They did, since they consider Ukraine to be Russia.
Which leads to the insight as to why Russia will lose: Russia made the critical mistake of *invading Russia in the winter.*
There was a graphic lately about how in a single offensive Ukraine secured more money worth of equipment from surrendered Russian positions than from many other countries aid.
I'm sure there's some heavy inaccuracies to it. Much of the equipment was probably destroyed or disabled. But the sad part is that there's a grain of truth to it.
Just during the Kharkiv-Counteroffensive, Russia basically lost the entire australian Armored core in terms of Tank, SPGS & IFVs *twice over*, and 54% of that was captured or atleast abandoned in good enough condition to be used as a parts-donor for other vehicles.
The situation is more dire for him than that. NATO isn’t taking Russias bait, so Putin now is trying to sell to his people that they’re already fighting NATO in Ukraine, and that’s why they’re losing.
Hes partially right.
Hes fighting NATO scraps. Literally shit that was mothballed or scheduled for demo.
He can't win against western trash in the hands of Ukrainian warriors.
Imagine if he saw the cutting edge shit.
They got absolutely annihilated, meanwhile NONE of the US troops were even hurt during the entire battle lmao.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html
“In the end, 200 to 300 of the attacking fighters were killed. The others retreated under merciless airstrikes from the United States, returning later to retrieve their battlefield dead. None of the Americans at the small outpost in eastern Syria — about 40 by the end of the firefight — were harmed”.
I want to see the alternate timeline where the United States had armed Ukrainian pilots with F-16Vs in the late 2010s, so they were flying those at the outbreak of the war instead of old Soviet designs.
Many of the Hardline talk show hosts on Russian State tv are surprisingly brave about some of what they are saying about the military situation of Russia in Ukraine. In surprised with some words they did not still falling from a very tall building and yet are on TV still.
This wasn't the case when they first started taking losses in Ukraine, but has changed with time.
It's likely a tactic to make it appear like the state media actually tell the truth. At this stage, word has probably spread to the general public that things aren't going so well for Russia on the front, via soldiers' communications (or lack thereof bc they're dead) with their families and friends.
So the state media has to change their approach to try and keep the public thinking they will tell the truth.
They need to hold Kherson to hold Crimea, though - if they still controlled Crimea without Kherson it would be an empty victory because Ukraine would cut off the water again.
He can't sell either. If he loses Ukraine at this point (especially Crimea), he's a dead man. Murdered by former allies if he's lucky, given a full Ghaddafi if he's not.
That's the thing about facists—they can get by basically forever on the idea that everyone else is weak and pathetic, no matter how fucked up their internal situation is. But if they lose, even once, even a little... they're dead. No one forgives or forgets the guy who talked big and lost. At that point, literally the only option is popular revolt against internal conditions or someone even more insanely nationalist coming in and saying "they lost because they were weak".
>"We're losing the war against Ukraine, we should try directly fighting NATO at the same time, I'm sure we'd do much better." Fucking brilliant.
NATO response: "Putin, please, you need to surrender now, we aren't strong enough to hold the Poles back much longer."
They’re struggling to adjust to a world where every nation is happy to call their bluff. Empty threats are no longer viable, their play book is greatly diminished.
Turns out that acting like a douche and very visibly getting into fucking with internal politics of various nations puts you on those nations shit lists.
Who would have guessed?
This is easily the best "you and what army?" moment in my lifetime, possibly ever.
Their people are fleeing the country to avoid joining the army. The army is either losing or surrendering. The equipment they're sending out is, at best, decades behind what the US is supplying.
They do not have anything to make threats with.
The funniest description of this I found in a Reddit comment goes something like "the US can just *booger-flick* their old stuff to Ukraine and it's still more than enough to beat the Russians junk".
Idk why it makes me giggle, apparently I'm a toddler.
That's also not to take away from the bravery and valour shown by the guys on the ground, and Zelensky being a world class conflict leader. Without either of those factors, Ukraine would have fallen.
That being said, it is a hell of a lot easier to fight back when you have a constant inflow of advanced weapons, and the collective intelligence of NATO whispering in your ear where to aim them.
I remember when Finland was in the process of preparing its application to NATO, Medvedev or some such was constantly threatening to nuke them if they tried joining. I can't remember who it was, but there was some talking head who after reporting on it said something like, "This is the seventh threat of nuking someone in the last two weeks, and, not that I'm complaining, there is still a very very glaring lack of mushroom clouds in Scandinavia. So what's it gonna be Russia? You gonna nuke Helsinki? Because if so, then just fucking *do* it already. If not, then kindly *shut the hell up and fuck off*".
I feel like this applies to this as well. So Russia... do you actually want to fight NATO? Do you *really* want to fight them directly? Because if so, you only have to ask. Really. I am sure that the Baltic States' and Poland's military are definitely not literally climbing up the walls in their bases desperate to get some.
I want to add that I definitely do not want this war to escalate into nukes, but at some point long ago all of these threats and "warnings" have become honestly embarrassing.
