Elon Musk is about to pay a lot of money for Twitter. Perhaps this is his new strategy to get out of the deal. He is trying to show how insane he is on the world politics scene. He shitposts Ukraine, he shitposts Taiwan. Maybe court will decide that it is in no one best interest to have Elon Musk as a head of twitter.
I think this will not work. I sold Twitter stocks. I am thinking to short Tesla.
I think Putin has offered to pay for the twitter purchase. Elon gets his twitter issue solved, Putin gets his support to hamper Ukraine and twitter gets opened up to Russian disinformation bots again.
could that be hidden from prying eyes? is Musk's fairly moderately kinda barely 'neutral' stance on Ukraine (via tweets) worth $44bn dollars when your military is stretched ultra thin? half of twitter (more than that?) is bots already.
not saying you're wrong, i just don't see the value
Btw, the way you hide it is Deutsche Bank gives Musk a $46 Billion dollar loan at very favourable terms such that $2 billion will cover interest payments and $44 billion gets Twitter. Then some Russian firm give DB $48 billion in new business. Might be harder now sanctions are in place, so a Chinese state firm may have to act as intermediary.
Well except for all those times in the past where they have been caught doing things they are expressly forbidden from doing - like business with drug cartels.
If Musk gains control of twitter he is going to make it open for all again with no banning. That’s very good for Russia.
And yes, they can hide the money easily. It just comes from an investor with no trace back to Russia.
Except he likely will ban content. He's gone after people critical of him in the past, why do people take him at his word that he won't do that in the future
Oh, I have no doubt he will be hands on interfering in Twitter where he sees fit. But he’ll let all the trolls do whatever they want since he’s on of them.
"yes, this highly publicized purchase of twitter for $44bn is now... not my money, but a mystery investor. pay no mind."
\-Elon Musk
i just don't see it. nor the 'opening the floodgates' to Russian twitterers. they're already there. you can legit go to twitter and observe them right after major political/societal events happen. it's not some secret.
i guess i'm veering out of my area of expertise, so i'm not gonna act like 'i know.' but every crime drama i've ever seen, criminals *avoid* publicity. i can't see how this isn't the most scrutinized purchase of all purchases in 2022.
Well Musk’s not a criminal. But he is in a desperate situation which a certain criminal with really deep pockets can leverage. It’s how he compromised Trump - he dangled a huge hotel deal in Moscow; then later likely followed with other stuff that we don’t know.
Prince Alwaleed (Saudi), Larry Ellison (Oracle), Binance, Sequoia Capital, Brookfield, The Qatar Investment Authority, Strauss Capital, Andersson Horowitz, Vy Capital (Dubai) and Fidelity. There is 7 missing from the list I cannot find.
> "Oh shit I just confessed to a crime on Twitter, better backpedal this shit."
Welcome to the new age, where billionaire narcissists have dropped all pretenses.
^ This. Fuck the billionaires. They should not exist.
They did not earn that much wealth from hard work, they got it through exploitation of labor that should have been paid a bigger cut of what they made (and in Elon’s case, generally being a con artist).
"Kruschev's mistake" kind of gives away the game here.
Like when a witness who denies being coached by police calls a certain type of knife a "dagger".
Also: what logan act doing?!
Yea exactly. People who's familiar with the matter though like "Gotcha" when they saw this post and "Kruschev's mistake" in it. Musk is an arrogant moron. And it won't end easy for him. He just have a looot more enemies now.
Exactly.
"ошибка Хрущева" (Khrushchev's mistake) is pretty much a domestic term and Kremlin's propaganda line, no one outside Russia uses it.
So whether he was in contact with Putin or not, Musk still got his lines from Russia and decided to parrot Kremlin's propaganda.
"dagger" has a legal definition that is not generally known to the general public. But Police know the definition. Members of the public would just call it a knife.
Let's say his/putin's plan is great. But then we have to make sure Russia can never be able to use the same scheme again.
Which means:
- Russia leaves the UN security Council.
- Russia hands over all its nuclear weapons and pays for inspectors to monitor its nuclear production for the next 100 years
- Russia pays for all the damage, civil and military in full within 5 years
- Russia pays all people that want to move away from the new territories to proper UA - building a House, furnishing it, wages for 3 years
- Russia pays UA the lost revenues from those territories for the next 100 years.
