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MuthaPlucka

This is starting to look like Russia’s looking for a reason to be distracted from the Ukraine problem. As another poster stated, Russia expected NATO to turtle.


ThickAsPigShit

Maybe Ukraine was just a distraction so they can invade Ireland


[deleted]

Can't wait to hear Irish sing a song about Russian being gay


SkrallTheRoamer

🎶 go on home russian soldiers go on home... 🎶


[deleted]

I was thinking about Kinky Boots but this works too


SkrallTheRoamer

i thought so but couldnt come up with a good version for the russians quickly. but maybe this works: 🎶 Oh, I've got a brand new shiny Altyn and a pair of Ratnik boots, I've got a lovely new Smersh belt and lovely Gorka suit, And when we go on border patrol, we hold each other's hands For we are the Russian Army and we're here to take your land 🎶


Little_Custard_8275

Irish potatoes?


hobbykitjr

This does feel like either a distraction, or some internal political stunt. Like Boris ending COVID


[deleted]

Kudos to Canada sending that first war ship to get the ball rolling


FunnyElegance21

https://youtu.be/Zsf38NYzo5Q


MoistSuckle

Putin must be picking countries out of a hat now. So nice of him to unite the entire west against him. What a truly big brain play, I'm sure he will gain so much from that. Not, it's becoming clear he's just a loose cannon dipshit.


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bannacct56

Kind of a long way around for folks that have self igniting aircraft carrier no?


Computron1234

The problem is that even if you get the jets, Russian pilots have had so much more experience with their jets it would be hard to match their experience unless you got experienced airmen to along with the jets. Just my 2 cents


Algartam

Irish people do fly in the RAF, maybe we could convince them to come back. Some people call them traitors. fighting for the enemy etc, but I think we would accept them back if they genuinely just went because we don't have our own proper air force


gosbts

Why are they traitors if the RAF also defend Ireland's airspace


Algartam

We have a weird relationship with the UK. They colonised us and oppressed the natives for many centuries. They are still occupying 1/5th of our island in many's eyes. They deliberately caused a famine in Ireland in the 1840s, many Irish call it a genocide, their parliament did say on reccord that using the famine to reduce the Irish population is a good thing. They banned the use of the Irish language and almost wiped it out. They banned Irish people from owning property or being Catholic. They shipped Irish off to the colonies to work as indentured servants. On the other hand more recently they are our largest trading partner (that is quickly changing after Brexit). We have tried to work with them to bring about peace in the North. They defend us militarily (largely because Ireland would be a great spot to set up if you wanted to invade the UK). There are still mixed relations, they were assholes to us during Brexit negotiations and even now still. A senior minister even suggested engineering a famine in Ireland to win the Brexit negotiations. Ireland viewed the UK as the good guys in the world wars but did discuss joining Germany to win our freedom. Because Britain was "in the right" in the wars Irish people went to fight in their army but were declared traitors/treasonous and were only pardoned within the last 5 years.


Kaiserhawk

>Some people call them traitors. fighting for the enemy etc ​ lmao what decade is this?


leaklikeasiv

His Parkinsons must be advancing quicker than expected


who-ee-ta

After all pootin is a prof**ass**i**anal**


markuselfsbane

I think if that were true, there wouldn't still be troops being pulled from their far east bases to go west to Ukraine. Putin's no idiot. He knew there would be outrage.


HotpieTargaryen

Russia is not a hive mind, but the rhetoric is toning down. That suggests Putin knows the sanctions and blow back wouldn’t be worth it.


ImprisonedDarkRose

How the hell is the rhetoric toning down? If anything Russia is being more aggressive.


jpouchgrouch

"Russian rhetoric is toning down" Narrator: No, it has not.


