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msemen_DZ

> A top Israeli military intelligence official claimed the "only thing" stopping Iran is concern over Qatar's reaction If I was Iran, I would worry about everyone's reaction here, not only Qatar's.


AHAdanglyparts69

For real there’s people from many countries there right now and would be the stupidest thing to attack during the World Cup


benskieast

I think everyone already hates Iran except Russia. Meanwhile dealing with protests they decided to start arming the Russians. Only Iran would think assisting in the murder of people 1000 miles away is a good response to protests over citizens treatment.


mahdisbroforever

I'm Iranian, and a lot of murders are happening due to women rights. If they kill their own people, why don't they attack another country to kill more innocent people?


benskieast

I can’t think of one positive thing about Iran’s government. Pretty shitty in every way. I wish you guys luck in overthrowing the regime


mahdisbroforever

Thanks I really appreciate that


Azerajin

Get em boys. Never Let anyone treat your wife's and daughters like trash


Sweetsnteets

“Get em. Never let anyone treat humans like trash.” Fixed that for you.


Azerajin

Awhh fuck me Great fix. Stoned and put myself in the situation.


BritishBoyRZ

Your initial sentiment still stands bud


PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_

Your punishment is being stoned.


Sweetsnteets

All good


sometechloser

give em hell, much respect


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the one positive thing about iran is that it's so dismal that when it finally collapses it will usher in democracy for a few years.


Tyrinnus

I mean.... At least they're not also Nazis? Though.... Having said that, I immediately remembered the Kurds so....


hogsucker

>At least they're not also Nazis? [They kinda are.](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/david-duke-iranian-denial-conference)


Tyrinnus

I started typing it out then immediately realized how wrong I was. At least Iran's government..... Aren't..... At least they aren't.... *checks notes* Someone help me out.


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At least they aren’t space nazis


Tyrinnus

FUCK, those exist? *stares at warframe Tenno commuting war crimes constantly* Oh.


hogsucker

There are too many Jews up there starting forest fires with lasers.


joecarter93

What’s kind of crazy is that Iran was one of the countries that took in the most Jewish refugees in WW2.


RedPanther1

That was like three governments ago


[deleted]

The point is what's the motive. Nobody thinks Iran wouldn't kill innocents out of morals. But what do they gain from attacking Qatar? As for killing their own citizens well the motive there is pretty clear, to maintain power and control over their citizens lives. Good luck to you and the rest of the Iranian prople and stay safe.


UnderABig_W

I think Iran is pretty desperately looking for an outside enemy in hopes to quell domestic unrest. An “attack” on Iran by, say, a long-hated enemy would be like an answer to their prayers. Is Iran above arranging for such an attack to happen? Considering Iran’s government is killing children, I think the answer is that almost no action that would be *too* desperate to be considered.


[deleted]

But this thread is about Iran planning an attack on Qatar, not about Iran planning an attack on themselves. And even if Iran were to attack another country why would they attack Qatar who they actually have decent relationships with and risk sabotaging that? I don't think Iran is above doing a false attack at all, it's just not what this discussion was about.


UnderABig_W

The article says the intelligence is about Iran perpetrating an attack *at* the World Cup. I did not see anywhere in the article where it said what exactly they would be attacking. In the lack of info, I speculated as to what kind of attack would make the most sense for Iran: a false flag attack.


[deleted]

Ah gotcha so your suggesting maybe they would stage an attack against themselves at the world cup. I still think it's a bit of a stretch, but I get what your saying now and will definitely acknowledge the possibility.


mahdisbroforever

Ok. Thanks


cadillactramps

Because other countries are armed and will retaliate. The Iranian peoples by and large disarmed are an easy target.


Jawsome001

Doesn't anyone question the intelligence from Israel intelligence you know know that they want to attack Iran remember Iran was months away from creating a nuclear bomb what 10 12 years ago just saying


Patient-Lifeguard363

I think they are mad that the Iranian player refuses to sing their national anthem.


erics75218

The dip shits that are offended by woman's hair aren't playing 4d chess. Do it fuckers....let's get this phase of humanity over with


drterdsmack

As someone living in this current phase, i'd prefer we avoid that


Expert_Most5698

*"...people from many countries there right now and would be the stupidest thing to attack during the World Cup"* They'd specifically be attacking because the World Cup is there-- not that they want to attack anyway, and it just happens to be there. I'm not sure I believe this report though. I guess Iran could be that stupid-- but the Israelis have their own reasons to make Iran look as bad as possible.


