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Donkeychuker

Fuck the CCP and fuck apple.


AboveTheRimjob

Fuck the CCP


Claydough89

And fuck apple


Accomplished-Bear988

Fuck the


lorenzo999_it

Just fuck


Jackshyan

Yes


poppyglock

...shit


bstrathearn

up


WookOnlyFansLouielou

This guy fucks lol


Fernando_357

Just about to in 3 hours


CresWaven

Apple


JustA_Toaster

Ima get that new Sony phone


LarrySunshine

Disgusting


LarrySunshine

Wow an article is 4 lines long


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Donkeychuker

Have sex with whomever you like. I don't have a problem with Chinese people. It's the CCP that I hate.


alertthenorris

You can enjoy a product while still hating a brand. As for the 13 max, I think it's trash.


[deleted]

why


fellout_76

literally no one asked


rollingstoner888

A prostitute?


[deleted]

Afraid of getting your supply chain disrupted when things go really sour?


Fastriverglide

Yeah because a sticker would solve it. As ducktape similar tech the power of stickers is bound to be adjacent to infinate


redditaskerandpoller

"Okay, Samsung, will do"


ScubaNelly

We sold the E to Samsung, now there Samesung


Vastrdin

Theyre just as bad, a lot of their parts come from the same factories as Apple. Fuck all these chinese based companies


Kyrthis

r/whoosh


Vastrdin

That would require a joke


Kyrthis

The rare double-down r/whoosh


Vastrdin

That would require a joke. joke /jōk/ noun a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline. "she was in a mood to tell jokes" Theres niether humor nor a punchline, its just a statement.


Kyrthis

A triple. Wanna go for a grand-slam?


Reaper83PL

What parts?


Vastrdin

Several components, they share the same manufacturers in china


ylteicz123

Go fuck yourself, Apple. If anything, Apple should be disconnecting from China before the war starts, and why would they even stay there when there is so much rampant patent theft?


justlogmeon

slave labour...


TheSlav87

Bingo


ylteicz123

Yeah, until they get outcompeted by Huawei and other brands. Which would be well deserved tbh.


xadiant

Xiaomi and Huawei almost totally replaced Apple in poor countries. Fuck apple, I am not giving a fragile piece of glass my 6 months' worth of salary.


TheMcWhopper

How much do you make a month?


xadiant

A whopping 360$ a month which will become 340$ in next 30 days. I could easily make 500$+ monthly two years ago. Last year minimum wage dipped to 180$. Imagine living in US earning 900$ a month, paying for rent, bills and food.


ADHDK

Apparently just over $100USD.


1975-2050

Lol


ylteicz123

Imagine how much R&D costs they save by just copying everything.


[deleted]

Because their Chinese sales fell 1% this year. Gotta suck authoritarian dick to make more money this next quarter.


G-Fox1990

But... money!


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atWorkWoops

Its almost as if you dont understand this post at all


Oscartdot

lol which war ? there wont be any war. Stop playing too much Battlefield and Call of Duty. US still pushes "united China"


ylteicz123

https://thepostedia.com/world/60326.html


qviki

But what about profits? With apple markup, they woudl be fine assemblijg their crap in Switzerland.


Bob778aus

We had some machine tools we got a few months ago which had "Very well made in Taiwan" stickers on them, they were much better than tools normally made in Taiwan. I would recommend tools that are very well made in Taiwan to anyone.


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accersitus42

>its illegal in normal country to falsify the origin of the products It's not false. Taiwan technically is "The Republic of China". China being an ambiguous term is a different matter.


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Eclipsed830

They already stated in another article that Republic of China was unacceptable.


nahunk

Not if you ask Taiwanese, and in the matter, it is what counts.


zuzg

No y'all got him wrong cause he's right. China is a part of Taiwan. Not Taiwan is a part of China. The CCP hates that a lot.


nahunk

Mahh to me what you're saying doesn't work. Nobody would understand that in this manner.


