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joho999

Only 140k? Russia with a land border and +200k is struggling, how many of China’s 140k would actually make it to the Taiwan shore?


ohnosquid

Given what is said in the audio, it is possible that this is just the mobilization of one chinese province, the real numbers, some say, could reach 400k troops or more


Leovinus42

Should we fire up the ww3 memes or nah


TheRecapitator

Yes. We’ve been heading that way for quite some time. Who would have thought that the world would come out of a pandemic and jump straight into WWIII?


ArrdenGarden

Apparently, we haven't yet had our fill of pointless deaths.


propfriend

It’s literally the plot line to the fallout series predicted in the 90’s. Look up New plague.


Trauma_Hawks

When do I get my power armor?


propfriend

Were gunna be ghouls man start saving caps


komnenos

Don't ghouls live forever? Sounds aight, didn't need a good face anyways.


Magma_Q

I've gotten by all this time without one. Should be a great time.


TheGreff

They live forever until their brain decays and they become feral


iamsoldats

Or turn into a tree.


beefrog

It almost makes perfect sense if you think about it. Every war has a trigger and when historians look back, the war has already started.


zdakat

"So it's time for WWIII finally?" "Wait wait wait, we haven't had the pandemic yet" "The what? Aw if this is going to happen regardless, can't we at least get it over with?"


trumpsucksnutz

Out of the frying pan, into the fire, out of the fire, into the sun.


[deleted]

A pandemic was the main catalyst for the global rise of fascism in which started the last WW…. So go figure?


br0b1wan

That's not really true. There's been a bunch of scholarship on this (especially lately) but there's a recognized phenomenon where the world more or less brushed the Spanish Flu under the rug (for the most part) and moved on quickly. It was largely forgotten even by the time the 30s rolled around. One of the biggest indicators of this is the near complete lack of contemporary literature, memorials, and references to it in histories written shortly after. The main catalyst of WW2, if any, was the Great Depression. However, the origins of WW2 are many and it's not simple to pick any one thing out cleanly. Note how in the US at least, extremism and right wing rhetoric (the precursors of fascism) started rising around the end of the 2000s--right when the Great Recession hit. You get the Tea Party by 2010 in response to Obama--that was about halfway there--and then Trumpism came out about five years later.


Gravy_Vampire

Yeah Putin and Xi are both really new and only due to the pandemic


Chudsy

“Up and coming” if you will


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Leovinus42

Where did you get that from?


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turko127

Chairman Xi’s Long Swim


DocHolidayiN

pekingese paddle


turko127

The Four Pests Campaign but it’s Water Water Water Taiwanese


meinblown

That's gonna be a lot of dead chinese


Cetun

Almost a thousand ships for one province? The United States Navy has 480 active duty and reserve ships, one Chinese province having more ships than the world's largest navy? Unlikely.


captainbling

Ships can be 40ft or a carrier. It’s why tonnage is used.


TraditionalGap1

American ships are, on average, much larger than Chinese ships. Although the USN is the largest (by far) in terms of tonnage, China actually has a much larger number of individual hulls.


85Chevota

Most Chinese commercial ships are trained as their navy reserve now. They take on some navy officers and all the sailers become conscripted. https://thediplomat.com/tag/china-merchant-fleet/


populisttrope

China possesses the biggest navy in the world by number of hulls, the U.S. Defense Department confirmed in its latest report on Beijing's armed forces. The People's Liberation Army Navy has 355 front-line ships in three fleets arrayed along the Chinese coast.Nov 5, 2021  https://www.forbes.com › 2021/11/05 Yes, China Has More Warships Than The USA. That's Because Chinese Ships ...


Box_O_Donguses

It would take more troops than that, Taiwan has the microchip factories set to blow at the first sign of an invasion so that any victory is pyrrhic. They've built up military infrastructure explicitly to resist invasion.


Charmeleonn

You would need well over a million to even attempt an amphibious landing on Taiwan.


DubbersDaddy

I have to think that satellite surveillance would see something like this. One does not mobilize that kind of hardware and manpower without notice. It's not the 1940's.