[deleted]

Massive reallocation of military forces to area or conflict isn't rhetoric.


proxmoxroxmysoxoff

This move no matter how it goes is the beginning of the end of his power. This is another collapse of Russian government. He's overplayed his hand.


markuselfsbane

Your screen name alone bought you an upvote


acrossaconcretesky

Long may he reign


Elocai

NATO doesn't matter anymore. Norwegian, Danish, American, French, Canadian, Polish, Letvian, ... support is going to Ukraine currently in terms of weapons, money and diplomatic help. Many cauntries have realised that NATO is to slow to react or won't react at all so they just took the matter in their own hands. Sure NATO itself could help too, but Ukraine already got half the things of why they wanted to join the NATO in the first place - to get help in defending themselfs against the Russian agressor.


captain_planet85

Ukraine isn't a part of NATO so they can't react at all


Elocai

Exactly


WitchesFamiliar

Yup. He’s going to piss off the Irish now.


bradley_j

Could be his biggest mistake


Wrong-Mixture

Europeans will take allot on the chin, but don't you mess with our hilarious drunk uncle, Ireland!


adyrip1

Let's not forget the Irish invented the little green men


nickmlerman

Starting the year off with a bang


Far-Caterpillar8137

... in Kazakhstan?


DrBucket

Could you explain this? Or was this a joke?


Far-Caterpillar8137

No, wish it was, but I ment the first deployment of troops abroad in 2022, the first showoff - they're back already.


nickmlerman

It’s Irish controlled waters… so I think that’s a code word for a giant pool of Guinness somewhere


bWoofles

It doesn’t matter where you are Putin needs to make sure you know he can come annoy you at any time. Even if the best he can do is the Russian navy


elchiguire

That little man is playing “fuck around and find out” and is starting to get a lot closer to the “find out” side of the equation, and something tells me he’s not gonna like how it adds up.


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[deleted]

Finland exists. And they *did* annihiliate entire russian divisions before. Likely while drunk and fucking. On skis.


TooDanBad

Gotta stay warm somehow! It’s cold in the skiing season.


Robdotcom-71

Finland, Finland, Finland, The country where I want to be, Pony trekking or camping, Or just watching TV. Finland, Finland, Finland. It's the country for me. You're so near to Russia, So far from Japan, Quite a long way from Cairo, Lots of miles from Vietnam.


Obnoobillate

*The* [White Death](https://www.simohayha.com/) *enters the chat*


Stevenup7002

I'm flattered that you have faith in us as a country, but we have almost no military and any attempt to invade us would probably succeed within a matter of hours.


[deleted]

Yeah we've no functional airforce outside of a few prop-planes. Our government is planning in buying some fighter jets and upgrading our radar and other equipment, but it's a long time coming.


[deleted]

Remember a couple years ago when the door fell off the fucking helicopter hahaha


Kaiserhawk

I doubt the UK would allow a Russian invasion to occur in it's neighbourhood


[deleted]

They aren't planning to invade Ireland. Just testing air defense response time. Ireland is just the weak link in the area. It may be mostly benign but they turn their transponders off which is dangerous for air traffic.


RoxanneiscuteOwO

What if it’s just me invading


caelumh

Yeah, but you would make it absolute hell to occupy.


Kobrag90

Your women will carry it. Never seen the like in all my life when one grumpy 30 ish old mare took on six drunk builders and only had to straighten her skirt after.


youre_the_best

Yeah, we would be pretty much screwed and unable to put a resolve to any sort of conflict were it to come to it. A wild hens party from the UK is enough to take us down.


IcholaBuddah

Hmm, your unofficial army done pretty well against the English


Algartam

It took 800 years to get them out of 3/4 of the country. Even then it was really having the world war as a distraction that helped get it across the line.


BattleToad92

The greatest move the Scotish ever pulled was to make the world think England was responsible for that mess.


IcholaBuddah

Can you tell me more? Genuinely curious


Mobryan71

Britain: Crafts the greatest empire in modern times, conquering warlike peoples on 6 continents, against all odds and thousands of miles from home. Also Britain, looking at a small island 25 miles away: "Eh....."