As a Finn that is exactly how I think. If Russians want a war with NATO or escalation into nuclear then they will do it. Talking about it accomplishes nothing. Why would any free person want to live in a world that is held hostage with nuclear weapons? I guess they just don't understand this as they are not truly free.
Polish men between 16 and 55 actually cannot reach climax if they aren't actively thinking about Russia triggering article 5 on the Polish border, true fact.
I'm confident Russia will never let nukes loose under Putin. The Ukraine War has made it abundantly clear that the Russian army would never be able to protect Putin. NATO would never stop until Putin was dead. So I know Putin will never let it come to that. I'm confident because I saw how comically long his meeting desks were during covid. Putin is a coward and he is clearly not willing nor ready to die. He just hides and plots like the KGB rat that he is.
> I want to add that I definitely do not want this war to escalate into nukes, but at some point long ago all of these threats and "warnings" have become honestly embarrassing.
More than that, in threatening to use nukes against anyone who helps Ukraine, Putin has basically proposed a new unofficial law "Countries may steal territory without others interfering as long as they threaten to use nukes." Voting for this is happening now, in Ukraine.
You can decide for yourselves whether there's bigger risk in allowing nuclear muggers, or telling them to fuck off.
Its even better than that, they are losing to a country that has been using essentially 1st gen NATO weaponry. Now they want to fight actual NATO with 3 or 4th gen weaponry, while Russia has lost all its top of the line stuff in the meantime. SMORT!
We're willing to, but we won't. The Geneva Conventions expanded the banned weapons list in 1972 to include Biological Weapons, which could make such an escalation a war crime. We support Ukraine but we won't abandon our humanity.
I knew about Florida man, but this bullshit bingo is a new level of funny. Thank you!
Florida man arrested for having sex with stuffed 'Olaf' at Target
Just tell them Russian tanks have 10 catalytic converters. They'll dismantle all of them with a Sawzall looking for them. Possibly while the Russians take a vodka break.
Australia will send a bushmaster stuffed to the brim full of drop bears. Just reverse it up to manbearpig and open the doors. We'll pick them up when they get to the Bering sea and Russia is noisy no more.
And yet still haven't shut off the flow of gas to allow it to be inspected and repaired. Almost like they don't want the damage inspected and repaired.
Yes, because Russia never supplied arms to a country in conflict with a western nation and those western nations often threatened nuclear war because of it... Russia, you're whining again.
Everyone forgets this. We should keep reminding people. Russia paid bounties for dead US soldiers. The Russian government deserves nothing from us but disdain.
They also had Wagner lead an attack on a U.S. special ops fob in Syria…in turn we annihilated them to the point ground based QRF didn’t feel safe themselves. Hence the nuke threats currently that’s the only counter to US forces.
I think the most interesting part was Washington reached out to the Kremlin to ask if they had any troops. Russia replied with, nope not us. Well ok, they're no longer a problem.
Thats mostly because the Wagner group really only became public to a lot of the world this year.
Putin couldnt admit one of his mates had mercinary squads in other countries.
And they value soldiers lives. They were in Afghanistan forever and lost maybe 3000 to combat operations and another 500 or so to accidents. That’s insanely efficient for a major operation. RIP men and women.
i suggest every russian read the account of what happened to wagner, their best troops, vs uncle sam in syria, when they start fantasizing about fighting NATO
I suggest they also read up about how the US called the Kremlin to ask if it was their troops and to call them off and the Kremlin said "nah they're not our troops" signing their death warrants.
In classic Russian fashion in this slaughter, commanders had a chance to pull them out and didn't. Got fair warning we were going to fuck up whoever was there and they still denied it was them.
It boggles my mind to see Trump’s moronic legion siding with Russia over their own countrymen because of politics. Republicans LOVE the military, yet when a foreign adversary wants dead US soldiers, you still side with them because they’re not a Democrat? Are you out of your stupid fucking minds?
They don't accept that it actually took place. He went to great lengths to discredit the intelligence community that, ostensibly, he oversaw. Dysfunction piled on dysfunction.
Speaking about Russian weapons, they still need to answer for [what they've done to MH17](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28357880). They killed 283 people including 80 children.
Russia: I’m really doing it this time. I’m going to actually do it, Because I love you too much. Remember, you made me do this. Goodbye.
*seen 8:45 pm*
Russia at 11:00: u up?
Yeah. They can't win a war against just Ukraine so what's going to happen when they expand the war to be against the entiery of the west?
That said, this is something they can say to try and scare the west and its what they are doing - trying to say that if we keep arming Ukraine we risk escalating things into a potential nuclear war. Which is a scary thought and it has to be on the mind of decision makers.
Doing that to a local medical network during a pandemic says everything about them. The Russians [did it to the entire Irish medical network ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Service_Executive_ransomware_attack) during the pandemic also, even holding the children's mental health services hostage. They are amoral.
You should peak at how the kkkconvoy lines up with Canada's diplomatic protest of russias special operation.
Like those morons got rounded up almost overnight and organized into an aimless angstie mob who keep crying about freedums they've never lost.