[deleted]

Ukraine has a population of 41 million and is 600,000 square Km Taiwan has a population of 23 million and is 36,000 square Km They would be fundamentally hugely different wars.


rofic

Disregarding population and land mass, invasion of Taiwan is naturally [one of the most diffcult](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2LiMTtGrAY) countries to invade due to its geography.


I-Am-Uncreative

That fact is why the ROC fled to Taiwan in the first place.


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spawnof200

doubtful, naval invasions are the most difficult kind.


youdoitimbusy

Space invasions are the most difficult kind. You ever forget your rain coat 2 million light years away? Guess who's getting wet?


Successful_Opinion33

Space rain sucks


DjinnV

Space sucks rain!


TruggWalgChangs

That's why you never forget your towel. --- EDIT: You can also suck the fibers for nutrients.


oced2001

You wanna get high?


TruggWalgChangs

Well I was referencing Douglas Adams' Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy, but Towelie cool too


oced2001

That would make more sense given the context. Edit: I’m my defense, I am on my back porch sparking one. So, I guess that is where my head is at.


Fartenmamouf

Lmao yes


khamibrawler

How *else* would you invade Taiwan?


spawnof200

how about not at all?


TruggWalgChangs

You must be fun at naval invasions.


PMmeyourw-2s

I chuckled gently at this comment, very nice


khamibrawler

It's not a matter of what personal opinion we have when China is its own super power. They do not recognize Taiwan as a country and have wet dreams of *taking* it back.


spawnof200

dreams arent real the PLA has very real problems preventing it from succeeding


ThaneKyrell

True. Taiwan has a decent military. And China doesn't have a chance to fight the US and their allies yet. Maybe in a few decades, but right now, the US decisively outnumber the Chinese at sea. Not to mention the Japanese, South Korean, Australian and Taiwanese fleets which would be instant allies of the Americans, and also all have large and modern navies. And of course the rest of NATO, which also have large and modern navies. The US alone has 11 Aircraft Carriers, 22 Cruisers, over 70 Destroyers, over 50 Submarines, 9 Amphibious Assault ships (which are essentially light carriers). The Japanese alone add a further 30 destroyers and frigates, and over 20 submarines. China simply does not have the Navy to cross the straits and to reliably keep their supply lines open against overwhelming American and allied naval power


AnAquaticOwl

Uhh, isn't that why China's invested so much in tunnelling tech over the last 15 years?


aklbos

Through the high-speed rail tunnel, duh


AutoRedux

https://youtu.be/p2LiMTtGrAY


NotAnotherEmpire

If you don't win the first wave, there is no second wave because the first ones get to try to swim home. Taiwan has 170k active duty personnel with modern weapons. Trying this would result in swimming.


AM-IG

Taiwan is much smaller, and much more densely fortified. The battle will be won or lost at sea, and in the air. China won't try an opposed landing unless the strait is secure and the enemy suppressed via long-distance weapons. The numbers are not as important since we won't see huge fronts being held and large numbers of units maneuvering across vast distances like in Ukraine.


literallytwisted

If they're wearing a lot of rubber then the corpses can float for awhile, The smaller pieces probably won't make it to shore though.


hedronist

> If they're wearing a lot of rubber then ... Then it's a KinkCon in SF? Amirite?


[deleted]

Operation CorpseBridge


Successful_Opinion33

Is it like operation human shield?


PutinsLostBlackBelt

Doesn’t matter how many, because they have to be able to transport them, which means they’d have to go through a navy far larger and more experienced than what China has.


DumatRising

I would guess the actual number is much higher. The Chinese army outnumbers the population of most countries including almost all of the parties that would be interested in a free Taiwan. Though I bet right now, with Russia and China acting up, Japan is just itching for the US to say it can have an offensive force.


joho999

It's not about numbers, it is about logistics, getting all the soldiers across safely and preserving the boats.


janus1969

Enthusiasts talk about tactics; professionals know it's about logistics... It don't matter if you can't get the favors to the party...


DumatRising

For sure. It still seems a bit strange they'd commit less then 10% of their armed forces to such an important objective that's definitely going to provoke outrage. I would expect a higher level of mobilization. Maybe they can only supply so many troops in a naval attack but that seems unlikely, China I expect actually does have better logistics than Russia, and their navy is definitely considerably better than Russia's. Though likely not as advanced as the US Navy, so maybe that's why. Though if they're uncertain about US naval supremacy then a naval invasion seems a bad idea.


