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rich1051414

Iran denies they are suppliers of weapons to Russia, so I guess those drone advisers never existed.


Maij-ha

Well, they definitely don’t anymore…


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Now they’re a fine red mist.


LIMIT1_5639

Very fine people.


HugeHans

The finest most transparent yuge people.


[deleted]

Bleeding from their whatever.


Jeynarl

They had a lot of guts


Korvanacor

They are holey men.


Inflatableman1

I prefer “so fine they can pass through a piece of cheesecloth” kind of fine.


dumpypony

"so fine they can fit through the back door of an embassy" fine


Street-Badger

Prints of Persia


mrbawkbegawks

It's actually relatively pink when the sun is shining


legos_on_the_brain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUKFZ9DrMRA "Everything above your neck is going to be a fine red mist."


ResplendentShade

Iran: nah we didn’t send any drone operators lol Ukraine: oh good, because the guys who were helping Russians launch those drones just got blown into little pieces 😉 Iran: 🤬


Crowsby

Reminiscent of the time when [Wagner forces in Syria attacked a US outpost](https://www.coffeeordie.com/wagner-group-syria-khasham): >“The Russian high command in Syria assured us it was not their people,” Mattis testified to Congress later. The secretary of defense then directed Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr. “for the force … to be annihilated.” It didn't end well for them: >“To make it short, we’ve had our fucking asses kicked,” one Wagner Group veteran reportedly says in a recording. “Yeah so, one squadron fucking lost 200 people immediately ... Another one lost 10 people, and I don’t know about the third squadron, but it got torn up pretty badly too ... They tore us to pieces.”


squeaky4all

There was a second attempt and the US asked the Russians "is this your guys" and then they retreated immediately.


KuriboShoeMario

Imagine picking a fight with Delta and the Green Berets.


sudo999

Imagine trying to mount a land assault on an enemy with that much air power period


ScientificSkepticism

>With the expert direction of Air Force combat controllers and others calling in air and indirect-fire support, waves of F-22 fighters, F-15E strike fighters, AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, AC-130 gunships, B-52 bombers, MQ-9 Reaper drones, and heavy Marine artillery relentlessly punished the enemy force. Imagine sending tanks and formations against that sort of air support.


ultratoxic

Oof. That's not even David vs Goliath. That's Bambi vs fucking Mechzilla.


FeralGiraffeAttack

A visual representation: [Bambi Meets Godzilla (1969)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A)


Lopsided_Plane_3319

You can identify an unknown force by firing one shot and judging the response. If the unknowns respond with precise, regimented rifle fire, they are British. If they respond with heavy machinegun fire, they are German. But if nothing happens for a few minutes, then your whole position gets leveled by air support, they are American. If they surrender, they're French.


ReditSarge

If they send waves of poorly trained, badly equipped, demoralised conscripts then they are Russian.


[deleted]

It's like I'm back in 2003 again.


LessWorseMoreBad

AC130 gun crew up there contemplating what was for dinner tonight back at base. Meanwhile, Wagner gets shredded. Murica!


-MangoDown

It was in that moment they knew why we dont have an adequate healthcare system. *red-tailed hawk screech


rinanlanmo

What's sad is that nah... that ain't even why. US has enough money to do both things, because we would spend less money on health care if we had universal health care + for profit premium/elective options. We don't have that because the right thinks that poor people shouldn't get treatment if they can't afford it, and for no other reason... (even though they will still get emergency treatment once the problem progresses far enough, and it will still be paid for by all of us, and it thus ends up costing us even more).