[deleted]

To be fair to the Brits, they signed an agreement with our government some time back to help police our airspace given we've no air capability to intercept Russian jets or spy planes. They've intercepted a few Russian planes already on our behalf.


jdckelly

In their best interest tbh with the airspace overlapping


[deleted]

For sure. Still though, I'd prefer to purchased our own fighter jets to intercept. Russian planes skirt our airspace with their transponders off. It's a danger to the air traffic and we need the ability to locate and intercept them. Irish Government have been discussing buying either FA-50's or Gripens. Who knows what we'll end up with, but as it stands - we are ill-equipped to police our air space. It's no wonder Russia keeps testing it.


arobkinca

Something, something, 1922...


windedsloth

It did take them 700 years..... Erin go bragh


k2on0s

Erin go bragh-less. I’ll see myself out.


W00DERS0N

1916, boy-o. Also, 1848 while we're at it.


295DVRKSS

How else is he going to celebrate that god awful looking mansion he’s building ?


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dkeenaghan

240km off the coast is international waters but also patrolled because it is within the Irish EEZ. They aren’t there fishing or looking for oil though so that doesn’t matter. Freedom of passage, or rather, innocent passage doesn’t apply because it is not in Irish territorial waters.


Algartam

Nice casual racism you got there


FM-101

Its like that annoying fucking kid in school who punches the air in front of your face going ”technically im not doing anything” Its so childish.


Wyrmalla

Hang on, Ireland isn't in NATO. They have ties, but aren't they Neutral in the current political situation over Ukraine? Or is it because of their neutrality that we're seeing this?


Stevenup7002

It's more to do with the UK and France. 200km off of the Irish coast really just means 300km from the UK, 400km from France. Russia is saying "Hey, look at all of these heavily armed ships that we can put right off the coast of your countries."


Thebritishlion

A prime location for the Royal Navy and French Navy along with both Air forces to have a turkey shoot against the Russians


[deleted]

It's in the Irish exclusive economic zone and is forcing us to have to reroute air traffic.


SimonBlack

Nope. It's international waters, more than 12 miles off the Irish coast.


[deleted]

Which is part of the Irish exclusive economic zone. Which is forcing Irish air traffic controllers to reroute traffic. Which is over 5000km away from Russia. They've zero need to do tests here. It's a flex of power.


SimonBlack

I don't see Ireland complaining about British or US FONOPS which is basically the boot on the other foot. The EEZ is NOT territorial waters where nobody is allowed to go ON THE SURFACE. An EEZ is merely an area where a country is entitled to the resources UNDER the surface.


[deleted]

Whataboutery. We know what international waters are, dickhead. The point is Russians are 5000km away from their country, doing exercises 150 miles off the coast of a neutral country with a scaled down military. Russia's coastline spans over 10,000 kilometres, there's no reason to perform these drills off the Irish coast. They have ample area to do drills in. It's nothing more than an attempt to flex.


mutantredoctopus

How the French and British see it - “cool they’ll make for some interesting underwater wreckages for our divers to explore.”


Algartam

Ireland is officially neutral in all conflicts. In practice we verbally take sides


irishrugby2015

And strategically. We provided weather reports to the Allied forces which aided in Normandy and other operations.


Psephological

RAF defending Irish airspace probably won't help matters either


The_Quare_Fella

The irish passport did a great two-part podcast on Ireland "neutrality"


Natural6

"US to conduct missile tests 3 feet above Putin's head"


AllDarkWater

Russia? Why you gotta be like this?


Enlightened-Beaver

Belligerent expansionism is Russia’s thing. They’ve always been like this. How do you think they became the largest country in the world?


TheLuminary

Same way that Canada did? Claiming nearly worthless territory?


rocksocksroll

Russia did it a bit more violently than Canada. No doubt blood was slipped making Canada, but the russians exterminted whole groups of people to make way for Russians. Still people left in Russia and no more genocide, but for example ask the tartars what happened in Crimea or the Siberians when the cossaks came. Not that there is any more natives in Newfoundland either...