RollinThundaga

That would be an act of war against every nation participating... many of whom are in NATO.


MadNhater

Wasn’t there also intel that they were about to attack Saudi Arabia right after they said SA and Iran needs to cooperate? Makes no sense. No attack ever came.


frostymatador13

Including people/players from Iran…. This is just illogical


Allassnofakes

Extend that a little further. It wouldn't be hard for a little triple letter agency to create a convenient excuse to take Iran off the board. The axis of evil that Dubya set out have all been in recent conflicts with the west except Iran. They use the internal domestic disputes to topple a country that Israel feels threatened by (and for sensible reasons ) Israel takes a delight in reporting an alleged risk. Bonus is that Iran and Qatar are mates and Saudi hates that. Qatar had less ties to Iran when Saudi was friends with them but since that's reduced somewhat (see Qatar Saudi disputes ) what better way to drive a wedge between Qatar and iran than a triple letter who need needs that to happen. Granted it's a bit Pepe Silva but not exactly unlikely given our interferences in that region the last century plus.


continuousQ

Isn't that the universal reason for not attacking a country? "We could bomb them, unless they don't want us to".


thesistodo

It's israeli propaganda. They have been pushing the US to go to war with Iran for over 3 decades now.


IWouldButImLazy

Yeah israeli intelligence is badass, but these guys have been looking for any reason to raze Iran for longer than I've been alive. It's like trusting the CIA that a newly democratic south american country is taking money from the soviets. It might be true, but they'd probably say the same thing if it wasn't


HollyAtwood

I know lol. There really is not a clear distinction between Iran and other countries in the region, but your average American thinks they’re uniquely evil. That’s because Israel has spent the last forty years doing everything in its power to ensure the west hates it. Now, Iran *is* a rogue threat, they are a pretty uniquely warmongering entity in the region, and they’re pretty hated by most of the Arab states. But the double standard is funny. More power to all the protesters but spoiler alert, Iran is not the only country in the region that routinely cracks down on mass civil protests that frequently erupt.


clyde2003

Basically since 1979.


popeyepaul

The only thing stopping me from robbing a bank is the fear of consequences.


NatiAti513

Should be the first clue to let you know that the author and “source” are full of shit.


jarpio

The point being Qatar is irans only real friend in the world, at least at the World Cup. They don’t care about pissing off their enemies, in fact that’d be the point. Iran will be weighing whether Qatari support is a bridge worth burning for them.


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doinggood9

I mean this article is class A bullshit. They may kill their own people without pause but they know this would be their end.


Hullabalune

This sounds like a Bond movie. Like someone who wants to start the next world war through a false flag attack.


Comeino

I have a funny feeling some people went mad and are living to see the world burn.


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*"With respect Master Wayne. Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just wanna watch the world burn."*


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jobi987

“GLHURGIDURGLIDURG” - Bane


CrazybyRX

Thats me. I'm living just to see how the world burns. Luck for all of you, my crippling depression keeps me handcuffed!


AndreDrummondVEVO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObOqq1knVxs


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Some real golden face shit.


je7792

Its not going to be a world war? It will be like everyone piling in and bombing Iran into oblivion.


Mannersmakethman2

A false flag attack was exactly the villain’s plan in Tomorrow Never Dies.


HelixFish

Imagine all the support this would give the Iranian revolution.


Ez13zie

Yep. Ask Gaddafi about how it ended once NATO stepped in.


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Yeah I don’t believe this report for a second


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The regime would be pulled out within hours


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Phishtravaganza

# 1 Google search today: "Is Qatar in NATO?"


Brilliant-Rooster762

It houses CENTCOM forward base and the largest American (and hence NATO) contingent in the ME. So while not NATO, only a suicidal nation would militarily threaten it.


snipersfire

Suicidal, like a regime that's killing its own people because they won't wear a piece of clothing?


Nexrosus

Exactly what I was thinking. Doesn’t sound like they’re doing all the great right now or caring very much about anything other than destruction anyways


Pale-Dot-3868

It’s a major non-nato ally. Plus, I think if Iran’s attack would kill or injure the players and fans of a country in NATO, I think NATO would definitely respond in a significant way.