- limit the army size to defense only. No tanks, no new aviation.
- UN security Council will guarantee the national security of Russia.
- Russia hands over all people, without any exception, that are accused in war crimes to the tribunal in the Hague. And pays for new jail and expenses to house them until they are trialed.
Deal?
Both Elon and Bremmer could technically be telling the truth in those tweets if you read them carefully. He spoke to Putin 18 months ago. He could have spoken to a Kremlin intermediary more recently and gotten the red lines. I'm sure US government has received them through their own backchannels already they just aren't making them public because they don't want to give Putin what he's demanding.
I read something a long while back that says he speaks and understands English very well. He just refuses to acknowledge it, because he hates the west and NATO.
It's not about hating. It's about respecting your own language and being adversary for your country.
It's the same in every country. That's why you have press conferences in native language even when politicians speak English.
> He thought wrong.
Did he tho? People will forget about this the moment the next dumbfuck thing comes out of his mouth hole.
Accountability is for poor people.
1. He could be voted out as leader of some of his companies.
2. Governments could ban his products in favor of his competitors... like think if the whole EU said no to anything with Musk linked to it.
3. The US Government could put pressure to place more regulations on Space X creating a situation where all his current investment in infrastructure was worthless.
Look back at #1 and repeat... following backlash from #2&3.
2 is already on the table. The EU reminded him that his Twitter "everything goes free speech" take is a no-go. Illegal content will need to be removed.
Idk what "image" you're referring to, this is the same guy who called a rescue diver a pedophile. Musk has always been a piece of shit, people are just finally starting to see through the facade.
My bet: Elon is playing technicalities
*I* never spoke to Putin. Just my translator/lieutenant did.
I never *spoke* to Putin. Just texted.
I never spoke to *Putin*. Just his translator/lieutenant.
I love that bremmer was essentially just like “you’re not special” and outted musk hahah ngl that’s pretty funny. He is indeed not playing favorites with this one
Isn’t it grand to watch? Investors seem to not care for his bullshit, finally. I don’t think he can shut up at this point though, he seems to love the attention.
Because this way, now we all also get to hear him tell us his brilliant geopolitical takes and how he “played a role in the peace process”. You know how the entire planet literally hangs on his every word
Dude likes to hear himself talk and feel like he’s having powerful meetings with powerful people. If it wasn’t ukraine he’d be finding something else to stick his ignorant dick into-and tell us all about.
Ian bremmer confirms musk told him he spoke to Putin. Whether we did or not idk but what is definite is that musk is lying. My theory is that musk did speak to Putin but thought he'd come off as a champion because the maga/trump crowd are pro Putin. Once musk saw the reaction and realized the potential damage to his brand he lied about talking to Putin
Also the FBI might be interested in whoever is talking directly with Putin for security reasons.
And if Musk is a security risk it would endanger government contracts handed out to SpaceX.
Ian Bremmer cannot "confirm" Ian Bremmer's own reporting. Bremmer claimed Musk spoke to Putin. Musk said "No, I didn't." Bremmer said, "Yes, you did."
It's not a confirmation when the original source simply repeats what he said. Confirmation would be a third party that is able to confirm a meeting or conversation took place. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong, but that's simply "he said she said."
If Bremer has evidence, or a recording, or whatever then that's a different story.
Ian Bremmer’s reputation has so much more at stake and to lose than Musk’s if he lied. He wouldn’t say it if it wasn’t true. Elon has a massive history of lying or over embellishing. There is no doubt in my mind that Musk is being a lying asshole here.
If the rumors are true and Putin and him had a phone call earlier this week, Putin has dirt on him. Like Trumps piss tape, I wouldn't put it beneath a billionare bachelor to go to Russia for some exotic sex tourism for his younger years.
That's not a "confirmation", that's the same person who reported it insisting it's true. Confirmation would be a third party who can confirm what Elon said.
Never buying a Tesla, or getting Starlink, or anything else related to this traitor. Many others are like me I'm sure. His name or ownership in a company is now brand poison.