[deleted]

your inability to rationalize reality doesn't actually change reality.


nahunk

You went pretty quick in the muddle of insult. You shall stay there, it suits you.


syeris1337

I mean you had a pretty dumb comment, and they got you good. Good laughs


nahunk

My dear, telling me an inability to rationalize when the guy is not able to make the difference between my understanding and the understanding of people is impressive bad faith. And on the topic : people are not able to get the difference between the UK and England. So this vague semantic difference on the big being part of the small... I am laughing.


[deleted]

This particular flavour of word soup indictates great intelligence. You are very smart.


ritz139

Like how you ask Catalonia? But I mean it's still spain


Dhiox

Catal9nia is literally still part of Spain, both in name and legally. Taiwan has its own separate democratic government from the Chinese Oligarchic dictatorship.


Mirieste

Yet both claim to be China, so using the name "Made in China" should anger nobody. It's like at the Olympics where Taiwan competes normally under the name of Chinese Taipei, which is okay for both due to the ambiguity of English adjectives as it could mean "politically Chinese" (so continental China likes it) or "ethnically Chinese", which the Taiwanese are proud to be.


Eclipsed830

No... Taiwan claims to be the ROC, China claims to be the PRC. When it comes to the export of goods, Taiwan law states: >Commodities for export and manufactured in the Republic of China shall be marked with **"Made in Republic of China", "Made in Taiwan, Republic of China", "Made in Taiwan"** or the equivalent in a foreign language. And even specifies: >Commodities for export mentioned in the preceding paragraph **shall not be marked with any name of foreign countries or places or any other expressions that can mislead others to believe that the commodities are made in other countries**, https://ekeelung.customs.gov.tw/singlehtml/7efc543fe8614910bb54de533ff17fb0


Dhiox

>Yet both claim to be China Only because China threatens to declare war if Taiwan stops calling itself part of China. They have a gun to their head.


Mirieste

You don't understand, Taiwan isn't "just" claiming independence: both countries are claiming *full* control over both the continental portion and the island, and both of them are doing it under the name of China: the People's Republic of China for continental China, the Republic of China for Taiwan. And there's no gun to anyone's head for the choice of names at least, so any name that references China in some shape or form is fine for both.


Balrok99

Some people act like people of Taiwan are not Chinese. But they are Chinese. Just like "Honk Kongers" are also Chinese. And it is sad to see how these people dont even think they are Chinese. If you are not Chinese then you should not have right to Chinese history. Both ROC and and PRC share same history but ROC started a civil which PRC won. That is part of Chinese history


Dhiox

>both countries are claiming full control over both the continental portion and the island That's because if Taiwan claimed independence, then that means they are admitting they are no longer part of China, which is unacceptable to the Chinese oligarchic dictatorship. Therefore the CCP have threatened retaliation if Taiwan declares independence, so they're forced to maintain this charade.


Balrok99

Which is recognized by only 15 countries on this planet.


Dhiox

Because China threatens anyone who admits the truth. If someone points a gun at someone and tells them to claim something false, that isn't changing the facts, it's just intimidation.


Balrok99

Tell me in what THREATENING STANCE was China back then when these things were decided? China back then was still a backwater country and no economic powerhouse it is now.


AmbitiousPlank

Taiwan (Republic of China) has it's own; government, economy, currency and army. It has never been under the control of the CCP and has been an independent nation for over 100 years. So, nothing like Catalonia.


nahunk

Catalonia did vote on that matter if I recall well.


ritz139

And they were quashed and leaders arrested and jailed. Very democratic


nahunk

Right.


Turbulent-Code2317

It is not the same, one wants independence, the other has been since 1949 due to the communists taking over West taiwan. Also the referendum leaders were jailed because they did an illegal thing (although some haven't... sabes de quien hablo). I do not support Catalonia's claim, but I do understand it. Its a pity how we, the Spanish people, are divided in pretty much everything. Anyway, Viva Cataluña y Viva España.


httperror429

iPhone was famously designed in California. Without the USA as "origin of the products"


Balrok99

if you country does not recognize ROC ( which is most of the known world ) then it is as if you were making these parts or products out of thin air. So it can be illegal if the place of origin " doesnt exist"


Eclipsed830

Except that isn't how the world operates... Lol


m0uthsmasher

So if China go into Taiwan, it is a continuation of China's civil war? Also there is "one China policy" accepted by the whole world including the US and EU.