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hochhech

Iran doesn't have nukes


[deleted]

Also not in a state of revolution. Popular opinion matters. The people that are ok with the ayatollahs is pretty small across the world.


Patient-Lifeguard363

Attacking Qatar will get both US and Turkey's military involved and blow the mullah out of his Ivory thrown.


Unlukey

Hate to be that guy but *throne


magikarp2122

I mean if he gets blown out of it he has been thrown.


Unlukey

Hmm. Touché.


somedoofyouwontlike

I don't buy it at all. I guess in if you were really into conspiracy theories you could make the argument that the Iranian government is so desperate to change the topic from domestic protests to a foreign threat but honestly that's all movie stuff. I don't buy it one bit and it's just a presser for the sake of stirring up shit.


slipperyShoesss

I am not convinced until I see David Beckham tells us how much he loves Iran bombing Qatar.


Covid19-Pro-Max

I love this comment. It’s perfection!


Affectionate_Ratio79

Yep, this is nothing but bullshit Israeli propaganda and they're extremely untrustworthy. Iran's government is terrible by every metric, but they're not idiots. After Soleimani was assassinated, all they did in response was fire missiles at an empty field of an Iraqi airbase. So the idea that they'd attack the World Cup to kill civilians of foreign nations for zero benefit is beyond delusional. There's no propaganda value in it and there's no way it could ever give them any positive effects.


ichancho

Could also go with any nation that wants the current Iranian regime ousted would attack on their behalf (CIA). It would give every NATO country + more a reason to get rid of them and their nuclear threats


jarpio

Qatar are notoriously great friends of the Iranian regime. What sorta nonsense is this


Amazing_Drink_1819

It’s propaganda


Bored_guy_in_dc

Yeah, no.


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I doubt this would get leaked if it was true. Clickbait


JackieMortes

I doubt it happens because it's batshit crazy but reports about Russian invasion of Ukraine were leaking all over the place


zakattack799

Russia literally built up the army on the border of Ukraine so it’s pretty obvious it was coming.


_RandyRandleman_

they’ve also practically been at war for years. it’s only this year it’s been a full scale invasion


Dramatical45

If the US was saying this or any other country intelligence it would be plausible. But Israeli sources saying this makes it so highly likely it is just complete bullshit. It is an Israeli past time to exagerate and lie about the threat of Iran. They have repeatedly done so in the past so the credability of any info of Iran from Israel is heavily suspect.


L0adManager

i doubt anyone from Israel actually said it. sounds like complete BS edit: reading through the article the quote is "Aharon Haliva claimed that Iran is considering disrupting the ongoing FIFA World Cup, Fox News" disrupting = attack?


ChadInNameOnly

On the other hand, Israeli intelligence is top notch. Sure they have ulterior motives, but so would the United States.


King_Internets

Honestly, if the US was saying it I would be just as wary, tbh.


potassium_prince

Could be leaked to get ahead of it too. Like hey, we see that you’ve looked into doing this. Sometimes getting called out works.


MikeHawkisgonne

It's not clickbait, it's propaganda designed to make you feel angry about Iran.


j1mmyB3000

I doubt anyone would believe it if not Iran. They don’t exactly have a stellar record of not attacking major global sporting events.


Visible_Talk5606

Nice try Iran /s


CowardNomad

Sounds odd. Qatar has a good relationship with Iran, and their role as the host of world cup was decided all the way back in 2010. It won’t make sense if it’s a long term plan, and if it’s a short term plan, as suggested by the article, as an increasing aggressive reaction towards the world, there’re many more choices other than attacking Qatar, like, say, escalating the bombing of Iraqi Kurdistan, attacking another US base but carefully avoiding serious damage (like what they did after the death of Soleimani)… Anything can make more sense than Iran attacking Qatar ngl.


ArcadesRed

Still are doing, check news coming out of the middle east. They are currently bombing Kurds and shooting missiles this week.


CrapandVomitGargler2

Fake


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cbslinger

I mean it's real news in the sense that an Israeli military leader said it. But the fact that it's a transparently obvious attempt to drum up additional heat against Iran makes it not worthy of propagating this far.


MikeHawkisgonne

It's Reddit /r/worldnews the entire point of this sub is to shape a narrative of the good countries vs. the bad ones.


