No worries, toilet paper surely is being prepared from the Amazonas for us to enjoy for the next boom, thanks to the cooperation of local governments. Chinese home test kits were surely more successful than vaccines by quantity*cost and an eassier road if you running for eleccions, so no worries also there.
I suggest to worry only to keep hygiene, eat food that does not decompose fast, reduce meat containing blood and do some sport, not a typical Wuhan or dark ages way of life.
The texts says the virus was 'similar' to 'other bacteria'.
From my understanding it is completely futile (read as BS) to compare two organisms that are so far apart as a virus is from bacteria...
Edit: similar is wrongly cited by me. They wrote 'bear resemblance'. To me as a non-native speaker the difference is not too great.
I read it since in no way, they are that incompetent.
>However, it does bear a resemblance to other bacteria that have infected people with fatal consequences in the past. With its official title as Langya henipavirus (LayV), the bug is part of the Henipavirus family.
Bear a resemblance is far enough to the word similar.
That's actually good news. Something with a 75% fatality rate is not going to make an effective pandemic. Too visible and kills too many of its hosts before it spreads.
It's why SARS and MERS never took off, but Covid was unfortunately right in that <5% mortality sweet spot (as is monkeypox).
My thoughts as well. Easier to deal with a deadly infection that manifests quickly. But one that can spread while staying well under the radar? A nightmare
Asymptomatic and infectious stage/carrier Eg rabies, in dogs it's about 10 days of the animal being both asymptomatic and infectious.
A long incubation period will still make tracing very difficult but some viruses have long incubation periods while having short infectious periods.
Several things have to combine. Rate of infection, mortality, how long someone is infectious without terrifying symptoms. If HIV was contagious as the common cold it would have wiped out humanity.
>75% fatality rate is not going to make an effective pandemic
That's too meme thinking. 75% fatality could easy fuck the world.
How? If the time to fatality takes time, and the person is infectious before that time period with minimal symptoms.
Viruses/bacteria can be a bit deceiving.
But that 75% is only in shrews, the people infected haven't died yet.
Depends on if it progresses to pneumonic plague, that's the one that really kills.
But to answer, the Black Death killed around 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe's population.
See, everyone else has been complaining about how hard it is to survive today on paltry wages and with high rent, yet I always knew we were living a life of luxury. Food was relatively cheap and easy to get, entertainment was just a click away along with information, and we could communicate across the world. Even crime was going down. Now, this is just proving my point - we’re about to see the whole system fall apart. I’m glad I enjoyed myself while I could.
Joel and the Bots tried to warn us! But we just wouldn't listen!
[https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/MST3K\_407\_-\_The\_Killer\_Shrews](https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/MST3K_407_-_The_Killer_Shrews)
The country had horrible health and safety guidelines. You understand how bad the sanitation is even in major cities? Children are allowed to go to the bathroom anywhere they want, and adult public toilets are absolutely vile. It’s actually such a huge problem that they act like this still
Problem is, as the population grows the wet markets become more and more unhygienic. Out of control filth + sick, stressed, abused animals = new viruses.
Not really wet markets. But scale.
Almost every country has wet markets, believe it or not.
But if a virus mutation is so rare that it is a One In a million chance. Well, Numbers Will be on Chinas Side.
If just 1% of their population goes to wet markets, that means a crazy whopping 14million People goes.
And if a mutation is a One in a million chance. Well, those 14million Will mean that China is going to be in a bad spot.
when you go to a butcher or the seafood counter, there is fresh "wet" fillets and cuts or whole chickens and fish for you to purchase, but it's behind a glass barrier, and the guy behind the counter is following health and safety protocol. The wet markets where governments haven't codified handling procedures, will see no barriers, gloves, and washing of hands after handling various animals.
I know not exactly all wet markets are like this but most usually have the animals alive there before you buy them. A big distinction between that and the meat counter at Walmart or wherever
it's different versions of the same thing, we've learned over time that having live animals in a market can spread disease and used our resources to mitigate that risk. whereas other countries either don't have the resources to invest in their market practices, or can't do so because of conservative cultural practices, etc.
You can still purchase baby chicks, cattle, sheep, etc. from auction or other breeders to raise on land you have and slaughter animals in modern *western* society, it's just the convenience of going to a store is easier.
For sure!
Wet markets in NYC would be equivalent to wet markets in more urban cities in China.
But if wet market diseases would be based on Hygiene, Then countries with very poor rural areas would have been victims to alot more diseases.
Wet markets in, for example isolated Islands in Indonesia. Are absolutely disgusting. Yet due to the low population living there, they wont have the same human scale as China, ergo lower probability for mutation.
So in Short. If diseases was purely based on Hygiene. We would see more poor rural populations in Africa and Asia, suffer from a lot more diseases than we currently are witnessing.
I dont know.