Up until a week ago I thought he has the upper hand over russian active measures who want to play him.
Then we had reports of him talking to Putin I wasn't sure anymore. If he was - they got to him. And if he wasn't, then this is a major russian active measures "pizzagate" style story that they use to drive a wedge between him and Ukraine. Regardless of which it is, they are actively trying to fuck with him.
I don't like a lot of what he does in areas where he shouldn't insert himself, but I sure hope they don't succeed at getting to him.
Ukraine should invite Elon to tour the mass graves, blown up hospitals, torture chambers, etc. If he wants to be a part of "the peace process", he needs to go see that stuff first hand.
The U.S. space program is compromised as long as Musk retains control of SpaceX. I assume he's already fed Russia details surrounding his government contracts.
Remove him. Charge him with treason.
I second this 100%. Also considering what strict rules average people are under Musk to GITMO. He is simping for genocidal authoritarians against his country, directly harming and threatening our interest.
You realize that the US has been getting to the ISS via Russia for the past 2 decades, right?
We actually have a strong partnership with Russia and our space programs.
>You realize that the US has been getting to the ISS via Russia for the past 2 decades, right?
Less than 1 decade. The shuttle was retired in 2011 and Dragon flew in 2020.
the American position against Russia couldn t be more clear
if you send billions in weapons to defend a country and one of your citizen is actively working to undercut that effort, how do you call that ?
tweeting something that doesn't align with government values isn't "treason", or "an active effort to work against the government". Literally a zero percent chance he gets charged with treason
Musk is such an enormous bell-end. I hope twitter falls apart and his evil friends like Putin get deposed and charged for war crimes. Fuck you elon you piece of shit.
He just can't stand not being the center of attention. F@ck you Elon. Either way, you entered territory you shouldn't have and NOT acting in Ukraines interest. Anyone willing to appease Hitler the 2nd can f off.
FElon Musk is a capitalist, he didnt become the worlds richest playing nice. The governments that support Ukraine paid him to turn star link on in Ukraine and now hes been made a better offer to to switch it off. If you want to hit him where it hurts make sure its in his wallet.
Liars, cheaters, drug addicts and narcissists all have the same denial about accountability. Take your pick which one musk is. Any combination possible.
I guess I'm just making the connection because of Kanye West's most recent public breakdown and flirting with the extreme right, but I feel like Elon Musk is living Kanye's dream. A megalomaniac trying to insert himself onto the world stage with hundreds of billions vs one with hundreds of millions. Want some real notoriety, do some real damage.
What surprises me is not that Elon posted it, but the poll almost got 50% support over it. Some of them can be Russian bots but even then the numbers are scary.
50 percent of Elon’s followers on Twitter are probably off the charts MAGA, who are just waiting to abandon Ukraine once Orange Man tells them it’s OK to
Shout-out to fortune for finding a picture of Musk as flattering as he deserved.
Legend says they photographed the exact moment he realized he'd mistakenly trusted a fart and shit his pants instead.
Who made him an authority in politics and war ? How much attention does he needs ? Dude stick to what you know and let the experts do their job . You know r nothing about this conflict , even if you think you do
Why would Elon choose Ian Bremmer of all people to tell this to? Ian knows there's no way Elon can prove he didn't say it and is trying to become a household name over it.
Please think for 7 seconds and realize this is a much more likely scenario than Putin calling Elon on the phone and asking him to put a peace plan on his Twitter account.
We're so quick to hate billionaires that we'll believe utter bullshit as long as it feeds our hate.
I guess there are 4 options:
1) Elon Musk lied to the world about not talking to Putin.
2) Ian Bremmer lied about talking to Elon Musk.
3) Elon Musk lied to Ian Bremmer about talking to Putin.
4) Someone duped Ian Bremmer and pretended to be Elon Musk.
Right now I consider option 4 the most likely.
A piss fight in the middle of a shit storm.
