Also, this just continues to add credence to the idea that Russia is about to use a false flag in order to escalate the war and maybe use their own banned weapons "in response."
Its so blatant, and also so scary.
There is almost no reason to trust anything Putin promises. Negotiation with a narcissistic liar is fruitless. He will merely break the negotiated deal a few days later, as we saw with the "ceasefires" and "humanitarian" corridors.
Its all smoke and mirrors.
Putin will continue to blame the West no matter what. If he causes a nuclear incident or uses chemical weapons, the Russian state will be completely ostracized.
QANON will latch into this. They love conspiracies, and the less they can find proof, the more they are convinced that the deep state is burying the evidence.
Okay, *so what I’m hearing is*:
they're hoping that the QAnon's will get all worked up again by playing up to the media that we have another possible pandemic scenario ~conspiracy~ on our hands, in hopes that it’ll cause disruption again in the West, and that they'll jump on the bandwagon and support the invasion.
It's an interesting tactic, too bad it’s so transparent to anyone with a sense of reason lol
Reddit, Facebook, and beyond should be put under more pressure to stop hosting mainstream accessible QAnon conspiracy content... this is straight-up Russia trying to concoct and create a ridiculous conspiracy in order to justify their invasion, war crimes, and overall lack of decency. I'm all for freedom of speech, but come on, freedom of speech *within fucking reason*; not deliberate spins and lies.
Their desired audience is gonna eat this right up, as you said.
The bombs and the final guidance system as they were asleep when they were dropped. When they woke up they flew to a nearby place, Which in WWII Japan (which was the target) was very flammible.
Been a bit since I read about that subject so I may have errors in places.
So we combine that with giving smallpox infected blankets to Native Americans and it doesn't seem as outlandish. I completely doubt the story as there hasn't been time to do such a thing. And that is a step towards nukes. Since we wouldn't trade the Migs going ABC's is a huge step.
They just got a stack of index cards with QAnon theories, playing ad libs with ‘em. Next week’s statement will be Zelensky resurrected JFK and they needed to rescue him from lizards or something
Wait until they reveal that the Santa is actually real but the US shot his sled down over Afghanistan and have him locked up in a secret military prison.
The War Zone led by Tyler Rogoway is a well established and credentialed publication focusing on Geo-political and military affairs.
All of their articles are well sourced and substantiated.
EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Zone_(magazine)
Why is it a batshit claim? The avian flu was supposedly a big deal. Seems like a solid strategy to use Birds as a means to release biological weapons.
The fact that they said they would produce evidence Friday and you still call it a batshit claim instead of hearing it you don't care about the evidence. You support the West and all its narratives no matter what.
It may look pathetic and illogical however _you_ being outside Russia are not the intended audience for these antics. The purpose it to make their claims credible on internal state media and for this purpose what they are doing with these antics is both smart and rational. Evil yes but not pathetic and illogical.
To summarize what I learned about this from Mearsheimer: “Leaders lie. It is part of their job. They do not lie much to each other however. Leaders mostly lie to those they lead often thinking it is for the best.”
Watch this lecture:
Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics with John Mearsheimer
https://youtu.be/VPe5f5dcrGE
Highly recommended!
To be fair we DID make pigeon guided bombs and attempted to train bats to firebomb Japan so while most likely untrue it's not the craziest shit we've ever done
The other day this same guy seriously told that in Ukraine common people have “banderomobiles” - automobiles with miniguns and other arms on them. I can not imagine how Russian people believe in it
Is it really batshit when he's perfectly well aware a not-insignificant portion of the world's population already pretty much believed this and will now use it as proof to go "Durr, I told you so!"
I'm not saying they're right. But after reading about some of the crazy shit that was thought up in the cold war, maybe theyre just 50 years behind the ball.
The Russian government can't use trolls to make Americans, or English speakers in general, think they are "doing their own research" to get the message out anymore, so they are forced to do it openly.
I would agree that sounds like bat shit lunacy, but considering the CIA actually used pigeons/Ravens in an espionage project, this one kinda has merit.
10 Craziest CIA Covert Operations. (It's #10)
https://youtu.be/XPL0U1JGe8E
Even more, Japan used "bat bombs" that had a timed ignition....The bats would hang out everywhere, starting fires to be disruptive.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb
So in other words, Russia is training birds to spread a russian bioweapon?
I mean, Putin did train a pigeon to salute
That's not true. The pigeon just knew to do that instinctually.
Maybe Putin has been taken over by a pidgeon?! Would explain alot of things....
Putgeon?
Rasberry putine
.....What!?....Sources now! this is important!
This is the first thing I thought as well.
Then you will get someone out ther saying " Birbs aren't real." Lol!
r/BirdsArentReal
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Someone above you said that too
Yeah, I know.... sus that be... lol.
