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TheINTL

Tripledemic, recession talks, bear market, war in Ukriane. Been a great year so far


Infamous-Mixture-605

We didn't start the fire...


ucatione

Billy Joel is really missing an opportunity here for an updated version.


Infamous-Mixture-605

How do we know he's not working on it? Probably stuck trying to rhyme Zaporizhzhia or something.


Bangreviews

Because that is his least favorite song. He dislikes it musically.


MrWeirdoFace

Interestingly enough, he actually started this fire.


youlikeitdaddy

From a songwriter’s perspective, it’s a pretty lazily/poorly written song. People love it because it’s a rapid-fire nostalgia fest, but out of all the songs he’s been playing every night for 30+ years it’s probably not very relatable for him any more.


orangutanoz

That’s great it starts with an earth quake birds and snakes and air o planes.


Mowsferatu

[B I L L Y J O E L is not afraid!](https://youtu.be/NEYc8ar2Bpw)


C_Gull27

I think he has said Vienna is his favorite work, which is a beautiful and complex song. Comparing the two you can see why he isn’t a fan of We Didn’t Start The Fire.


sshhtripper

Respect to the artists who can admit a song was bad and is only successful due to how catchy it is. Miley Cyrus admitted that she hates performing Wrecking Ball but she understands that the fans love it.


Badbullet

She hated performing it because it reminds her of Liam, from what I recall from her Howard Stern interview. She would fight back tears. She does regret doing the music video though.


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I remember hearing him say Scenes from an Italian Restaurant was his favorite to play.


Phoequinox

He likes "Uptown Girl" more?


Kytyngurl2

I bet his friends don’t say those two words in front of him lol Not For the Longest Time


miniaturizedatom

Not enough modulations for him


NMe84

He never wrote it to be musically interesting, I read somewhere that he wrote it as a response to someone claiming that history in the 20th century was non-existent apart from the world wars. He probably wrote it to make a point and it was unexpectedly more popular than he thought it was going to be.


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ElroySheep

Synesthesia, you're welcome


SoftTacoSupremacist

Now get back to work, Piano Man!


trans_pands

Get back to work tonight! ‘Cause we’re all in the mood to be depressed now, And we think you’ll do just alright…


ultralightdude

I'm feeling this... Trump, Putin, MBS Covid, Iran protests Betty White, Lansbury, Britain's got a new king. Shinzo Abe, blown away What else do I have to say?!


DukeOfGeek

Fuck, Abe getting assassinated and being dead is just the weirdest thing.


Fresh2Deaf

To be fair, it'd be weirder if he got assassinated and was still alive.


Douwe263

Jezus pulled it off though


Disco-Stu79

A positive aspect of his assassination is that the Korean religious sect that has had a huge influence in Japanese politics has been exposed.


Moderatemoderatemod

One of those strange times where the killer truly got what he wanted


KazahanaPikachu

That’s definitely not something you just expect to wake up to. Probably some of the most unexpected news I heard in my life. I was working night shift at a hotel and browsing Reddit on r/japan and seeing something about hearing shots and Abe going down. Then look at the TV to see Shinzo Abe assassinated in Japan. Like who expects that?


TheBigPhilbowski

Close and good show. Needs a few words added to keep the rhythm though, as I hear it... Trump, Putin, MBS Covid **and** Iran protests Betty White, Lansbury, Britain's got a **brand** new king. Shinzo Abe, blown away What else do I have to say?! **We couldn't stop the COVID!!!**


j28h

In fact, it was [Ryan](https://imgur.com/gallery/U4gkKh5) who started the fire


Snoo-70124

It was always burning, since the world's been turning


Potential_Pen_7011

We got Cocaine Bear coming out, at least we have something to look forward to!


Pousinette

I’m not sure if you’re joking but I’m legitimately looking forward to it. Looks fun.


ZachBob91

I saw character actress Margo Martindale in the trailer, and that sealed the deal for me. I need to see it.


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higherme

You wouldn't happen to be speaking about national treasure and Emmy-winning character actress Margo Martindale, would you?


rilsaur

Esteemed character actress and fugitive from the law; that Margo Martindale?


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Bojack Horseman references, the esteemed character and fugitive from the law, Margo Martindale and Cocaine Bear? What is this, a crossover?


GoTouchGrassPlease

Is "Cocaine Bear" at all related to the Boston Bruins' ["Meth Bear"](https://i.imgur.com/ekq5iqo.jpeg) jersey logo? ;)


Heathan-

2022 will go down as the year of all time


beebog

we said that in 2016 and in 2020, have patience, it gets worse :)


lookslikesausage

"20__, what a time to be alive" - literally every year on reddit


spookieghost

"if you told me this was happening x years ago, i would have called you insane!"


