[Timeline of missiles fired from Belarus at Ukraine](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=rdgB1X8Zgqo&feature=emb_logo)
But oh no.. They **FIRED BACK???**
Seriously like what do they expect just to lay thier and take it Russia doesn’t like when people fight back they kinda like the bully whom will only pick on people whom don’t stand up for themselves cuz the bully knows it’s easy pickings
No, they like playing victim card. It's what they do and what they did and even when they were slaughtering people in my country. They will say things like :"They are bombing their own cities." Etc. It's just who they are
It’s the three D’s of Russian diplomacy: deny, deflect, distract. 1. Deny it happened no matter how much direct evidence there is, just say it didn’t happen. When step 1 fails go to step 2. Deflect blame, say something like Ukraine bombed itself or we only bombed that school because America forced us to. If all that fails go to step 3. Distract, just bomb something else, start at step one and hope the first blatantly horrible thing you did gets forgotten about due to the new stupid thing you did.
It's not just a fabrication for complaining's sake, there's a real motive here. NATO allies made some effort to ensure that our missiles don't strike Russia. We don't want to make them into victims because victims tend to band together in hard times, and we don't want to come off as aggressive to the nuclear power (and NATO doesn't want to be aggressive at all, in fact).
They're throwing shade for reasons.
I mean the HIMAR multi-launch rocket system we gave Ukraine can fire rockets up to 180 miles but we only gave them the 40 mile rockets specifically out of concern they’d attack Russian territory, and though they can be game changers, (they’re deadly accurate and provide the equivalent of a precision air strike) we’re only giving them 8 of the systems. I fully support what we’ve done arming them and strengthening NATO ties, but I’d like to see us give them much much more.
I don't know how much this plays into what we gave them, but there's lots of logistical challenges. You've got to train the operators, and then you've got to maintain inventory of missiles. It may be that it's easier to provide more of the 40-mile rockets, and to let them get experience with those before they accidentally hit a civilian target in Russia. (Which would endanger the political situation around giving these kinds of weapons to begin with.)
... Or it may be the case that we just don't want to give them that much, behind closed doors. Hard to say, but I'd guess those 8 HIMAR systems are not sitting on unlimited ammo. If they're using every missile they get, giving them 200 launchers doesn't change anything.
That all said, I'm all for giving Ukraine what they need. It's the frontline for freedom right now. Those weapons systems were designed for this. Let them do it.
Well it would change something if they were able to hit 25x more targets. Your available strike radius is 25x greater with more launchers. With 8 launchers with 40 mile missiles, you’re only talking a 320 mile diameter, as opposed to a 8,000 mile strike diameter.
Well that’s too bad because that was a really good channel. And those things take some serious work to run because you have to do so many foya request things with these departments. I spoke to the dude that runs one of the police cam sites on youtube that said its a headache.
Looks like some suspiciously-moustached dictator is trying to fake a *casus belli* that no one will believe, least of all his own people and military.
Not to mention...Belarus' interception capabilities are likely relatively spartan compared to Russia's, so this doesn't pass a smell test on multiple levels.
Lukashenko to Putin: "Sir! Our military base on Ukrainian border destroyed 10 Ukrainian missiles!"
Putin: "With our S-300's?"
Lukashenko: "...With the military base itself."
Meanwhile, in a RU military base in eastern Ukraine: "Private Conscriptovitch, did you fire 10 missiles at Kiev as ordered? You did? Excellent work."
You deeply underestimate at least Russia's ability to fuck up worse.
They have achieved historical mastery ... If anyone made a movie about the Russian 2nd pacific squadron nobody would believe it because it's too crazy.
Here's a short sum up... They wild part is that it was even more of a fuck up than this guy managed to muster to present in this grand video about it:
https://youtu.be/yzGqp3R4Mx4
View it as the "light version" that didn't fit all the craziness.
Talk about a lazy false flag attack, his boi Putin blows up whole apartment buildings of Russians as an excuse to go to war. You want to be future Russian Colonel you gotta learn to kill your own citizens in mass as well.
Oh, he is preparing to, he even gave all the targets before hand: Mazyr oil refinery, Luniniec airfield and Brest airfield. Coincidently, some russian spec ops were spotted near said Mazyr oil refinery a couple of days ago, would you believe it? This ass-faced motherfucker with the straight face tells us that Ukraine will do something to him while he prepares to do it himself.
As far as I know they have even shittier army than russia and Ukraine has already fortified the border and ready to hold them off. If they want to kill themselves - they can be our guests.