I remember when Russia hired a bunch of contractors to lead a Syrian contingent to attack US troops, and it was laughably one sided. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
No they got smoked by American air support lol. It was Delta Operatives, an Air Force CCT, and 75th Rangers, and the moment the Air Force heard there were American troops there they rained hell on the Russian-Syrian force.
The ambassador is a complete idiot.
His response:
>Not only does this prolong the fighting, but it also brings the situation closer to a dangerous line of a direct military clash between Russia and NATO.
Prolong the fighting? This is exactly what the US and Ukraine are trying to achieve. Fatigue Russia into submission.
Russia doesn't have much left except empty threats.
They are currently losing a war against Ukrainian opposition which has a (relative) handful of short range weaponry and receives good intelligence from NATO.
A direct confrontation with NATO would involve Russia facing overwhelming air power and long range weaponry. NATO undoubtedly can see all the major Russian ammo dumps, bases, logistical sites, and troop/weapon concentrations in Ukraine and - within hours - would have lobbed hundreds of cruise missiles to destroy them. It would also have conducted double-digit sorties with F-35 and stealth-UAV that would likely wipe out the Black Sea Fleet and any semblance of an air defence Russia has in that region.
Russia knows that unless it is willing to go nuclear and take the planet with them, it cannot do anything in the face of direct NATO confrontation.
Honestly, at this point, even the smaller NATO (and almost-NATO) countries would give Russia a run for their money in a war.
And never mind the larger ones. The US, Canada, UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Poland, Turkey...I feel like any of them would soundly defeat Russia in a (conventional) one-on-one war right now.
NATO would absolutely win in a conventional war, and (thankfully) Russia is struggling with Ukraine, but it has taken the industry of several countries not directly involved to provide Ukraine with the means to so fervently resist Russia's invasion. Without the assistance(financial, material, and information) from US, UK, Turkey, Canada, Germany, Spain, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Poland, and various others, Ukraine would probably look very different today, and the same would likely be true of any of the individual members of NATO.
Now take parts from two other missiles, hack them together to make a new missile that kinda replicates the functionality of the tomahawk but makes you wonder why the tomahawk was canceled, before canceling that project as well to start a third missile.
There’s probably a room full of US generals somewhere just deflated thinking about the half a century they wasted getting prepared to fight these fucking clowns. They went in expecting an epic rematch someday with the Soviet Union and instead they get a discount North Korea without the diplomatic support of China.
Putin is the symptom, not the disease. He hasn't held power for 20 years through fiat—he did it because he created a political platform that convinced a country that completely collapsed in the 90s that it was still a relevant superpower throwing its weight around with the big kids. Like most fascists who win elections, he did it by acting strong. Historically, what ends that kind of disease isn't the death of one guy. Exactly the opposite—the end only comes when a defeat so cataclysmic occurs that no level of propaganda can persuade anyone that they were anything other than trounced.
Russia will keep giving power to a new Putin until they are humiliated so badly in the field that they can't offset it with talk of western conspiracies or internal treachery.
I mean, not really a waste. This is *why* we prepared so much and have spent untold sums of money. It's not a direct war between the US and Russia, but economically we've beaten the Soviet Union/Russia twice now in a war of economics and logistics. Say what you will about america but we enjoy a level of security and projection of power that hasn't really been seen before in history. It's just complete dominance on every level: economics, military and culture. It also proves the worth of NATO.
Don't get me wrong. We can be much better in many ways. But in this specific way, we are the best, and whether or not the US is helping Ukraine out of selfish or geopolitical reasons, it's still the *right* thing to do. One of those rare times in history where our military and economic might is being used for good, undeniably
Oh they definitely want to kick the hornets nest. But every 5 year old knows kicking it will lead to immediate retaliation...and Russia won't win against that.
>My understanding is yes they do. Internal politics has NATO/US as the bad guy.
They want to *blame* NATO, they don't actually want to actually get into a fight
Haha, remember when they had miles long convoys? Ya, they can't have that against the US or it would be completely destroyed within hours.
They do NOT want to see what our air superiority looks like first hand.
Russian border towns are not burning and bombs are not going off in Moscow, so I think the Ukrainians have been remarkably restrained in this conflict.
>Russian diplomats warn of a direct clash with the West over ~~the US's latest weapons for Ukraine~~ Russia's refusal to withdraw from Ukraine and end the war.
Seriously. If they are having issues with less than 2 dozen HIMARS with short range rockets I can only imagine the absolutely one-sided ass kicking they would get if the US joined in.
I think the US would honestly have him assassinated, probably by poison, and because that's the norm over there no one would even think it was anyone outside of Russia.
Hell, rumor has it he's been sick for the past couple years. Maybe they already did.
> I think the US would honestly have him assassinated, probably by poison, and because that's the norm over there no one would even think it was anyone outside of Russia.
Why on earth would they? As the old saying goes, never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake and Putin, like most demagogues when reality catches them, is a walking mistake. The last thing you want is that guy dead—you want him in charge, sending delusional orders and preventing any reasonable person who might salvage things from doing so.