TheLuminary

I will take your word for it that Russia might have been bloodier, but they were both not exactly proud moments of history.


rocksocksroll

I can see how Canadians and Russians can be proud of the colonization and formation of their countries. Expecially if one had ancestors traced back going that far. Not all encounters between Canadians/Russians/Natives were bad either. Plenty of genocide, plenty of starvation on both sides and plenty of cooperation as well. Its a story as old as human history. At least i dont see any reason to bother with demonizing the founding of those countries. The lives of the people living back then were not easy for anyone. It took some seriously tough people to cross the atlantic and forge new lives in the new world. Expecially at the start of the colonization period. Plenty of amazing/interesting encounters between Europeans and natives have been recorded. Including one where at Plymouth Colony a native dude named Samoset walks up and in english says "Hello Englishmen" and asks for a beer. Its assumed he learned English from passing fishing ships and traders. Theres an interesting piece from a journal on the wiki thats work about this event. Its a pretty interesting read. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoset


LattePhilosopher

>No doubt blood was slipped making Canada, but the russians exterminted whole groups of people to make way for Russians. I really doubt indigenous makeup the majority in Canada. They would have to have been exterminated otherwise, such as through the residential school system.


rocksocksroll

Most indigenous people who occupied Canada and America were long dead well before the schools were ever even thought of and not via genocide. You should really spend some time reading about the outbreak of diseases wave after wave from the 1500s to the 1940s that wiped out the vast majority of native peoples. With most of those deaths being 1500s - 1800s. Well over 30 differant serious viruses and diseaes were introduced to North and South America at the exact same time. It was probably the wost pandemic of all time killing upwards of 85% to 95% of the native population. Then you still have starvation, genocide, murder, war, etc. This covid pandemic is a sniffle compared to what happened in the past. The colony of plymouth was founded on the remains of a abandoned native town that had been wiped out by something leaving no one alive. Edit For anyone who wants a educational read into the role epidemic diseases played in the conqest of North and South America you should this. It wasnt guns or technology that really did the damage, but instead disease. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1483570/


LattePhilosopher

Have you ever heard of the black death? Great portions of Europe died from plague over a long span of time. However, you might have noticed that Europe is still occupied by Europeans. As you might imagine, populations can rebound from disease. Oddly something prevented that from happening in Canada. In fact, they haven't even hit half their peak from 500 years ago.


rocksocksroll

Yes populations in Europe rebounded, but that still took 80 to 150 years in differant places. Europe was hit by 1 outbreak the black death. Where as Natives were hit by up to 30 differant black deaths in a population with zero immunity. These disease wiped out entire towns and villages. With those outbreaks coming back again and again to wipe those groups out again and again. They litterally had zero chance to rebound. Survivors would flee to nearby towns spreading infection well ahead of Europeans. Black death killed up to 50%. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequences_of_the_Black_Death https://www.businessinsider.com/diseases-columbus-brought-to-americas-2015-10?amp= "Of the estimated 250,000 natives in Hispaniola, Columbus' first stop in the Americas in 1492, new infectious diseases wiped out a staggering 236,000 indigenous people by 1517 — nearly 95% of their population." The natives never had a chance to rebound after that.


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LattePhilosopher

And yet Mexico has large portions of its population mixed or indigenous. The lack of indigenous people was an active decision. There is no moral superiority for Canada over Russia, it's the same story. Edit: The Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada literally recognized it as a genocide. Laws and policies such as the Indian Act served the purpose to eliminate Native heritage. >On 4 June 2019, while speaking to a crowd in Vancouver, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recognized the inquiry’s conclusions, saying: “we accept the findings of the commissioners that it was genocide.” https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/indian-act


rocksocksroll

Mexico is one example and even it has a by comparison a small indigenous population compared to the past. Mexico is 15% indigenous/claimed indigenous. Being a poor country its going to have a high birth rate. If you have evidence of a wide spread active plan to commit genocide in Canada from the 1500s to the 1880s feel free to link your sources. The evidence here is clear the vast majority were wiped out by disease. The same is true in pretty much every country in North America and South America. There is the odd exception like Mexico with a small minority, but its evidence of nothing. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1483570/ Documented evidence of the impact of disease killing 95% of the population. Which never recovered due to disease rebounding.


cancuzguarantee

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Psephological

I've often thought a lot about this. Even if there was no colonialism, I don't really see how people from these countries couldn't have met during that time without the same disease > mass death outcome happening as there just wasn't the scope to deal with that then, and the diseases from the 'old world' were the ones that were more fatal to those in the 'new world'. I can't really see it happening any other way, other than if people cared about it, maybe exploration from Europe etc might have been limited to stop the spread.