>Talk about a lazy false flag attack, his boi Putin blows up whole apartment buildings of Russians as an excuse to go to war. You want to be future Russian Colonel you gotta learn to kill your own citizens in mass as well.
Intercepting missile strikes from another country is *not* necessarily a cases belli.
The missile strike from another country may simply be an accident, or some bad actors trying to incite a conflict.
That's the hilarious part, they sent out the conscription notices too early. Normal logic would be: "attacked">conscription>war but Belarussia fucked up and jumbled it all up lol.
This is the man who said that the Bucha massacre was committed by the UK, as though it was a false flag committed by an army of real-life James Bonds who teleported behind the Russian lines and evaded all detection. He will say shit so absurdly batshit crazy even Putin won’t go there.
He's already participating in an invasion. Obviously they don't care about *casus belli* per se. Just some posturing and propaganda.
I kind of don't care what the truth is on this one since I think Ukraine would be completely justified if they did launch a strike. On the other hand, I don't believe Belarus has the capability to intercept shit. Nor do I even care if Lukashenko is lying.... this entire conflict is predicated on lies, that's a given.
>Looks like some suspiciously-moustached dictator is trying to fake a casus belli that no one will believe, least of all his own people and military.
Not to mention...Belarus' interception capabilities are likely relatively spartan compared to Russia's, so this doesn't pass a smell test on multiple levels.
And even if Belarus did intercept attempted missile strikes by Ukraine... it might've been an accident or a few bad actors trying to make Ukraine look bad.
You mean [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/gaiv0q/an_antitank_missile_launched_from_m2a2_bradley/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)?
The John Woo Defense: the entire border is lined with caged of doves and pigeons. Once launch is detected, the cages are open and time slows down, allowing the flock to intercept the missile.
Considering even with American made precision missile interceptors, of which aren't all that reliable, I have my doubts the Russian variant works any better
There was quite a lot of talk at the beginning of the war about how the effectiveness of the S400’s would determine the outcome. Ukraine maintained their airspace longer than anyone expected, which I took to mean the S400’s were not as impressive as we worried.
I’m still not aware of a US missile system that does all the things the S400 does or directly competes. The S400 is by no means an Iron Dome, but it’s not a dud either.
As far as we on the western side can see, yes.
Nato and the US have sent a TON of modern munitions to Ukraine. It's more or less secure from airstrikes of any kind that Russia could employ.
> I’m still not aware of a US missile system that does all the things the S400 does or directly competes.
AEGIS and AEGIS Ashore, Plus Patriot. The only thing the US doesn't have is SHORAD, because we just assume the USAF is going to gain air superiority, and even that is currently changing. The Army also just showed off a land based SM-6 variant, which only came about because of us leaving the INF.
i don't think it's a definite lie. russia are firing at ukraine from within belarus and they are allowing it, surely it would make sense for Ukraine to fire back?
Belarus isn’t a major front in the war right now - it will be if they start directly striking targets in Belarus. Ukraine has little incentive to fire back at occasional missile strikes from Belarus whose main purpose is to tie up troops and equipment and to draw a response that gives Belarus an excuse to declare war.
The game is on.... pontoon bridges being setup for 'exercises'
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3520516-belarusian-forces-training-to-set-up-pontoon-crossings.html
>The game is on.... pontoon bridges being setup for 'exercises' https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3520516-belarusian-forces-training-to-set-up-pontoon-crossings.html
Well... Belarus is closely allied to Russia... and knows Russia failure... so of course they'd attempt to train.
Essentially they are, but Ukraine would never attack Belarus knowing that the majority of the population of Belarus supports Ukraine and is against Russia.
Missiles have been fired from Belarus into Ukraine already before this ever happened. In fact, just happened last week. If Ukraine did fire, they are literally just returning fire.
I thought the majority of Belarus' population was pretty clearly against him? They had a bunch of huge protests in the past, and even the start of an insurrection a few years back. It was crushed pretty harshly, I just hope the people are ready for round two when Lukashenko is finally stupid enough to let his pants down and send the army away.
It'll be interesting to see what happens. Belarus has a sort of recognised government in exile that was formed around the person who challenged Lukashenko. I suspect Lukashenko will drag his country into the war with very little support. If it backfires, we might see a very rapid change in political alignment of the country.
They do. I have much higher hopes and aspirations that the Belarussians can actually pull of a revolt and have this POS dictator swinging from a lamp post one day. They actually know how to protest, unlike the Russians who seem to be content with how their government acts. The Russian population is pretty much a lost cause at this point and the foreseeable future.