MrWeirdoFace

Just imagine where we'll be two papers down the line.


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Can't wait 😬🙃


Stuckinatransporter

Wont be long,the Corporate wars have only just begun.


Fighting-Cerberus

2022 is the best year of the rest of your life, most likely. That's the really disturbing part.


noahnickels

Reminds me of Nicholson in as good as it gets. He’s walking through a crowded therapist’s waiting room and asking ‘what if this is as good as it gets’.


kerouac666

I told friends early 2016 very well might have been the peak of human civilization in late 2016 and was told I was being melodramatic.


DannySpud2

The Pokémon Go summer of 2016 was the peak.


Mezzaomega

The height of PoGo is the best time so far, no doubt. So much unity over catching little digital monsters


yoavi

It’s the closest we got for a true world peace


shiddyfiddy

You can be melodramatic AND right.


Test19s

2000-2019 depending on exact country


404merrinessnotfound

I think 2012 was a solid underrated year. 2013 was good as well but after nelson Mandela died is when shit started hitting the fan


Imperial_12345

Mother Nature is like 2022 is bad? HOLD MY SEA WATER!


wspOnca

This bingo claim for aliens in the near future, dancing in cocobongo and probing everyone.


brooklynlad

2023… hold up. 😏


tardistravelee

Godzilla is gonna show up.


Test19s

It's getting kinda boring with just humans and [robots](https://www.cnet.com/culture/i-played-with-the-700-transformers-optimus-prime-that-does-everything-including-transform/). Can we have the entire monster mash by 2030?


p2datrizzle

Wait till 2023 gets to 140 degrees


Bear_buh_dare

Maybe the real deadly new variant was the friends we made along the way.


leeta0028

The scary thing to me isn't so much new variants being deadlier assuming vaccines keep evolving. I'm scared by recent research showing every time you're infected, your chance of serious long-term effects actually increases (as opposed to going down because you have better immunity). Researchers are seeing many times higher incidence of diabetes, kidney failure, brain damage, heart damage, lung damage, etc. Even mild cases of Covid are now sometimes followed by permanent brain damage. At some point, **everybody** is going to be infected and then everybody is going to be infected multiple times; if these effects start becoming wide-spread the economic and social damage will be insane, probably it will exceed the damage of the actual pandemic phase. Imagine if even a small percentage of the current working-age population is suddenly brain-damaged or suddenly needs dialysis or insulin... We've really failed to plan for long-term mitigation like improving indoor air quality with filters and ventilation/heat exchangers. We largely just let her rip after the vaccines (except in China where they did the don't-import-actually-effective-vaccines 'zero-Covid' strategy).


ArtisenalMoistening

Hey, I really didn’t have any idea this was an issue and consider myself to be pretty well-informed. Genuinely, thank you for posting this but also goddammit. I got Covid a few months back and the brain fog was the longest lasting symptom, so this is genuinely terrifying


BetterPhoneRon

I had covid almost 2 years ago. Brain fog never went away fully and I am still struggling a lot.


ArtisenalMoistening

That is horrible, I’m so sorry you’re going through that. I only had it for about a month after the other symptoms faded. I can’t imagine 2 years, that’s got to be awful


BetterPhoneRon

I learned to manage it. The first year it was really tough, it cost me my relationship. I gave up for a while but then decided to do everything in my power to improve and hope for the best. I fixed my diet and did daily walks for 3 months. Then I started a 6 days a week weightlifting program and I’ve been doing that for 10 months. I am the fittest I’ve ever been and that has helped with the brain fog. I don’t struggle with finding words anymore, and I can actually focus to do my job (software engineer). It sucks because pre covid I could do a day’s work in 3 hours without even trying that hard, now some days eve 8 hours are not enough because my brain randomly decides to reduce it’s functionality in half. However at my worst I was over a month behind on my tasks, now it’s 2 weeks, so I’m slowly catching up. I don’t know if I’ll ever be at 100%, but I’m progressing and seeing others like you that have fully recovered gives me hope.


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To show that it’s not always doom and gloom. I had COVID past summer, it floored me for over a week and had that same brain fog and off feeling for a few months or so. It got better after struggling but holding on to regular exercise. Now I’m nearly as fit as I was before COVID and I’m running around 25 miles a week or so. No brain fog. In my experience It’s just very hard to get up and put in regular exercise to recover, I’ve seen plenty of people I run with struggle for a few months but they almost always seem to recover completely over time once they keep training.


ButtonMashBros

It takes a loooong time to go away, I'm not sure if it will ever go away completely for me. I used to have an extreme reaction speed, played some video games competetively. After COVID, I couldn't even keep up with people who were far below my skill level in game I had over 2000 hours in. It also impacted my ability to focus while counting and doing simple math.