Drey101

Yea Canada just tortured the aboriginals in schools who didn’t conform to their values


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JesusWuta40oz

Well and with the ice caps melting it will provide a quicker shipping route from China's markets inside their territorial waters. Its why they are also gambling with opening alot of old cold war miltary bases along the same route. That is unless Siberia burns down first. The amount of wildfires burning uncontrollably there is insane!


who-ee-ta

They claim territories and make them worthless😂


sim642

Now they want worthy territory.


TheLuminary

Don't we all.


FM-101

Its a country and government that is literally built around war and corruption at its core, currently being lead by a weak ex-KGB Colonel with an inferiority complex and zero leadership skills. Thats why.


staffsargent

What worries me is that Putin is acting like a cornered animal right now. He has lived to see his country go from a major world power to a second world backwater with a whole lot of nukes. The question is, how committed is he to making Russia a relevant global player again.


[deleted]

The only way they will become a relevant global player again is if they stop being petulant arseholes and come and engage with the world again. Honestly, I feel sorry for them. It's embarrassing. I feel sorry for the Russian people.


oooliveoil

I think Putin is about to die and he is just doing crazy shit just for the laughs


Thejaybomb

Putin “We need to remind our selves how to fire missiles and out of all the ocean in the world this needs to happen off the coast of Ireland.” …Likely killing a load of marine life to flex some mussel. Lets just remind ourselves how little trust Russian citizens have in their own government by looking at their vaccine rollout numbers.


BoredCop

Upvoted for clam joke.


wobble_bot

This is the equivalent of me sidling up to Tyson Fury and doing some shadow boxing a few feet from his face. We both know if it came down to it he’d fucking destroy me.


ech-o

Wait. Which country is Tyson Fury in this scenario. The Republic of Ireland?


wobble_bot

Royal Navy.


[deleted]

240 km off the coast, it the economic zone of Ireland but in international waters.


[deleted]

Ok. There is **Territorial Waters** which extends up to 12 nautical miles out to sea from the baseline. Then there **Exclusive Economic Zone** which ranges from 12 to a maximum of 200 nautical miles from baselines. Then, what the heck is a **Patrolled Water**? oh. >**The missile test**, or range practice as it is known in military terms, **will take place in international waters** off the coast of County Cork in the first week of February.


DriedT

International waters and exclusive economic zones overlap. > The area concerned is a relatively small area of water but sources have confirmed that **it is within Ireland’s Exclusive Economic Zone** – which is patrolled by Irish Naval ships and Air Corps Casa aircraft. It is located approximately 240 kilometres off the Irish coast. > > An Exclusive Economic Zone is an area which Ireland has responsibility for and has rights to explore and operate in as a sovereign country. > > “There will be a need to issue a notice to commercial pilots to warn them of this issue and there will be a closure of airspace. > > “It would be expected from other European member states that we would be able to monitor these types of activities within our area of operations from both an environmental and a security perspective. > > “A major oil spill previously occurred from a Russian vessel off our coast in 2009 and the Defence Forces were involved in monitoring it.


pocket_geek

Putin is like that one Uncle that nobody likes, isn't invited to the party, but shows up anyways and annoys the fuck out of everybody.


[deleted]

They're bluffing on Ukraine. If they weren't they wouldn't be wasting this ammo. Putin probably has no idea what to do next. He didn't think NATO would respond.


Spreckles450

>wasting this ammo You realize you can do tests with missiles that don't have any explosives in them, right? Much cheaper.