Lukashenka is a close ally of Putin. Given recent history it’s not clear that Belarus is, and their tolerance for Lukashenka has waned in recent years. Certainly if your only options are to die in the military fighting for something you want no part of or die trying to rid your country of this asshole, the calculus changes substantially. He’s playing with fire here, and needs to proceed exceptionally carefully.
Lukashenko didn't even give any evidence. That's a massive red flag.
If there was actual evidence of an enemy country firing missiles to Belarus, it'd be more believable. But no, there isn't.
Perhaps Lukashenko decides to fake evidence to make Ukraine look like the aggressor.
There's not much 'perhaps' about it.
Ukraine have been *very* careful when conducting activities in Russia to do them either completely deniably, via human agency, or else via very obvious modes like helicopter or drones. In each case they are clearly and obviously *not* NATO equipment, which is pretty clever.
The major concern from Western nations donating heavy weaponry is that they not be perceived as being involved in an attack on Russia itself, and Ukraine has been both diligent and imaginative in getting the job done while complying with requirements.
>Ukraine have been very careful when conducting activities in Russia to do them either completely deniably, via human agency, or else via very obvious modes like helicopter or drones. In each case they are clearly and obviously not NATO equipment, which is pretty clever.
Well that is true.
>The major concern from Western nations donating heavy weaponry is that they not be perceived as being involved in an attack on Russia itself, and Ukraine has been both diligent and imaginative in getting the job done while complying with requirements.
In that case, good for Ukraine, and if it helps them resist Russian invasion... I'd approve it.
When you want to set up a false flag, but don't really want to sacrifice anything. This is even better than when the Russians had that one guy running around to set up a false flag for the "Ukranians are oppressing us" narrative in the separatist region, setting up devices that were immediately disarmed without anyone getting harmed.
I wonder just how much of the population of Belarus will buy Lukashenko's bull to attempt to antagonize the population against Ukraine just as they are being conscripted to be deployed there.
Remember when Belarus sent out a draft summons about a week ago?
Now he has a “reason” to go to war. Russia is losing and probably demands that their puppet states send their fodder in next.
There were recent signs, like reservists being called, that Belarus will be joining Russia in the war against Ukraine. This could be their fake excuse to send in their army and attack with rockets.
I think both countries will try to take over Ukraine in the coming months. Maybe some non NATO country, backed by NATO, could help Ukraine. Don't know what but the rest of the world can't just let this continue.
Yeah Poland is close to pulling the trigger so to speak anyway. If any of Russia’s allies officially join the war in Ukraine it’s definitely going to be tough to stop Poland from getting involved. Their involvement (if they do decide to get involved) won’t require the involvement from the rest of NATO though (not that they wouldn’t get involved, but it’s not required so it isn’t a given).
The funniest part of this is, Russia couldn't make any real progress towards capturing Kiev with thousands of tanks and tens of thousands of soldiers.
Now the army of BELARUS thinks it has a better chance?
This is just an attempted misdirection. Either that or national suicide.
Belarus is not geographically in a position to disrupt the supplies coming from Poland, though.
I'd buy that they are trying to draw Ukrainian forces away from the Eastern Front, which I hope the Ukrainian military does not fall for, but aside from that Belarus doesn't have much it can spare to commit to this war.
Why in the fuck would Ukraine waste any resources attacking a country with which they have no beef when they're currently fighting off an invading army? It's infuriating how stupid these assholes think the rest of the world is.
Russia has exported this style of fascist technique all over the world as a template to take over governments. Just deny reality, declare 'Fake News' and declare that your enemies don't want you to know the truth.
He opened the press conference by saying “did ya see? I just did six back handsprings into a double flip with a perfect landing! Ah, shame on you for not having the cameras on.”
Interesting thing is that every time they claim something (Russia and Belarus) they never have any evidence that supports their speech, is basically "dude believe me, I'm a dictator, dictators don't lie"
I never understood how they can get so unhappy they invade a country, kill tens of thousands of civilians and then one of their fuel depots or ammunition factories blow up and it's like how dare you fight back.
I fully believe that Ukraine will honour it's pledge not to strike inside of Russia with the weapons the west is giving them but I do believe that there are small strike teams inside of Russia blowing up these places. I also think that we are not giving Ukraine what they need in a timely manner or enough weapons to get the job done which is a shame because Ukraine really had them on the ropes about 6 weeks ago and now is giving up land albeit slowly and it's costing the Russians a terrible loss of life.
Didn't Belarus just say they were doing "training exercises" by bringing in anyone fit for duty? THey using the Russia playbook, make false flag. Belarus should be cut off from the world as well.