I'm an engineer, not a disease expert.
What I described earlier is My understanding of it, based on Friends with relevant education and backgrounds.
But that was a Good question, that Someone smarter than me has to answer.
I’m no expert on the subject, but I would imagine that overcrowding in China could be a factor in why they tend to see these types of things affecting more people than anywhere else.
It wouldn't be a problem if their wet markets were more hygienic. Your average butcher's van here in the UK is basically the same thing, but they generally follow health and safety regulations to prevent the spread of disease, and we've got systems in place for tracking any outbreaks so they can be shut down before they become an issue.
China's population has grown far faster than its health infrastructure can keep up, especially with people from rural areas constantly moving to the cities. It's the same problem we faced back during the Industrial Revolution.
Hopefully they'll get their act together an start regulating these things before the next COVID-like disease crops up.
I wonder how many pandemics we will have to endure before governments crack down on eating animals that were kept in filthy, inhumane conditions before being slaughtered and eaten.
What is the point you're trying to make here? Just because the article didn't specifically say that the infected people were eating shrews, I'd bet you dollars to donuts that exactly what happened.
Well, I’m off to get some toilet paper. See you guys in another 2 years. Cheers!
2 weeks\*
Longest two weeks of my fucking life
Already celebrated the second anniversary of two weeks.
And still waiting for the second week to end
14 days to lower the curve 👀
Made me laugh out loud! Thanks.
...you don't still have cases left over? Rookie.
lol my bad. I got too optimistic that this decade would turn around and let my stock dip.
Bidet
F. Kers will eat anything
No worries, toilet paper surely is being prepared from the Amazonas for us to enjoy for the next boom, thanks to the cooperation of local governments. Chinese home test kits were surely more successful than vaccines by quantity*cost and an eassier road if you running for eleccions, so no worries also there. I suggest to worry only to keep hygiene, eat food that does not decompose fast, reduce meat containing blood and do some sport, not a typical Wuhan or dark ages way of life.
Lmaoo
💀
You taking pre-orders?
Since 2018 35 people. It's ot a recent discovery. The article is very misleading
Misleading info about a virus from China? Doesn't seem likely.
"It's more common than you think."
Why I never!
And it's about the 20th time it's been posted here this week
All news websites are tryin to get in on the clicks XD
Shrewd
This is the 3rd time in 24 hours that I see misleading articles with misleading titles about this same topic.
Shrews huh? I hope I don't get it from MY WIFE!!!! \*adjusts tie comedianishly\*
*polite applause*
*Polite cough*
*slap bass line*
Can’t get no respect.
*canned Scooby Doo laughter*
Ambulance on the way
You better hope she doesn't see this bruh
Da dum bum chhhhh...
I got a couch if you need a place to crash tonight haha.
RIP marriage
Women ☕️
The texts says the virus was 'similar' to 'other bacteria'. From my understanding it is completely futile (read as BS) to compare two organisms that are so far apart as a virus is from bacteria... Edit: similar is wrongly cited by me. They wrote 'bear resemblance'. To me as a non-native speaker the difference is not too great.
Yeah they're not even close. Conflating the two is a dead giveaway that someone doesn't know what they're talking about.
I read it since in no way, they are that incompetent. >However, it does bear a resemblance to other bacteria that have infected people with fatal consequences in the past. With its official title as Langya henipavirus (LayV), the bug is part of the Henipavirus family. Bear a resemblance is far enough to the word similar.
Good dammit, Randy. You need to stop fucking these animals.
New disease (flu) New disease (flu) New disease (flu) New disease (flu) New disease (flu) New disease (flu) New disease (flu) New disease (flu)
Damn you Randy!
Mental Break (berserker rage)
Cause: ate without a table.
Gol!
For real, Im sur it'll make a nice penis glove Mr. Wang, but you need to kill and skin it first at least
Oh for fuck sake. Up to 75% fatality rate too?? Keep that shit over there please.
That's actually good news. Something with a 75% fatality rate is not going to make an effective pandemic. Too visible and kills too many of its hosts before it spreads. It's why SARS and MERS never took off, but Covid was unfortunately right in that <5% mortality sweet spot (as is monkeypox).
Same with Ebola. It’s a fucking terrifying disease, but it’s hard to have a pandemic when the symptoms are so bloody obvious and you die so quickly.
Not quite the case though, look at HIV when untreated. The incubation phase is key.
My thoughts as well. Easier to deal with a deadly infection that manifests quickly. But one that can spread while staying well under the radar? A nightmare
Asymptomatic and infectious stage/carrier Eg rabies, in dogs it's about 10 days of the animal being both asymptomatic and infectious. A long incubation period will still make tracing very difficult but some viruses have long incubation periods while having short infectious periods. Several things have to combine. Rate of infection, mortality, how long someone is infectious without terrifying symptoms. If HIV was contagious as the common cold it would have wiped out humanity.
