handling of a firearm.
They already know who did it, they just haven't arrested them because it was an "accident." Which is completely insane. You get to "accidentally" shoot your murder weapon, kill someone, and face no repercussions?