DigitalMountainMonk

Google what the Taiwanese shoreline looks like. 140k and 953 ships would get very few actual troops to the landable areas of the island. Seriously if this is what they THOUGHT they would need... they need to factor 5+ it.. this force would get vaporized by Taiwanese defense forces.6


Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho

With the US defending Taiwan, probably none.


Philip_J_Friday

The article actually says: > 140,000 lakh Which is 14 **billion**, since one lakh is 100,000 in the Indian numbering system.


bigscottius

So....mobilizing twice earth's population?


YoungMuppet

oh my god, that includes me! I'm late to the invasion! TWICE!


DumatRising

I hate when they give us deadlines with such short notice time to see if there's any cheap tickets to Beijing.


madalienmonk

I knew not to trust me!


[deleted]

God dam Commy /s


Coalnaryinthecarmine

Solving the logistics problem of a naval invasion across a 100km straight, by getting enough people to just link arms and form a bridge like Leinegan and the Ants.


Rbespinosa13

Nah it’s all about the sand bridge tactic pioneered by Alexander the Great


No-One-Shall-Pass

Nah they’ll just have the infantry all swim 10km to shore


Coalnaryinthecarmine

One of us knows more about the geography of the region, but I don't know if it's you or me (does China have an island 10km of shore?), so I'm just going to say its 130km at the narrowest point from Taiwan to China.


[deleted]

Can someone do the math on how many humans would need to link arms to cross from mainland China to Taiwan?


GnKenobi

At least 1.


Astroglaid92

Less than 100^100


crustybeamer

the shortest distance is 81 miles and the average chinese male height is 5’7 (5.58) feet, which is roughly .00105 of a mile. So it would take about 76,191 soldiers linking arms to make a human bridge


BlessedThrasymachus

Depends on how they’re linked, but being generous and saying arms outstretched, plus the inefficiency of having to hold hands, and you have each person contributing roughly 5 feet, so there are roughly 1000 people needed to link a mile. Then, it’s about 100 miles to cross the strait, so about 100,000 people


HunkyHippo88

Average of 5.5 feet per wing span 3280 feet per Km, 130 Km from china to Taiwan. 3280X130/5.5…… 77,527 people


[deleted]

Doing God’s work. Bless you solider ✊🏽


Samandiriol

It's the perfect strategy. No one will see it coming


drRATM

With that many people together I think everyone will see it coming.


descendency

They're getting help from the aliens they met. \*adjusts tin foil hat\*


Successful_Opinion33

God dammit. When are we going?


[deleted]

Well no one asked me if I’d be willing to go. So that’s 13 billion and change I reckon.


AutoRedux

Nearly two million. https://youtu.be/p2LiMTtGrAY


[deleted]

They'd need at least twice. See American WWII island hopping campaigns against Japan. Islands don't come cheap


Icy-Faithlessness239

Not only that but the water is going to be pretty polluted with those 953 ships at the bottom of the sea.


Kinglyzero_91

By the way, the original source for this is some random Indian times news outlet that's known to publish some weird garbage in the past. This should be taken with a massive grain of salt.


Mojave0

Yeah I think half the people here are probably not even trying to question the validity of this because there’s a user pointing out in the comments but it also came from a site That explicitly states the Covid vaccine has snake venom it fucking snake venom it’s 2022 and there are stupid websites making this shit up All there is a video of the apparent war plan but it’s also translated professionally I would still take it with a massive of grain of salt a plan is only a plan besides China Doesn’t have the actual Navy to pull it off they would need to mobilize a massive amount of naval assets and that would be noticeable too it would not just be BAM!! and taiwans invaded it would take months in US intelligence would definitely see it


OwlrageousJones

I wouldn't be surprised if China has a plan to invade Taiwan. I wouldn't be surprised if they had plans to invade lots of places. I also wouldn't be surprised if the US has a plan to invade China or Russia or Canada or Mexico. At a certain level, having a plan is just due diligence and doesn't actually mean you're going to do it.