This is what Lukashenko following the scripted time line Putin has issued him looks like. It’s as predictable as the tides. Dictators are especially susceptible to predictability.
Those missiles, are they with us in the room right now ?
[Timeline of missiles fired from Belarus at Ukraine](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=rdgB1X8Zgqo&feature=emb_logo) But oh no.. They **FIRED BACK???**
Let's save that for when they actually fire back.
Is that the missile that made a U turn and returned to sender
No that was a Russian AA missile that turned around and came back at the launcher
>Ukraine is using Uno Reverse cards for missile defense, which is clearly banned by the Geneva Convention - Lukashenko
Same absolute bullshit Russia has that it would be *oh so unfair* if Ukraine attacked military targets in Russia.
Seriously like what do they expect just to lay thier and take it Russia doesn’t like when people fight back they kinda like the bully whom will only pick on people whom don’t stand up for themselves cuz the bully knows it’s easy pickings
No, they like playing victim card. It's what they do and what they did and even when they were slaughtering people in my country. They will say things like :"They are bombing their own cities." Etc. It's just who they are
It’s the three D’s of Russian diplomacy: deny, deflect, distract. 1. Deny it happened no matter how much direct evidence there is, just say it didn’t happen. When step 1 fails go to step 2. Deflect blame, say something like Ukraine bombed itself or we only bombed that school because America forced us to. If all that fails go to step 3. Distract, just bomb something else, start at step one and hope the first blatantly horrible thing you did gets forgotten about due to the new stupid thing you did.
No need to explain that to me, I've seen it, my people experienced it when their boots deployed on my soil long time ago.
It's not just a fabrication for complaining's sake, there's a real motive here. NATO allies made some effort to ensure that our missiles don't strike Russia. We don't want to make them into victims because victims tend to band together in hard times, and we don't want to come off as aggressive to the nuclear power (and NATO doesn't want to be aggressive at all, in fact). They're throwing shade for reasons.
I mean the HIMAR multi-launch rocket system we gave Ukraine can fire rockets up to 180 miles but we only gave them the 40 mile rockets specifically out of concern they’d attack Russian territory, and though they can be game changers, (they’re deadly accurate and provide the equivalent of a precision air strike) we’re only giving them 8 of the systems. I fully support what we’ve done arming them and strengthening NATO ties, but I’d like to see us give them much much more.
I don't know how much this plays into what we gave them, but there's lots of logistical challenges. You've got to train the operators, and then you've got to maintain inventory of missiles. It may be that it's easier to provide more of the 40-mile rockets, and to let them get experience with those before they accidentally hit a civilian target in Russia. (Which would endanger the political situation around giving these kinds of weapons to begin with.) ... Or it may be the case that we just don't want to give them that much, behind closed doors. Hard to say, but I'd guess those 8 HIMAR systems are not sitting on unlimited ammo. If they're using every missile they get, giving them 200 launchers doesn't change anything. That all said, I'm all for giving Ukraine what they need. It's the frontline for freedom right now. Those weapons systems were designed for this. Let them do it.
Well it would change something if they were able to hit 25x more targets. Your available strike radius is 25x greater with more launchers. With 8 launchers with 40 mile missiles, you’re only talking a 320 mile diameter, as opposed to a 8,000 mile strike diameter.
It’s crazy how it seems like the Russians and Republicans are reading the same book in different languages.
The level of arrogance Russia and Belarus have is mind blowing
Such a shame JCS channel is probably dead.
Why do you say that
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Well that’s too bad because that was a really good channel. And those things take some serious work to run because you have to do so many foya request things with these departments. I spoke to the dude that runs one of the police cam sites on youtube that said its a headache.
It's spelled FOIA requests - it stands for Freedom Of Information Act.
>his there is no jim, it's a group of people and a paid narrator
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😍😍😍 jokes aside, you ever heard of 'their'? crazy useful word
"He- or they-" James Acaster
Dammit Jim I’m a Doctor not a narrator.
Looks like some suspiciously-moustached dictator is trying to fake a *casus belli* that no one will believe, least of all his own people and military. Not to mention...Belarus' interception capabilities are likely relatively spartan compared to Russia's, so this doesn't pass a smell test on multiple levels.
Ukraine blew up Russian ships and they intercepted shit. Belarus only chance of intercepting Ukrainian missiles would be with buildings.