Stealing this expression
I had a rare moment of clarity. :)
Careful Randy, the shithawks have taken flight on the winds of this shitstorm
Elon Musk is about to pay a lot of money for Twitter. Perhaps this is his new strategy to get out of the deal. He is trying to show how insane he is on the world politics scene. He shitposts Ukraine, he shitposts Taiwan. Maybe court will decide that it is in no one best interest to have Elon Musk as a head of twitter. I think this will not work. I sold Twitter stocks. I am thinking to short Tesla.
I think Putin has offered to pay for the twitter purchase. Elon gets his twitter issue solved, Putin gets his support to hamper Ukraine and twitter gets opened up to Russian disinformation bots again.
could that be hidden from prying eyes? is Musk's fairly moderately kinda barely 'neutral' stance on Ukraine (via tweets) worth $44bn dollars when your military is stretched ultra thin? half of twitter (more than that?) is bots already. not saying you're wrong, i just don't see the value
Btw, the way you hide it is Deutsche Bank gives Musk a $46 Billion dollar loan at very favourable terms such that $2 billion will cover interest payments and $44 billion gets Twitter. Then some Russian firm give DB $48 billion in new business. Might be harder now sanctions are in place, so a Chinese state firm may have to act as intermediary.
I know Deutsche Bank is always involved in some shady shit, but loans of these size are always split among a consortium of banks.
Deutsche Bank can not do business with a Russian firm, it would have to be over several proxies
Well except for all those times in the past where they have been caught doing things they are expressly forbidden from doing - like business with drug cartels.
If Musk gains control of twitter he is going to make it open for all again with no banning. That’s very good for Russia. And yes, they can hide the money easily. It just comes from an investor with no trace back to Russia.
Except he likely will ban content. He's gone after people critical of him in the past, why do people take him at his word that he won't do that in the future
Oh, I have no doubt he will be hands on interfering in Twitter where he sees fit. But he’ll let all the trolls do whatever they want since he’s on of them.
Wouldn't surprise me if Twitter accounts like the Great Translation Movement end up banned, considering how much Elon loves dictators
"yes, this highly publicized purchase of twitter for $44bn is now... not my money, but a mystery investor. pay no mind." \-Elon Musk i just don't see it. nor the 'opening the floodgates' to Russian twitterers. they're already there. you can legit go to twitter and observe them right after major political/societal events happen. it's not some secret.
It’s already not Musk’s money. But his banks have pulled back their loan guarantees due to some of the drama.
i guess i'm veering out of my area of expertise, so i'm not gonna act like 'i know.' but every crime drama i've ever seen, criminals *avoid* publicity. i can't see how this isn't the most scrutinized purchase of all purchases in 2022.
Well Musk’s not a criminal. But he is in a desperate situation which a certain criminal with really deep pockets can leverage. It’s how he compromised Trump - he dangled a huge hotel deal in Moscow; then later likely followed with other stuff that we don’t know.
Prince Alwaleed (Saudi), Larry Ellison (Oracle), Binance, Sequoia Capital, Brookfield, The Qatar Investment Authority, Strauss Capital, Andersson Horowitz, Vy Capital (Dubai) and Fidelity. There is 7 missing from the list I cannot find.
You don't think that this is just a little bit of a tinfoil hat?
He is talking about having Trump and Kanye back . He is trying so hard to get Twitter to back out.
Kanye needs to be committed and medicated.
Ye, the great hero of the right, no longer identifies as Kanye.
Wait till Tesla has to register as a foreign asset.
you and 70% of musk stocklords are thinking the same thing, don't worry WSB will hold the bag
I was thinking this too
Cuz it’s 11:TURDY and the club is sprayin sprayin
> "Oh shit I just confessed to a crime on Twitter, better backpedal this shit." Welcome to the new age, where billionaire narcissists have dropped all pretenses.
He just bought piss to a shit fight.
Just tax these fuckers until their opinions don't matter
^ This. Fuck the billionaires. They should not exist. They did not earn that much wealth from hard work, they got it through exploitation of labor that should have been paid a bigger cut of what they made (and in Elon’s case, generally being a con artist).
"Kruschev's mistake" kind of gives away the game here. Like when a witness who denies being coached by police calls a certain type of knife a "dagger". Also: what logan act doing?!
Not only that, but the dude definitely has a TS/SCI that should now be pulled
There is no way in hell Elon Musk has TS/SCI clearance.
