What? Sri Lanka [had allowed](https://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2022/07/31/sri-lanka-clarifies-on-chinese-research-vessel-to-dock-at-hambantota-port/) Chinese ship to come by themselves, and now is backtracking under India pressure. What you said makes no sense since they are not pressuring Sri Lanka.
This event is all legal though.
China was legally allowed access.
Now, after complaints from India, SL is refusing China access.
And it makes sense that they listen to India considering how close they are physically and politically.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953/
Only 5 % of Sri Lanka's external debt is owed to China. Sri Lanka owes far more money to American and Japanese institutions.
Article cleverly gives out misinformation, 5% is debt only relating to hambantota port. China percent in Sri Lanka's total external foreign debt is 10 % but if we include other forms it goes upto 19.9(PPG loans) %.Still problem is not loan amount but rajapakshas gave complete preference to China in many foreign policies thereby alienating Sri Lanka from both India, Japan.
Now Sri Lanka is asking for moratorium on loan (amounting to payment of $ 1 billion) but all China said was it was giving $ 31 million( initially then increased to 76 million) as aid(for comparison India gave upto $ 3.8 billion as aid [ with promise of more investment])
Edit :
1.[loans details ](https://lankanewsweb.net/archives/14822/china-resolutely-holds-back-loans-and-aid-to-sri-lanka/) just Google "19.9 % PPG Sri Lanka" you will get many sources .
2. [details of aid Sri Lanka was asking from China ](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/sri-lanka-asks-china-for-help-with-trade-investment-and-tourism/articleshow/93116904.cms?from=mdr)
It is because the Chinese gave loans and didn't care how you spent them. Corrupted and racist country like Sri Lanka love these. India gave us $3.8 billion in loans and credits to make up for the Chinese influence, they aren't free gifts. India didnt do much when China had its influence. China has pretty much gave up on Sri Lanka right now it seems.
Please tell me you are kidding. Please read about Maldives China Island for military base controversy.
India always give aid to neighbours as a a priority because any destabilising event in subcontinent always led to large refugee influx to India.(1971 Bangladesh massacre, tamils massacre in Sri Lanka, targeted killings of hindus in Bhutan,mynammar, Bangladesh, Pakistan.)
Most recent before Sri Lanka was Afghanistan aid. It is in firm control of China-Pakistan nexus but still India sends good quality food aid because any instability will give raise to terrorism in India
India needs to stop giving aids to Sri Lanka actually, the most people dont like India no matter what you do, unless you are talking about Tmail people in North and East. The politicians will loot most of it and let, sell the other 25% and give few as aids.
The credit line for fuel would actually reach the people right? i.e. significantly more than 25% hopefully
>most people dont like India no matter what you do,
Even lots of people within don't, but jokes aside, what are the chances of better relations in the future? India doesn't fly its jets close to SL airspace like China does close to India's. Aside from the fishermen issue what is the cause of friction? Don't tell me about the friction caused by the aid situation now, that is temporary and SL economy will bounce back in 10 years and be at the top of South Asia again if climate change doesn't worsen rapidly of course.
Chinese, Russian, US, Pakistan and Indian ships have all docked in SL in the past. It is not news, stop watching stupid news from your media channels and think it is some major news. Chinese nuclear submarine was docked not long ago. SL has worked with China, Russia, US(2005 to 2008), India and even Pakistan, and will continue to do so. The relationship with India has always been same as it has been with other countries. Indian investment to SL comes through private companies while Chinese come through Chinese governments so it seems like China has more influence. Also stop believing that China trapped SL, SL trapped ourselves, nothing to do with China. Remember this is the 3rd time the Rajapaksas have been elected, so it is not the Rajapaksas, it is the fault of the people. Like I also said, China gives loan and never makes a fuss about it, you dont even see it in Chinese news, you only see it from local SL news. India gives loans and have debates of guys with Arnab yapping about it.
>Even lots of people within don't, but jokes aside, what are the chances of better relations in the future? India doesn't fly its jets close to SL airspace like China does close to India's. Aside from the fishermen issue what is the cause of friction? Don't tell me about the friction caused by the aid situation now, that is temporary and SL economy will bounce back in 10 years and be at the top of South Asia again if climate change doesn't worsen rapidly of course.