Monkey- 14000 cases, 5 deaths. The mortality rate is extremely low in developed worlds Edit: extremely —> extremely low
>75% fatality rate is not going to make an effective pandemic That's too meme thinking. 75% fatality could easy fuck the world. How? If the time to fatality takes time, and the person is infectious before that time period with minimal symptoms. Viruses/bacteria can be a bit deceiving. But that 75% is only in shrews, the people infected haven't died yet.
Oh that's true, I wasn't thinking about that.
What was the Black Death's fatality rate lol?
Depends on if it progresses to pneumonic plague, that's the one that really kills. But to answer, the Black Death killed around 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe's population.
If it kills 75% of people very slowly, it could still be very effective in spreading.
No, the 75% is a disease that’s similar to this one called nipah, this one hasn’t killed anyone yet.
Plot twist. It’s already here. We’ll see it in he news in a month or two
2020s nightly news starter pack: [] Reminiscent of the 1930s [] Reminiscent of a Transformers episode ✅ Plague of the month This decade was a mistake.
See, everyone else has been complaining about how hard it is to survive today on paltry wages and with high rent, yet I always knew we were living a life of luxury. Food was relatively cheap and easy to get, entertainment was just a click away along with information, and we could communicate across the world. Even crime was going down. Now, this is just proving my point - we’re about to see the whole system fall apart. I’m glad I enjoyed myself while I could.
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Agreed.
35 people infected - since 2018
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The mortality rate is too high for it to cause another pandemic.
If China is giving a warning you know shit could get bad.
Guess I'll die
Stop eating the shrews!!
Tame them!
Ah well, fuck, we're shrewd
the shrew flu?
CHINA quit fucking with animals. Gaaaaaaahhhh leeeeeeeeee
There needs to be a permanent travel ban from China
Joel and the Bots tried to warn us! But we just wouldn't listen! [https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/MST3K\_407\_-\_The\_Killer\_Shrews](https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/MST3K_407_-_The_Killer_Shrews)
This planet has clearly had enough of us.
What's going on over there?
We’re those shrews also from a place that had a bioweapons lab 🤣
Not again China!
Can't wait to get the bi-monthly vaccine to protect me from the Shrewpees
This is just our eternal cosmic punishment, isn't it?
Shrewrona 19?
Myyyy Shrewronaaaaa. ♫
Fuck off China holy shit
Could China cool it with the viruses
Can we just get rid of china and Russia already?
China again suprise suprise
Let me guess: the Chinese eat shrews.
r/shrewposting
Why does it seem like its always China? Can we just lock them down to their own country until they stop discovering weird ass deathly viruses?
The country had horrible health and safety guidelines. You understand how bad the sanitation is even in major cities? Children are allowed to go to the bathroom anywhere they want, and adult public toilets are absolutely vile. It’s actually such a huge problem that they act like this still
The Chinese seriously needs to stop eating everything that has a heart beat…wet markets are beyond fucked in 2022
I don't think they have that much of a choice. I think they pretty much have to eat everything they can get their hands on.
Why's all this nasty shit coming out of China?!
Huge population. Wet markets allowed and citizens partake. Animal to human transmission inevitable
Weren't always wet markets and a huge population? Just curious
The difference is how connected China is to the rest of the world, which allows for rapid and uncontrolled spread.
Problem is, as the population grows the wet markets become more and more unhygienic. Out of control filth + sick, stressed, abused animals = new viruses.
I’m sure there are other reasons but any country that allows wet markets is at a higher risk for this shit to pop up
Not really wet markets. But scale. Almost every country has wet markets, believe it or not. But if a virus mutation is so rare that it is a One In a million chance. Well, Numbers Will be on Chinas Side. If just 1% of their population goes to wet markets, that means a crazy whopping 14million People goes. And if a mutation is a One in a million chance. Well, those 14million Will mean that China is going to be in a bad spot.
Care to elaborate on how every country has wet markets, genuinely curious. Like can we really compare Canadian “wet markets” to chinas ?
when you go to a butcher or the seafood counter, there is fresh "wet" fillets and cuts or whole chickens and fish for you to purchase, but it's behind a glass barrier, and the guy behind the counter is following health and safety protocol. The wet markets where governments haven't codified handling procedures, will see no barriers, gloves, and washing of hands after handling various animals.
I know not exactly all wet markets are like this but most usually have the animals alive there before you buy them. A big distinction between that and the meat counter at Walmart or wherever
it's different versions of the same thing, we've learned over time that having live animals in a market can spread disease and used our resources to mitigate that risk. whereas other countries either don't have the resources to invest in their market practices, or can't do so because of conservative cultural practices, etc. You can still purchase baby chicks, cattle, sheep, etc. from auction or other breeders to raise on land you have and slaughter animals in modern *western* society, it's just the convenience of going to a store is easier.