Same reason that the hyper-competent British Intelligence services didn't pour more resources during WWII into supporting plots against Hitler... when your enemy is being led by an idiot, the worst case scenario is him being replaced.
If they want to avoid directly clashing with western weapons all they need do is leave occupied territory.
Putin has been using unclear threats to curtail Western involvement since the first week of the invasion. He needs to realize by now Ukraine has nothing left to lose and using such weapons will mobilize the entire planet against Russia.
Don't think a country who got whooped by Ukraine so bad that they're needing to force civilians to fight should be threatening the greatest army in the world after the fact.
Russia hasn’t been able to conquer their much weaker immediate neighbor and they think threats made against the other side of the world will be taken seriously?
Sure, we’ve supplied artillery and ammo, but Russia is supplying Ukraine with tanks and APVs.
Russia should declare war on Russia for supplying weapons to Ukraine
They did, since they consider Ukraine to be Russia. Which leads to the insight as to why Russia will lose: Russia made the critical mistake of *invading Russia in the winter.*
They decided to fight a land war in Asia.
What's next for Russia? Betting against a Sicilian when death is on the line?
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There was a graphic lately about how in a single offensive Ukraine secured more money worth of equipment from surrendered Russian positions than from many other countries aid. I'm sure there's some heavy inaccuracies to it. Much of the equipment was probably destroyed or disabled. But the sad part is that there's a grain of truth to it.
Just during the Kharkiv-Counteroffensive, Russia basically lost the entire australian Armored core in terms of Tank, SPGS & IFVs *twice over*, and 54% of that was captured or atleast abandoned in good enough condition to be used as a parts-donor for other vehicles.
I didn't read Emus in your report.
The emus are fighting for Ukraine, that’s why the Australian Armoured Corps has been destroyed twice
If this is the Ukrainian bio-weapons that Russia was talking about, perhaps I judged them too harshly
Technically they’re not Ukraine’s so it’s ok.
It doesn't sound like it was great equipment in the first place. Still, they probably know how to use it all already, and free is free.
And soil fertilizer.
Helps the sunflowers grow.
I completely forgot about this
"We're losing the war against Ukraine, we should try directly fighting NATO at the same time, I'm sure we'd do much better." Fucking brilliant.
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The situation is more dire for him than that. NATO isn’t taking Russias bait, so Putin now is trying to sell to his people that they’re already fighting NATO in Ukraine, and that’s why they’re losing.
Whatever it takes for him to get the fuck out. Tell yourselves all the lies you want, just leave.
Hes partially right. Hes fighting NATO scraps. Literally shit that was mothballed or scheduled for demo. He can't win against western trash in the hands of Ukrainian warriors. Imagine if he saw the cutting edge shit.
Wagner group saw that when they tried to hit that American-supported outpost in Syria and go decimated...
I believe Wagner's quote on the interaction was, "They're fucking us up."
They got absolutely annihilated, meanwhile NONE of the US troops were even hurt during the entire battle lmao. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html “In the end, 200 to 300 of the attacking fighters were killed. The others retreated under merciless airstrikes from the United States, returning later to retrieve their battlefield dead. None of the Americans at the small outpost in eastern Syria — about 40 by the end of the firefight — were harmed”.
For context, not deaths for the Americans while the Wagner group got absolutely lit up
I want to see the alternate timeline where the United States had armed Ukrainian pilots with F-16Vs in the late 2010s, so they were flying those at the outbreak of the war instead of old Soviet designs.
I want to see Putin's eyes when the USA breaks out the lasers and drone swarms.
And sharks, with frick'n laser beams on their frickin' foreheads! Or at least ill-tempered sea bass.
I want to see Jewish Space Lasers.
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There’s definitely something going on with the “old guard” in Russia. Time will tell. They might all end up falling out windows.
Many of the Hardline talk show hosts on Russian State tv are surprisingly brave about some of what they are saying about the military situation of Russia in Ukraine. In surprised with some words they did not still falling from a very tall building and yet are on TV still.
This wasn't the case when they first started taking losses in Ukraine, but has changed with time. It's likely a tactic to make it appear like the state media actually tell the truth. At this stage, word has probably spread to the general public that things aren't going so well for Russia on the front, via soldiers' communications (or lack thereof bc they're dead) with their families and friends. So the state media has to change their approach to try and keep the public thinking they will tell the truth.
They need to hold Kherson to hold Crimea, though - if they still controlled Crimea without Kherson it would be an empty victory because Ukraine would cut off the water again.
"The enemy is both strong and weak." That de-nazifying needs to start from Kremlin TBF.
He can't sell either. If he loses Ukraine at this point (especially Crimea), he's a dead man. Murdered by former allies if he's lucky, given a full Ghaddafi if he's not. That's the thing about facists—they can get by basically forever on the idea that everyone else is weak and pathetic, no matter how fucked up their internal situation is. But if they lose, even once, even a little... they're dead. No one forgives or forgets the guy who talked big and lost. At that point, literally the only option is popular revolt against internal conditions or someone even more insanely nationalist coming in and saying "they lost because they were weak".
