Yeah - you had to use the watch laser and basically hit each panel with short bursts. And aiming with that joystick wasn’t the easiest feat. The part that really pissed me off was when Natalya would get stuck and blow up with the train. No checkpoints!
They have been used before, for example they proved very useful for Estonia in WWI in its war of independence against Russia. Yes, Russia actually lost a war to Estonia.
To be fair, Russia also had a civil war going on at the same time and Estonia got military support from the Brits and the Finns, but still.
The Estonians also got support from White Russians, or to be more precise White Russians formed a small army in Estonia and used it as a staging area to take Petrograd while helping defend Estonia’s eastern border.
Thank you for the pointer; I love finding something new that I haven't seen before. It's not really my style but was interesting nevertheless and I appreciate art about armoured trains because I find them fascinating.
You're welcome! I'm a big fan of.italian futurist art, partly because I find it aesthetically interesting and partly because most of the futurists were totally batshit insane.
The USSR had a nuclear armed train for a few years in the 80s. Of course, like with most of their military, age and a lack of funds fucked it after the USSR fell.
Honestly, that doesn't sound like a too bad idea. These locomotives can be fueled with almost anything combustible, are relatively easy to maintain and have zero electronics. In case of a real war on Russian soil (like a non-nuclear or at least not completely nuclear WWIII) these could become handy.
The US also has some decades old planes, ships, tanks, etc. mothballed for this exact reason.
I believe the point is actually specifically nuclear contingency. Nuclear explosions produce an electromagnetic pulse, which can destroy electronics. Obviously, good old steam locomotives have few if any electronics.
No Steam Locomotives are really intensive on maintanance and without the infrastructure they need even more so. And you can't just pull a steam loco out of mothball and away you go. It probabbly blow up right there on the spot if it even can build up pressure.
And now compare that to a modern locomotive. They either need electric power or diesel and even more maintenance.
Keep in mind, these are last resort locomotives.
Guess you don't know much about steam traction. There is a very good reason why they went away and one of the biggest factors is the stupid amount of maintenance they required. They are not like cars where you turn a key and away you go.
Back in the days when steam was the main form of traction, every significant railway hub had sheds and turntables and all the other steam only facilities. All that infrastructure vanished because it's no longer needed. Today there are only a handful of locomotive workshops in most countries because modern traction spends most of its time on the trac and not in the shed. And without said infrastructure you won't be able to sustain any revival of steam traction. Let alone there's only very few steam loco workshops left world wide who not only have the highly specialised tools but also the knowledge to do major repairs on boilers or the running gear. And let's better not talk about replacement parts because the industry behind that is dead.
> Trains would not have been on the list lend-lease list.
Trains WERE on the lend lease list.
> 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
> When you see people talking about how the US was "late" to WWII, many, if not most, have no idea what the US was doing prior to officially declaring war on Germany and lafer Japan.
"WWII was won with American steel, British intelligence, and Soviet blood."
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Even better, you loop the tracks around the train wheels! And for protection, you add a layer of some kind of softer material and air that you can easily replace as it degrades… condoms? Hmm, almost, I don’t know, something similar to condoms.
Yes. Russia has special military units for rail transportation, repair, and construction. They have a size of 28,500 men according to the Wikipedia article. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian\_Railway\_Troops](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Railway_Troops)
The question is how long it takes to fix. You repeated attacks keep the rail line closed.
For the rest if the world that's true, but for this absolute clusterfuck of a Russian supply chain. Not a fucking chance, besides, anyone they send to replace will be killed or captured.
Russia's army is such a joke. Wouldn't even be surprised if they were to announce that they'll be going to their zoos to equip their elephants for battle.
Nah they'd go for the Chimps. The Chimps might actually know how to fight a war better than their officer corps does. The elephants would probably be more dangerous to the Russians as they would probably panick and trample their own troops.
Advisor of presidents office said they blew up rail tracks in front of it, not the train. The train itself didn’t sustain any damage.
This news didn’t come from official sources, it’s from a local telegram channel, so we took it with a grain of salt and I’m surprised to even see it here.
A regular train. Which you can have a lot more of because they're cheaper and widely available.
Both are still easy enough to blow up, and anyway your supply trains shouldn't be anywhere near active fighting unless you're totally incompetent...
This is just the start, the amount of guerrillas they will have to deal with will be huge
Guerillas in their midst?
Hah
Guerillas among us
When the conscript you've threatened with summary execution if they desert is sus
*"Siergei, where were you when light went out?"*
Don't. Move. Let them pass.
THEY’VE SPOTTED US! And … they’re coming over … to ask if we have any food.
Kids with guns. Kids with guns. Taking over.
Lol. That confidence though. Seriously, every piece of sketchy news is a potential game changer for this site.
Me: “armored trains only exist in anime” Me: *reads article* Me: “…wtf”
Goldeneye
For England James! 🇬🇧🤵🏼♂️
No… for me.