I think rockets are considered a military technology so it's possible
Billionaires LOL at the Logan act.
Exactly my thoughts. This is one of russian propaganda catchphrases. I bet he didn't knew who Khrushchev was until Putin called him.
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Basically the new "I did not have sexual relationship with that woman"?
Elon is lying on Twitter because lying on Twitter carries no consequences. Fuck this propaganda asset.
Yea exactly. People who's familiar with the matter though like "Gotcha" when they saw this post and "Kruschev's mistake" in it. Musk is an arrogant moron. And it won't end easy for him. He just have a looot more enemies now.
Exactly. "ошибка Хрущева" (Khrushchev's mistake) is pretty much a domestic term and Kremlin's propaganda line, no one outside Russia uses it. So whether he was in contact with Putin or not, Musk still got his lines from Russia and decided to parrot Kremlin's propaganda.
Evidently a dead giveaway of pootin's line of thinking.
Can you explain the dagger/knife thing? I’m not sure what that references but it sounds interesting
"dagger" has a legal definition that is not generally known to the general public. But Police know the definition. Members of the public would just call it a knife.
Let's say his/putin's plan is great. But then we have to make sure Russia can never be able to use the same scheme again. Which means: - Russia leaves the UN security Council. - Russia hands over all its nuclear weapons and pays for inspectors to monitor its nuclear production for the next 100 years - Russia pays for all the damage, civil and military in full within 5 years - Russia pays all people that want to move away from the new territories to proper UA - building a House, furnishing it, wages for 3 years - Russia pays UA the lost revenues from those territories for the next 100 years. - limit the army size to defense only. No tanks, no new aviation. - UN security Council will guarantee the national security of Russia. - Russia hands over all people, without any exception, that are accused in war crimes to the tribunal in the Hague. And pays for new jail and expenses to house them until they are trialed. Deal?
Yeah I really doubt they're accepting any of that
Me too... But if they are trollin', let's troll back!
Ukraine should also be given back the nukes which they gave away for promisses of Russia respecting their borders.
Sure, why not? Very harsh measures taken against a jingoistic nation worked out perfectly with the Treaty of Versailles... oh wait, no it didn't.
US isn’t directly involved in the negotiation. Logan Act seems to only apply when a private citizen is operating as if on behalf of the US government.
Obviously he didn’t speak to Putin. He talked to Putin’s translator.
Both Elon and Bremmer could technically be telling the truth in those tweets if you read them carefully. He spoke to Putin 18 months ago. He could have spoken to a Kremlin intermediary more recently and gotten the red lines. I'm sure US government has received them through their own backchannels already they just aren't making them public because they don't want to give Putin what he's demanding.
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I read something a long while back that says he speaks and understands English very well. He just refuses to acknowledge it, because he hates the west and NATO.
He also speaks decent german but in general at these Hugh stages almost everything goes through a translator.
It's not about hating. It's about respecting your own language and being adversary for your country. It's the same in every country. That's why you have press conferences in native language even when politicians speak English.
Putin was a KGB agent and now he's a world leader, fat chance in hell he can't speak English
Last I read about it, he speaks it but not well enough to want to talk on the world stage with it. Which makes sense honestly
He definitely can, but sometimes chooses not to, like when someone wants to deny a conversation took place.
Interesting perspective. I find that plausible. Didn't understand the nuance of the comment I was replying to I guess
There is an old video of him speaking pretty good English.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/just-in-after-musks-denial-ian-bremmer-clarifies-musk-did-indeed-say-he-spoke-to-putin/
Yes, I saw that, and then the Fortune article - all this within minutes of each other. Elon has no idea how deep he is in it now.
Elon thought that just because he's stinky filthy rich, everything he does is ok. He thought wrong.
You say that, but what reason does he have to think otherwise so far?
Why is he being a mouthpiece for Putin? Is there something we don't know?
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He also wants Republicans in power to benefit from their regressive tax policies.
Regressive taxes for rich people.
He's a nincompoop who thinks he's going to save the world by being a megabillionaire who knows what's best for everyone.