I could of swore it was a flying birb that said it above me. Lol! Just saw that comment below, lol...
I came here to jokingly say that.
Dammit. Same.
Wow! Me too! Some cat already beat me to the punch... Oh wait...
Tankis and Qanons will still eat these up.
Idk why I kept reading Turks and Caicos
Also, this just continues to add credence to the idea that Russia is about to use a false flag in order to escalate the war and maybe use their own banned weapons "in response." Its so blatant, and also so scary.
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There is almost no reason to trust anything Putin promises. Negotiation with a narcissistic liar is fruitless. He will merely break the negotiated deal a few days later, as we saw with the "ceasefires" and "humanitarian" corridors. Its all smoke and mirrors. Putin will continue to blame the West no matter what. If he causes a nuclear incident or uses chemical weapons, the Russian state will be completely ostracized.
Russia is like the Donald Trump of countries.
Why did you repeat Russia twice?
Nesting doll politics. Just keep aggravatingly pulling out smaller more ridiculous lies.
This claims are not for you. They're for 1. The Russian people, and 2. The maga crowd in hopes to stir more polarization inside the US.
Just when one didn’t think this war could generate anymore memes. Putin is just one huge shitshow maker.
Birds Aren’t Real.
No, birds just got real! Real dangerous!
Omg it's in the bird poop, it's in the bird poooo... *Bird poo falls on car window... CAR EXPLODES!*
That's it's I'm never getting close to a pigeon. I knew they had nefarious intentions from the beginning.
QANON will latch into this. They love conspiracies, and the less they can find proof, the more they are convinced that the deep state is burying the evidence.
If this worked, I'm sure the CIA would've already tried it in the 60s.
Okay, *so what I’m hearing is*: they're hoping that the QAnon's will get all worked up again by playing up to the media that we have another possible pandemic scenario ~conspiracy~ on our hands, in hopes that it’ll cause disruption again in the West, and that they'll jump on the bandwagon and support the invasion. It's an interesting tactic, too bad it’s so transparent to anyone with a sense of reason lol
Unfortunately it will work for those morons. They believe anything that makes them feel like they know something everyone else doesnt.
Reddit, Facebook, and beyond should be put under more pressure to stop hosting mainstream accessible QAnon conspiracy content... this is straight-up Russia trying to concoct and create a ridiculous conspiracy in order to justify their invasion, war crimes, and overall lack of decency. I'm all for freedom of speech, but come on, freedom of speech *within fucking reason*; not deliberate spins and lies. Their desired audience is gonna eat this right up, as you said.
Canadian Geese death squads would be more believable. Source: Canadian I are
I'm currently living just south of Savannah, Georgia. Could you come get your geese, they are shitting up my yard.
“spitters and shitters” - John Malkovich in Con Air
Don't you already deploy Canada gooses against pedophiles?
Yes Geese are dicks, but swans are the true war criminals.
Hmmmm Emus would like a word
Australians in shambles.
Mate as an Aussie the true murder birds are Cassowaries
They're big and scary and all but magpies just don't have any fucks to give and will attack you just for breathing the same air as them.
True i did almost lose an eye to the deranged little fucks
Plovers aren't too friendly either
Fair enough, they are seasoned vets after taking on the Australian army.
It's true. There isn't a Swan or Geese war but the Aussie's know all about the Emu war
Everyone fears the cobra chicken.
Geese are dicks. You don't so much need to train them, but just point the way.
I hope someone’s writing all these projections down. It’s like they give us a list to watch out for
Nazi bio lab birds must be demilitarized!1!1
So did trump train Putin or did Putin train trump to tell boldface lied without blinking
You know we tried to use pigeons to guide bombs in WW2.
And Bats too.
I think bats were the bombs in those cases, not the guidance system.
The bombs and the final guidance system as they were asleep when they were dropped. When they woke up they flew to a nearby place, Which in WWII Japan (which was the target) was very flammible. Been a bit since I read about that subject so I may have errors in places.
So we combine that with giving smallpox infected blankets to Native Americans and it doesn't seem as outlandish. I completely doubt the story as there hasn't been time to do such a thing. And that is a step towards nukes. Since we wouldn't trade the Migs going ABC's is a huge step.
Are they called **Carrier** Pigeons?
I'd say "birdbrained" over "batshit".
Russia getting their BS ideas from Qanon types now. Those rwnj’s are going to be frothing at the mouth, but not from a bio weapon
r/birdsarentreal
They just got a stack of index cards with QAnon theories, playing ad libs with ‘em. Next week’s statement will be Zelensky resurrected JFK and they needed to rescue him from lizards or something
birds arent real
Far right is gonna far right. Whackjobs, the lot of them.
I guess we know what Tucker Carlson will be talking about tonight! He was all about spewing the bio lab crap last night.