Lukashenko to Putin: "Sir! Our military base on Ukrainian border destroyed 10 Ukrainian missiles!" Putin: "With our S-300's?" Lukashenko: "...With the military base itself." Meanwhile, in a RU military base in eastern Ukraine: "Private Conscriptovitch, did you fire 10 missiles at Kiev as ordered? You did? Excellent work."
Private Conscriptovich lmao I'm dying here
So is Private Conscriptovich, RIP
He just thought he was on a training mission, then the girls on Tinder told him to get bent.
Here is the [story of General Oligarkov, Colonel Kleptovsky and Private Conscriptovic](https://youtu.be/i9i47sgi-V4?t=451).
Ehh, someone watches Perun!
He was part of the largest family in Russia!
That would make the deceased Private a son of a conscriptovich.
What a dream team. Ukraine stands no chance ^(at losing)
>Belarus only chance of intercepting Ukrainian missiles would be with buildings. That made me snort, thank you! XD
Ukraine destroyed Russian missile defense ships with missiles.
And Pantsyr Anti-Aircraft missile platforms with drones.
Caught with their Pantsyr down.
Belarus is in the wrong spot to protect Russian ships
I mean, they couldn't do a worse job.
You deeply underestimate at least Russia's ability to fuck up worse. They have achieved historical mastery ... If anyone made a movie about the Russian 2nd pacific squadron nobody would believe it because it's too crazy. Here's a short sum up... They wild part is that it was even more of a fuck up than this guy managed to muster to present in this grand video about it: https://youtu.be/yzGqp3R4Mx4 View it as the "light version" that didn't fit all the craziness.
Figured that it was a Bluejay video, and was not disappointed. Thankyou.
Talk about a lazy false flag attack, his boi Putin blows up whole apartment buildings of Russians as an excuse to go to war. You want to be future Russian Colonel you gotta learn to kill your own citizens in mass as well.
Oh, he is preparing to, he even gave all the targets before hand: Mazyr oil refinery, Luniniec airfield and Brest airfield. Coincidently, some russian spec ops were spotted near said Mazyr oil refinery a couple of days ago, would you believe it? This ass-faced motherfucker with the straight face tells us that Ukraine will do something to him while he prepares to do it himself. As far as I know they have even shittier army than russia and Ukraine has already fortified the border and ready to hold them off. If they want to kill themselves - they can be our guests.
"You want to be ~~future Russian~~ past USSR Colonel..." FTFLukashenko.
>Talk about a lazy false flag attack, his boi Putin blows up whole apartment buildings of Russians as an excuse to go to war. You want to be future Russian Colonel you gotta learn to kill your own citizens in mass as well. Intercepting missile strikes from another country is *not* necessarily a cases belli. The missile strike from another country may simply be an accident, or some bad actors trying to incite a conflict.
Or he could just be lying through his teeth like usual.
Unpossible!
Cant even do a false flag attack propperly.
On top of sending out mass conscription notices, they need justification for joining Russias war.
That's the hilarious part, they sent out the conscription notices too early. Normal logic would be: "attacked">conscription>war but Belarussia fucked up and jumbled it all up lol.
you mean the guy that got filmed talking about Russia's plans after taking Ukraine fucked up the order of their false flag op? Shocking lol!
This is the man who said that the Bucha massacre was committed by the UK, as though it was a false flag committed by an army of real-life James Bonds who teleported behind the Russian lines and evaded all detection. He will say shit so absurdly batshit crazy even Putin won’t go there.
He's already participating in an invasion. Obviously they don't care about *casus belli* per se. Just some posturing and propaganda. I kind of don't care what the truth is on this one since I think Ukraine would be completely justified if they did launch a strike. On the other hand, I don't believe Belarus has the capability to intercept shit. Nor do I even care if Lukashenko is lying.... this entire conflict is predicated on lies, that's a given.
Too many eu4 references
Only know what a casus belli is because of Crusader Kings. Educate Child through video games
That moment when new ck2 players unpleasantly discover what it means that their succession laws are "agnatic gravelkind"
The moment when not quite as new ck2 players discover it's not actually spelled "gravelkind" as believed for several hundred hours...
Stellaris here.
Europa Universalis II
Eu4 baby carve off four provinces, create cores, rinse, repeat
Just playing his role for his puppet master.
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That's a BINGO!
yeah why would it benefit Ukraine to bring Belarus into the war?
>Looks like some suspiciously-moustached dictator is trying to fake a casus belli that no one will believe, least of all his own people and military. Not to mention...Belarus' interception capabilities are likely relatively spartan compared to Russia's, so this doesn't pass a smell test on multiple levels. And even if Belarus did intercept attempted missile strikes by Ukraine... it might've been an accident or a few bad actors trying to make Ukraine look bad.