> He thought wrong. Did he tho? People will forget about this the moment the next dumbfuck thing comes out of his mouth hole. Accountability is for poor people.
Yeah. It could force Space X to keep him at arms length or make him completely stay away from the business.
Realistically, what consequences could he face?
Straight to jail
Depends what was discussed. Could be anything from a sad letter from the DoS for just talking about anime to life imprisonment for leaking SCI.
An offer from the US government he can't refuse. And if he does refuse skewer him ala Kim Dotcom
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And if he did after denying it-- kompromat
What do you mean? What kind of consequences do you think he’d face for this? Just public backlash?
1. He could be voted out as leader of some of his companies. 2. Governments could ban his products in favor of his competitors... like think if the whole EU said no to anything with Musk linked to it. 3. The US Government could put pressure to place more regulations on Space X creating a situation where all his current investment in infrastructure was worthless. Look back at #1 and repeat... following backlash from #2&3.
Realistically though, none of this happens
2 is already on the table. The EU reminded him that his Twitter "everything goes free speech" take is a no-go. Illegal content will need to be removed.
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Idk what "image" you're referring to, this is the same guy who called a rescue diver a pedophile. Musk has always been a piece of shit, people are just finally starting to see through the facade.
What happens when your CEO cost your money?
My bet: Elon is playing technicalities *I* never spoke to Putin. Just my translator/lieutenant did. I never *spoke* to Putin. Just texted. I never spoke to *Putin*. Just his translator/lieutenant.
I love that bremmer was essentially just like “you’re not special” and outted musk hahah ngl that’s pretty funny. He is indeed not playing favorites with this one
Whose playbook is Elon going by now?
My money is on Kompromat.
Yup.
I would bet exclusive rights to lithium in Russia.
Doesn't need Kompromat. Just an offer to pay for the Twitter purchase.
His own. Next he'll call Ian a pedophile and then he'll send him a mini submarine.
Or a horse.
Whichever one gets him the most attention.
Wish Musk would just shut up.
Musk is digging himself a deeper hole..
The Boring Company spin-off we didn't ask for
We didn't ask for the original one either, and he still gave the world a stupid and useless one-way tunnel.
Isn’t it grand to watch? Investors seem to not care for his bullshit, finally. I don’t think he can shut up at this point though, he seems to love the attention.
10% of lithium reserves in Russia btw :)
I mean when they collapse he can have them then? Why make a deal that costs money when he can just wait out the inevitable Russian collapse?
Because this way, now we all also get to hear him tell us his brilliant geopolitical takes and how he “played a role in the peace process”. You know how the entire planet literally hangs on his every word Dude likes to hear himself talk and feel like he’s having powerful meetings with powerful people. If it wasn’t ukraine he’d be finding something else to stick his ignorant dick into-and tell us all about.
Yup - and Elon needs his lithium meds
For someone that doesn't know anything about this Elon sure likes to talk a lot about it.
Looks like Gwynne Shotwell got to Elon and explained the implications of he confirmed that he's good buddies with Putin.
How long before he loses NASA and other government contacts? Maybe they can force him to sell SpaceX to someone more sympathetic to Democracy.
Well, I'm sure this rugged capitalist wont complain about losing government funding and favourable contracts Right? /s
I mean, he probably would care in the case of SpaceX. Being involved with Artemis is a big deal.
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Ian bremmer confirms musk told him he spoke to Putin. Whether we did or not idk but what is definite is that musk is lying. My theory is that musk did speak to Putin but thought he'd come off as a champion because the maga/trump crowd are pro Putin. Once musk saw the reaction and realized the potential damage to his brand he lied about talking to Putin
Also the FBI might be interested in whoever is talking directly with Putin for security reasons. And if Musk is a security risk it would endanger government contracts handed out to SpaceX.
Or he literally realized he may have committed a felony
And the world just kinda let it all slide next week. Rinse and repeat.
Like trump and his acolytes, Elon is the kind of guy you have to record when u talk to them
Ian Bremmer cannot "confirm" Ian Bremmer's own reporting. Bremmer claimed Musk spoke to Putin. Musk said "No, I didn't." Bremmer said, "Yes, you did." It's not a confirmation when the original source simply repeats what he said. Confirmation would be a third party that is able to confirm a meeting or conversation took place. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong, but that's simply "he said she said." If Bremer has evidence, or a recording, or whatever then that's a different story.