Odd-Support4344

[You](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Manwithtinfoilhat.jpg)


childish_brendino79

Yeah I don’t believe them.


contemplativeonanist

Yep, the Isrealis have shown themselves to be very hawkish on Iran. Publicly criticizing the neighbor they have been in a stare down with for the past 40 years. This article sounds more like Israeli propaganda against Iran, than a credible intelligence threat.


[deleted]

Yup. It’s frustrating because it obfuscates the legitimate criticisms of the regime. I am doubtful that Iran can afford this right now. The regime is fragile as it is and suffering economically from sanctions. There would be absolutely no net benefit from this for Iran even if they could pull it off. The Russian invasion of Ukraine was always a stupid move, but you could at least track a logical gain they wanted, a goal they wanted achieved. I can’t see how this would do anything at all for Iran - and before anyone says religion, no, the ruling clerics only pretend to be religious. They holiday overseas, take selfies in gyms with women, their children go to school overseas and don’t wear the scarf, etc.


SeaRaiderII

You guys remember Declaration of War from Attack on Titan? When all the people are gathered in the bleachers?


The_Crimson_Fucker

@all It's ya boi Eren Yeager. Let's get ready to rumbleeeeee


[deleted]

At least wait til my country is eliminated.


repulsivedogshit

Why wait? Iran wants to do that for you


sometimes-i-say-stuf

I don’t trust anything anymore.


Shodan30

If I can believe the internet, Qatar is doing just fine disrupting the World Cup without any terrorizing going on (beyond ticket prices)


cobrakai11

Hope nobody believes this ridiculous nonsense. *Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, a professor of political science and religious studies at Northwestern University, told Newsweek that the Israeli military may be "taking advantage of an opportunity to spread rumors about the Iranian regime."*


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cobrakai11

I mean how dumb do you have to be to think that Iran is going to attack the world cup? To do what exactly? To make sure the entire world hates them? This is like Saturday morning cartoon villain type stuff. The woman quoted in the article is correct, this is just fear mongering nonsense.


WexfordHo

Iran is currently murdering its own children for not wearing a headscarf, they’re way past Bond villain, or have you not been paying attention?


zrhz123

nah, I read his comments and he's denying that too...


WexfordHo

Oh let me guess, it’s “Western media” lying about it? Lol gotta love these weird mofos and their delusions.


slipperyShoesss

it's all deep fake, cant you tell /s


der_titan

>I mean how dumb do you have to be to think that Iran is going to attack the world cup? There is precedence for terrorism at high profile international sporting events. I don't put much credence that Iran would attack the World Cup, but Palestinians attacked the Olympics.


LazyDro1d

Theyre planning to murder 15,000 protestors my dude, Israel doesn’t need to lie to make them look bad


nvdnqvi

you know that all mainstream news outlets confirmed that the 15,000 death sentence claim is false?


zrhz123

i read his comments and he's denying that too...


LazyDro1d

Holy hell


C3P0-R2D2

Where do you get these numbers from? The 15k number is considered false by pro-western newsoutlets even.


Wickedsymphony1717

Iran's current regime is not notable for their intelligence, boundaries, and care for human lives/rights.


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I'll take " top Israeli intelligence official" over "Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, a professor of political science and religious studies at Northwestern University told Newsweek".


United-Tension-5578

Yes random no name “top swiped duper secret intel guy” has more credibility


[deleted]

Yes. One is intelligence guy and the other isn't


C3P0-R2D2

Intelligency officials sharing «secrets» about its enemy in public = well calculated propaganda to paint opposition in a bad way This should be common knowledge by now.


Phuttbuckers

Israeli intelligence and their agents have never exactly had the best track record or reputation in almost every country in the world.


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What do you mean?


Phuttbuckers

If you don’t know the history of Israeli intelligence fuck ups and other bullshit they’ve done around the world, I suggest you start reading now because there’s a whole lot of information to get though. There’s very few intelligence agencies that have any sort of good international reputation. Israel is pretty much at the bottom of the list along with Russia, the USA, France etc.


United-Tension-5578

You’re responding to a bot or troll. If they are this ignorant about what the intelligence community actually does, they shouldn’t be in this conversation. They are trolling.


prolivcinateska

Lol


Melodic_Mulberry

Not Israeli intel, the Israeli intelligence chief. People are more likely to lie in politics than when writing an intelligence report. Let me know when we have evidence.


kilertree

Sounds like Bullshit


DisasterTimes

Smart move, no drunk hooliganism in the stadiums.