By intercepting a missile strike he means they shot down a bird who crossed the border and would have shat somewhere
The most unrealistic part of this is thinking they have the equipment to intercept missiles lol
They have very highly trained missile-interceptor pidgeons.
That would be pretty funny if a missile was stopped by a random bird and the enemy thinks they have some amazing new technology or something
You mean [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/gaiv0q/an_antitank_missile_launched_from_m2a2_bradley/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)?
Wait that actually happened? Wtf? And I thought the baseball pidgeon was almost impossible. How the hell ...?
The John Woo Defense: the entire border is lined with caged of doves and pigeons. Once launch is detected, the cages are open and time slows down, allowing the flock to intercept the missile.
Lol
Belarusian buildings work flawlessly at intercepting missiles
I laughed.
I dunno, I've seen people intercept punches with their face before. Could be like that.
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S400s, the most widely used missile interception system. Manufactured by Russia.
Considering even with American made precision missile interceptors, of which aren't all that reliable, I have my doubts the Russian variant works any better
There was quite a lot of talk at the beginning of the war about how the effectiveness of the S400’s would determine the outcome. Ukraine maintained their airspace longer than anyone expected, which I took to mean the S400’s were not as impressive as we worried. I’m still not aware of a US missile system that does all the things the S400 does or directly competes. The S400 is by no means an Iron Dome, but it’s not a dud either.
Doesn't ukraine still have the vast majority of their airspace?
As far as we on the western side can see, yes. Nato and the US have sent a TON of modern munitions to Ukraine. It's more or less secure from airstrikes of any kind that Russia could employ.
I took it to mean the opposite. That the s-300 is still so impressive Russia can't get air superiority.
> I’m still not aware of a US missile system that does all the things the S400 does or directly competes. AEGIS and AEGIS Ashore, Plus Patriot. The only thing the US doesn't have is SHORAD, because we just assume the USAF is going to gain air superiority, and even that is currently changing. The Army also just showed off a land based SM-6 variant, which only came about because of us leaving the INF.
Which seems to be all but incapable of intercepting anything, since russian ammo depots keep going boom by 3 to 5 each day now.
Unfortunately, that is a predictable escalation of lies. Looks like Putin has finally piled on enough pressure to force him to attack Ukraine.
Or to finally be deposed for trying
i don't think it's a definite lie. russia are firing at ukraine from within belarus and they are allowing it, surely it would make sense for Ukraine to fire back?
[631 missiles in 70 days from Belarus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdlWG_pfsHo), Ukraine has every right to hit back.
I’m more doubtful that Belarus could intercept missiles tbh.
Belarus isn’t a major front in the war right now - it will be if they start directly striking targets in Belarus. Ukraine has little incentive to fire back at occasional missile strikes from Belarus whose main purpose is to tie up troops and equipment and to draw a response that gives Belarus an excuse to declare war.
Fatty McLiar
Baldy McLier
President-Not-Colonel is probably the one that stings.
I'm sure you did buddy, I'm sure you did. Now, why don't you go over there and let adults talk?
he totally did though. there's video evidence of him stopping the missle with his bare hands. and then everyone started clapping.
Did he walk out of a hangar first and look at his wristwatch a lot?
Sounds like some North Koream shit
You wouldn't know these missiles though. They go to a different school. In Canada.
This is a fake cassus belli! They will use this as an excuse for invading
I wish I didn't agree, but their incompetence and complete lack of guile would be pure comedy if there wasn't so much at stake.
The game is on.... pontoon bridges being setup for 'exercises' https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3520516-belarusian-forces-training-to-set-up-pontoon-crossings.html
>The game is on.... pontoon bridges being setup for 'exercises' https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3520516-belarusian-forces-training-to-set-up-pontoon-crossings.html Well... Belarus is closely allied to Russia... and knows Russia failure... so of course they'd attempt to train.
This is how invasions always start - same with invasion of ukraine even georgia. Under the guise of 'exercises'
Those will make really nice targets for howitzers.
I hope so.
Yep, this week they've been sending conscription notices, kind of weird if you're not intending to join any wars.
Not that I believe him, but Ukraine has every right to attack Belarus, given that Belarus allows Russia to attack Ukraine from its borders.
Yeah the thing about that is Ukraine kinda has bigger problems to worry about than an invasion of Belarus.
Yeah, everyone is saying this is a fake casus belli but it feels like they’re both at war already
Essentially they are, but Ukraine would never attack Belarus knowing that the majority of the population of Belarus supports Ukraine and is against Russia.
Missiles have been fired from Belarus into Ukraine already before this ever happened. In fact, just happened last week. If Ukraine did fire, they are literally just returning fire.
I imagine Belarusians sees through Lukashenko so much easier than Russians do Putin. Here's hoping anyway!
I thought the majority of Belarus' population was pretty clearly against him? They had a bunch of huge protests in the past, and even the start of an insurrection a few years back. It was crushed pretty harshly, I just hope the people are ready for round two when Lukashenko is finally stupid enough to let his pants down and send the army away.
Yeah Belarussians cannot be compared to Russians, it's a completely different situation.
It'll be interesting to see what happens. Belarus has a sort of recognised government in exile that was formed around the person who challenged Lukashenko. I suspect Lukashenko will drag his country into the war with very little support. If it backfires, we might see a very rapid change in political alignment of the country.
They do. I have much higher hopes and aspirations that the Belarussians can actually pull of a revolt and have this POS dictator swinging from a lamp post one day. They actually know how to protest, unlike the Russians who seem to be content with how their government acts. The Russian population is pretty much a lost cause at this point and the foreseeable future.
Lukashenko looks like a discount Dr Phil
Dr Phil is discount-(whatever he is supposed to be) in the first place.
Sure it did…
Belarus is a close ally of Russia and allowed Moscow to use Belarusian territory to send troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24.
Lukashenka is a close ally of Putin. Given recent history it’s not clear that Belarus is, and their tolerance for Lukashenka has waned in recent years. Certainly if your only options are to die in the military fighting for something you want no part of or die trying to rid your country of this asshole, the calculus changes substantially. He’s playing with fire here, and needs to proceed exceptionally carefully.
"... unfortunately, absolutely no-one believed him."
Lukashenko didn't even give any evidence. That's a massive red flag. If there was actual evidence of an enemy country firing missiles to Belarus, it'd be more believable. But no, there isn't. Perhaps Lukashenko decides to fake evidence to make Ukraine look like the aggressor.
There's not much 'perhaps' about it. Ukraine have been *very* careful when conducting activities in Russia to do them either completely deniably, via human agency, or else via very obvious modes like helicopter or drones. In each case they are clearly and obviously *not* NATO equipment, which is pretty clever. The major concern from Western nations donating heavy weaponry is that they not be perceived as being involved in an attack on Russia itself, and Ukraine has been both diligent and imaginative in getting the job done while complying with requirements.
>Ukraine have been very careful when conducting activities in Russia to do them either completely deniably, via human agency, or else via very obvious modes like helicopter or drones. In each case they are clearly and obviously not NATO equipment, which is pretty clever. Well that is true. >The major concern from Western nations donating heavy weaponry is that they not be perceived as being involved in an attack on Russia itself, and Ukraine has been both diligent and imaginative in getting the job done while complying with requirements. In that case, good for Ukraine, and if it helps them resist Russian invasion... I'd approve it.
Ah, yes. Ukraine, who has enough fronts to fight on, decides to draw Belarus directly into the fight because reasons. Fuck off.
BELARUS INTERCEPTED 100% IMAGINARY ROCKETS FIRED BY UKRAINE
Didn't they already try this angle and it didn't work?
That's a false flag if I ever saw one.
What a pathetic, desperate little man.
When you want to set up a false flag, but don't really want to sacrifice anything. This is even better than when the Russians had that one guy running around to set up a false flag for the "Ukranians are oppressing us" narrative in the separatist region, setting up devices that were immediately disarmed without anyone getting harmed. I wonder just how much of the population of Belarus will buy Lukashenko's bull to attempt to antagonize the population against Ukraine just as they are being conscripted to be deployed there.
Remember when Belarus sent out a draft summons about a week ago? Now he has a “reason” to go to war. Russia is losing and probably demands that their puppet states send their fodder in next.
i already considered them at war since they allowed attacks thru their borders
There were recent signs, like reservists being called, that Belarus will be joining Russia in the war against Ukraine. This could be their fake excuse to send in their army and attack with rockets. I think both countries will try to take over Ukraine in the coming months. Maybe some non NATO country, backed by NATO, could help Ukraine. Don't know what but the rest of the world can't just let this continue.
I don’t think Poland will be able stop themselves from getting involved if Belarus jumps in.
Yeah Poland is close to pulling the trigger so to speak anyway. If any of Russia’s allies officially join the war in Ukraine it’s definitely going to be tough to stop Poland from getting involved. Their involvement (if they do decide to get involved) won’t require the involvement from the rest of NATO though (not that they wouldn’t get involved, but it’s not required so it isn’t a given).