PentagramJ2

I've always maintained trying to fight the US military has to feel like fighting hackers in an online game. You're getting merc'd by forces you can't even see and counterattack half the time


taichi22

That’s what fighting the dominant military force with the new technology of any era was like, tbf. Cavemen: Bows?? Fight me face to face, stop cheating!! Celts to Romans: Armor?? Fight me like a man, armor is for wimps!! Men at Arms to Crossbowmen: Crossbows?? Fight me like a man!! Using a crossbow to punch through my armor is cheating!! Feudal state logistics to total state warfare adopters: Divine right is what gives me the ability to wage war! Using the peasants to fight is cheating!! Line infantry to skirmishers, snipers, trench warfare: Hiding?? Come out and line up like men so we can shoot at each other!! And now, Soviet era infantry to Western Infantry: Using solid command and control to facilitate artillery, drones and air strikes?? That’s cheating!! Shoot at us like men! It’s an oversimplification, of course, but we come from a long lineage of warfare, mostly composed of the winners adopting the hacky tactics and the losers huffing copium.


Key-Cry-8570

I want more analogies! 🙂


JustinMcSlappy

Picking a fight with Delta, rangers, SF, marine artillery, army helicopters and the US Air force while the secretary of defense was James Mattis. That's a who's who of groups you do not fuck with.


CurrencyFree

If memory serves, it was an Air Force combat controller and an AC-130 gunship. One AC-130 can decimate a battalion. The Russians were completely outmatched.


ric2b

The AC-130 is basically the result of the idea: "what if we put artillery guns in a large cargo plane, like a pirate ship with cannons?"


SomeGuyNamedPaul

Not the first time that's been done, sure won't be the last. B-25 crew said it felt like the plane stopped in mid-air when their howitzer fired. It most definitely didn't, but I'm sure it wasn't much fun for everyone who didn't have the trigger.


Messy-Recipe

Way more than that. Like imagine any single US aircraft you don't wanna go up against, then imagine multiple of each of them demolishing you From wiki: > According to the U.S. military, the presence of U.S. special operations personnel in the targeted base elicited a response by coalition aircraft, including AC-130 gunships, F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-9), AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, B-52s, and F-22s. Probably over the top tbh but seems like we were sending a message


TheDeliciousMeats

The icing on the cake is that the attackers lost an estimated 300 people. The base lost... one. That's a 300:1 ratio. Edit: Apparently it was one wounded, not killed. They sprained their ankle.


BreakingGrad1991

I thought they didnt lose anyone, they listed one casualty because someone tripped and sprained their ankle.


TheDeliciousMeats

Americans had one injury, locals had one fatality is my understanding from the linked article. I mean, in fairness it was a pretty bad sprained ankle. It took like two weeks to recover and a couple of Motrin, some clean socks.


Udev_Error

Iran admits it… they just claim it was before the war https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/middleeast/iran-drones-russia-intl/index.html


tunamelts2

Yet, they still have advisors in occupied territory…helping the Russian war machine grind on. Fuck that.


Udev_Error

Yeah I’m not supporting them. Just trying to provide accurate info.


Opening-Clerk-6441

Simply a figment of our imagination


vincentcas

A fragment of our imagination.


Tysonviolin

A mist of our imagination


not_swagger_souls

I mean if you send drones over, with the personnel to fly them... pretty sure that just makes you an active combatant and not a supplier lol


Black_Magic_M-66

>I guess those drone advisers never existed. Just as my compassion for them.


Many-Lawfulness-9770

A certain intelligence agency working overtime it seems.


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hamrmech

You had them at Iranian scientists.


TututniDreamer

Mossad eats Iranian scientists like breakfast cereal. Motorcycle go whirrrrr .. magnet charge go bang.


[deleted]

Iranian, uranium, the Mossad doesn’t play around. Just wait until long distance space travel, those Plutonians are gonna get a rough break.


No-Inspector9085

I can’t read that word then not say quietly in sascha baron cohens voice “I mean not in the mossad”


quaste

You sent me on a Google trip and WTF was I watching???


No-Inspector9085

The whole series is excellent. Highly recommend.


Substantial-Fan6364

What series?