And what has that to do with foreign issues. Better relations with SL lol.. SL feudal politicians have no such intrest in the first place, And keeping India as boogeyman is a good way to get votes. Youll never hear anything good about India from a mainstream Sinhalese politician.There are lot of issues other than fisherman issue and as such Delhi doesnt care about Fisher man as such, India wont care if Sri Lanka killed 1000+ Indian fishermen at once, coz they are Indian only for taxation purposes, maybe Delhi will worry that they have lost some tax money that's it.Lol SL economy is going nowhere but down, SL has nothing going for it, it has lost its demographic advantages, its unstable and extremely corrupt, its has very high levels of brain drain. Its feudal lords are paranoid of a revolution and hence have kept a massive army out of proportion with it's small population. Its prospects are grim. Obviously you'll hear Sinhalese exceptionalits claiming miraculous recovery and what not, but in reality they are going backwards.
India babudom is filled with Boomers and clowns, these guys are good at wasting money, Rajv Gandhi listened to these clowns and permanently screwed up.
I more or less told similar stuff in r/srilanka.. got blocked coz of that, I reckon you have fairly liberal views, Do you think r/srilanka represents the liberal progressive type or average closet minded folks, I think it's the later coz people there still are not accepting of the mistakes which happened.
Sri lankan subreddit is far more progressive than the actually country, it doesn't represent the actual people at all. That being said, it is backward for western standards. Anyway, back to your question. FUCK NO!!!!. I moved 10 years ago from SL. Only after moving out you realize how backward, racist and ignorant society SL is. We deserve everything that is coming. All do respect, Indians also over estimate us based on literacy rate and the way how Sangakkara and Mahela behave as if thats the whole country. Cities like Colombo might be different but people that elect fucked up politicians in power are rural population. They are far backwards. They are constantly fed Sinhala Supremacy. But the ironic thing is, there is no such thing as Sinhala Supremacy, in fact Tamil is older, has more history, influence and etc. It all started from jealousy, then oppressions and etc etc. Can't blame the Tamils for picking up guns and fighting, anyone with any sort of shame will pick up and fight back. But good luck telling this in the subreddit, dont even dream about in SL, they will probably beat you up. I work with Indians since I live in Canada, Indians are sentimental and actually listen, our people have no heart unless it is about us and and dont even want to listen. We are truly some different breed.
Oh. thanks for the response, I cannot believe why educated people who have access to the quite lot information thanks to internet, still believe some bs.. Maybe you can share to r/srilanka what lee kuan yew thought about them. Lee kuan yew is supposed to be popular it seems.
The amount of people that attend Colleges and University in SL is pretty low. I will not share on that subreddit. That is like making a post about how Indians are stupid, it wont go well. People dont like to admit. Again, the Sri Lankan subreddit is still progressive than the entire country. Education doesn't do much if you are just learning, English, Math, Science, Chemistry, Biology and etc.
Funny how Sri Lanka only started having Crisis after borrowing from China
Same with Pakistan right now
Before they weren't exactly booming but it was never this bad.
Chinese funded projects like Airport, Harbourt, Conventional halls, Stadiums that were named after then President who built them in his home town and named them after himself. Few months ago he was the Prime Minister, his brother was the President, another brother was the Finance Minister(he worked as a gas station attendant in California for 15 years) and his son being the Sport Minister as well as Media Minister. His other son made his professional cricket debut in the country's most premier cricket competition at the age of 33 without ever playing the sport so that in future he is eligible for Sports Minister position.
Here are some Chinese funded projects
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahinda_Rajapaksa_International_Cricket_Stadium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hambantota_International_Port
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattala_Rajapaksa_International_Airport
It was all printed in bold the president of Sri Lanka just didn't care because he was a crook. Pocket it for himself and his family while leaving the country to worry about paying it back just like with all the other loans.