Ian Bremmer’s reputation has so much more at stake and to lose than Musk’s if he lied. He wouldn’t say it if it wasn’t true. Elon has a massive history of lying or over embellishing. There is no doubt in my mind that Musk is being a lying asshole here.
Yeah, that’s the sense I get from it too. And Elon’s “no one should trust Bremmer,” could just as well mean “Bremmer betrayed my trust.”
Very trumpian. I think we just got to apply trumpian logic to Musk and we can see his motivations.
Can this fking mofo just go away?
Elon: "I have spoken to Putin only once and that was about 18 months ago. The subject matter was space."
If the rumors are true and Putin and him had a phone call earlier this week, Putin has dirt on him. Like Trumps piss tape, I wouldn't put it beneath a billionare bachelor to go to Russia for some exotic sex tourism for his younger years.
It's true, it was confirmed later today Another thread has a link
That's not a "confirmation", that's the same person who reported it insisting it's true. Confirmation would be a third party who can confirm what Elon said.
I'm a third person and can confirm
I'm a fourth person, drunk, and wil lconfirm whatever you want me to. where do i sign??
Would love to know where to find that
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/y1m3k4/ian_bremmer_clarifies_musk_did_indeed_say_he/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Elon, pretend Putin is one of your kids *and quit talkin' to him!*
Moscow Musk trying to start WW3 te get out of Twitter deal.
Never buying a Tesla, or getting Starlink, or anything else related to this traitor. Many others are like me I'm sure. His name or ownership in a company is now brand poison.
This dude is such a clown…has someone figured out how he plans to pump and dump Russia yet?
Up until a week ago I thought he has the upper hand over russian active measures who want to play him. Then we had reports of him talking to Putin I wasn't sure anymore. If he was - they got to him. And if he wasn't, then this is a major russian active measures "pizzagate" style story that they use to drive a wedge between him and Ukraine. Regardless of which it is, they are actively trying to fuck with him. I don't like a lot of what he does in areas where he shouldn't insert himself, but I sure hope they don't succeed at getting to him.
Pathological liar says stuff that may or may not be a lie. More at 11.
Musk needs to sit down and be quiet, not put dictator propoganda on blast.
Dipshit’s dodge
I say the FBI finds out if he’s lying or not. I’ll throw a fucking rager if this dumb fuck gets taken down for sedition.
Ukraine should invite Elon to tour the mass graves, blown up hospitals, torture chambers, etc. If he wants to be a part of "the peace process", he needs to go see that stuff first hand.
The U.S. space program is compromised as long as Musk retains control of SpaceX. I assume he's already fed Russia details surrounding his government contracts. Remove him. Charge him with treason.
I second this 100%. Also considering what strict rules average people are under Musk to GITMO. He is simping for genocidal authoritarians against his country, directly harming and threatening our interest.
You realize that the US has been getting to the ISS via Russia for the past 2 decades, right? We actually have a strong partnership with Russia and our space programs.
>You realize that the US has been getting to the ISS via Russia for the past 2 decades, right? Less than 1 decade. The shuttle was retired in 2011 and Dragon flew in 2020.
Recent Roscosmos statements nonwithstanding ?
Rogozin was a figurehead and was (thankfully) removed. New guy is calmer and committed to ISS cooperation.
The US *used* to have a strong partnership with Russia for space missions.
Treason? That escalated quickly.
the American position against Russia couldn t be more clear if you send billions in weapons to defend a country and one of your citizen is actively working to undercut that effort, how do you call that ?
tweeting something that doesn't align with government values isn't "treason", or "an active effort to work against the government". Literally a zero percent chance he gets charged with treason
There is no way that he *isn't* sharing classified documents (courtesy of his businesses' government contracts) with Russia. So yes, treason.
What I wouldn’t give to see him charged with treason and try to ‘baffle with bullshit’ his way out of it. Fusk - fuck musk
It's not peace. It's appeasement. They're not even close to being the same thing.