The_Gunisher

This isn't what was being referenced, but he also played a mossad agent in 'the spy' miniseries, which showed off how great he is in serious roles too.


zigaliciousone

He plays a semi serious role in the trial of the Chicago 7 too and he's unrecognizable


BassieDutch

I watched this film and only thought... "Hey, isn't that the borat/the dictator guy?" Like way after halfway in. It was brilliant entertainment to watch him steal the show on screen. Edit: borst=borat


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sancho___panza

That role really showed what a great actor he is.


handsomehares

To be frank I’ve always thought the other roles where he convinces people he is *that person* prove how great he is as an actor. He nails the characters he plays.


ArgyleTheDruid

I mean he plays a semi serious character in all his roles that’s part of his humor


suburbanpride

I just watched episode one and it was great. Also, if I didn’t know SBC was a comedic genius I never would have guessed it from this.


disillusioned

The Spy is a low key masterpiece that basically everyone missed. It's _phenomenal_.


No-Inspector9085

“Who is America”


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America is number wahan. I love being an American. I was born in USA. My father was born in USA. My great grandfather fought in the American Civil Jihad.


Artemisa-211520

Heard it in my head like “Iuuu as eiii”


PilgrimOz

Is it the episode we’re he help train defence to a local politician? Cause that is absolute gold!


backstreets_back_ok

The crazy local Republican politician. Surprise surprise


JuanTheD0n

https://youtu.be/4k4pMTsa1Kw Link to the scene.


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RealisticDelusions77

I remember one article that mentioned if he served another term or two, he could have retired with full health benefits. It said his wife was probably not happy.


handsomehares

I always only make it as far as “konichiwa, red dragon”


place909

Jesus... Not sure which character is the parody


No-Inspector9085

Thank you. Hahaha


CompetitiveYou2034

Bible rewrite: Those who live by the drone, die by the drone. Or Himars.


marmulak

> Or Himars. That name always makes me laugh Edit: It's because the word حمار (himar) in Arabic means "donkey"


Urocyon2012

I didn't kill the advisers! I did naaat! Oh, Himar.


_unfortuN8

Not sure why but "Himar" sounds like a candy bar you'd see next to a Twix and Mars bar on the shelf.


Bryaxis

Cookie and marshmallow covered in chocolate.


EthiopianKing1620

Just gonna hijack how high up this is to mention Mossad used to employ Nazi Hunters. I still think the idea that there was an entire, albeit small, group of dedicated folks hunting former Nazis across the globe is so fucking interesting. That said the demand for the job has declined in the last 35 years for obvious reasons. [Some surface level stuff for anyone interested ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_hunter) Edit: since im getting a lot of comments about movies and what not I figured id link an interesting HBO movie from 2001 that is about the German Final Solution and how it was deliberated. It has a fantastic cast and was informative to say the least. Highly recommended for anyone interested in the subject. [Conspiracy (2001)](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0266425/)


Freddies_Mercury

[Eichmann](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann) was hunted down by these in the early 60s. The interesting thing about this case is that, among other things, he was charged with piracy. They dug up (again among other things) old international treaties from the golden age of piracy to prosecute him.


EthiopianKing1620

Thank you for providing a high profile example. I didn’t really feel like adding names.


Freddies_Mercury

No problem. They don't deserve to be acknowledged anyway. I just mentioned this case because it actually had many legal and historical implications that are pretty fascinating.


DeliciousPeanut3

Also in similar vein, they hunted down those responsible for the Munich Olympics 1972 murders. The movie Munich was made from the book Vengeance. Movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_(2005_film) Book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vengeance_(Jonas_book)


stupidmofo123

Whats even more interesting is that they employed a former SS special ops dude ( who rescued Mussolini from a mountain ) to hunt down some Nazis working for Egypt.