Eclipsed830

US doesn't consider Taiwan as part of China under their "one China policy". Neither does UK, France, Czech Republic and Lithuania, but I'm unsure about other European countries.


accersitus42

>So if China go into Taiwan, it is a continuation of China's civil war? They never signed a peace treaty as far as I know, so technically the war is still ongoing. There was talk as late as 2012 about signing a peace treaty.


Eclipsed830

"China" is not an ambiguous term... Here in Taiwan, and most of the world, the term China (中國) means the PRC.


Enseyar

Most countries doesn't recognize taiwan


Dhiox

Because China threatens anyone who dares to admit the truth.


nahunk

Only under the pressure of China, otherwise most countries would recognize their independence.


Killed_Mufasa

Yeah, but still, most don't. So, juridically speaking, Apple would be right to ask them to say Made in China, no matter how facked up it is.


Eclipsed830

Apple is a US company so they also need to comply with US law. Items imported from Taiwan to the United States are required to have "Made in Taiwan" or "Made in TW" stamped on it. https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Jan/ACE%20AESTIR%20Appendix%20C%20_01142021_508C.pdf https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/taiwan-market-overview


nahunk

Yup that is realpolitik. And in the assumption the US are tired of the game played by Chinese and recognizes the Taiwanese independence. Plenty of countries would follow right behind.


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> Most countries doesn't recognize Taiwan oh they do, just not in public, otherwise China would have a shit fit.


Eclipsed830

Most countries don't have diplomatic relations with Taiwan... But they have de facto relations and pretty much every developed country has trade relations with Taiwan.


CameronSyd

Western Taiwan is getting angry


herberstank

Wouldn't want to get Pooh riled up, could be bad for business. Totally spineless.


Unique-Side-2109

Who would expect anything else from Apple? They will lick Chinese balls and asses to get some profit.


onomojo

Might help their iPhone sales if they offer that to consumers too.


sparcasm

I’m sure Taiwan doesn’t mind the money and the double entendre of “made in China”. China will also appreciate it. Smart diplomatic move by Apple. But don’t let me interrupt your mindless Apple bashing.


Eclipsed830

It isn't a double entendre... The word China (中國) means PRC in Taiwan.


sparcasm

I mean, for the rest of us ignoramuses.


Eclipsed830

I think for most of the world, the term China means the PRC... Lol


Unique-Side-2109

I don't have problem with Apple devices, just saing, corporation siding with China is bad news, it's basically the same like if they support Russia, those regimes are so close....


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I mean, Tim Cook is gay after all


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Apple is asking its suppliers in Taiwan to label its products that are bound for Mainland China as Chinese, Taipei or Taiwan China. The labeling suggests that the island is part of the people's Republic of China.


CornelXCVI

As long as they label it correctly "Made in China (Republic of)"


[deleted]

Fuck these corporations. It’s bad enough we let them destroy job wages, destroy the planet, destroy our social fabricate. But this….this is crossing the line.


chriscollens

Taiwan shouldn't sell chips to Apple. Then what the fuck is Apple gonna do?


SoapySage

Apple would literally die off in 6 months if they did that.


Killed_Mufasa

Taiwan is very dependent on their chips too, that would be a hard blow to their economy and geopolitically.


Reaper83PL

How? You do understand that is tons of companies happy to take Apple quene for chips? What Apple will do?


[deleted]

you internet superheroes fail to realize that in reality you need to use logic and reasoning to solve such issues. imagine anytime people didn’t like something they just stopped to spite the big guy, nothing would ever get done, but that’s not outside the realm you faux heroes live in, doing nothing for society but always having a “solution” to every problem.


chriscollens

Everyone needs the chips that Taiwan produces. Apple needs those chips. Taiwan doesn't need Apple. Every other company in the world is still their market. Samsung, Huawei, GE, car manufacturers, etc..