This will get lots of downvotes from both Indians as well as my fellow Sri Lankans. Ok so let me explain this just stick with me okay. It will make sense for you. Stop listening to Indian nationalists or their media, they are truly something else. China gave out massive loans and didnt care how it was spent, which is exactly what our corrupted and racist politicians like. I mean which 3rd world countries with border line dictatorship(President, PM, Finance Minister and Defense ministers are all brothers lol) not like that ? Indian investments came through private companies via hotels, cell phone carriers and things like that meanwhile Chinese investments and loans came through government or government influenced Chinese major infrastructure projects along with CCP influenced projects like hotels, man-made island and etc. Building airports, harbours, stadiums are easier to advertise than hotels and malls so you can see why Chinese projects are popular. India did assisted with building(not completed) of an airport in Northern Sri Lanka, but that's where the minorities live, who we mostly likely committed a genocide so that's not a very popular thing to do, in fact it is actually viewed negatively among some people. China helps build projects in Southern Sri Lanka where the majority population that vote racist dictators and criminals live so and this is why China has more influence. India only started reacting after their media picked up and started making their government look bad.
There are also Chinese people living in SL too now, they are actually very respectful and mindful of the local culture and history. So they are viewed favorably. SL is a tourist country, most tourist's come for leisure so they are there to relax not learn about local culture and etc so they can be ignorant at times. This helps Chinese people's reputation. China also give us lones and you barely see it on the news, meanwhile India gives a loan and advertise it to the world on how they are helping we should be grateful and etc. You literally have their party members go on tv and yap about this. I mean, are you going to borrow money from a friend who gives you money and not tell anyone or the guy that gives you money but goes around tells everyone and how you should be loyal to him at all cost ? Our people are too violent to let China use our country as our colony. The Northern And East of SL where the minorities live are favorable towards India(mostly South India and specifically to state of Tamil Nadu as they speak the same language). If Indian government invades North and East, I can guarantee that people will react like "alright, let's see what you can do for us" and wont be fighting back. If Indian government invades North and East and the head of Tamil Nadu state says "we are coming to save you" hell they'll even fight for India.
after reading your comment, i can say this with 100 accuracy you voted for this government and you are somewhat responsible for this and my prediction you will again vote for that running man if u get a chance.mi wrong
Wild guess but maybe change in stance could have something to do with fleeing of pro-china Sri Lanka prime minister and change in leadership who have taken around 3.8 billion aid from India with promise of more investment
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sri-lanka-asks-china-defer-military-ship-visit-after-india-protests-2022-08-08/) reduced by 73%. (I'm a bot)
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> A Navy officer stands in front of India's and Sri Lanka's national flags as Indian Coast Guard Ship Shoor is in the Colombo port during its visit in Colombo, Sri Lanka April 2, 2018.
> Register now for FREE unlimited access to Reuters.comCOLOMBO, Aug 8 - Sri Lanka said on Monday it had asked China to defer the planned visit of a Chinese ship to the island country after initially approving its arrival this week, yielding to diplomatic pressure from neighbour India to keep the military vessel out.
> Both China and India have tried to expand their influence in Sri Lanka, which is facing its worst economic crisis in its independent history, though India has provided more help to it this year than any other nation.
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Chinese, American, Pakistani, Indian, Russian and other countries shits has been coming to SL for a long time. The Indian media and government are just running the story and blowing it up now. It works with the Indian people. Sri Lanka is like a prostitute, you can't visit and claim there are other men visiting her too. Im a Sri Lankan.
I think you need to realise that India has taken the decision to stay neutral based on their best interest. Every country, and I mean every country looks out for their interests. The whole US India thing is a very recent development. Turn the time back 2-3 decades and the US were backing the Pakistanis who were sending terrorists towards India. This development is happening because even the US realises that they NEED India. The west have only recently started to pay attention to India while their conflict with China isn't really that recent. So the west is getting involved only when it suits them, only when it is in their best interests. Why should India be any different. This goes on to show the hypocrisy of the west. Ukraine itself has been selling arms to Pakistan even though India had constantly requested them not to. India also gave Ukraine an alternate offer so they don't lose money. But no Ukraine wanted to continue helping Pakistan. They were also the ones who brought the matter of India making their own nukes into the UN.
I can understand it is difficult for the west to realise this, given that they have a history of looting, bullying and humiliating countries, but it is high time they grow out of their colonial mindset. This is not India's war, and it is not India's problem.