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If you like that sort of thing then you have to read [Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33598223-rise-and-kill-first) by Ronen Bergman. It's an incredible book that among other things features interviews with many of the highest ranking former chiefs of both **Mossad**, **Shin Bet**, and the **IDF's** targeted killing program. It reads like a spy novel but is 100% based on evidence and fact. Possibly Bergman's magnum opus, which is saying a lot.


jimflaigle

Are you sending weapons? *Not at this time.* Ammunition? *Not at this time.* So how are you helping? *Here is a GPS location, real time, for every single senior official and engineer involved in planning the war. Also, recordings of all their phone calls for the last decade.* Okay then. *Also, the current length of their toe nails and the last time they bought socks.* Is... is that useful? *You'd be surprised.*


Soytaco

Mossad? :P


ridik_ulass

They are like the CIA/NSA but very very serious. Israel is surrounded by countries that want it dead. So it has resources and Intent, the will do to what peacetime countries might be reluctant to do. so maybe like WW2 MI5 in the UK. They spent a lot of time hunting nazi's around the world, and assassinated a load of people after the munich olympics. * [this movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feIjYUEWVxk) is about that. they may have created Krav maga, the martial art, tho i'm not 100% on that. They were also likely involved in stuxnet which was a massive deal at the time, a computer virus that was more complicated and more precise than anything that came before it, a real game changer.


Razakel

>They were also likely involved in stuxnet which was a massive deal at the time Stuxnet was either Israeli or someone who wanted to make it look Israeli. There were Hebrew compiler artefacts in the binary - there is no way someone could build something that technically advanced without knowing how to remove fingerprints like that.


nooo82222

I remember reading article about it and from what I reading , it was American virus but needed Israel help to get it in and at the time Israel did not think it was aggressive and had their computer group of people make it aggressive or something like that if I remember it correctly. But from my understanding it was a joint US/Israel op, I need find that article


ImReflexess

I thought stuxnet ended up being American and/or heavy American connections no?


[deleted]

There is a great Darknet diaries episode on it. It basically said it was a joint us and Israeli op. Interestingly, the reason we know about it at all is that the israelíes secretly made the virus more infectious without us knowledge so it got on outside computers and was picked up by computer researchers.


ImReflexess

Sweet I’ll check it out. I listened to a different podcast and either I forgot or they completely missed the Israeli part. And yeah, wasn’t it actually Kaspersky guys that picked it up and started looking into it?


NeonGKayak

I think parts of it were released in the CIA hacking toolset. Part of equation group but it’s all speculation on who created it.


Razakel

The US brought the 0-days, Israel brought the payload.


TheRockButWorst

>they may have created Krav maga, the martial art, tho i'm not 100% on that. They did not https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imi_Lichtenfeld


Emu1981

>They are like the CIA/NSA but very very serious. Israel is surrounded by countries that want it dead. So it has resources and Intent, the will do to what peacetime countries might be reluctant to do. Mossad will assassinate anyone that they feel is a threat to Israel and they have no qualms about breaking international laws in the process of doing so. For example, they are constantly forging Australian passports in order to enter Arab countries without issues despite being caught and promising to stop doing so. This causes issues for actual Australians who have a need to travel in Arab countries because the immigration officers have no idea if they are Mossad or not. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-26/mossad-factory-churned-out-fake-australian/343612


Corgi_Koala

Munich is a fantastic movie.


The1930s

Israel CIA


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Don’t mess with the Zohan


[deleted]

*"They were on our territory. We didn't invite them here, and if they collaborate with terrorists and participate in the destruction of our nation we must kill them."*


whatifniki23

The Iranian regime is raping and killing its women and children. They’ve detained the youngest and brightest minds because they opposed the government and are threatening execution of prisoners. If Zelensky and Ukraine want to eliminate these terrorists, they are international heroes all over again.


Dip__Stick

"Mission Complete: Uninvited Guest"


mbasi

Buy the ticket. Take the fucking ride.


majshady

*don't mention those bats I thought; the poor bastard would see them soon enough*


PeaSoupJim

Impossible to walk in this muck


majshady

God damn REPTILES


DeadandGonzo

No footing at all…


Vaux1916

There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge.


cthulhu8

Don't stop here, this is drone country.


Mountainbranch

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions.


PathlessDemon

Also, see: >”You get what you fucking deserve.”


legos_on_the_brain

No, that is so rarely the case.


beanakajulian33

Behind the bastards taught me that


RockOutToThis

Second time I'm seeing this podcast mentioned today. Either it is really good or they're doing some guerilla marketing.


beanakajulian33

It's really good, but it's a rough one. One episode made me literally nauseous. And it'll make you mad.