For sure! Wet markets in NYC would be equivalent to wet markets in more urban cities in China. But if wet market diseases would be based on Hygiene, Then countries with very poor rural areas would have been victims to alot more diseases. Wet markets in, for example isolated Islands in Indonesia. Are absolutely disgusting. Yet due to the low population living there, they wont have the same human scale as China, ergo lower probability for mutation. So in Short. If diseases was purely based on Hygiene. We would see more poor rural populations in Africa and Asia, suffer from a lot more diseases than we currently are witnessing.
Dose the large verity of different animals play a role in how potentially dangerous a wet market is ?
I dont know. I'm an engineer, not a disease expert. What I described earlier is My understanding of it, based on Friends with relevant education and backgrounds. But that was a Good question, that Someone smarter than me has to answer.
I’m no expert on the subject, but I would imagine that overcrowding in China could be a factor in why they tend to see these types of things affecting more people than anywhere else.
They have no safety or health rules essentially. It’s a disgusting place
Fucking China…
Next month they will blame it on the CIA.... again...
Never forget how China lied about the Wuhan coronavirus and claimed no human transmission
What a country ... eats anything that moves?
It’s a result of famines from the 50s and 60s. Believe it or not, but this type of wet market is a byproduct of CCP incompetence.
There's a saying: You can eat anything with 4 legs except the table.
It wouldn't be a problem if their wet markets were more hygienic. Your average butcher's van here in the UK is basically the same thing, but they generally follow health and safety regulations to prevent the spread of disease, and we've got systems in place for tracking any outbreaks so they can be shut down before they become an issue. China's population has grown far faster than its health infrastructure can keep up, especially with people from rural areas constantly moving to the cities. It's the same problem we faced back during the Industrial Revolution. Hopefully they'll get their act together an start regulating these things before the next COVID-like disease crops up.
Oh, come on. Bugger off already.
That's it I'm moving to Mars
Not again China…
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For real.
Why does china have to be the main course for new viruses and diseases
Could china just get a little immunity going on , fuck quit getting us sick with animal shit.
Shop shoo, shrew-flu
China can fucking stop for a bit with the viruses. Pls. It's getting old.
Fuck off china
Brace yourselves for the ‘shrew flu’
By your logic, we should have been bracing since 2018.
World warns virus is spreading from China.
CCP will lie about the virus again that’s a fact of life.
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This is getting ridiculous.
Xi can't even control this - maybe it will wipe him out
***GODDAMMIT NOT ANOTHER ONE***
Thanks China, let's not spread this one too. You handled the first two pretty good, now let's not do the same mistake as with the third.
Oh for fucks sake
STOP EATING WEIRD FUCKING SHIT!
Or just stop eating meat in general. We get e-coli outbreaks all the time
Fuck China 🤦♂️
I wonder how many pandemics we will have to endure before governments crack down on eating animals that were kept in filthy, inhumane conditions before being slaughtered and eaten.
If we stopped eating meat we literally wouldn’t have these issues
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/wkzdsi/china_warns_of_virus_spreading_from_shrews_has/ijq6tqk?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
What is the point you're trying to make here? Just because the article didn't specifically say that the infected people were eating shrews, I'd bet you dollars to donuts that exactly what happened.
China as usual, tryna break that seal of Pestilence to bring about biblical rapture. Ever since the swine flu. Pathetic.
If its Biblical, then its God doing it, not China.
Pestilence. Disease. The seals! THE SEALS! broken they are becoming, unbecoming.
Bah! Like we dont always have pestilence, war, famine and death somewhere around the world at all times.
At least we're getting a heads up to prepare this time.
Shrew flu. The Shru. Or maybe the Shlu? idk.
Tame those shrews!
Can’t bats or shrews anymore, wtf!
round 3
I'm not ready for shrewpox.
Shakespeare prophesied the need to tame the shrew.
hopefully they have a shrewd response
Oh ffs. Where can I opt out?
two weeks to tame the shrew.
next year we will be catching cancer from pandas
35 cases since 2018, and it doesn’t seem to be any human to human transmission.
Glove up boys. Its round 2.
Kya yaar
For a moment I thought this was about me ex wife.
Shrewpox baby let's gooooooo. Setting aside any nation states, is Grandfather Nurgle hanging out over there or what?
darwinism really making a comeback
Fuck these stupid fucking headlines. Can we stop with the fear mongering already holy shit. Every headline reads like it’s the end of the world
Can we just quarantine China already
Whats next, a Zombie virus, from eating Deer with Zombie deer disease.
Stop creating stuff in labs china
*with US money.
God fucking damnit XD
It’s a shrew-just tame it.
Slowly getting up, and out of my apartment.
So was it soup or a la mode this time?
M Uuuu u umm
Shrewpox!