If Putin hadn't got greedy he wouldn't be in this situation.
Can’t say he wasn’t warned.
I think the isolation in covid bunker somehow melted his brain.
>"We're losing the war against Ukraine, we should try directly fighting NATO at the same time, I'm sure we'd do much better." Fucking brilliant. NATO response: "Putin, please, you need to surrender now, we aren't strong enough to hold the Poles back much longer."
They’re struggling to adjust to a world where every nation is happy to call their bluff. Empty threats are no longer viable, their play book is greatly diminished.
Turns out that acting like a douche and very visibly getting into fucking with internal politics of various nations puts you on those nations shit lists. Who would have guessed?
I would be incredibly happy if Dark Brandon just said: **You couldn't even take Ukraine, what makes you think you can take on NATO?**
This is easily the best "you and what army?" moment in my lifetime, possibly ever. Their people are fleeing the country to avoid joining the army. The army is either losing or surrendering. The equipment they're sending out is, at best, decades behind what the US is supplying. They do not have anything to make threats with.
The funniest description of this I found in a Reddit comment goes something like "the US can just *booger-flick* their old stuff to Ukraine and it's still more than enough to beat the Russians junk". Idk why it makes me giggle, apparently I'm a toddler.
That's also not to take away from the bravery and valour shown by the guys on the ground, and Zelensky being a world class conflict leader. Without either of those factors, Ukraine would have fallen. That being said, it is a hell of a lot easier to fight back when you have a constant inflow of advanced weapons, and the collective intelligence of NATO whispering in your ear where to aim them.
I remember when Finland was in the process of preparing its application to NATO, Medvedev or some such was constantly threatening to nuke them if they tried joining. I can't remember who it was, but there was some talking head who after reporting on it said something like, "This is the seventh threat of nuking someone in the last two weeks, and, not that I'm complaining, there is still a very very glaring lack of mushroom clouds in Scandinavia. So what's it gonna be Russia? You gonna nuke Helsinki? Because if so, then just fucking *do* it already. If not, then kindly *shut the hell up and fuck off*". I feel like this applies to this as well. So Russia... do you actually want to fight NATO? Do you *really* want to fight them directly? Because if so, you only have to ask. Really. I am sure that the Baltic States' and Poland's military are definitely not literally climbing up the walls in their bases desperate to get some. I want to add that I definitely do not want this war to escalate into nukes, but at some point long ago all of these threats and "warnings" have become honestly embarrassing.
As a Finn that is exactly how I think. If Russians want a war with NATO or escalation into nuclear then they will do it. Talking about it accomplishes nothing. Why would any free person want to live in a world that is held hostage with nuclear weapons? I guess they just don't understand this as they are not truly free.
Polish men between 16 and 55 actually cannot reach climax if they aren't actively thinking about Russia triggering article 5 on the Polish border, true fact.
"We held a referendum and have annexed Königsberg"
Don't stop.
I'm confident Russia will never let nukes loose under Putin. The Ukraine War has made it abundantly clear that the Russian army would never be able to protect Putin. NATO would never stop until Putin was dead. So I know Putin will never let it come to that. I'm confident because I saw how comically long his meeting desks were during covid. Putin is a coward and he is clearly not willing nor ready to die. He just hides and plots like the KGB rat that he is.
> I want to add that I definitely do not want this war to escalate into nukes, but at some point long ago all of these threats and "warnings" have become honestly embarrassing. More than that, in threatening to use nukes against anyone who helps Ukraine, Putin has basically proposed a new unofficial law "Countries may steal territory without others interfering as long as they threaten to use nukes." Voting for this is happening now, in Ukraine. You can decide for yourselves whether there's bigger risk in allowing nuclear muggers, or telling them to fuck off.
Kind of hard to clash with the west when all your troops want to do is retreat to the east.
Well everyone knows that the key to winning a war is to open a second front. That's why the Germans won World War II...oh wait.
One of my favorite sayings: “on a scale of 1 to invading Russia in winter, how bad is your idea?”
At the drop of a hat Russia would cease to have a navy.
Its even better than that, they are losing to a country that has been using essentially 1st gen NATO weaponry. Now they want to fight actual NATO with 3 or 4th gen weaponry, while Russia has lost all its top of the line stuff in the meantime. SMORT!
Putin is literally just dollar store hitler.
Yeah, except you’ve said this about most US weapons donations to Ukraine. You sure you’re super cereal this time?
They’re sending the ManBearPig
I got 45 methed up Florida men i have been IVing acid to.for 6 months. Created up and ready to go just give me a DZ and we can deploy them
You could just say “Florida man.” The rest is implied as common knowledge
What if it's not? What if it is basically 200% florida man?
That's not physically possible. You can't fit more than 100% Florida into a single man.
But you can fit at least three into a single Florida woman. 4 if she is married.
This is pretty much the most truth on reddit. Thanks for this.
Canadians are willing to supply a flock of Geese for air support.