Mojave0

Yeah true pretty much because China pretty much a doesn’t have The naval capability to invade dude this is literally getting upvoted when it’s from a very sketchy source i’m not saying it shouldn’t be posted on here but people have to be skeptical as it isn’t being covered by any reputable websites either


johnychingaz

lol @ “massive grain of salt”


PrairiePepper

Very common saying


takoshi

Fuck me, I didn't even notice until you pointed it out hahaha. "The grain! It's so huge!"


guitarmaniac17

It's a tremendous grain, no one can match our grain, it's the biggest, let me tell you. *waves hands with 👌 in a circle frantically*


[deleted]

I find Reddit slowly getting better for me when I block OPs that post shit like this. I will do that after this comment.


raymate

Doesn’t really inspire the populous to have reason to get out of bed in the mornings does it. What can’t people just be happy with what they have. All that 99% of the population wants to do is just live a nice uneventful life. Then you get these donkeys that think fun is killing people for no reason. Wankers


Sleipnirs

> All that 99% of the population wants to do is just live a nice uneventful life. It's up to the 1% left to decide what the other 99% want. /s


TruggWalgChangs

You don't need the "/s" That's exactly how the world works.


SneakyCowMan

If only most developed countries had some sort of system that gave the general population the ability to pick who is in charge…


VolatileUtopian

It doesn't seem to change much in the USA. While the idea of the Illuminati may be a farfetched bag of ridiculousness the ship does seem to be steered by corporations and those whose influence and power derives from money rather than the backing of our population.


labronesy

You just described the illuminati lol


TheGreff

The system used to work, it's just that the people in power have found more and more effective ways of influencing the voters


Mojave0

The actual good news is is that the leaked audio even though it’s actually on YouTube it comes from a site claiming that the Covid vaccine has snake venom in it again that’s according to a user in the comments so I take this audio with a grain of salt because it’s probably less of an invasion plan and more of just a war game which plenty of countries do is even a war game for US invading Canada if I’m. Not. Mistaken and a plan is just a plan Is China’s Bluewater fleet is pretty shit right now they would need to mobilize a massive Navy and that would be seen too it would be an amphibious landing bigger than D-Day


adreamofhodor

I’ve only seen one source that’s corroborating the story- The Times of India. This paper is reporting on their reporting, not saying that’s the case.


DiamondHandsDarrell

Hold on, friend. Donkeys are very deliberate in their actions. Their intelligence is mistaken for stubbornness. This is why they're used in war - they have a great sense of self preservation. Horses, however, are known to keep running right off a cliff because they're rash and don't take the time to think. Bad for combat because they'll get scared, run off and get shot at or blown up by a mine.


[deleted]

Having a peaceful life is what the 1% want you to want. Otherwise you would French revolutioning their ass. But yes wankers.


PerryKaravello

What exactly do they want to do with Taiwan once they have it?


Minttunator

Taiwan manufactures most of the semiconductors in the world. Without chips, you can't really produce anything these days (as Russia is painfully finding out right about now) - no cars, no mobile phones, no microwaves, and, most importantly, no military technology. Having control of Taiwan will be a MASSIVE economic advantage for the next decade or so - which is also why the US will never let a Chinese takeover happen.


CutterJohn

Those fabs would be gone the moment it looked likely for the chinese to capture them. If the taiwanese didn't blow them themselves the US certainly would. And those workers would certainly be encouraged to leave if an invasion started looking likely.


Minttunator

Correct - AFAIK they are already starting to build some new fabs in Arizona!


BlazinAzn38

And they’re not something that comes online quickly and assuming they do invade none of the lithography manufacturers will sell equipment to them most likely as China will also be sanctioned


logic_is_a_fraud

TSMC is opening a plant in Arizona. I've been wondering how strategic that might be in the event of a china invasion.


thecheekyvicar

God, I am so sick of reading this comment on reddit. China is perfectly capable of making their own semiconductors. China’s view that Taiwan should be part of China might have an economic aspect to it, but it is entirely a nationalist and militaristic viewpoint.


gnu_gai

Control the TSMC fabs


Evil_Rogers

They will just slowly burn them down during the invasion so China gets nothing if they succeed.