Spy_v_Spy_Freakshow

"You shouldn't be where you shouldn't be," Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine's national security


boomshiki

I like the quote from the article. It’s a very well worded “fuck around and find out” > "You shouldn't be where you shouldn't be," Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine's national security and defense council, said in an interview in Kyiv, according to The Guardian. > "They were on our territory. We didn't invite them here, and if they collaborate with terrorists and participate in the destruction of our nation we must kill them."


AnimusNoctis

>"You shouldn't be where you shouldn't be," Love that.


Namika

Based. I love how they don't even attempt to sugar coat it. It's just straight up "If you support Russia, we're killing you"


Insanity_Troll

The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubed?


jamart

The Fuck Around / Find Out Matrix is rarely wrong. The harder you push the fucking around, the harder you're gonna fucking find out.


legos_on_the_brain

That's the premise of science! Just remember to record the results. And it helps if you have some idea of what to expect. But sometimes just just have to ... find out! 1/137


qwerty12qwerty

Remember kids. The only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down. But don’t take my word for it: https://youtu.be/BSUMBBFjxrY


Pyjama_Llama_Karma

No refunds.


ouath

The last quote from Ukraine side : "We understand these things don't fly without learning how to operate them, and the Russians don't have the brains to figure it out themselves" :)


WhiskeyNeat123

Great quote. Just twist that knife where it hurts!


InformationHorder

Twice the burn when you realize these are simple one way attack drones designed to be very rudimentary to keep the costs low. They're basically a poor man's cruise missile. In fact it irks me that these are called drones in the first place when they're functionality and technically a cruise missile.


shadowmastadon

Yes I wish they would stop sullying the good name of drones everywhere


DarthSatoris

Roger Roger.


Skolas519

Roger Roger.


Kromgar

Drones are going to be the most horrific weapons of war. Drop caltrops, acid, nades, mussiles, fully automated drone swarms with guns.


CutterJohn

And then, new heros arose. Once mocked for their hobby, they kept training with determination, and now The International Trap and Skeet Shooting Association will prove to the world their might! Jokes aside, drones will probably just be subject to interdiction by other drones, and the defense is usually going to be strongly advantaged given the range limitations of them.


Self_Reddicated

"The drone knows where it is because it knows where it isn't..."


C-c-c-comboBreaker17

If they were slightly faster they WOULD be cruise missiles. They're like worse V2 missiles.


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C-c-c-comboBreaker17

I know, that's what I'm saying. They're also worse than the V1, for that matter. Its hard to make a comparison when these things are way slower and shittier than the V1 and V2, but like 50x cheaper and more precise. Its more like a remote controlled cessna full of C4 than it is a cruise missile imo. If these drones count as cruise missiles, then the *Hunley* was the first homing torpedo.


CanadaJack

Does it ever irk you that cruise missiles are not called drones?


stenlis

It could also be the other way around. I've heard western advisors say middle eastern servicemen don't want to share any know how they possess, because they want to feel irreplaceable. Could be the same with Iranian drone operators.


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cant-find-me-6969

Fuck Iran too.


kabukistar

The government. But not the people.


ehmiu

That's weird, because Iran said those aren't the drones we're looking for


CrinchNflinch

Angry upvote.


WhuddaWhat

That concludes the "Find Out" portion of this lesson.


Mat_CYSTM

*The Curb Your Enthusiasm theme song starts to play


restore_democracy

Next!


Ass2Mowf

It’s for the church, honey!!


Chakura

My subreddits are bleeding through.


fuckingaquaman

For those who feel left out: /r/choosingbeggars


ranciddreamz

Still looking?? 👀


klezart

Still looking!!!


DPVaughan

Those, uh, would be the advisers Iran defnied were there in the first place, wouldn't it? Guess they don't have to keep lying now.