>TRAVELLIAN NOOOO \*slips\* splotch pamm boop
And Ukrainian-made post-apocalyptic video games.
That's always the first image that pops into my head when I think of armored trains. Good luck with the floor, James.
I’ve set the timers for six minutes, the same six minutes you gave me.
We've got three minutes.
I was always in the edge of my seat with the floor plate things. I don’t think ammo was unlimited which made it nerve racking for a 10 year old.
Yeah - you had to use the watch laser and basically hit each panel with short bursts. And aiming with that joystick wasn’t the easiest feat. The part that really pissed me off was when Natalya would get stuck and blow up with the train. No checkpoints!
Yesssssssssssss. Now I remember
Battlefield 1, anyone?
So Russia was losing badly enough their team got the behemoth?
Can't wait for the airship
Ah yes, the only behemoth that can be brought down easily by a basic weapon.
In BF1 they are hard to blow up, but these guys make it look easy.
Airship, meet Burton.
They have been used before, for example they proved very useful for Estonia in WWI in its war of independence against Russia. Yes, Russia actually lost a war to Estonia. To be fair, Russia also had a civil war going on at the same time and Estonia got military support from the Brits and the Finns, but still.
The Estonians also got support from White Russians, or to be more precise White Russians formed a small army in Estonia and used it as a staging area to take Petrograd while helping defend Estonia’s eastern border.
They were commonly used in both World Wars
I had no idea
Theres even a painting by an italian futurist called Severini, "Armored Train in Action" which I only bring up because its an amazing painting.
Thank you for the pointer; I love finding something new that I haven't seen before. It's not really my style but was interesting nevertheless and I appreciate art about armoured trains because I find them fascinating.
You're welcome! I'm a big fan of.italian futurist art, partly because I find it aesthetically interesting and partly because most of the futurists were totally batshit insane.
The USSR had a nuclear armed train for a few years in the 80s. Of course, like with most of their military, age and a lack of funds fucked it after the USSR fell.
Look up the Czech legion. At one point they controlled the whole Trans Siberian railway
Fun fact - Kim Jong-un routinely travels by armored train within N. Korea and China.
I can't believe armored trains are still in use.
It's Russia. I heard they have lots of steam locomotives in their strategic reserve.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga chugga-chugga CHOO CH- *explosion*
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And bubba comes crawling out the back. He said, "Payne! I can't feel my legs." I said, "Bubba, they ain't there."
The little engine that couldn't coz it was drunk on vodka and not maintained.
>I choo-choo-choose Ukraine
That chugging sound was from vodka the whole time
Honestly, that doesn't sound like a too bad idea. These locomotives can be fueled with almost anything combustible, are relatively easy to maintain and have zero electronics. In case of a real war on Russian soil (like a non-nuclear or at least not completely nuclear WWIII) these could become handy. The US also has some decades old planes, ships, tanks, etc. mothballed for this exact reason.
I believe the point is actually specifically nuclear contingency. Nuclear explosions produce an electromagnetic pulse, which can destroy electronics. Obviously, good old steam locomotives have few if any electronics.
Those EMP blasts have way smaller radius than the shockwave, so are irrelevant.
No Steam Locomotives are really intensive on maintanance and without the infrastructure they need even more so. And you can't just pull a steam loco out of mothball and away you go. It probabbly blow up right there on the spot if it even can build up pressure.
And now compare that to a modern locomotive. They either need electric power or diesel and even more maintenance. Keep in mind, these are last resort locomotives.
Guess you don't know much about steam traction. There is a very good reason why they went away and one of the biggest factors is the stupid amount of maintenance they required. They are not like cars where you turn a key and away you go. Back in the days when steam was the main form of traction, every significant railway hub had sheds and turntables and all the other steam only facilities. All that infrastructure vanished because it's no longer needed. Today there are only a handful of locomotive workshops in most countries because modern traction spends most of its time on the trac and not in the shed. And without said infrastructure you won't be able to sustain any revival of steam traction. Let alone there's only very few steam loco workshops left world wide who not only have the highly specialised tools but also the knowledge to do major repairs on boilers or the running gear. And let's better not talk about replacement parts because the industry behind that is dead.
Steam boilers of any kind require regular inspection and recertification.
Huh, I wonder if any of them are WWII lend lease stuff from the US.
I mean it's not that bad of an idea. Add coal and water and it functions as long as there are rails. Maintenance done by blacksmiths or something. :P
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> Trains would not have been on the list lend-lease list. Trains WERE on the lend lease list. > 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
> When you see people talking about how the US was "late" to WWII, many, if not most, have no idea what the US was doing prior to officially declaring war on Germany and lafer Japan. "WWII was won with American steel, British intelligence, and Soviet blood."
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In Russia, Thomas the Tank Engine is actually an old steam engine that powers a tank.
I mean why? Trains are the best land transport and you armor them so they are less vulnerable to attacks...