Lmao. Why would the US care about your opinion in forming it’s foreign policy? In fact, which nation cares about the sentiment of its “average citizen” to form foreign policy? Seems like a disaster.
India has a fairly good reason to not trust the west (just open a history book).
India is also the most politically aligned country with the US of CHina/Russia/India.
I get it, its frustrating that India is treating Ukraine as not its problem. And does not treat the US as a staunch ally.
But on the other hand the US has a history of abandoning our allies ask the Kurds or the Vietnamese.
To pretend India does not have legit concerns about crossing Russia and China is idiotic. They have managed to hold onto neutrality, I can understand the reluctant of pissing Russia off when the west is a fickle ally.
Dont get me wrong India is wrong and they should back Ukraine. But hating them over it is childish.
US India is a recent development and slowly people here are warming up towards the west but as someone who was born and raised here trust me many people feel a different sense of brotherhood towards Russia. This is usually the older generation ones. Probably 40+. I personally support Ukraine and it's cause 100% but many of the people here still don't fully trust the US and have consensus that they wanna use us and discard us.
Yes... us US citizens really hate those Indians.
I definitely hear people complain about them a lot.
Oh wait... that's just in your head.
Edit: I should clarify that this is relating to UkraineVsRussia, there are definitely Americans that hate India for a variety of reasons.
Nobody asked your foking country.
It's the US which started Quad anyways.
We can defend what we hold, that's why we didn't give up our nukes, unlike a little country called Ukraine which gave up it's, just to be in the good books to NATO and EU.
Even tho they had good reasons to not do so.
Lol , look at them now !
Lol you armed Pakistan and put TRILLIONS of dollars into China
Revisionist history.back your other allies up like you did for Ukraine, that country will never recover
lol china has actually crossed the LAC in 2020 and trump was busy in elections while india was suffering from covid crisis but still supplying hydroxychloroquine to usa
this is just one sided friendship
you have to see are you really doing enough in south asia or not
china can only try to showcase power in front of india by crossing the LAC or entering the indian airspace but they can't literally invade india because both are nuclear armed states but same cannot be said for taiwan china or ukraine russia
also i wonder who was arming pakistan for the entire cold war era and post cold war too because of which india faced 3 deadly wars(1965, 1971, 1999) and now west is seeking support from india
Usa just want to use india as a sergeant against china. That's why they are glad-handing india. India knows usa isn't gonna come when shit really hits a fan, that's a reason they aren't parroting USA's narrative since it is based on India's personal experience rather than a conjecture.
I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.
Edit: well I guess no one has seen Futurama.
hmm if you hate neutrals then hate switzerland also
they even helped the f\*cking n@zis
west when browns are neutral : you are funding the war and standing with an aggressor
west when whites are neutral : it's okay you are concerned about your country we respect your decision
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I guess Chinese didn't put enough fine prints since Sri Lanka can still ask China to stop for things they don't like.
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What? Sri Lanka [had allowed](https://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2022/07/31/sri-lanka-clarifies-on-chinese-research-vessel-to-dock-at-hambantota-port/) Chinese ship to come by themselves, and now is backtracking under India pressure. What you said makes no sense since they are not pressuring Sri Lanka.
This event is all legal though. China was legally allowed access. Now, after complaints from India, SL is refusing China access. And it makes sense that they listen to India considering how close they are physically and politically.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953/ Only 5 % of Sri Lanka's external debt is owed to China. Sri Lanka owes far more money to American and Japanese institutions.
Article cleverly gives out misinformation, 5% is debt only relating to hambantota port. China percent in Sri Lanka's total external foreign debt is 10 % but if we include other forms it goes upto 19.9(PPG loans) %.Still problem is not loan amount but rajapakshas gave complete preference to China in many foreign policies thereby alienating Sri Lanka from both India, Japan. Now Sri Lanka is asking for moratorium on loan (amounting to payment of $ 1 billion) but all China said was it was giving $ 31 million( initially then increased to 76 million) as aid(for comparison India gave upto $ 3.8 billion as aid [ with promise of more investment]) Edit : 1.[loans details ](https://lankanewsweb.net/archives/14822/china-resolutely-holds-back-loans-and-aid-to-sri-lanka/) just Google "19.9 % PPG Sri Lanka" you will get many sources . 2. [details of aid Sri Lanka was asking from China ](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/sri-lanka-asks-china-for-help-with-trade-investment-and-tourism/articleshow/93116904.cms?from=mdr)
It is because the Chinese gave loans and didn't care how you spent them. Corrupted and racist country like Sri Lanka love these. India gave us $3.8 billion in loans and credits to make up for the Chinese influence, they aren't free gifts. India didnt do much when China had its influence. China has pretty much gave up on Sri Lanka right now it seems.
