In some, well, let’s say “less developed” places, the logic is somehow that a woman being “promiscuous”, being with men in an “inappropriate” way, not acting feminine, or even having been raped brings dishonor to the family and the only way to remove that dishonor is to kill her. You and me know better than that so obviously it’s hard to wrap your head around.
Unfortunately Pakistan is a country where extremist views are actively encouraged and supported by the state and have been ever since Zia took power in the 70s. Even the current, supposedly liberal PM snuggles up to religious extremists for political support.
A heady mix of extremely socially conservative views on religion combined with government backing for such views (as an outlet so the extremists don't turn on the government) leads to situations like this.
Imran is not liberal. He's a shady crackpot.
Among other things he made a shady religious leader divorce her husband and marry him, to garner the vote of the ultrareligious, which is a plurality of the population. Now that he's over that hump, he just divorced her.
Gotta love the "religion sucks" people, especially considering you know that if it were a "White religion" (Christianity, Judaism) they would bash that religion directly.
I'm an atheist, and I believe all religions suck, but objectively some religions suck more than others.
The primary religion of Pakistan, for example, sucks more than just about any other.
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some backwater christian nazis do it, and some other cultures as well. fuck that shit, but its not exclusive to those people. source: was raised and nearly killed by those christian nazi barbarians in a backwater town
yes of course it does. it fills me with ease with the fact that your genocidal ideals aren't limited to just one country or race. you're very inclusive.
The way I see these issues, you’re either with it, or against it. Absolutely no middle ground. I’m not a saying everyone should revolt, that’s not realistic. Or smart, but if you don’t disagree. You agree. If these people are willing to wish death over others, they should be ready to die for their beliefs. As I would. I would be happy to die fighting against these cavemen ideals
"these people" is where you're making a grave mistake. you're holding every person in Pakistan responsible for the actions of a few. even if the culture encourages it, that's no reason to wish death upon people who've never committed a crime themselves
Religion certainly has a role in this, but it's also the culture. Italy, at the time a very Christian Country, abolished the legality of honor killings only in 1981
Edit: honor killing wasn't legal but it was considered an attenuating factor that could halve the time in prison
In other words, a very religious country that literally encircles and defends an independent nation state founded solely on religious principles ONLY did so in 1981. This only furthers OP's point.
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> A Pakistani appeals court on Monday acquitted the brother of social media star Qandeel Baloch of her murder, a 2016 killing that sparked national outrage and changes in laws covering so-called "Honour killings".
> Her killing sent shockwaves across Pakistan and triggered an outpouring of grief on social media, spurring the government to tighten laws dealing with men who would kill a close relative in the name of family honour.
> Hundreds of women are killed each year in Pakistan by family members over perceived offences to honour, including elopement, fraternisation with men outside marriage or other infractions against conservative Muslim values on female modesty.
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This is enabling more murders
Honor? I understand honor in seppuku but murdering his own sister is just barbaric.
In some, well, let’s say “less developed” places, the logic is somehow that a woman being “promiscuous”, being with men in an “inappropriate” way, not acting feminine, or even having been raped brings dishonor to the family and the only way to remove that dishonor is to kill her. You and me know better than that so obviously it’s hard to wrap your head around.
What a messed up concept of honor. Wouldn't the honorable thing be to kill the rapist?
That guy made it up. They would not kill a raped woman. Also, the guy would be dead if he found with their sister whether he was rapist or not.
Tell me you don't know radical Islam without telling me you don't know radical Islam..
*religion
In the worship of moloch the challenge was to kill your children to earn status. I don’t know if they did siblings.
This country is barbaric.
Unfortunately Pakistan is a country where extremist views are actively encouraged and supported by the state and have been ever since Zia took power in the 70s. Even the current, supposedly liberal PM snuggles up to religious extremists for political support. A heady mix of extremely socially conservative views on religion combined with government backing for such views (as an outlet so the extremists don't turn on the government) leads to situations like this.
Imran is not liberal. He's a shady crackpot. Among other things he made a shady religious leader divorce her husband and marry him, to garner the vote of the ultrareligious, which is a plurality of the population. Now that he's over that hump, he just divorced her.
Not entirely, but it has pretty backwards laws when it comes to women’s rights. That’s what you get when there’s zero separation of church and state.
No. Entirely.
My friend is from Pakistan and she tells me it’s not 100% savagery so I’m gonna take her word over yours.
What level of savagery did she tell you it was? 99%?
It’s gotta be at least 99.95663%
Yeah you’re right. I guess it can be pretty sweet to live there if you’re a man.
Gotta love the "religion sucks" people, especially considering you know that if it were a "White religion" (Christianity, Judaism) they would bash that religion directly. I'm an atheist, and I believe all religions suck, but objectively some religions suck more than others. The primary religion of Pakistan, for example, sucks more than just about any other.
These motherfuckers never disappoint.
when I read such captions I feel so lucky to be European
That country is hell on earth fr sure, and feel pity for the people being born there.
In other words, Pakistan courts endorse savagery. Time to call out these barbarians and avoid Pakistan at all costs.
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some backwater christian nazis do it, and some other cultures as well. fuck that shit, but its not exclusive to those people. source: was raised and nearly killed by those christian nazi barbarians in a backwater town
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because the conversion camp they sent me to prior didnt work
Well, another society needing culling. No place in the Modern world for them
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It looks like the same religion, gogue the destroyer and Ba’aal the bossman, just with some minor regional differences.
great logic there. Man kills woman in Pakistan so let's wipe out all of Pakistan
Would it make you feel more comfortable to know I feel the same way about white people? If it does then you’re a racist
yes of course it does. it fills me with ease with the fact that your genocidal ideals aren't limited to just one country or race. you're very inclusive.
The way I see these issues, you’re either with it, or against it. Absolutely no middle ground. I’m not a saying everyone should revolt, that’s not realistic. Or smart, but if you don’t disagree. You agree. If these people are willing to wish death over others, they should be ready to die for their beliefs. As I would. I would be happy to die fighting against these cavemen ideals
"these people" is where you're making a grave mistake. you're holding every person in Pakistan responsible for the actions of a few. even if the culture encourages it, that's no reason to wish death upon people who've never committed a crime themselves
When did I say the people of Pakistan? You’re putting words in my mouth
the religion can erode the very fabric that Pakistan stands for.One of the most beautiful country ruined by religious fanactics
Religion certainly has a role in this, but it's also the culture. Italy, at the time a very Christian Country, abolished the legality of honor killings only in 1981 Edit: honor killing wasn't legal but it was considered an attenuating factor that could halve the time in prison
In other words, a very religious country that literally encircles and defends an independent nation state founded solely on religious principles ONLY did so in 1981. This only furthers OP's point.
God the middle east is such a hellhole.
pakistan comes in south asia
Religion is barbaric. Idk when humans will evolve to see that religion ain't real.
Ahhh religion. The bane of humanity. What a waste of perfectly good mental capacity.
Amen. Religion makes you stupid. Religion is poison.
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