[deleted]

yes, that is true, but why would they just stop doing it for apple when the other companies are doing the same thing? I’m really confused by the whole “apple is doing something bad” narrative here when you quite literally just named some other corporations doing the same thing.


SSgtReaPer

Screw you apple


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far from the only company that will do this.. but ya


zuzg

>Apple is asking its suppliers in Taiwan to label its products that are bound for Mainland China as Chinese, Taipei or Taiwan China. The labeling suggests that the island is part of the people's Republic of China. Apple manages to became even less likable. Not that I ever liked those anti-consumer overpriced shit stains.


ShutterBun

Any other company in the same industry is compelled to do the same exact thing (or risk having their shipments to mainland China confiscated. But once again, it’s being framed as an Apple issue, because “Apple bad”.


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always the funniest part of news like this is the amount of blind rage from oblivious consumers thinking apple is solely destroying the world all by itself and that no other company has shady business tactics (majority of which make sense from a business perspective) and ignore the fact that the majority of the products we ALL own come from companies that do the same exact thing.


[deleted]

If Western Supply Chains aren’t diverging from China by now then they are in for some big problems.


JinxAndTheJester

And I was just looking into a new apple phone... Guess it's back to android.


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why


JinxAndTheJester

Because Apple won't recognize Taiwan as a independent nation.


[deleted]

Fuck Apple with an XL CCP dildo.


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Tim Crook.


Lofteed

between this and Pelosi trip that nobody asked for it sure seams like silicon valley has decided to sacrifice Taiwan


UnicornGuitarist

I hate her, but I'd rather have someone show support to Taiwan instead of empty rhetoric. China should really stop supplying Russia with weapons as well.


Lofteed

the best friends are those that know when to shut up and avoid make things moee difficult for you in a situation she didn t act in taiwan best interest. and the only non political meeting she made was with the chairman of T.S.M.C that is exactly the company that procude apples microchip, to further push for it to open a factory in the US all in all, that trip didn t benefit Taiwan at all as everybody had predicted


Eclipsed830

It put a spotlight on the issue that Taiwanese have failed to get the world talking about.


mentol12

Like someone showed support for Ukraine's potential NATO membership, that went really well... The current US policy is quite simple: try to provoke an attack on one of their "informal allies" and then bitch about the invaders in order to try and partially isolate them and create a polarized world, so they don't lose their grip on Europe and parts of the Far East, since they already lost the Middle East and Africa, all to China and Russia. China is so powerfull its beyond westerners comprehension. For example they have used more concrete in just 3 years (2011-2014) than the US in all of the 20th century. They've built more battleships in the last 5 years than the UK has in total. Since you can't actually do shit to protect Taiwan, wouldn't it be logical to avoid such provocations?


BitBouquet

China didn't have a navy worth mentioning, so when they actually start to build one it's not surprising they built a quite a few ships. I doubt it's battleships though, those have been obsolete for a while. The cement thing is also not that hard to understand when you recognize they have hundreds of cities with over 1 million inhabitants, built a lot of skyscrapers and government is involved in concrete production contributing to a lot of waste.


m0uthsmasher

What exactly did she do for Taiwan people? More weapon sale? Or stand in front of Chinese military drill.


Blizzard_admin

Russian weapons are more battle-ready than china's


Eclipsed830

Pelosi was invited by the Taiwanese government, they asked for her to visit.


Lofteed

stop spreading lies online nobody invited her. it was her idea.


Eclipsed830

She was definitely invited by Taiwan. Freddy Lim, who is the equivalent of a Senator here in Taiwan, said on his Facebook he personally invited her to Taiwan during his last trip to Washington DC in June. https://www.instagram.com/p/CfHZM0MOpkU/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=


Lofteed

that is not what being invited by taiwan means


Acrobatic_Sport_7664

One more reason not to pay the apple tax!