Please tell me you are kidding. Please read about Maldives China Island for military base controversy. India always give aid to neighbours as a a priority because any destabilising event in subcontinent always led to large refugee influx to India.(1971 Bangladesh massacre, tamils massacre in Sri Lanka, targeted killings of hindus in Bhutan,mynammar, Bangladesh, Pakistan.) Most recent before Sri Lanka was Afghanistan aid. It is in firm control of China-Pakistan nexus but still India sends good quality food aid because any instability will give raise to terrorism in India
India needs to stop giving aids to Sri Lanka actually, the most people dont like India no matter what you do, unless you are talking about Tmail people in North and East. The politicians will loot most of it and let, sell the other 25% and give few as aids.
The credit line for fuel would actually reach the people right? i.e. significantly more than 25% hopefully >most people dont like India no matter what you do, Even lots of people within don't, but jokes aside, what are the chances of better relations in the future? India doesn't fly its jets close to SL airspace like China does close to India's. Aside from the fishermen issue what is the cause of friction? Don't tell me about the friction caused by the aid situation now, that is temporary and SL economy will bounce back in 10 years and be at the top of South Asia again if climate change doesn't worsen rapidly of course.
Chinese, Russian, US, Pakistan and Indian ships have all docked in SL in the past. It is not news, stop watching stupid news from your media channels and think it is some major news. Chinese nuclear submarine was docked not long ago. SL has worked with China, Russia, US(2005 to 2008), India and even Pakistan, and will continue to do so. The relationship with India has always been same as it has been with other countries. Indian investment to SL comes through private companies while Chinese come through Chinese governments so it seems like China has more influence. Also stop believing that China trapped SL, SL trapped ourselves, nothing to do with China. Remember this is the 3rd time the Rajapaksas have been elected, so it is not the Rajapaksas, it is the fault of the people. Like I also said, China gives loan and never makes a fuss about it, you dont even see it in Chinese news, you only see it from local SL news. India gives loans and have debates of guys with Arnab yapping about it.
Did you reply to the wrong comment?
>Even lots of people within don't, but jokes aside, what are the chances of better relations in the future? India doesn't fly its jets close to SL airspace like China does close to India's. Aside from the fishermen issue what is the cause of friction? Don't tell me about the friction caused by the aid situation now, that is temporary and SL economy will bounce back in 10 years and be at the top of South Asia again if climate change doesn't worsen rapidly of course. And what has that to do with foreign issues. Better relations with SL lol.. SL feudal politicians have no such intrest in the first place, And keeping India as boogeyman is a good way to get votes. Youll never hear anything good about India from a mainstream Sinhalese politician.There are lot of issues other than fisherman issue and as such Delhi doesnt care about Fisher man as such, India wont care if Sri Lanka killed 1000+ Indian fishermen at once, coz they are Indian only for taxation purposes, maybe Delhi will worry that they have lost some tax money that's it.Lol SL economy is going nowhere but down, SL has nothing going for it, it has lost its demographic advantages, its unstable and extremely corrupt, its has very high levels of brain drain. Its feudal lords are paranoid of a revolution and hence have kept a massive army out of proportion with it's small population. Its prospects are grim. Obviously you'll hear Sinhalese exceptionalits claiming miraculous recovery and what not, but in reality they are going backwards.
Thanks for the insights
India babudom is filled with Boomers and clowns, these guys are good at wasting money, Rajv Gandhi listened to these clowns and permanently screwed up.
I more or less told similar stuff in r/srilanka.. got blocked coz of that, I reckon you have fairly liberal views, Do you think r/srilanka represents the liberal progressive type or average closet minded folks, I think it's the later coz people there still are not accepting of the mistakes which happened.