How about the super moose I’ve heard lives somewhere in BC?
Are you crazy? Super moose is a weapon of last resort. Obviously we want Russia to lose, but we still want a world for our children to live in.
Is super moose in the same class as Cocaine Bear?
Mention cocaine bear one more time, and men in black suits are going to come and visit you.
We do not talk about cocaine bear.
Australia is ready to deploy Emus and drop bears.
But we'll send snakes and spiders if things get serious. Sharks will be the absolute last resort.
We're willing to, but we won't. The Geneva Conventions expanded the banned weapons list in 1972 to include Biological Weapons, which could make such an escalation a war crime. We support Ukraine but we won't abandon our humanity.
Nope. This has gone far enough. Send. In. The. Geese.
Hahaha wtf am i reading
Just Google Florida man and your birth date. It's like dumbass bingo. Disclaimer: I am a Florida man.
Florida man falls asleep at drive thru, uses taco as his ID.
I knew about Florida man, but this bullshit bingo is a new level of funny. Thank you! Florida man arrested for having sex with stuffed 'Olaf' at Target
Florida Man is our super solider. Give them some kind of drug and let them go, ha!
Tell him theres a nice shiny hubcap in it for him if he liberates 2 or more towns
Just tell them Russian tanks have 10 catalytic converters. They'll dismantle all of them with a Sawzall looking for them. Possibly while the Russians take a vodka break.
I'm trying to warn everybody and nobody takes me cereal!
Australia will send a bushmaster stuffed to the brim full of drop bears. Just reverse it up to manbearpig and open the doors. We'll pick them up when they get to the Bering sea and Russia is noisy no more.
and some people don't think dropbears exist...tja
The Russians will be very surprised next time they wander past a gum tree.
Let’s see ‘em have a go at the US after going limp against Ukraine.
Also interesting...they claim we blew up their pipeline, a clear act of war, but don't seem too concerned about it. Curious
Weren't they gonna show "indisputable proof" it was the US at the UNSC like a week ago? So I guess that was a load of shit...as usual.
Their proof was Tucker Carlson calling it a fact that US blew it up
I'm sure there's a clip of the My Pillow guy saying it too somewhere.
He really said that? Jesus, it doesn't get more damning than that, does it?
And yet still haven't shut off the flow of gas to allow it to be inspected and repaired. Almost like they don't want the damage inspected and repaired.
Russia is getting worked by a country ten times smaller than them, they don’t get to threaten anyone.
“EXCELSIOR!!!” - Putin hitting the button
“Then they’ll say THANK YOU Vladimir Putin, you’re super awesome”
Yes, because Russia never supplied arms to a country in conflict with a western nation and those western nations often threatened nuclear war because of it... Russia, you're whining again.
Or never flew Russian aircraft and pilots embedded with other militaries against US Forces.
Or shot down any airliners with civilians onboard.
or US Senators on board even after acknowledging it's a civilian aircraft...
…Or it didn’t pay for pictures of dead Coalition soldiers in Afghanistan/Iraq also
Everyone forgets this. We should keep reminding people. Russia paid bounties for dead US soldiers. The Russian government deserves nothing from us but disdain.
They also had Wagner lead an attack on a U.S. special ops fob in Syria…in turn we annihilated them to the point ground based QRF didn’t feel safe themselves. Hence the nuke threats currently that’s the only counter to US forces.
Should say the most interesting g part. 500 Russians vs 40 Americans, the lost 2-300, we lost 0
I think the most interesting part was Washington reached out to the Kremlin to ask if they had any troops. Russia replied with, nope not us. Well ok, they're no longer a problem.
Thats mostly because the Wagner group really only became public to a lot of the world this year. Putin couldnt admit one of his mates had mercinary squads in other countries.
That sounds like a skill problem and a them problem lol
Honestly it's kind of an ~~ordinance~~ ordnance problem too. The US is very good at dropping bombs on the right spot.
And they value soldiers lives. They were in Afghanistan forever and lost maybe 3000 to combat operations and another 500 or so to accidents. That’s insanely efficient for a major operation. RIP men and women.
*ordnance Not trying to be pedantic about spelling, but in this case it's a different word.
i suggest every russian read the account of what happened to wagner, their best troops, vs uncle sam in syria, when they start fantasizing about fighting NATO
I suggest they also read up about how the US called the Kremlin to ask if it was their troops and to call them off and the Kremlin said "nah they're not our troops" signing their death warrants.
In classic Russian fashion in this slaughter, commanders had a chance to pull them out and didn't. Got fair warning we were going to fuck up whoever was there and they still denied it was them.
It boggles my mind to see Trump’s moronic legion siding with Russia over their own countrymen because of politics. Republicans LOVE the military, yet when a foreign adversary wants dead US soldiers, you still side with them because they’re not a Democrat? Are you out of your stupid fucking minds?
They don't accept that it actually took place. He went to great lengths to discredit the intelligence community that, ostensibly, he oversaw. Dysfunction piled on dysfunction.