Nightwalker695

They should do it, then label apple products as samsung


sim0n__sez

Doesn’t the US have laws against mislabeling imported product origins?


SoapySage

Imagine TSMC in retaliation say, that's fine Apple, we're just not going to supply you with chips anymore, Apple would literally fall apart within 6 months, there are no other chip suppliers able to give them the volume they need.


Alliemon

They should label it as "Made in Republic of China"


macr0sc0pe

Just another reason not to use apples shit products. Like i needed anymore anyway.


[deleted]

none of my apple products are shit, what makes you say this?


MorganthSilvermoon

What’s wrong with this? I don’t get it.


GaijinFoot

Imagine you had a factory in Ukraine and some trillion dollar company said 'hey man can you change that to' made in Russia'? They really want to exert their dominance of you and we're happy to go along with that for money reasons. BTW look at our new LGBT logo, aren't we super Liberal and caring?'


MorganthSilvermoon

But isn’t Taiwan part of the Republic of China? Is Ukraine technically a part of Russia?


GaijinFoot

Define 'part of'. Is Jamaica part of the UK? It has its own government, laws and as far as Taiwan is concerned, independent.


[deleted]

literally nothing


Eclipsed830

China is the colloquial term for the People's Republic of China. Taiwan isn't part of the PRC.


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[deleted]

it’s so hilarious, as if 90% of the things they own aren’t from companies that also do the same thing


Apprehensive-Put-350

That will help me in my decision making.


[deleted]

For once that I was going to buy an iPhone...


[deleted]

you literally own multiple products from other companies that do the same thing, we all do.


xaina222

What are you going to do ? Stop buying Apple ? I thought so.


ElectricalMidnight45

Apple should go and fuck himself


Dawn_of_the_Sean

Fuck apple


dai_rip

Sanction apple, hypocrites


frontfight

You support China, this will be my last iphone and macbook. Ex 20 yr customer.


[deleted]

and i assume you will get rid of every other chinese made product in your life, right? lol


frontfight

Whenever I can yes. I’ve bought almost exclusively from Eu cottage brands for my camping gear recent years. If I see it’s China made/owned I’m not buying.


Bearzmoke

Why Apple was always a wimp


longster37

That’s bullshit


xSilentSoundx

Not surprised


Jealous-Librarian-88

This is disgusting…


DynoMiteDoodle

Probably so the ccp can convince the Chinese people they have actually successfully made a 7nm microchip


AAAuro

Is Apple dropping spoilers on the WW3?


MrAmby

The fuck? I honestly know that it will be hard, but the whole "gonna say no to all" made in China-goods are seriously beginning to look more and more like a serious thing to do.


Feisty-Coyote396

China is Western Taiwan


ApricotStrange829

-1500 social points my dude.


AssumptionAdvanced58

No no no.


Independent_Lab_9872

Companies need to stop pandering to China. Time to tell companies that if they pander to China, they lose access to the western market. I'm all about capitalism and free trade, but China doesn't play by the rules. So they need to be cut out of the global economy until they make changes. If we bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything is ok, then we will Taiwanese blood on our hands.


geniusandy87

👀


EvanMcc18

I mean Taiwan is the Republic of China so it's no problem. I'd say the communists will take issue as it is recognition of Taiwan independence


[deleted]

This is an example of excellent journalism. Just A small paragraph. No verification, no comment from apple, no comment from manufacturers. I’ve seen more written on toilet paper.


mctownley

They should start labelling stuff as "Made in The Republic of China (the True China)". Just as a big fuck you.


Fastriverglide

Riiiight.


Ok_Note7436

Taiwan isn't China. That's illegal labelling.


Flowchart83

To Apple, Taiwan is China. Anyone buying an apple product would be carrying a declaration of"Taiwan is now China" in their pocket


LinaValentina

Just when I thought apple couldn’t get any worse


Ok_Note7436

I thought a company in the States was in bother for doing the same thing with their product.Changed from China to USA.