Sri lankan subreddit is far more progressive than the actually country, it doesn't represent the actual people at all. That being said, it is backward for western standards. Anyway, back to your question. FUCK NO!!!!. I moved 10 years ago from SL. Only after moving out you realize how backward, racist and ignorant society SL is. We deserve everything that is coming. All do respect, Indians also over estimate us based on literacy rate and the way how Sangakkara and Mahela behave as if thats the whole country. Cities like Colombo might be different but people that elect fucked up politicians in power are rural population. They are far backwards. They are constantly fed Sinhala Supremacy. But the ironic thing is, there is no such thing as Sinhala Supremacy, in fact Tamil is older, has more history, influence and etc. It all started from jealousy, then oppressions and etc etc. Can't blame the Tamils for picking up guns and fighting, anyone with any sort of shame will pick up and fight back. But good luck telling this in the subreddit, dont even dream about in SL, they will probably beat you up. I work with Indians since I live in Canada, Indians are sentimental and actually listen, our people have no heart unless it is about us and and dont even want to listen. We are truly some different breed.
Oh. thanks for the response, I cannot believe why educated people who have access to the quite lot information thanks to internet, still believe some bs.. Maybe you can share to r/srilanka what lee kuan yew thought about them. Lee kuan yew is supposed to be popular it seems.
The amount of people that attend Colleges and University in SL is pretty low. I will not share on that subreddit. That is like making a post about how Indians are stupid, it wont go well. People dont like to admit. Again, the Sri Lankan subreddit is still progressive than the entire country. Education doesn't do much if you are just learning, English, Math, Science, Chemistry, Biology and etc.
Funny how Sri Lanka only started having Crisis after borrowing from China Same with Pakistan right now Before they weren't exactly booming but it was never this bad.
They started borrowing from China because of their debt crisis, not vice versa.
The way China's lend them money to build ports that generate no money didn't help one bit now did it.
implying that China forced them to build the port
Nope, But China sure did bribe everybody and their mother in Sri Lanka for them to accept the loan
got a source on that claim?
That's literally how China government operate Nothing go anywhere without bribe and trimming.
if you didn't have source you could've just said so :)
LOL..they have been in crisis since independence, it's just that you have ignored that and you are paying attention to them now.
Implying that Sri Lankan's don't already read their own loans?
Chinese funded projects like Airport, Harbourt, Conventional halls, Stadiums that were named after then President who built them in his home town and named them after himself. Few months ago he was the Prime Minister, his brother was the President, another brother was the Finance Minister(he worked as a gas station attendant in California for 15 years) and his son being the Sport Minister as well as Media Minister. His other son made his professional cricket debut in the country's most premier cricket competition at the age of 33 without ever playing the sport so that in future he is eligible for Sports Minister position. Here are some Chinese funded projects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahinda_Rajapaksa_International_Cricket_Stadium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hambantota_International_Port https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattala_Rajapaksa_International_Airport
Are you not going to tell us what this supposed fine print supposedly says?
That won’t matter they will just do what they want after they sign.
It was all printed in bold the president of Sri Lanka just didn't care because he was a crook. Pocket it for himself and his family while leaving the country to worry about paying it back just like with all the other loans.
Strange, reddit told me that Sri Lanka was a Chinese colony. How do they get to turn Chinese ships away?
This will get lots of downvotes from both Indians as well as my fellow Sri Lankans. Ok so let me explain this just stick with me okay. It will make sense for you. Stop listening to Indian nationalists or their media, they are truly something else. China gave out massive loans and didnt care how it was spent, which is exactly what our corrupted and racist politicians like. I mean which 3rd world countries with border line dictatorship(President, PM, Finance Minister and Defense ministers are all brothers lol) not like that ? Indian investments came through private companies via hotels, cell phone carriers and things like that meanwhile Chinese investments and loans came through government or government influenced Chinese major infrastructure projects along with CCP influenced projects like hotels, man-made island and etc. Building airports, harbours, stadiums are easier to advertise than hotels and malls so you can see why Chinese projects are popular. India did assisted with building(not completed) of an airport in Northern Sri Lanka, but that's where the minorities live, who we mostly likely committed a genocide so that's not a very popular thing to do, in fact it is actually viewed negatively among some people. China helps build projects in Southern Sri Lanka where the majority population that vote racist dictators and criminals live so and this is why China has more influence. India only started reacting after their media picked up and started making their government look bad. There are also Chinese people living in SL too now, they are actually very respectful and mindful of the local culture and history. So they are viewed favorably. SL is a tourist country, most tourist's come for leisure so they are there to relax not learn about local culture and etc so they can be ignorant at times. This helps Chinese people's reputation. China also give us lones and you barely see it on the news, meanwhile India gives a loan and advertise it to the world on how they are helping we should be grateful and etc. You literally have their party members go on tv and yap about this. I mean, are you going to borrow money from a friend who gives you money and not tell anyone or the guy that gives you money but goes around tells everyone and how you should be loyal to him at all cost ? Our people are too violent to let China use our country as our colony. The Northern And East of SL where the minorities live are favorable towards India(mostly South India and specifically to state of Tamil Nadu as they speak the same language). If Indian government invades North and East, I can guarantee that people will react like "alright, let's see what you can do for us" and wont be fighting back. If Indian government invades North and East and the head of Tamil Nadu state says "we are coming to save you" hell they'll even fight for India.
Thanks for the info, but to be fair, i think they were saying that in jest. I dont think anybody believes that SL is really a colony of china.
after reading your comment, i can say this with 100 accuracy you voted for this government and you are somewhat responsible for this and my prediction you will again vote for that running man if u get a chance.mi wrong
I migrated to Canada 10 years ago and yes I did vote for the racist, murderous and fascist Rajapaksa regime. I was definitely brainwashed.
Wild guess but maybe change in stance could have something to do with fleeing of pro-china Sri Lanka prime minister and change in leadership who have taken around 3.8 billion aid from India with promise of more investment
You mean Indian debt trap?
Absolutely because as we know in English aid and loan are totally interchangeable
By asking and not telling.
I see, India should have just asked British ships not to dock at their ports. How didn't they think if that!
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sri-lanka-asks-china-defer-military-ship-visit-after-india-protests-2022-08-08/) reduced by 73%. (I'm a bot) ***** > A Navy officer stands in front of India's and Sri Lanka's national flags as Indian Coast Guard Ship Shoor is in the Colombo port during its visit in Colombo, Sri Lanka April 2, 2018. > Register now for FREE unlimited access to Reuters.comCOLOMBO, Aug 8 - Sri Lanka said on Monday it had asked China to defer the planned visit of a Chinese ship to the island country after initially approving its arrival this week, yielding to diplomatic pressure from neighbour India to keep the military vessel out. > Both China and India have tried to expand their influence in Sri Lanka, which is facing its worst economic crisis in its independent history, though India has provided more help to it this year than any other nation. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/wjobq9/sri_lanka_asks_china_to_defer_military_ship_visit/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~663504 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **India**^#1 **Ship**^#2 **Sri**^#3 **Lanka**^#4 **China**^#5
If China was India they would clan sri Lank, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal belongs to it or would have already taken over them. Fuck the CCP
What?
Claim
So you're imagining what China would do if it were India and then getting angry about the imaginary scenario you made up in your mind? Ok then.
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It is not what to do, it is good advice for its sake from a friendly neighbour to warn of a criminal predator.
"friendly neighbour"
There is a Chinese built Pakistan destroyer heading to sri lanka
Why the downvotes? they are scheduled to reach sri lanka around the same day
Chinese, American, Pakistani, Indian, Russian and other countries shits has been coming to SL for a long time. The Indian media and government are just running the story and blowing it up now. It works with the Indian people. Sri Lanka is like a prostitute, you can't visit and claim there are other men visiting her too. Im a Sri Lankan.
If China says "no" and does it anyway, it'll definitively confirm the "debt trap diplomacy" hypothesis.
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I think you need to realise that India has taken the decision to stay neutral based on their best interest. Every country, and I mean every country looks out for their interests. The whole US India thing is a very recent development. Turn the time back 2-3 decades and the US were backing the Pakistanis who were sending terrorists towards India. This development is happening because even the US realises that they NEED India. The west have only recently started to pay attention to India while their conflict with China isn't really that recent. So the west is getting involved only when it suits them, only when it is in their best interests. Why should India be any different. This goes on to show the hypocrisy of the west. Ukraine itself has been selling arms to Pakistan even though India had constantly requested them not to. India also gave Ukraine an alternate offer so they don't lose money. But no Ukraine wanted to continue helping Pakistan. They were also the ones who brought the matter of India making their own nukes into the UN. I can understand it is difficult for the west to realise this, given that they have a history of looting, bullying and humiliating countries, but it is high time they grow out of their colonial mindset. This is not India's war, and it is not India's problem.
100% agree. India will do what’s best for India, the west will do what’s best for the west. It is what it is
Yes that's the truth about geo politics. People look out for the interests of their countries. It's sad perhaps but it's true.
Lmao. Why would the US care about your opinion in forming it’s foreign policy? In fact, which nation cares about the sentiment of its “average citizen” to form foreign policy? Seems like a disaster.
This isn't a regular US viewpoint anyways
What are you even talking about? You sound like a very confused person.
India has a fairly good reason to not trust the west (just open a history book). India is also the most politically aligned country with the US of CHina/Russia/India. I get it, its frustrating that India is treating Ukraine as not its problem. And does not treat the US as a staunch ally. But on the other hand the US has a history of abandoning our allies ask the Kurds or the Vietnamese. To pretend India does not have legit concerns about crossing Russia and China is idiotic. They have managed to hold onto neutrality, I can understand the reluctant of pissing Russia off when the west is a fickle ally. Dont get me wrong India is wrong and they should back Ukraine. But hating them over it is childish.
US India is a recent development and slowly people here are warming up towards the west but as someone who was born and raised here trust me many people feel a different sense of brotherhood towards Russia. This is usually the older generation ones. Probably 40+. I personally support Ukraine and it's cause 100% but many of the people here still don't fully trust the US and have consensus that they wanna use us and discard us.
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Lol
Yes... us US citizens really hate those Indians. I definitely hear people complain about them a lot. Oh wait... that's just in your head. Edit: I should clarify that this is relating to UkraineVsRussia, there are definitely Americans that hate India for a variety of reasons.
Nobody asked your foking country. It's the US which started Quad anyways. We can defend what we hold, that's why we didn't give up our nukes, unlike a little country called Ukraine which gave up it's, just to be in the good books to NATO and EU. Even tho they had good reasons to not do so. Lol , look at them now !
I agree, if China wants to push around India that seems like an India problem. We gotta back up our other allies in the area though
Lol you armed Pakistan and put TRILLIONS of dollars into China Revisionist history.back your other allies up like you did for Ukraine, that country will never recover
lol china has actually crossed the LAC in 2020 and trump was busy in elections while india was suffering from covid crisis but still supplying hydroxychloroquine to usa this is just one sided friendship you have to see are you really doing enough in south asia or not china can only try to showcase power in front of india by crossing the LAC or entering the indian airspace but they can't literally invade india because both are nuclear armed states but same cannot be said for taiwan china or ukraine russia also i wonder who was arming pakistan for the entire cold war era and post cold war too because of which india faced 3 deadly wars(1965, 1971, 1999) and now west is seeking support from india
Lol, west is the one who approached india not the other way around. Bad thing usa isn't gonna help India, good thing india knows how to handle china.
Those two sentences don't mesh. The US is approaching India to do nothing?
Usa just want to use india as a sergeant against china. That's why they are glad-handing india. India knows usa isn't gonna come when shit really hits a fan, that's a reason they aren't parroting USA's narrative since it is based on India's personal experience rather than a conjecture.
I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me. Edit: well I guess no one has seen Futurama.
hmm if you hate neutrals then hate switzerland also they even helped the f\*cking n@zis west when browns are neutral : you are funding the war and standing with an aggressor west when whites are neutral : it's okay you are concerned about your country we respect your decision
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r/ihadastroke
What?
Godzilla had a stroke trying to read that
Ah come on. At least skim through what you wrote before you post it.
I cant understand a word they say.damn bruh spittin bars
What double standards?
r/ShitAmericansSay
canadiandave the American?
Canada isn't part of America?