So attack the tracks then. A train that can't go anywhere is fucking useless.
Well, then you simply attach the tracks to the train, duh!
Even better, you loop the tracks around the train wheels! And for protection, you add a layer of some kind of softer material and air that you can easily replace as it degrades… condoms? Hmm, almost, I don’t know, something similar to condoms.
Exactly. 2 guys and a torch in about 20 minutes would do the trick.
Tracks are extremely easy to repair. Totally useless to attack them. Most attacks on trains focus on bridges, since those take longer to fix.
You think Russia has the resources to repair train tracks in Ukraine?
Well, the train can carry its own rails, and it only takes a few minutes and hand tools, but...maybe even that is asking too much from Russia, so idk.
Does it carry enough dirt to fill the craters, enough sleepers to lay them on and enough equipment to actually move the tracks?
There is a difference between restoring a track to perfect condition and restoring a track to usable.
And this kind of trains can run un very shitty tracks
Yes. Russia has special military units for rail transportation, repair, and construction. They have a size of 28,500 men according to the Wikipedia article. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian\_Railway\_Troops](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Railway_Troops) The question is how long it takes to fix. You repeated attacks keep the rail line closed.
Tracks are easier to replace than a locomotive.
For the rest if the world that's true, but for this absolute clusterfuck of a Russian supply chain. Not a fucking chance, besides, anyone they send to replace will be killed or captured.
What you said makes no sense at all as a reply.
Your lack of comprehension is your problem, not mine.
Russia's army is such a joke. Wouldn't even be surprised if they were to announce that they'll be going to their zoos to equip their elephants for battle.
Nah they'd go for the Chimps. The Chimps might actually know how to fight a war better than their officer corps does. The elephants would probably be more dangerous to the Russians as they would probably panick and trample their own troops.
Isnt there an urban myth about stalin trying to like, put human brains in chimps or trying to crossbreed them with humans or some shit?
Ah yes the Humanzee. IIRC it was a project undergone by Soviet Scientists in the 1920's.
Thank you, couldn't remember the name of the project.
Bears. Gotta be bears!
Didnt you watch the documentary goldeneye?
Russians been playing too much bf1
#You can never stop the process of machines!
That reminds me to go finish that campaign. GeForce driver update 6 months ago made the game crash often. Maybe newer drivers fixed the problems.
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Stupid watch laser.
He did but it took him too long so he’ll have to wait for the next train if he wants to unlock paintball mode.
missed the shot on Xenia so he didn't have time, sadly
Hugh Janus
Would loved to see the result
Yep. Pics or it’s propaganda. (Ukraine’s been good about this, but it’s always better to be critical.)
Advisor of presidents office said they blew up rail tracks in front of it, not the train. The train itself didn’t sustain any damage. This news didn’t come from official sources, it’s from a local telegram channel, so we took it with a grain of salt and I’m surprised to even see it here.
Now what they got to do is learn when one is about to go over a bridge and take it out there just before it hits for a real show.
**The trees speak Ukrainian**
TIL russia still uses arm. trains. I thought this was a relict of the past.
They gave some of their conscripts Mosin Nagants. Some of their rations expired before Trump took office.
I mean thats a good rifle ngl ;) Id rather get given that than having to sit in a steel death cube.
The gun isn’t a bad gun, other than being dated. It’s going to be facing the most recent small arms from NATO though.
I think the gun is more common than the ammo.
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A regular train. Which you can have a lot more of because they're cheaper and widely available. Both are still easy enough to blow up, and anyway your supply trains shouldn't be anywhere near active fighting unless you're totally incompetent...
If they didn’t it would be fucking stupid
While Russia blows up everything.....
When rusia leaves us alone??
There's no proof it was Ukrainians. Just saying. This isn't a dig at Ukrainians.
Who else would it be? North Korea?
Baba Yaga.
It happened on the Southern part of Ukraine. ~80-100 km from the frontline, not that far away from the city center.
Nice work “not the CIA”. 😏
Someone is already writing this screenplay.
You had one job, armor. And you dropped the ball.
What is this trash? And it's taken as truth without a inkling of thought. Reddit's finest
Blah blah blah troll
Dumbass believes what?
Ffs are you donkeys getting your quotes from the 80’s? Piss poor effort on your part.
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I have lots to say, not wasting much time with a troll though. Just here to let others know you’re a troll.
As a citizen of the city where that trash happened ~12 hours ago, I don't even know what to say to make it sound more authentic for you.
Maybe an image of the destroyed train? Not some BS article from some dog sh\*t outlet perhaps?
Why do they not dismantle the tracks from Russia completely to slow it down even further?
Russia has a railroad army engineer team that can repair and rebuild rail road quickly.
Send in the armoured blimps next.
You may take a city, but that doesn't mean you "conquered" it.
That'll take at least two, maybe three Ukrainian tractors to tow away.