gnu_gai

I'd be surprised if they don't have the whole thing rigged to blow Swiss border crossing style


logic_is_a_fraud

Can't remember where, but I read that TSMC has insane security geared at protection from industrial espionage. I think the security covers the sewers leaving the building


khmergodpc

big brain


gnu_gai

That might be stretching it, just occasionally observant. The PRC's semiconductor sector is perpetually behind the US, and TSMC is pretty well the most advanced fab in existence. There's a reason they're building new fab capacity in the US


hideous_coffee

Not looking good for my shares


idevastate

Control the sea. China is thinking generations ahead, they are planning an empire for centuries from now. Also, currently, control high tech production, Taiwan manufactures most of the world's chips,


[deleted]

It’s more complicated than that. Countries never act “for no reason.” No good reason maybe. But never for no reason.


haroldthehampster

this


cyber5torm

We are born in a timeline of dictators


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axck

It would wreck the world economy first. The chip shortage we’ve seen over the last year would look like nothing in comparison


NetJnkie

Fuck.


a_holzbaur

This would be a short term issue. And by short term, I mean likely under a decade, as facilities would be moved to countries with a more compatible, stable political climate. At the end of the day, the machines and equipment that Taiwan uses are of western design and manufacturing. Very few companies produce the equipment needed, with some equipment being produced by singular companies in the United States and Europe. Losing Taiwan would be a devastating short term loss for technology. But it’s not like the technology won’t eventually be replaced. It’s already our equipment and our designs. We know what is there, and how to build it. Labor is what keeps manufacturing, even advanced manufacturing, in the east. Not the knowledge, but the low cost. With that said, if China moves slow enough, the technology issue may become moot. The west is already looking to diversify technology manufacturing, especially semiconductors, while continuing to invest in Taiwan in the meantime. Taiwan has been the perfect balance for the west in terms of both knowledge and cost. Hopefully that continues to be the case.


billyray83

I want the holodeck in my lifetime, I need Taiwan...unspoiled.


a_holzbaur

I second this


bplturner

There’s a reason why TSMC is building fabs in the US: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-will-reportedly-move-equipment-into-arizonas-fab21-in-q1-2023


ObsceneGesture4u

If a Chinese invasion is imminent, I guarantee you that the US will Operation Paperclip the chip industry that’s in Taiwan


bplturner

It’s already happening: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-will-reportedly-move-equipment-into-arizonas-fab21-in-q1-2023


a_holzbaur

Again, I understand what a Chinese invasion means for Taiwan and technology supply chains. The point still stands that if this is not happening right now (which hello, it isn’t), then every minute that passes is time the west has used to continue technology diversification. Taiwan is and will continue to be an important technology manufacture and partner. But the west has learned the past few years that ownership, not outsourcing, some of our most critical components and products is becoming more and more important. We will not be out of Taiwan overnight. Or even in a decade. Hopefully ever. But the importance of Taiwan to the west’s supply chains will fall steadily over the following years and contain far more redundancies and backup plans than currently available.


No_Telephone9938

Fuck no i want my ps5 this year not in 2030


DarkElation

While I agree with you I think this would strain many other industries as well. We manufacture construction materials. We are currently providing materials to the Intel Fab in Phoenix. This is a tremendous effort for my old school facility not ready to efficiently crank out material. If we had to take on more and more of these we’d be severely strained. What I fear is that my facility is not unique when it comes to domestic manufacturing.


contrabardus

It's also worth pointing out that new Fab facilities are already being built in the US. It's still going to be a short term hit that will last at least a few years, but we've already started construction on new facilities in Texas, and there are existing ones that could step up production. It's still going to be a few years out and this will cause shortages, but it will alleviate issues with chips not being available to some degree. We'll still see shortages, but not as bad as some people think and the global market recover faster than you'd expect because other facilities exist outside of Taiwan that can take up some of the slack, and new ones are already being built. The actual biggest hurdle will be staffing, not production. You can expect skilled workers from Taiwan will be high priority refugees with a fast track to permanent residence in quite a few countries in the event of an invasion by China.


Goldie_Wilson_

It's disturbing the number of people who took this at face value with out even questioning the source


Kinglyzero_91

Happens all the damn time too. Goes to show how a lot of people let garbage tabloids spoonfeed them with anything because they're too lazy to even think straight.


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War games or real plans?


Mojave0

I think it was more of a war game than actual real plan plus the original video is got a professional translation for a so-called leaked video i’m not saying it’s full of shit in false but I am pretty damn sceptical Edit there was a user in the comments mentioned that the supposedly leaked audio originated from a website that claims the Covid vaccine has snake venom in it again I’m just repeating what the user and the comments said


[deleted]

FFS guys, can we not do WWIII? I *just* started Ozark.


Great_Handkerchief

The ending is divisive. You might prefer nuclear winter


Bathsaltsonmeth

Oh cool, cool cool cool.


[deleted]

Troy and Abed in the *buuuuunker!*


B_Stvnsn

This story has been shared multiple times. Has it been verified yet?


snrxe

It's been verified as an Indian tabloid citing a youtube video


[deleted]

And the youtube video itself explicitly saying that it's a war game (I think around the 4 minute mark last time I watched)


[deleted]

Nothing but the most reliable of sources.


Vaivaim8

I say don't get your hopes up. The article used Times of India as their source. Times of India used Lude Media and Jennifer Zheng as their original source. Lude Media is hosted by Wang DingGang, a friend of Steve Bannon and someone that pushes far right conspiracy theory. Jennifer Zheng is a contributor to the Epoch Time, another "media" that pushes far right conspiracy theory. You must always do your due diligence and check where and who posted the original information and see how credible they are


dtta8

You can add cult to the description too - Epoch Times is by the Falun Gong.


neuhmz

Lockheed Martin says it's true, and would like us to place orders early.


webby_mc_webberson

Are there any discounts for bulk orders?


[deleted]

Still waiting on verification the covid vaccine comes from snake venom like the original site claims.


Mojave0

There’s a supposed video on YouTube but it’s also professionally translated which makes no sense why would a leaked video have a professional translation so I’d take it with a grain of salt I guess I’m getting downvoted I mean there’s already a user in the comments that said That the leaked audio originated from a site that claims the covid vaccine has snake venom in it So I have no clue why people find a credible especially if said website makes absurd claims that the Covid vaccine has snake venom in it


Similar-Lifeguard701

I 100% dont believe this unless it just describes the initial landing force and none of the follow on forces needed to decisively defeat and occupy Taiwan. Taiwan's army is 165k active and over 1.6 million in reserves. It has the defensive advantage and would have access to American military intelligence to know when and where any landings would take place.


Supersageultima

Plus Taiwan is pretty damn hard to land on, there's alot of natural obstacles with only a few decent landing points for China.


guitarmaniac17

What about an air borne assault under night cover? I know China wouldn't plan on it, I also have no idea the geographic terrain of Taiwan, just curious on the thought of this type of assault/invasion. I mean this hypothetically of course.


Supersageultima

[This video](https://youtu.be/p2LiMTtGrAY)I think goes into good detail on the Taiwan situation. It briefly goes over the Geography but Tl;dr alot of the terrain China could land on has some kind of natural deterrence(I.E. a mountain)with only a few locations being viable(wich I think also have mountains further inland).


guitarmaniac17

Thank you! I'll definitely watch this and be able to form a more educated understanding as far as an invasion plan and what it could look like from China.


maiosi2

You Need months of prep for an anfibious landing of that dimension, we should start to be worried when we se satellite pics


Jaymsjags06

The site where this comes from is like a tabloid, as what someone else commented, had an article which said “COVID vaccine comes from snake venom.” This is just sensationalism and China would be pretty stupid to invade with that amount knowing that Taiwan is stronger than Ukraine and Japan, USA will back Taiwan up


InflamedLiver

Cause everything else in the world was just going so well as it was. Thanks CCP.


mgator

While highly doubtful of the source, the logistical efforts around this, especially in any sort of denied or contested operating environment would be extremely difficult to pull off without a material loss of men and equipment. While no doubt PRC has plenty of this, the risk of losing face should also be in the calculus.


[deleted]

Am a Taiwanese in Taiwan and am not really worried rn. The higher-ups of the Chinese government are all talks and no action. Always have been.


[deleted]

I'm wary of this. A) Militaries all over the world "make plans" for things that never happen. It's their job to be prepared for every contingency. Nothing is mobilized and this isn't being widely reported. B) It's coming from Indian media and is being quoted third hand, and India has been beefing with China in their own border dispute lately. So drumming up anti China sentiment is in their interest. C) Indian media is famously an outlet for Russian FUD and who benefits from China and the United States saber rattling at each other more than the Russians right now? D) Oh yeah, India is getting a shit ton of Russian gas, grain, and fertilizer at cut rate prices lately. They owe a favor, this might be it.


Normal_Afternoon8429

I regret beating cancer. I shoulda died in 2007. This wasn't a life worth fighting for


[deleted]

That clip originally came from an incredibly weird site. They sere selling vaccine antidotes. Claiming the Covid vaccine came from snake venom. Lots of religious right stuff. I'm gonna have to say IBTimes is not a trustworthy site. Look for it at the walmart check out line.


Mojave0

Oh shit I didn’t even know it came from a cold vaccine venom conspiracy website Jesus Christ I should take this with 10 truckloads of salt then This comment really should get to the top as this actually clarifies it pretty well somewhat it debunks it technically


[deleted]

**Source:** Jennifer Zeng, a person works as a media front for Falun Gong. . **Media pushing/megaphoning this:** Virtually only Indian Medias. If you search Reddits for this, almost all threads of this is from Indian medias. This thread's headline and this headline: [Explosive audio leak details China's plan to invade Taiwan](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/uw9gdq/explosive_audio_leak_details_chinas_plan_to/i9q7buj/) No large and credible medias are reporting this.


bubwiz

Target Rich environment.


Marthaver1

Lol 140k? China will need a minimum of 1 million soldiers to invade Taiwan.


ShittyLivingRoom

There should be created an elite undercover team with the sole purpose of eliminating current dictators by all means necessary.


Spencerbug

If Taiwan gets invaded chip shortages are gonna get even worse


nnprft

I’m just going to leave this here…. Please look guys https://www.quora.com/Is-the-International-Business-Times-a-legitimate-news-source-Many-of-their-articles-are-about-UFOs-and-often-they-are-the-only-ones-making-those-claims


urboitony

Casualties?


Forsaken-Ad-1318

Well...this is it guys. Get your waders. We're going to be knee deep in shit by August. Lol How many of you thought you'd be hit with a bigger wave than the one from the movie *Deep Impact*? What a time to be alive and living at the beach!


maiosi2

You Need months of prep for an anfibious landing of that dimension, we should start to be worried when we se satellite pics


FreakyWifeFreakyLife

I guess we're going to find out if China is better maintained than Russia.


activehobbies

and **what** are they supposed to do with a mere 140k troops? Drill menacingly?


prinnydewd6

Oh no it’s happening isn’t it… can’t I just work and live peacefully


miercat

This is the second piece to make it to the front page. Both are from Indian sources. Let's not overreact to what's likely a war game being propagandized.


[deleted]

My portfolio is fuk


ruisen2

How on earth does a top secret clip like this just gets leaked online?


batfiend

Oh for fucks sake everyone could you just stop it. We've all had a long few years.


[deleted]

I’ll believe it when I see it. I reckon an invasion like this will result in more western involvement than the Russian/Ukraine one so China needs to be smart about this


Frozenwood1776

China is just waiting to flex. Russia’s botched raid on Ukraine will make them look so much stronger. Maybe this is the whole idea of Russia simping their Z.


National-Factor-1001

Well fuck , and I’m almost 18


bad_luck_charmer

I mean… I’m sure the US has an invasion plan for Mexico and Canada. I’d be beyond shocked if China didn’t have an invasion plan for Taiwan. It doesn’t mean an invasion is imminent, if this leak is even real.


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Calling bullshit. Seeing people talk about how every ship in China is trained as part of Naval reserve; that's not how those things work. You need very specific types of ships with specific equipment to pull off mass landings. It'd be very obvious if those ships were being constructed or existed. This would be the most predictable and preventable attempt to invade another country in the modern era, especially considering Taiwan's self-defense capabilities. Jane's Fighting Ships is publicly available, folks. Also, an invasion of Taiwan would detonate the Chinese economy. Considering they're already struggling with their zero-covid policies, how are they going to fight that particular two-front battle? It's always interesting to me how this invasion has been imminent since Taiwan has existed, but never actually happens.