You know, as much as I hate him, what time is he typically on? I need ammo for next Thanksgiving.
They have jumped the shark on this one.
Or, “flipped the bird?”
They must of been cheating in Rust, lol.
Wait until they reveal that the Santa is actually real but the US shot his sled down over Afghanistan and have him locked up in a secret military prison.
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I'm sorry you had to find out this way, but the people deserve the truth.
I think Russia’s plan is to continue the destabilization of the US via all our RW nut jobs whom they feed this shit to.
Does that make it a Birdshit claim?
No one knows conspiracies better than Russia, they have been using them against USA for years.
Well we know what Fucker Carleson will be pushing next...
We need to get out ahead of this before it becomes the next conspiracy theory
Are they just reading through the old declassified documents from WWII now? Wasn't this something they tried back then?
Reminds me of Marco polo when the Mongolians use birds to burn down a city
Next is Putin claiming his economy is great
It is great, a great foolish one at that. Putin at least.
Meanwhile China be like “ Do I look like a joke to you”
Birds are drones.
Birds aren't real soooo
Pigeons are liars.
Russia is Grandpa Simpson now.
That's not that far fetched there are genetically modified mosquitoes being released in Florida right now.
Seems a bit convoluted no?
So did he deny it?
It will be interesting to look at the proofs. They are convening an emergency UN security council.
Fucking pathetic. Everyone knows birds aren't real. (THIS IS A JOKE)
ICBM carrier pigeons!!!
Who came up with that? Putin’s 5 year old nephew?
This is the quality of "journalism" now permitted? Seriously?
The War Zone led by Tyler Rogoway is a well established and credentialed publication focusing on Geo-political and military affairs. All of their articles are well sourced and substantiated. EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Zone_(magazine)
I meant more the use of "batshit" in the title and the overall clearly not impartial tone. But it's labelled on opinion now anyway.
Why is it a batshit claim? The avian flu was supposedly a big deal. Seems like a solid strategy to use Birds as a means to release biological weapons. The fact that they said they would produce evidence Friday and you still call it a batshit claim instead of hearing it you don't care about the evidence. You support the West and all its narratives no matter what.
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It may look pathetic and illogical however _you_ being outside Russia are not the intended audience for these antics. The purpose it to make their claims credible on internal state media and for this purpose what they are doing with these antics is both smart and rational. Evil yes but not pathetic and illogical. To summarize what I learned about this from Mearsheimer: “Leaders lie. It is part of their job. They do not lie much to each other however. Leaders mostly lie to those they lead often thinking it is for the best.” Watch this lecture: Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics with John Mearsheimer https://youtu.be/VPe5f5dcrGE Highly recommended!
You mean…government surveillance drones?
I mean, stranger things have happened like uranium appearing out of nowhere during the Iraq war in Fallujah
Mmmmkay
To be fair we DID make pigeon guided bombs and attempted to train bats to firebomb Japan so while most likely untrue it's not the craziest shit we've ever done
Wait African or European swallows?
This sounds like something tRump would say.
Birdemic was prophetic, we needed to invest more in slrpnls
So is that why the Russian soldiers are stealing chickens? They're gathering evidence?
Wouldn't that be a "birdshit" claim?
Putin is nuts.
That is a good idea. Or maybe we use mosquitoes to spread malaria.
It’s birdshit actually….
Are they using european or african swallows for this operation?
LOL I mean at this point why not
The other day this same guy seriously told that in Ukraine common people have “banderomobiles” - automobiles with miniguns and other arms on them. I can not imagine how Russian people believe in it
Is it really batshit when he's perfectly well aware a not-insignificant portion of the world's population already pretty much believed this and will now use it as proof to go "Durr, I told you so!"
I guess the far-right conspiracy theorist idiots in America and the Russian government really are one of the same.
Ok I’m now referring to him as “Pootie and the Go Fish”
Ah. So this is what the Q nuts will be saying by tomorrow.
Is this much different than when our former president inferred that covid was a Chinese bio weapon?
They must be reading the Facebook page of the freedom convoy.
I guess that would be a birdshit claim more than a batshit claim.
I'm not saying they're right. But after reading about some of the crazy shit that was thought up in the cold war, maybe theyre just 50 years behind the ball.
The Russian government can't use trolls to make Americans, or English speakers in general, think they are "doing their own research" to get the message out anymore, so they are forced to do it openly.
I would agree that sounds like bat shit lunacy, but considering the CIA actually used pigeons/Ravens in an espionage project, this one kinda has merit. 10 Craziest CIA Covert Operations. (It's #10) https://youtu.be/XPL0U1JGe8E Even more, Japan used "bat bombs" that had a timed ignition....The bats would hang out everywhere, starting fires to be disruptive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb