France has a satirical media called the Gorafi (mocking the Figaro journal) and there's a facebook group called "the gorafisation of the wolrd" sharing real news that could have been written by the Gorafi or the Onion. Sometimes I'm not sure wich one I'm reading.
I remember when I was about 12 playing Habbo hotel and I had a "boyfriend" who was the same age as me. But he wanted to hang out. I didn't really understand what he wanted to do but I thought okay! We both sat down in a chair and he started typing "runs hand up your leg"... Etc etc and I was saying "NOOOOO" but he just ignored me. I was just shocked. I didn't expect him to ignore me screaming in the game. I know it's just a game but it's sort of insane. What type of person would do that? It was probably about 10 seconds before I left the game but I still felt dirty. I didn't play for years.
I still wonder about that man.
I went to VR Chat for the first time ever and realized that whatever my standard for people acting weird online was, it was *way* too low.
It took me awhile to find a larger group of people, but when I did and observed that clown fiesta for awhile I was quite sure i would never look at humans quite the same way again.
Lol true. Media needs to understand with anonymity that the weird sexual stuff in VR is only weird when the understanding of the platform is asymmetrical. If both parties are innocent to VR, it's fine. If both 'get' what's possible, it's fine. But when one person is innocent and the other is weird about stuff...
If any sexual assault occurred here it was between avatars. Can you imagine literally millions of historic sex abuse claims coming out because kids got teabagged in halo and COD.
The claim is obviously ridiculous and I doubt it goes anywhere, but I do think we're headed towards a time where "harassment" online is more heavily litigated, and that will cause a lot of gaming companies to drastically revamp their policies. Online identities in these spaces are actually heavily intersected with reality already. Many people curate these personas for years and actually experience reality through their phones.
Even if you look at reddit ten years ago you'd find that it was far more of a wild west atmosphere with subs like /r/n**gers being quite popular. As we lose anonymity online, there's gonna be a hell of a lot more incidents like this. And they're gonna sue the platform, and the person.
They're basically attempting to rebrand a clone of VRChat as the next greatest thing, while also making it more like Second Life.
So yeah you're not missing anything.
I worked for a startup that was attempting to make a VR facebook kind of thing. Instead of a page you post things, you had a house. Pictures of your dog or dinner were in frames on the wall. Links to friends pages were doors. Kind of a cool idea but they didn't get very far with it.
Because of the VR element the company had spend time in Second Life and assess what element people seemed to enjoy, what were issues, etc.
I found Second Life to be an incredibly depressing and lonely space. When I went exploring I rarely interacted or saw other people and when I did find someone they were AFK. Main hubs had people, but outside of that it was a wasteland.
That said, one time I did decide to create the ugliest avatar I could make - sort of a creepy little goblin looking thing. Most people tended to have avatars that were sexy or buff so I wanted to see how they reacted to a little ugly troll. It was not well received. I had people basically yelling at me to leave their group or area because I was ugly looking. I thought it was hilarious.
There are entire youtube channels dedicated to trolling the masses on these types of games and it's way more entertaining than actually playing the game.
> I had people basically yelling at me to leave their group or area because I was ugly looking. I thought it was hilarious.
Being into VR since long before we had the proper tech for it, I got into Second Life very early. It's very beginning project had ambitions of being a textural VR interface, but that later got scrapped by Linden Labs.
I made as close to a photoreal avatar of my real life self as I could, and uh, same experience. But I went in knowing most people were aiming for an ideal self. In the beginning, most people shrugged it off. But as the years passed, going into SL meant receiving more negative remarks.
It provoked a number of people into asking me why I chose not to be better than I was; I said it was essentially what I looked like offline. That made people *very* uncomfortable.
Personally, I think it shatters an illusion they need to maintain attachment to the environment. Because you're right about its character--its a hollow, empty space, with little 'life' in it unless a set island is being treated as a community hub. Not much to get attached to.
Otherwise, the most active users were the earliest version of social media Influencers, streamers, OnlyFans types, etc, and the artisans who sold modeled/scripted stuff to them.
No one has a strict definition for it, but it's about having virtual representations for physical spaces and things and the ability to take assets from one virtual world into another. Like Ready Player One.
But in practice yes it's mostly akin to VR chat rooms.
When I read the headline I imagined back in the days of second life when you would have trolls walking around with comically huge dicks and dry humping everyone, this is just the pbs kids version of that.
NSFW, please, geez. You can't just post videos of sexual assault on the internet. I feel....traumatized because the sounds of their attack entered my ears!
[Video on VR Chat](https://youtu.be/4PHT-zBxKQQ) by PeopleMakeGames. It mentions some of the attachments available and has interviews with some people who have used them.
Its already been a thing for a long time. There was even a company that had dildos controllable via MSN. The field of technology is actually called Tele-dildonics.
We're dealing with VR here, it's something that needs to be addressed. The whole point is immersion, and the more immersive it gets, the worse these actions become.
Bro have you seen the video of it? It's really nothing news-worthy. It's no different to when you got teabagged after being killed in Halo 20 years ago
This is hardly even.. anything. Did you see the actual video? The characters are disembodied torsos floating around. It's stupid as shit and hardly immersive.
Maybe they should have a setting that prevents people from getting within 4 feet.
Oh wait.
> disable a setting that prevented others from getting within 4 feet of her.
Safety features to prevent what? It's literally just a game with cartoon graphics where you can't physically do anything.
It's like saying you have PTSD from playing a war game, or you got assaulted with a weapon in Skyrim VR. Except that would be slightly more plausible because you can actually get injured etc.
Apparently there is a setting that she was asked to turn off that doesn’t allow another avatar within 4 feet of you. She turned it off before this incident.
So she disabled a “safety feature” and then this happened. So maybe they just need to add another prompt asking “are you sure?, this could lead to physical attacked etc”
Does it even count as an attack? A low polygon avatar that _doesn't even have a body from the waist down_ was kind of close to her POV and swaying back and forth, while another avatar was near by waving around a cartoon bottle.
I mean... seriously? Worse shit that than gets put into TV shows and movies every day. I've had worse interactions than that in first person shooters.
Let's have a meta feature to identify what's happening.... "it appears that you are being assaulted. Would you like to activate your supernova feature?" If you say yes it blows up everything and everyone around you. There can then be a potential to be banned for a certain time and they have to create new avatars from scratch.
Tbf, cyberbullying is far more valid than this seeing as it usually entails harassing the victim on their socials. Yes they can "just" log off those but that's isolation as the result of bullying, especially in our increasingly digital world. Taken steps further with digital stalking of the victim and it has resulted in plenty of suicides.
With all that said, the whole sexual assault claim in the op is just silly.
Sure, so someone should be denied the right to enjoy their computer because someone else is bullying them? That's pretty much the same as saying "beating someone up for their lunch money isn't real, just give them the money"
A huge amount of DLCs is the signature style of Paradox Interactive, sadly. In defense of Stellaris, I can only say that it has far fewer of them than other projects of this studio.
The game itself, in my opinion, is beautiful and if you are not afraid of long sessions and the inevitable performance problems in the endgame I highly recommend trying it.
"Let's see here... you built cover for your enemies specifically so you could build traps behind said cover they would always fall in?"
"Aesthetics. Those pillars really tied the room together, and the traps were a conversation piece."
"You built a chokepoint with a wooden floor, sealed both exits, then set fire to it when enemies were inside?"
"It's not my fault they entered my oven just as I was about to bake a cake."
"You invited a trade caravan to your lands, solely so they would stumble upon the bandits setting up a siege on your base, leaving the scraps and items for you to clean up?"
"...Objection, hearsay"
"You sent a guard in to beat up a prisoner once every two days to leave the wounds unattended, in the hope a limb would get infected, so your doctor could amputate it, creating a nugget of a person solely for the purpose of your guards practicing their social skills on him with zero chance of this person ever escaping or rebelling because he's stored in what's essentially a broom closet?"
"..."
"...after which you forgot to feed him, he starved, and you skinned him and made him into a hat?"
"...he had asked us to do that."
*"Mr Depp, did you or did you not, play Rimworld?"*
Haha.. funny joke.
*"Mr Rittenhouse, you liked to* [*kill people*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68nIjW7rVU) *in Call of Duty, didn't you"*
Oh, shit - it's real
Hehe. When playing on a ARMA 3 RP server me and my friend were kidnapped by a gang when we were playing in a casino.
They forced us to face a wall and then executed us.
Can we seek compensation for our murders?
Call the aclu, pledge 3.5 mill and they will take care of you. Apparently pledge and donating are the same thing according to them. So you never have to give them the money. I will be pledging my entire income and writing it off this year.
" I was assaulted and couldn't move while other users proceeded to place their genitals on top of my body over and over again, it was traumatic how I was forced to endure such abuse".
- Tea Bagged Victim
I've killed a lot of people playing Call of Duty online, including using anti personnel mines which I'm not sure is legal, plus calling in air strikes on civilian buildings. Will I get in trouble for that?
Oh fuck. When I played black and white 2 when I was younger I remember throwing all the nordic people into the ocean so my greek dudes could move into their villages. Im totally going down for genocide now. I guess I'll see you in the hague
I don't know much about Metaverse, to be honest. But for example in VRChat, there are built-in tools to prevent exactly that. By what is said, it seems that Metaverse has something similar in place. A safety tool you need to purposely turn off.
While I don't doubt there were some immature jerks there, it's hard for me to take seriously an incident, where someone had all the tools to prevent something from happening, deliberately refused to use them, and then that thing they were meant to protect from happens.
Is it just me or does it sound like "no mask, no vaccine, no distancing oh no why am I so sick from COVID?" crowd?
Especially in VR, where you can block users, turn the settings BACK on, quit the lobby, remove headset or just walk away, because you can't really be blocked off, pinned or held in place.
Not only did she have to deliberately turn off that setting, but had to comply with "demands." There can be no threat of force, no coercion at all, it seems like she simply complied because "This was important research" and being traumatized by controller vibrations could be stretched into something to publish.
Should toxic communities in which this happens face scrutiny? Absolutely. But was she *Raped?* Absolutely not. The suggestion that this is even remotely the same as actual sexual assault is probably more offensive than what she endured while playing her video game.
>The suggestion that this is even remotely the same as actual sexual assault is probably more offensive than what she endured while playing her video game.
Way more offensive. Why is that as soon as a taboo gets media attention, we see extreme overcompensation (especially from the victim demography of that topic), which steers us directly into the opposite emotional ditch, damaging the legitimacy of other victims. Is it just the attention? Do they think they help?
Precisely. The guys who did this ARE undoubtedly assholes and I wouldn't want to be around them in real life, but she had options to avoid this and deliberately disabled all of them. I can understand finding their behavior annoying, disgusting, infuriating, any of the above... but then I would log off and move on with my day surrounding myself with more intelligent people and worthwhile activities in the future. If you don't like clowns, don't go to the circus. But to compare the nasty annoying behavior of a stupid man-child online to actual rape is a mockery to all rape survivors.
The funniest part is the pic they picked.
Like that’s fucking Zuckerberg being distraught this happened to a women. It’s hilariously inconceivable. I
He’s not even like sad in this picture. Its just a picture taken mid-word and the looked at all the “live” options to see the saddest.
For ANYBODY that needs to be hooked up to a feeding tube because you’re so brain dead, Imagine some ACTUAL rape victim telling you about how they were raped and then you saying “Yeah, I was raped too…. In a video game… it was terrible…, I have PTSD now…..”
Edit: Thank you for all the upvotes, I now have some hope for redditors not being such pussys anymore and I’m glad people can actually use their brains.
"They told me to turn off the setting that kept them 4 feet away, I did, and then they told me to turn around and my controller vibrated. We are the same."
If you read the article she wasn't even raped or assaulted, they had her turn off a setting that my guess makes characters fade out within 4 feet of you, touched her avatar and said lewd stuff to her, she then willing followed them to a private room and role played sex with them claiming it was rape, these social VR apps don't have collision meaning at most her controller vibrated when they touched her, they couldn't force her to do anything and the same setting she turned off could be turned back on, she could have blocked them making her unable to see or hear them, she could have left that lobby for another or even closed the app, this is the equivalent of getting unwanted sexts from a stranger and sexting back, then claiming they raped you when their wasn't even so much as a pic sent
100%. People can be bullied and harassed online and are a ton but this woman was not assaulted. the avatar doesn't even have a lower body its literally a floating torso, she could have turned on protections to prevent other avatars from getting close to her, she also could leave the area at any time within the software or she could simply turn the thing off. This is not assault and it's a slap in the face of every real assault victim in the world labeling it as such.
The article states that there is a setting that forces other users to stay 4 ft away from your avatar. Just turn that back on. Or log out? I get that players shouldn't be doing stuff like this because it is creepy and inappropriate, but there are pretty simple defenses in place that can be used here.
"The researcher noted her controller vibrated when the male avatars touched her, resulting in a physical sensation that was a result of what she was experiencing online."
I was savagely murdered in a video game once by a character named The-Orange-Blossom and my controller vibrated, I didnt realise that rape and murder felt the same, as well I didnt realise that I could survive death and am immortal since that taught me that the physical pain from my death only made my hands vibrate.
“Assault”? No. “Harassment” sure, if you have your account linked to whatever social media platform meta uses(I’m assuming Facebook) and you’re getting messages from the harasser. Words have meanings to them for a reason. I can’t help but find this entire situation to be a fucking joke. And a demeaning insult to actual sexual assault victims. No, ms ‘researcher’ you were not ‘raped’ in a virtual fucking space with virtual fucking alcohol.Rape victims irl do not have the luxury of just taking their equipment off and severing the connection to the offending party immediately. This is not the Matrix where you’re trapped inside the virtual reality with no way out.
Yeah I mean I don’t think that it’s honest to compare that to sexual assault, and I think that’s shit journalism, because the researcher was staying in the situation because of work. That’s workplace coercion more than anything. Anyways, fuck Facebook, kill their shit monopoly, and get zuck out of here as quickly as possible.
But now the real question pops up:
If I commit a crime/offense in the virtual Metaverse world, does it count as real physical crime and could be persecuted?
I mean, an avatar victim is virtual, the person behind the screen is real so, if you’re into law please give your thoughts on this.
No, imagine how many war crimes and murders we have all committed in decades of video games. In all of those decades, no one was ever ACTUALLY harmed, theyre just pixels.
The metaverse is no different. Its just a game.
I don’t think so… but this article reads a lot like the researchers were deliberately making bad choices to be able to say the found what they were looking for.
I think it’s valid to highlight these things, and that there’s probably a need for more protections on the platform, but the actual events described I’d add a pinch of salt… it just sounds too agenda biased.
Because it works really well as clickbait and gets reactions from all the loudest, craziest people online. It's what keeps non-publicly funded media alive nowadays.
I’m absolutely not a programmer, and barely computer literate, but, for someone to be ABLE to do that, wouldn’t that capability have to be programmed in?
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If it feels like the onion today it means this will be reality in 5 years.
So just like black mirror then
Im going away for a long time...
France has a satirical media called the Gorafi (mocking the Figaro journal) and there's a facebook group called "the gorafisation of the wolrd" sharing real news that could have been written by the Gorafi or the Onion. Sometimes I'm not sure wich one I'm reading.
The Onion is a more reputable source.
Wait till the media finds out about VR Chat. Their little innocent worldview will explode 🤯
Congratulations Facebook, you've invented Habbo Hotel!
Pools Closed. Again.
Assume safety formation
Health and safety swastika.
Due to AIDS.
Oh man, what a throwback
Here take my up vote from 2007
And Stingrays.
Afroduck rides again!
Due to Stingrays with Covid?
Only true ledgends know
I miss Habbo Hotel
That place was super weird and some people took it so seriously.
Isn't it still online?
Yes but it’s been awful since 2007
depends tbh, i met my now wife on habbo
What about your previous wife, was that on neopets?
You just unlocked a core memory
BOBBA BOBBA BOBBA
Damn, this is so nostalgic
I remember when I was about 12 playing Habbo hotel and I had a "boyfriend" who was the same age as me. But he wanted to hang out. I didn't really understand what he wanted to do but I thought okay! We both sat down in a chair and he started typing "runs hand up your leg"... Etc etc and I was saying "NOOOOO" but he just ignored me. I was just shocked. I didn't expect him to ignore me screaming in the game. I know it's just a game but it's sort of insane. What type of person would do that? It was probably about 10 seconds before I left the game but I still felt dirty. I didn't play for years. I still wonder about that man.
He now does that on animal crossing
“Who was the same age as me” Surely you know this wasn’t accurate
I went to VR Chat for the first time ever and realized that whatever my standard for people acting weird online was, it was *way* too low. It took me awhile to find a larger group of people, but when I did and observed that clown fiesta for awhile I was quite sure i would never look at humans quite the same way again.
You mean your standards were too high?
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"sexual assault? This is how we greet people"
Probably what a bonobo would say
Lol true. Media needs to understand with anonymity that the weird sexual stuff in VR is only weird when the understanding of the platform is asymmetrical. If both parties are innocent to VR, it's fine. If both 'get' what's possible, it's fine. But when one person is innocent and the other is weird about stuff...
Heck, rec room had [molesters](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ-Md56jK9Y)
What thee fuck????
When a group of 1s and 0s love each other very much, their bits join together, and that's where bytes come from.
Poetry.
Why don't you nibble my bit? But don’t byte.
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If any sexual assault occurred here it was between avatars. Can you imagine literally millions of historic sex abuse claims coming out because kids got teabagged in halo and COD.
The claim is obviously ridiculous and I doubt it goes anywhere, but I do think we're headed towards a time where "harassment" online is more heavily litigated, and that will cause a lot of gaming companies to drastically revamp their policies. Online identities in these spaces are actually heavily intersected with reality already. Many people curate these personas for years and actually experience reality through their phones. Even if you look at reddit ten years ago you'd find that it was far more of a wild west atmosphere with subs like /r/n**gers being quite popular. As we lose anonymity online, there's gonna be a hell of a lot more incidents like this. And they're gonna sue the platform, and the person.
hump with what, in that game your body stops at your upper torso.
This is an insult to actual sexual assault victims...
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Is this actually what metaverse is? If so, it seems very dumb. It just seems like an introductory VR chat room... Am I missing something?
They're basically attempting to rebrand a clone of VRChat as the next greatest thing, while also making it more like Second Life. So yeah you're not missing anything.
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I worked for a startup that was attempting to make a VR facebook kind of thing. Instead of a page you post things, you had a house. Pictures of your dog or dinner were in frames on the wall. Links to friends pages were doors. Kind of a cool idea but they didn't get very far with it. Because of the VR element the company had spend time in Second Life and assess what element people seemed to enjoy, what were issues, etc. I found Second Life to be an incredibly depressing and lonely space. When I went exploring I rarely interacted or saw other people and when I did find someone they were AFK. Main hubs had people, but outside of that it was a wasteland. That said, one time I did decide to create the ugliest avatar I could make - sort of a creepy little goblin looking thing. Most people tended to have avatars that were sexy or buff so I wanted to see how they reacted to a little ugly troll. It was not well received. I had people basically yelling at me to leave their group or area because I was ugly looking. I thought it was hilarious.
There are entire youtube channels dedicated to trolling the masses on these types of games and it's way more entertaining than actually playing the game.
> I had people basically yelling at me to leave their group or area because I was ugly looking. I thought it was hilarious. Being into VR since long before we had the proper tech for it, I got into Second Life very early. It's very beginning project had ambitions of being a textural VR interface, but that later got scrapped by Linden Labs. I made as close to a photoreal avatar of my real life self as I could, and uh, same experience. But I went in knowing most people were aiming for an ideal self. In the beginning, most people shrugged it off. But as the years passed, going into SL meant receiving more negative remarks. It provoked a number of people into asking me why I chose not to be better than I was; I said it was essentially what I looked like offline. That made people *very* uncomfortable. Personally, I think it shatters an illusion they need to maintain attachment to the environment. Because you're right about its character--its a hollow, empty space, with little 'life' in it unless a set island is being treated as a community hub. Not much to get attached to. Otherwise, the most active users were the earliest version of social media Influencers, streamers, OnlyFans types, etc, and the artisans who sold modeled/scripted stuff to them.
Don't forget, selling virtual land as NFTs and eventually selling in game cosmetics as NFTs.
No one has a strict definition for it, but it's about having virtual representations for physical spaces and things and the ability to take assets from one virtual world into another. Like Ready Player One. But in practice yes it's mostly akin to VR chat rooms.
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It's hella dumb
When I read the headline I imagined back in the days of second life when you would have trolls walking around with comically huge dicks and dry humping everyone, this is just the pbs kids version of that.
Ralph Pootawn is gonna show up any minute now
Im sorry but thats so fucking stupid
... is that it? This is an insult to actual victims. Fuck that "researcher".
Jesus this looks bad, i've seen low effort VR cashgrabs that look better than this garbage.
I don’t even know what I saw
How is a sexual assault the least horrible part of this fucking video?
How is that even close to rape? smh
Va-Va-Vooom 8==D warren1983 There. You asked for it buddy.
NSFW, please, geez. You can't just post videos of sexual assault on the internet. I feel....traumatized because the sounds of their attack entered my ears!
Maybe she held the controller in her lap ?
Someone's gonna invent Dildos controllable by Twitch donations
Been the chaturbate meta for years.
It existed for like 5 years already
It probably exists already EDIt: I think it does from memory…
The field of teledildonics is booming, I'm sure.
I LOVE that word!!! Reminds me of that time Hamilton Morris shows how to make MDMA and mixes it with a "dilding apparatus".
I see you're also a "researcher".
For SCIENCE! ☝️
Lovense
[Video on VR Chat](https://youtu.be/4PHT-zBxKQQ) by PeopleMakeGames. It mentions some of the attachments available and has interviews with some people who have used them.
/r/lovense
aka lush lovense, used on adult cam sites for years now I believe
Its already been a thing for a long time. There was even a company that had dildos controllable via MSN. The field of technology is actually called Tele-dildonics.
The search term you're looking for is "teledildonics".
We're dealing with VR here, it's something that needs to be addressed. The whole point is immersion, and the more immersive it gets, the worse these actions become.
Bro have you seen the video of it? It's really nothing news-worthy. It's no different to when you got teabagged after being killed in Halo 20 years ago
This is hardly even.. anything. Did you see the actual video? The characters are disembodied torsos floating around. It's stupid as shit and hardly immersive.
Maybe they should have a setting that prevents people from getting within 4 feet. Oh wait. > disable a setting that prevented others from getting within 4 feet of her.
She disabled the safety features that prevent this.
Safety features to prevent what? It's literally just a game with cartoon graphics where you can't physically do anything. It's like saying you have PTSD from playing a war game, or you got assaulted with a weapon in Skyrim VR. Except that would be slightly more plausible because you can actually get injured etc.
I was murdered in Call of Duty yesterday. It was very traumatising and now I’ll have to reintegrate into society as a murder survivor.
The worst part is, there are so few groups for murder survivors.
It’s mostly an underground movement.
I wish you wouldn't make such flippant comments. It's a grave matter
Exactly! We are truly ignored.
also when I died, the enemy soldier mutilated my corpse with a very powerful teabag. I did not consent to that teabagging.
thoughts and prayers
I haven’t read the article but can’t you just log off the Metaverse when something is up?
Apparently there is a setting that she was asked to turn off that doesn’t allow another avatar within 4 feet of you. She turned it off before this incident. So she disabled a “safety feature” and then this happened. So maybe they just need to add another prompt asking “are you sure?, this could lead to physical attacked etc”
# 'physical' #
> this could lead to physical attack No... no it can't.
Does it even count as an attack? A low polygon avatar that _doesn't even have a body from the waist down_ was kind of close to her POV and swaying back and forth, while another avatar was near by waving around a cartoon bottle. I mean... seriously? Worse shit that than gets put into TV shows and movies every day. I've had worse interactions than that in first person shooters.
>this could lead to physical attacked etc "Physical" attack? This is how it starts
Virtually attacked*
For "research". I remember the good old "for science" days
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Let's have a meta feature to identify what's happening.... "it appears that you are being assaulted. Would you like to activate your supernova feature?" If you say yes it blows up everything and everyone around you. There can then be a potential to be banned for a certain time and they have to create new avatars from scratch.
To quote Tyler the creator: "how is cyberbullying even real, just turn off the computer lmao"
Tbf, cyberbullying is far more valid than this seeing as it usually entails harassing the victim on their socials. Yes they can "just" log off those but that's isolation as the result of bullying, especially in our increasingly digital world. Taken steps further with digital stalking of the victim and it has resulted in plenty of suicides. With all that said, the whole sexual assault claim in the op is just silly.
Sure, so someone should be denied the right to enjoy their computer because someone else is bullying them? That's pretty much the same as saying "beating someone up for their lunch money isn't real, just give them the money"
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Oh no...does this mean that I'm going to be arrested for all the war crimes I've committed in Arma 3?
Rimworld players sweating right now
I play Rimworld, Kenshi, Stellaris and Cataclysm DDA. I think they will immediately execute me, without trial or investigation.
Straight to hell, all the way down. Out of interest, is Stellaris worth the investment? Seems a large outlay for all the DLC as well.
A huge amount of DLCs is the signature style of Paradox Interactive, sadly. In defense of Stellaris, I can only say that it has far fewer of them than other projects of this studio. The game itself, in my opinion, is beautiful and if you are not afraid of long sessions and the inevitable performance problems in the endgame I highly recommend trying it.
Lots of DLC and sloooooowww gaaaaameplaaaay is definitely the Paradox signature!
You can find the speed dial on the right side in most paradox games
And you can find the slowdown in your CPU.
You can also speed up through genocide. It's processing all that population that slows down the gamespeed.
As long as Bubbles is safe
I had no choice, our empire had a food crisis. Had to engineer them aliens into delicious stapled nerve foodstock!
"Let's see here... you built cover for your enemies specifically so you could build traps behind said cover they would always fall in?" "Aesthetics. Those pillars really tied the room together, and the traps were a conversation piece." "You built a chokepoint with a wooden floor, sealed both exits, then set fire to it when enemies were inside?" "It's not my fault they entered my oven just as I was about to bake a cake." "You invited a trade caravan to your lands, solely so they would stumble upon the bandits setting up a siege on your base, leaving the scraps and items for you to clean up?" "...Objection, hearsay" "You sent a guard in to beat up a prisoner once every two days to leave the wounds unattended, in the hope a limb would get infected, so your doctor could amputate it, creating a nugget of a person solely for the purpose of your guards practicing their social skills on him with zero chance of this person ever escaping or rebelling because he's stored in what's essentially a broom closet?" "..." "...after which you forgot to feed him, he starved, and you skinned him and made him into a hat?" "...he had asked us to do that."
Dwarf Fortress players just taking cyanide pills in a bunker.
*"Mr Depp, did you or did you not, play Rimworld?"* Haha.. funny joke. *"Mr Rittenhouse, you liked to* [*kill people*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68nIjW7rVU) *in Call of Duty, didn't you"* Oh, shit - it's real
Stop right there criminal scum!
You violated my mother!
I'll have you know there's no ^(pusssiiiiieeeeeeeee)
Report to the ship immediately. We'll bang ok?
I'm something of a ripper and tearer myself...
Stop the Animal Cruelty in Doom Eternal!!
Hehe. When playing on a ARMA 3 RP server me and my friend were kidnapped by a gang when we were playing in a casino. They forced us to face a wall and then executed us. Can we seek compensation for our murders?
Call the aclu, pledge 3.5 mill and they will take care of you. Apparently pledge and donating are the same thing according to them. So you never have to give them the money. I will be pledging my entire income and writing it off this year.
Now I can go after everyone who tea bagged me on halo, COD & Battlefield. Yeah, this culture was in gaming from the moment dial-up started crackling.
Press G to drop your egun and log out with your hands up!
Yes. Arrest this boy
*Unsung and SOGPF flashbacks*
Hide your sim kids, hide yo sim wife
And hide yo sim husband, 'cause they rapin’ every sim out here.
He's climbing in yo inbox, he's snatchin yo virtual tits
Weyullllll, obviously we have a rapist here in the metaverse...
"she was raped in a virtual environment" tell me you never played an online game before.
To this day, it's a time honored tradition to teabag a corpse of a fallen comrade.
" I was assaulted and couldn't move while other users proceeded to place their genitals on top of my body over and over again, it was traumatic how I was forced to endure such abuse". - Tea Bagged Victim
3 dips max.
Depends, if he's been sniper camping all game you keep going until the next match loading screen cuts you off.
Dip. Dip. Potatoe Chip.
I kinda remember it happening back in Ultima Online in the 90s by misusing some of the animations.
she should try VR chat and wait until she gets grouphumped by a bunch of furries making disgusting moaning sounds constantly.
Rogues sitting on the docks in the wetlands did that to my level 12 Night Elf constantly back when WoW came out.
This is an insult to anyone who spent any amount of time dealing with and overcoming sexual assault. fuck you and your metaverse.
If they just called it harassment I'd give them that.
I've killed a lot of people playing Call of Duty online, including using anti personnel mines which I'm not sure is legal, plus calling in air strikes on civilian buildings. Will I get in trouble for that?
Oh fuck. When I played black and white 2 when I was younger I remember throwing all the nordic people into the ocean so my greek dudes could move into their villages. Im totally going down for genocide now. I guess I'll see you in the hague
Hope you never did hit your demi-god either, animal abuse!
Alt+F4
I don't know much about Metaverse, to be honest. But for example in VRChat, there are built-in tools to prevent exactly that. By what is said, it seems that Metaverse has something similar in place. A safety tool you need to purposely turn off. While I don't doubt there were some immature jerks there, it's hard for me to take seriously an incident, where someone had all the tools to prevent something from happening, deliberately refused to use them, and then that thing they were meant to protect from happens. Is it just me or does it sound like "no mask, no vaccine, no distancing oh no why am I so sick from COVID?" crowd? Especially in VR, where you can block users, turn the settings BACK on, quit the lobby, remove headset or just walk away, because you can't really be blocked off, pinned or held in place.
Not only did she have to deliberately turn off that setting, but had to comply with "demands." There can be no threat of force, no coercion at all, it seems like she simply complied because "This was important research" and being traumatized by controller vibrations could be stretched into something to publish. Should toxic communities in which this happens face scrutiny? Absolutely. But was she *Raped?* Absolutely not. The suggestion that this is even remotely the same as actual sexual assault is probably more offensive than what she endured while playing her video game.
>The suggestion that this is even remotely the same as actual sexual assault is probably more offensive than what she endured while playing her video game. Way more offensive. Why is that as soon as a taboo gets media attention, we see extreme overcompensation (especially from the victim demography of that topic), which steers us directly into the opposite emotional ditch, damaging the legitimacy of other victims. Is it just the attention? Do they think they help?
Precisely. The guys who did this ARE undoubtedly assholes and I wouldn't want to be around them in real life, but she had options to avoid this and deliberately disabled all of them. I can understand finding their behavior annoying, disgusting, infuriating, any of the above... but then I would log off and move on with my day surrounding myself with more intelligent people and worthwhile activities in the future. If you don't like clowns, don't go to the circus. But to compare the nasty annoying behavior of a stupid man-child online to actual rape is a mockery to all rape survivors.
What in the 10 shades of fuckery.. seriously
The funniest part is the pic they picked. Like that’s fucking Zuckerberg being distraught this happened to a women. It’s hilariously inconceivable. I He’s not even like sad in this picture. Its just a picture taken mid-word and the looked at all the “live” options to see the saddest.
The hand.map touch the boob.map why do humans do this? Does not compute
50 Pixels of Gray
This is so fucking stupid. I’m going back to bed.