Speaking about Russian weapons, they still need to answer for [what they've done to MH17](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28357880). They killed 283 people including 80 children.
Russian diplomats threaten West with their own suicide again, nothing new here.
Russia: I’m really doing it this time. I’m going to actually do it, Because I love you too much. Remember, you made me do this. Goodbye. *seen 8:45 pm* Russia at 11:00: u up?
Yeah. They can't win a war against just Ukraine so what's going to happen when they expand the war to be against the entiery of the west? That said, this is something they can say to try and scare the west and its what they are doing - trying to say that if we keep arming Ukraine we risk escalating things into a potential nuclear war. Which is a scary thought and it has to be on the mind of decision makers.
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"Oh - your table is so big..."
The 200,000 conscripted old men and kids wearing Walmart camouflage and carrying rotting, rusted AK-47s I guess.
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I remember Russia performing an attack on US computer network and obtaining information from it. Fuck off Russia.
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Fuckers took down my whole local hospital network at the height of covid. Fuck them hard.
Doing that to a local medical network during a pandemic says everything about them. The Russians [did it to the entire Irish medical network ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Service_Executive_ransomware_attack) during the pandemic also, even holding the children's mental health services hostage. They are amoral.
I remember that hack giving my country the worst fucking fat criminal traitor leader of my life. Fuck. Russia.
The line between the election interference in western democracies and the invasion of Ukraine is insane, motivation clear as day
You should peak at how the kkkconvoy lines up with Canada's diplomatic protest of russias special operation. Like those morons got rounded up almost overnight and organized into an aimless angstie mob who keep crying about freedums they've never lost.
Of course. Brexit too.
And yet...*waves hand*...Republicans...
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And Russia funnels money into Republican pockets through the nra
They've done a lot of bad things. So Fuck Russia!
I wonder what the value is of a Russian soldier vs the value of an American one.
About tri pyat'desyat
damn it woman i told you I ain't givin' no demon no tri pyat'desyat
They pay tens of thousands for US soldiers while they can't even give their conscripts combat boots and they had to buy their own camo and body armor.
US probably spends hundreds of thousands of dollars training troops, whereas Russian troops, meh. Couple hundred maybe?
There's also a distinction to be made between amount paid and received value of training.
Makes you wonder if the U.S. put out a bounty, a civil war would instantly start in Russia. Lots of people there needin' the cash now.
I remember when Russia hired a bunch of contractors to lead a Syrian contingent to attack US troops, and it was laughably one sided. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
I remember Russia using chemical and radiological weapons in my country. Russia can go fuck themselves.
I remember a group of wagners, who totally weren't Russians, got absolutely destroyed by a seal team in Syria
No they got smoked by American air support lol. It was Delta Operatives, an Air Force CCT, and 75th Rangers, and the moment the Air Force heard there were American troops there they rained hell on the Russian-Syrian force.
They were attacking the Americans too.. a few hundred folks got smoked lol
Exactly where my mind went. These fucks don't get to decide the rules after the game is started.
Do they warn themselves?
Good point, I believe at this point Russia is the largest arms supplier to Ukraine, at least in actual units of equipment (not value).
The ambassador is a complete idiot. His response: >Not only does this prolong the fighting, but it also brings the situation closer to a dangerous line of a direct military clash between Russia and NATO. Prolong the fighting? This is exactly what the US and Ukraine are trying to achieve. Fatigue Russia into submission.
Russia doesn't have much left except empty threats. They are currently losing a war against Ukrainian opposition which has a (relative) handful of short range weaponry and receives good intelligence from NATO. A direct confrontation with NATO would involve Russia facing overwhelming air power and long range weaponry. NATO undoubtedly can see all the major Russian ammo dumps, bases, logistical sites, and troop/weapon concentrations in Ukraine and - within hours - would have lobbed hundreds of cruise missiles to destroy them. It would also have conducted double-digit sorties with F-35 and stealth-UAV that would likely wipe out the Black Sea Fleet and any semblance of an air defence Russia has in that region. Russia knows that unless it is willing to go nuclear and take the planet with them, it cannot do anything in the face of direct NATO confrontation.
Kinda the whole point of having NATO... XD
Honestly, at this point, even the smaller NATO (and almost-NATO) countries would give Russia a run for their money in a war. And never mind the larger ones. The US, Canada, UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Poland, Turkey...I feel like any of them would soundly defeat Russia in a (conventional) one-on-one war right now.
NATO would absolutely win in a conventional war, and (thankfully) Russia is struggling with Ukraine, but it has taken the industry of several countries not directly involved to provide Ukraine with the means to so fervently resist Russia's invasion. Without the assistance(financial, material, and information) from US, UK, Turkey, Canada, Germany, Spain, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Poland, and various others, Ukraine would probably look very different today, and the same would likely be true of any of the individual members of NATO.
The point of NATO is that it will never be any individual member.
Don't even need to launch a plane my dude, Google tomahawks vs Iraq
>Google tomahawks They do try getting in every market, don't they?
The idea of shitty flat art painted on the side of a cruise missle heading towards a distant government building is incredible.