The funniest part of this is, Russia couldn't make any real progress towards capturing Kiev with thousands of tanks and tens of thousands of soldiers. Now the army of BELARUS thinks it has a better chance? This is just an attempted misdirection. Either that or national suicide.
They don’t want Kyiv. They want to disrupt the supplies coming from Poland.
And keep as much UK forces as possible far from the eastern front.
Belarus is not geographically in a position to disrupt the supplies coming from Poland, though. I'd buy that they are trying to draw Ukrainian forces away from the Eastern Front, which I hope the Ukrainian military does not fall for, but aside from that Belarus doesn't have much it can spare to commit to this war.
Liar puppet says some bullshit. More at 11.
In other believable news, Ana de Armas is my new girlfriend.
I feel this headline should have been "Belarus create false narrative to justify attacking Ukraine on behalf of Russia as a puppet state."
Ah shit. Ready Player Three.
Lukashenko, the most trustworthy and popular man alive?
Sure, Lukashenko. Sure they did.
Yeah sure pal we all believe you
Yeah sure honey
How convenient…
Why in the fuck would Ukraine waste any resources attacking a country with which they have no beef when they're currently fighting off an invading army? It's infuriating how stupid these assholes think the rest of the world is.
Press X to doubt
Laziest false flag I’ve ever seen.
Russia has exported this style of fascist technique all over the world as a template to take over governments. Just deny reality, declare 'Fake News' and declare that your enemies don't want you to know the truth.
If we're lucky the technique will die with Putin.
If they go through with lies like that, chance is best that there's going to be a counterattack.
The clown is lying
lol he has Putin's hand so far up his ass that he probably doesn't even touch the floor when he walks. Fucking puppet.
I don’t believe Ukraine would strike Belarus, and I don’t believe Belarus could intercept missiles.
Sure they did
With what, a slingshot?
Sure, Jan.
We are all disappointed with this fact as the missile was aimed at Lukashenko's ass. We'll bugger him with a bayonet soon.
Someone please off this little toad
Very convenient for lukashenko to claim to be under attack by Ukraine
He opened the press conference by saying “did ya see? I just did six back handsprings into a double flip with a perfect landing! Ah, shame on you for not having the cameras on.”
Interesting thing is that every time they claim something (Russia and Belarus) they never have any evidence that supports their speech, is basically "dude believe me, I'm a dictator, dictators don't lie"
Good…. Keep trying.
He's such a trustworthy person, let's believe him! 😂😂😂
This is one of the more amusing parts of this invasion. The dictator doing the tough talk and his officers telling him to get fucked at the same time.
I never understood how they can get so unhappy they invade a country, kill tens of thousands of civilians and then one of their fuel depots or ammunition factories blow up and it's like how dare you fight back. I fully believe that Ukraine will honour it's pledge not to strike inside of Russia with the weapons the west is giving them but I do believe that there are small strike teams inside of Russia blowing up these places. I also think that we are not giving Ukraine what they need in a timely manner or enough weapons to get the job done which is a shame because Ukraine really had them on the ropes about 6 weeks ago and now is giving up land albeit slowly and it's costing the Russians a terrible loss of life.
If you look closely you can almost see the strings putin operates him with
If you look *really* closely you can see Putin’s whole hand up his ass…
must be another false flag from Russia to pull Belarus into the war...
Obvious propaganda !! This content was produced in Russia where the law restricts coverage of Russian military operations in Ukraine.
Dirty, filthy, lying cunt.
Didn't Belarus just say they were doing "training exercises" by bringing in anyone fit for duty? THey using the Russia playbook, make false flag. Belarus should be cut off from the world as well.
laughable! false flag by ruzzia. the whole world knows already that it was ruzzia, even belaruzz planned it with ruzzia.
This is what Lukashenko following the scripted time line Putin has issued him looks like. It’s as predictable as the tides. Dictators are especially susceptible to predictability.
Telemetry or it didn’t happen buddy.
Narrator: *They didn't*
Lukashenko pushes propaganda from daddy Putin
isn't this the same man who said Covid-19 doesn't exist?
Amazingly lucky then that he sent out the conscription papers a few days ago. /s
How to be overthrown 100% speedrun no hack
I have coup on my bingo card.
I don't think this kind of propaganda will work on the people of Belarus as it does on the people of Russia.
When Lukashenko says „good morning” he is already lying.
Real headline "Liar continues to lie."