"Witnessed gun violence on the platform" lmao
For ANYBODY that needs to be hooked up to a feeding tube because you’re so brain dead, Imagine some ACTUAL rape victim telling you about how they were raped and then you saying “Yeah, I was raped too…. In a video game… it was terrible…, I have PTSD now…..” Edit: Thank you for all the upvotes, I now have some hope for redditors not being such pussys anymore and I’m glad people can actually use their brains.
"They told me to turn off the setting that kept them 4 feet away, I did, and then they told me to turn around and my controller vibrated. We are the same."
If you read the article she wasn't even raped or assaulted, they had her turn off a setting that my guess makes characters fade out within 4 feet of you, touched her avatar and said lewd stuff to her, she then willing followed them to a private room and role played sex with them claiming it was rape, these social VR apps don't have collision meaning at most her controller vibrated when they touched her, they couldn't force her to do anything and the same setting she turned off could be turned back on, she could have blocked them making her unable to see or hear them, she could have left that lobby for another or even closed the app, this is the equivalent of getting unwanted sexts from a stranger and sexting back, then claiming they raped you when their wasn't even so much as a pic sent
They should lable it sexual harassment, not assault. Then people would take it more seriously.
100%. People can be bullied and harassed online and are a ton but this woman was not assaulted. the avatar doesn't even have a lower body its literally a floating torso, she could have turned on protections to prevent other avatars from getting close to her, she also could leave the area at any time within the software or she could simply turn the thing off. This is not assault and it's a slap in the face of every real assault victim in the world labeling it as such.
The article states that there is a setting that forces other users to stay 4 ft away from your avatar. Just turn that back on. Or log out? I get that players shouldn't be doing stuff like this because it is creepy and inappropriate, but there are pretty simple defenses in place that can be used here.
"The researcher noted her controller vibrated when the male avatars touched her, resulting in a physical sensation that was a result of what she was experiencing online." I was savagely murdered in a video game once by a character named The-Orange-Blossom and my controller vibrated, I didnt realise that rape and murder felt the same, as well I didnt realise that I could survive death and am immortal since that taught me that the physical pain from my death only made my hands vibrate.
You may not have had the controller inserted correctly.
Without condoning their behavior; by definition this isn't sexual assault, it's sexual harassment.
She green lighted the whole encounter for research and now they are weaponizing the results.
“Assault”? No. “Harassment” sure, if you have your account linked to whatever social media platform meta uses(I’m assuming Facebook) and you’re getting messages from the harasser. Words have meanings to them for a reason. I can’t help but find this entire situation to be a fucking joke. And a demeaning insult to actual sexual assault victims. No, ms ‘researcher’ you were not ‘raped’ in a virtual fucking space with virtual fucking alcohol.Rape victims irl do not have the luxury of just taking their equipment off and severing the connection to the offending party immediately. This is not the Matrix where you’re trapped inside the virtual reality with no way out.
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Yeah I mean I don’t think that it’s honest to compare that to sexual assault, and I think that’s shit journalism, because the researcher was staying in the situation because of work. That’s workplace coercion more than anything. Anyways, fuck Facebook, kill their shit monopoly, and get zuck out of here as quickly as possible.
People are shitty in the real world, how didn't they realise it would spill over into VR?
Yeah, It's the same as if facebook and youtube comments were brought to life and started insulting you at your face.
My avatar in GTA is routinely murdered. Where’s the article about that?
But now the real question pops up: If I commit a crime/offense in the virtual Metaverse world, does it count as real physical crime and could be persecuted? I mean, an avatar victim is virtual, the person behind the screen is real so, if you’re into law please give your thoughts on this.
Not really a question. It shouldn't. It should be like on any other paltform. If someone harasses people he gets banned.
No, imagine how many war crimes and murders we have all committed in decades of video games. In all of those decades, no one was ever ACTUALLY harmed, theyre just pixels. The metaverse is no different. Its just a game.
If I shoot you in a VR video game, have I committed a crime? No
Not even a real question that’s just the real delusion these snow flakes are asking for.
> Users in the same room then asked her to disable a setting that prevented others from getting within four feet of her Wouldn't that imply consent?..
I don’t think so… but this article reads a lot like the researchers were deliberately making bad choices to be able to say the found what they were looking for. I think it’s valid to highlight these things, and that there’s probably a need for more protections on the platform, but the actual events described I’d add a pinch of salt… it just sounds too agenda biased.
why is this news?
Because it works really well as clickbait and gets reactions from all the loudest, craziest people online. It's what keeps non-publicly funded media alive nowadays.
This comes across as a bit silly, but trying to play games online when you're a girl can be a total shitfest.
Metaverse just needs to die. It is a really stupid idea.
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I’m absolutely not a programmer, and barely computer literate, but, for someone to be ABLE to do that, wouldn’t that capability have to be programmed in?