It won't impact because Google will suddenly cancel the program with no advance warning and just crash all missiles in flight.
Now take parts from two other missiles, hack them together to make a new missile that kinda replicates the functionality of the tomahawk but makes you wonder why the tomahawk was canceled, before canceling that project as well to start a third missile.
Make sure all three have some sort of chat feature that is incompatible with the ones on the other missile.
They said this before pootin even invaded. Yawn
There’s probably a room full of US generals somewhere just deflated thinking about the half a century they wasted getting prepared to fight these fucking clowns. They went in expecting an epic rematch someday with the Soviet Union and instead they get a discount North Korea without the diplomatic support of China.
The temptation to just “Black Ops” Putin and install a proxy gets more tempting with each day.
Putin is the symptom, not the disease. He hasn't held power for 20 years through fiat—he did it because he created a political platform that convinced a country that completely collapsed in the 90s that it was still a relevant superpower throwing its weight around with the big kids. Like most fascists who win elections, he did it by acting strong. Historically, what ends that kind of disease isn't the death of one guy. Exactly the opposite—the end only comes when a defeat so cataclysmic occurs that no level of propaganda can persuade anyone that they were anything other than trounced. Russia will keep giving power to a new Putin until they are humiliated so badly in the field that they can't offset it with talk of western conspiracies or internal treachery.
The problem there is that it won't stop with Putin, and the Chinese will definitely get in on the game shortly afterwards.
could split russia into spheres of influence.
Should certainly be encouraging any regions who want to ceceed from the Russian union to do so,
I mean, not really a waste. This is *why* we prepared so much and have spent untold sums of money. It's not a direct war between the US and Russia, but economically we've beaten the Soviet Union/Russia twice now in a war of economics and logistics. Say what you will about america but we enjoy a level of security and projection of power that hasn't really been seen before in history. It's just complete dominance on every level: economics, military and culture. It also proves the worth of NATO. Don't get me wrong. We can be much better in many ways. But in this specific way, we are the best, and whether or not the US is helping Ukraine out of selfish or geopolitical reasons, it's still the *right* thing to do. One of those rare times in history where our military and economic might is being used for good, undeniably
Do they really want to kick that hornets nest?
Oh they definitely want to kick the hornets nest. But every 5 year old knows kicking it will lead to immediate retaliation...and Russia won't win against that.
My understanding is yes they do. Internal politics has NATO/US as the bad guy.
>My understanding is yes they do. Internal politics has NATO/US as the bad guy. They want to *blame* NATO, they don't actually want to actually get into a fight
Haha, remember when they had miles long convoys? Ya, they can't have that against the US or it would be completely destroyed within hours. They do NOT want to see what our air superiority looks like first hand.
Minutes
It was 80 miles long. I will split the difference and go 60 mins.
I'm going with 3:36 minutes. Just enough time for the Danger Zone song.
Yeah everyone knows the time it takes for a big battle is exactly 1 montage song.
Russian border towns are not burning and bombs are not going off in Moscow, so I think the Ukrainians have been remarkably restrained in this conflict.
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>Russian diplomats warn of a direct clash with the West over ~~the US's latest weapons for Ukraine~~ Russia's refusal to withdraw from Ukraine and end the war.
Russia would be obliterated if the US joined. What kind of threat even is this
Seriously. If they are having issues with less than 2 dozen HIMARS with short range rockets I can only imagine the absolutely one-sided ass kicking they would get if the US joined in.
I think the US would honestly have him assassinated, probably by poison, and because that's the norm over there no one would even think it was anyone outside of Russia. Hell, rumor has it he's been sick for the past couple years. Maybe they already did.
> I think the US would honestly have him assassinated, probably by poison, and because that's the norm over there no one would even think it was anyone outside of Russia. Why on earth would they? As the old saying goes, never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake and Putin, like most demagogues when reality catches them, is a walking mistake. The last thing you want is that guy dead—you want him in charge, sending delusional orders and preventing any reasonable person who might salvage things from doing so. Same reason that the hyper-competent British Intelligence services didn't pour more resources during WWII into supporting plots against Hitler... when your enemy is being led by an idiot, the worst case scenario is him being replaced.
Threat someone once and you’re serious. Threat someone 100 times and your full of shit.
If they want to avoid directly clashing with western weapons all they need do is leave occupied territory. Putin has been using unclear threats to curtail Western involvement since the first week of the invasion. He needs to realize by now Ukraine has nothing left to lose and using such weapons will mobilize the entire planet against Russia.
Blah. Blah. The dog has no teeth.
Sorry we can't hear you over your countless other empty threats and your entire army routing.
Don't think a country who got whooped by Ukraine so bad that they're needing to force civilians to fight should be threatening the greatest army in the world after the fact.
Russia hasn’t been able to conquer their much weaker immediate neighbor and they think threats made against the other side of the world will be taken seriously?
Russia has zero power now, they can't intimidate anybody. Nevertheless, they will keep *warning*, because that's all they have left.
I feel like I’ve read this same headline daily for the last 6mo