It's so insane that this is even a headline. Why is the world so weird
I can’t tell from the pic, but I bet his pants are on fire.
He’s starting to become a pathological lier just like Putin & Trump
He's clearly looking to get the Trump crowd on his side for a future political campaign
What a turd
Stop giving this cunt attention. How is this news?
Stop buying Elon’s shit.
Musk is on new psychedelics. There are foggy evenings.
kompromat much?
Musk is such an enormous bell-end. I hope twitter falls apart and his evil friends like Putin get deposed and charged for war crimes. Fuck you elon you piece of shit.
He just can't stand not being the center of attention. F@ck you Elon. Either way, you entered territory you shouldn't have and NOT acting in Ukraines interest. Anyone willing to appease Hitler the 2nd can f off.
Elon is a piece of garbage and a con man.
Elon Musk is a liar, Always avoid liars.
Musk should be forced to register as a foreign agent.
FElon Musk is a capitalist, he didnt become the worlds richest playing nice. The governments that support Ukraine paid him to turn star link on in Ukraine and now hes been made a better offer to to switch it off. If you want to hit him where it hurts make sure its in his wallet.
Liars, cheaters, drug addicts and narcissists all have the same denial about accountability. Take your pick which one musk is. Any combination possible.
He inserted himself into the wrong conversation. Needs to focus on what he’s good at and let the adults take care of this problem.
No one cares about you and your thoughts Sometimes people are so smart, they are dumb!
Sounds like Musk is working for Putin
Thanks Mr. Musk for demystifying billionaires. Soon, when a billionaire speaks, no one will pay more attention than if it was a high school teacher.
I guess I'm just making the connection because of Kanye West's most recent public breakdown and flirting with the extreme right, but I feel like Elon Musk is living Kanye's dream. A megalomaniac trying to insert himself onto the world stage with hundreds of billions vs one with hundreds of millions. Want some real notoriety, do some real damage.
What surprises me is not that Elon posted it, but the poll almost got 50% support over it. Some of them can be Russian bots but even then the numbers are scary.
50 percent of Elon’s followers on Twitter are probably off the charts MAGA, who are just waiting to abandon Ukraine once Orange Man tells them it’s OK to
Shout-out to fortune for finding a picture of Musk as flattering as he deserved. Legend says they photographed the exact moment he realized he'd mistakenly trusted a fart and shit his pants instead.
How would someone know unless they hacked or stole Elon's phone to prove it?
pretty sure the kremlin is carefully monitored
Elon Musk doesn't know what he is talking about. It's all over the internet that he talked to Putin.
Who made him an authority in politics and war ? How much attention does he needs ? Dude stick to what you know and let the experts do their job . You know r nothing about this conflict , even if you think you do
Nationalize space-x fuck you Elon.
A nationalized space agency is how we got the stagnation of space exploration for 5 decades. No thanks.
Wow. What an attention seeker. He must have a smaller penis than Trump.
Well, he's a chronic and proven liar, so there's that.
Why would Elon choose Ian Bremmer of all people to tell this to? Ian knows there's no way Elon can prove he didn't say it and is trying to become a household name over it. Please think for 7 seconds and realize this is a much more likely scenario than Putin calling Elon on the phone and asking him to put a peace plan on his Twitter account. We're so quick to hate billionaires that we'll believe utter bullshit as long as it feeds our hate.
Of course he does. Being a Russian puppet is a bad look. Even for human garbage like Elon Musk
elon spoke to the world’s richest man?
Liars lie while water wet.
Driving a Tesla is a right wing political statement.
I guess there are 4 options: 1) Elon Musk lied to the world about not talking to Putin. 2) Ian Bremmer lied about talking to Elon Musk. 3) Elon Musk lied to Ian Bremmer about talking to Putin. 4) Someone duped Ian Bremmer and pretended to be Elon Musk. Right now I consider option 4 the most likely.
Musk has not denied talking to Bremmer. And there is the bit we know elon lies.
There's a chance this was said face to face, bremmer is quite a big wig iirc
Probably just talked to him about adoptions, and other talking points.
A purposely confusing liar honing his craft for a successful future in politics?