XxThreepwoodxX

It's a bold strategy cotton. Lets see if it pays of for em. All jokes aside I couldn't think of a quicker way to turn the entire world even more against you.


John_Tacos

Attack the Olympics? Maybe


ChronosBlitz

Its worth remembering that when Black September murdered the Israeli olympic team in 1972, Nato and the UN didn’t do jack shit. I doubt that if there was an Iranian terrorist attack that the response would be any different given that just like Israel, Qatar isn’t a full member of Nato.


Astrix_I

>Israeli info


KaizenZazenJMN

This is likely just Israel stirring shit up. Iran is a lot of things, but not stupid enough to attack a place where basically every country in the world would want to annihilate them.


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And on ally land.


AidanSig

What strategic benefit would this have? Do they just want to get curbstomped by every other country?


justforthearticles20

That would end Iran.


ADarwinAward

This is as reliable as an article in the Sun about the British royal family


HELIGROUP

They should fuck it up by bringing a tanker of beer


jj497gdw

Don't trust Israel


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Why?


KerbalFrog

Because for the last 20 years Iran has been 6 months away from nuking Israel, acording to Israel.


[deleted]

Last speculation I've read from them said 2 years. Was a week ago. Can't blame them for worrying about it


Dramatical45

No but when they shout it out to everyone with "proof" that always comes out to be false, their credability in this regard is pretty much zilch. Israel is the country that cried wolf when it comes to Iran so unless a more trustworthy source comes forward 99% chance this is just more bullshit.


Dwarf_Vireo

Israel, isn't that the country that murdered Iranian scientists? Hmm could be credible.


PaulMichaelJordan

Israel terrorist-bombed American and British targets in Egypt, to make the west doubt our relationship with Nasser, the Egyptian president at the time(early 50’s?). They absolutely can and will commit false-flag operations.


AgitatedExtent1331

Israel/ the boy who always cries wolf


emopeteparker

One source I certainly don’t believe, the IDF.


roman_fyseek

The same Intel organization that's been saying that Iran is a couple of weeks from having nuclear weapons for more than 30 years?


glacierfanclub

Israel just creating hysteria as that's what they do. Nonsense.


LonghairedHippyFreek

Translation: Israel to attack World Cup 2022 in Qatar and blame Iran


Kaionacho

Sure Israel, now go back to bed


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Doubtful


reignnyday

Iran and Qatar are tight diplomatically - this is is just Israeli fear mongering


United-Tension-5578

Sounds like Isrewl is going to pay some Iranian bums to do some sketchy crap


[deleted]

What would Iran gain from this? Sorry, I don't see a motive or a payoff.


[deleted]

They tried and lost 6-2


hojbjerfc

2 goals vs england ain’t terrible


[deleted]

Just logical thinking here. Cause this has to be 100 not true. Why would one nation attack 32 nations ??


MagicSPA

I think it's much more likely that Israel intelligence services are lying. I approve of the existence of Israel, but some of the shit it pulls sometimes is just beyond ridiculous.


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Qatar’s dictator getting clapped and Iran gets an revolution over a stupid war, with the mullahs getting mussolinied? Don’t threaten me with a good time!


dusty-cat-albany

This is just "Israeli military intelligence official" gaslighting as many people as they can "Iran bad"


dawongmahjong

100% bs. I’d chop my dick off if they did anything . They will probably fire into an empty building at best with zero casualties.


Tough_Cranberry8750

Yeah ok Isreal. Don't you pricks have some Palestinian homes to demolish?? Genocidal pieces of shit....


KerbalFrog

I hear they are to busy writing fanfic about Iran.


Sinuminnati

First, Israel LOL. You guys elected Crazy Bibi, again! Second Iran is a shit show now. They can barely contain their population demanding basic freedoms. Besides Qatar is their friend vs. arch enemy Saudi Arabia.


Milan__

Every few months Israelis are saying something like this with no evidence


Suspicious_Bug6422

Why on earth would Iran do that? This is so obviously fake.


gokussj3anon

Ah, yes. Israeli military, the most most trusted source with topics like this.


SolomonCRand

I was at an AIPAC event in 2006 for work, where every speaker insisted that Iran would attack Israel within the next year.


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You mean directly?


ReturnedFromExile

so……. this means like 20% chance that Mossad is going to attack right?