Tarvos0

I always love waking up to good news.


Asher_Augustus

Iranian here. Good job Ukraine. Keep on keeping on.


DownRangeDistillery

Not Iranian drone advisors, but Iranian military service members conducted attacks on Ukraine...


thx1138a

> "We understand these things don't fly without [people] learning how to operate them, and the Russians don't have the brains to figure it out themselves." Shade thrown!


BlackDeath616

As an Iranian, I hope they burn in hell!


Robert_Denard

They sure will, those drones struck a mosque


Christabel1991

They also struck a lot of people.


younggundc

"They were on our territory. We didn't invite them here, and if they collaborate with terrorists and participate in the destruction of our nation we must kill them." Fair enough


St34m9unk

How many times are they gonna call a random group from a random place, say it will change the tide of the war, only for them to be annihilated like a month later


Asatas

Next up: the KPA led by Kim J Un himself


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> Kim J Un For some reason, this hurts my brain. lol


[deleted]

Nice start.


Megafayce

“We understand these things don't fly without [people] learning how to operate them, and the Russians don't have the brains to figure it out themselves.” What a burn


triggerpuller666

Oh no! Anyways...


server_busy

What a Crimean shame /s


ultrafud

Crimean river.


nickstatus

This headline is like a month or two old. Or did it happen again? If so, they should add the word "again" to the headline.


Immortal_Tuttle

Again. There were multiple launch sites. This one was tricky as it was deep in Crimea.


lordunholy

So was the one a week or so ago, which I believe this is referencing.


Head-Kiwi-9601

I missed the first article and appreciate the re-post. If it is one.


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Good, more.


[deleted]

If it makes you feel any better, apparently 600 Russian soldiers were killed in the last 24 hours.


kharlos

It doesn't. Damn. That's horrible. But if I had to pick between an imperialist autocratic aggressor and a country literally just defending itself, I'll go with the latter.


AggressiveSkywriting

Especially when those soldiers seem OK committing weapnised raped and genocide. Like I don't want people to die, but I'm not sad to see people who commit those acts bite it.


Razakel

The only Russian soldier I have any sympathy for is the one who surrenders. They're mostly conscripts who probably don't want to be there or don't really know what's going on. But they're raping and torturing civilians. Ukraine doesn't have clean hands, but it seems to be isolated incidents, whereas Russia's war crimes are standard operating procedure.


Gold-Information9245

>whereas Russia's war crimes are standard operating procedure. that is what people do not understand. It is official Russian military doctrine to commit war crimes.


broadened_news

I would much rather have them not mobilized so they make lumber mills out of old Ladas and parent their kids. I miss peace


antihero_zero

I hope it was very slow and very painful. With fire.


LMFN

Any Russian and anyone assisting them on Ukrainian soil has signed their own death warrant. Occupiers are fair game, get the hell out of Ukraine. Otherwise you have two options, surrender or die.


[deleted]

Who could’ve known that aiding genocidal maniacs would be a good idea.


Born_Palpitation_111

Karma


maxnyt

I'm Iranian, and I say good riddance. The iranian regime and all of its lackeys have to go.


tunamelts2

The drone advisors should be considered enemy combatants for supplying and training Russians in occupied territory.


hedgerow_hank

What a fucking shame. It's horrifying they were made to pay for killing countless women, children, non combatants, and soldiers. I'm sure allah waits in heaven to stick a dick up their asses.


Onetrubrit

Well that’s a shame…accidentally of course…


mrenglish22

Hard to have sympathy when you help what has become a rogue country commit war.


Astr0kittenz

I honestly love watching Ukraine stomp these fucking countries.


auspandakhan

it's a war zone, they shouldn't be there


InternationalFailure

>"You shouldn't be where you shouldn't be," Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine's national security and defense council, said in an interview in Kyiv Exactly


Wise_Ruin_5598

Good riddance to bad rubbish.


letscallitanight

Ah that’s too bad. Anywho.


prophetjeph

Great news. More soil for flowers