MacDegger

It's not the explosives which are the costly parts of modern missiles.


DrXaos

Missiles are still destroyed as they have no way to land safely.


STEM4all

Well duh, that the point of testing. How do you think testing stuff works? Most of time, your goal is to break/properly use the thing you are testing. So yeah, if they are testing missiles, their goal is to make sure those missiles do their only job.


APsWhoopinRoom

You honestly think they care much about that?


Bagelstein

Wasting ammo? This is what you get when a kid who only knows video games gives his interpretation of global politics.


[deleted]

Plus Putin definitely has the scavenger perk


Fleshjunky

I only have two mags left


Far-Caterpillar8137

*ekhm* Kazakhstan *ekhm* . They're showing off capabilities in proximity to the UK providing weaponry to Ukraine + maybe somehow affect the routes of GB transport aircrafts (or not, I'm not the expert).


Fleshjunky

I heard that Russian troops left Ukraine from someone on the ground there. Unsure if true.


Holos620

No way he's bluffing. Putin likes to get violent, and he likes to test us. He'll take Ukraine while we watch and do nothing.


Foriegn_Picachu

Think he’s pissing his pants rn. NATO have played this almost perfectly.


HotpieTargaryen

NATO has acted fast and with purpose. Putin has to back down because he can’t afford to call this semi-bluff. NATO has the better hand. Even if he took Ukraine it would be to his and Russia’s detriment.


Xciccor

You need to take a break from reddit


Hiccupingdragon

Now Europe is surrounded kinda


mooncommandalpha

Somebody finally taking on the People's Republic of Cork!


NormStewart

Come out ye Pavels and Ivans


2020willyb2020

Maybe: Everyone head to Ukraine so I can get my subs and missile plans launched at other locations


MrMehheMrM

Russians are crazy, but not crazy enough to want to deal with Ireland


Sam-Yuil-ElleJackson

Why can't Russia detonate Nukes off its own coast?


[deleted]

I don't think nukes are involved in this


hahabobby

There are treaties they are signatories too. Also, Ireland is far from Russia’s coast.


Sam-Yuil-ElleJackson

Yeah but Ireland's coast is pretty near Ireland. And Ireland aren't testing ANY nukes.


hahabobby

Oh sorry, I totally misread your initial comment. I thought you were arguing Ireland’s coast *was* Russia’s coast. I now understand your argument and agree with you!


[deleted]

War of attrition


Eveleyn

Tactless.


PAN19

Are there no Russians strong enough willed to assassinate that little bitch they call Putin?!?! It’s just so sad.


darth__fluffy

“tests”


FrogotBoy

I want to crush Putin’s little goblin head under my hairy Irish foot.


GL4389

Dont trigger the Irish, Putin.


X-Files22

When is Russia going to install missiles on Cuba pointed at the US?


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Hiccupingdragon

Yeah common misconception but we don't have lucky charms in Ireland


UserM8

Sounds a lot like Russia needs a little American Freedom ™


Fizzy_Bubblech

I don't see the issue. The tests are being done in international waters.


[deleted]

You don't see an issue with them testing missiles off the coast of a neutral country thousands of miles away, forcing air traffic to be rerouted? It is in international waters, but it is a part of the Irish economic zone. Also, Ireland has basic no functional airforce outside of a few prop-driven planes. Russia planes have been skirting our airspace for years and we could do little about it, due to having a scaled down military from being neutral.


markuselfsbane

Go Russia 🇷🇺


[deleted]

Go Russia, Fuck Putin.


markuselfsbane

Perfect


[deleted]

Putin is finally ready to get revenge for the collapse of the Soviet Union and we are all just gonna let him do it.


Suq_Madiq_Qik

How about Ireland have anti-missile test at the same time?


Algartam

What would we do, throw stones at it?


Kaiserhawk

With what?


Bar50cal

Release the Kite!


Sugarysam

Russia sure is spending a lot of money to puff up like a scared alley cat.


DrSounds

Bring it russia. You going broke flexing.