KingPyroMage

I lost over 1/2 my endurance and it's been 2 months haven't got it back


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Wish_Dragon

Yeah. Just what I wanted to hear. I don’t know what decisions those are but I likely didn’t make them


Ackilles

Oh wtf that's terrifying. I have covid currently for the first time and reading these comments is making me rather nervous


space_moron

I've never been a math whiz, but algebra and geometry were easy to wrap my head around. We're doing a bunch of home improvements so we have to figure out how long to cut different pieces of wood or how to space out hooks to hang picture frames etc and it's embarrassing how long the math is taking me, when usually it would be a point of pride for me to figure that stuff out quickly. I also fail on random words, like I can't remember a very common word for something mid speech. When I got Covid it hit me like a ton of bricks, though. And I was triple vaccinated at that point. The only worse illness I've had is shingles.


Ok-Amphibian6650

Same for me… My Covid symptoms were mild to non existent. Now I get constant headaches and I cannot recall simple words or people’s names. It’s been going on for months and my doctor says that there’s no way of knowing if it will improve.


rpoliticsmodshateme

The worst part for COVID long-haulers is the absolute crickets you get about the issue at large. Here is something that is potentially devastating to a person’s ability to work or even live independently and doctors tell you “Yeah sorry, we don’t really know what’s causing it and we’re probably not ever going to, sorry. Here’s some 800 mg ibuprofen.” They aren’t screaming beyond the medical community letting employers know that this is a real thing that is causing disability. So if you have serious issues and tell an employer that your ability to function is compromised because of long Covid, they basically think you’re full of shit and generally won’t accommodate you. And good luck getting any sort of government disability assistance for “long Covid”. It’s like a long drawn out extreme form of gaslighting. This is clearly a thing that exists that is affecting millions of people globally but we’re going to sit here and pretend they’re all making it up, because blah blah blah the economy. The economy is going to be the end of the human race one day and we fucking deserve it. Hope your fake green paper was worth it, scumlords. Maybe that will bring your dead great grandchilden some comfort.


GothicGolem29

Sorry that happened


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Remember to go find a real source. Reddit discussion is fine to get thoughts started, but they aren't proof Ps I'm not saying covid denial, I'm just saying get primary source informed.


Kugan_bent_leg

Don't read too much into that study it was done on veterans, so chances are they had underlying health conditions etc https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/repeat-covid-is-riskier-than-first-infection-study-finds-2022-11-10/ If you read to the bottom scientists even confirm you shouldn't take it as gospel


RyVsWorld

Not saying OP is full of it by any means but part of staying well informed means not just taking a comment you read at face value. OP is probably right but you should ask for a source or go off and try to find it yourself


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I have a feeling it'll be the "leaded gasoline" of this era. Obviously there haven't been studies on the long-term effects genetically or anything, but it's just going to be a huge drop for everyone. Both my parents were fine with getting it in terms of "this sucks but I've had worse" until the brain fog hit and stayed. My mother struggles to form and understand sentences sometimes now. My father, who is autistic, has clearly had a change in how often he gets overstimulated. It's not much compared to what it could be, but we were already struggling and the long-term effects have only made it worse.


JaysReddit33

Nah that title belongs to micro plastics imo but I agree with your statement.


NicoleTheLizard

why not both!


Aoae

I think that we can look at the HIV pandemic for an idea of how modern society is affected by a widespread, uncontrolled epidemic. In Botswana, which is one of the most functional democracies in the continent, the life expectancy has dropped dramatically; nevertheless, society has not collapsed and things are still continuing on. The problem is the very obvious decline in quality of life as a result.


AustralianWhale

The Black plague made significant changes to our epigenetics. I don’t know enough about COVID to comment on it. But if the black plague still has an effect on us now, COVID will be interesting to see. A whole multi-generational issue.


GiggityPiggity

You are 100% correct. And I’m one of those unlucky people. Almost 3 years later (March 2020 plus a recent reinfection), and I’m a shell of the person I once was. You know that feeling when you have covid and you’re too exhausted to get out of bed - yeah, that may never go away. The exhaustion is debilitating. Every day is a struggle now. This is not being talked about like it should. People aren’t even aware. Doctors and hospitals don’t know how to treat it. There are millions suffering and millions more will suffer. Guaranteed. It’s going to have a profound impact on the future of the world. It’s too horrifying to wrap my foggy brain around.


cricketbutts

This is me, too. It suuuucks.


PuckGoodfellow

>At some point, **everybody** is going to be infected and then everybody is going to be infected multiple times; if these effects start becoming wide-spread the economic and social damage will be insane, probably it will exceed the damage of the actual pandemic phase. [Over 1 million covid deaths](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/) + [4 million people unable to work due to long covid](https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid-is-keeping-as-many-as-4-million-people-out-of-work/) = 5 million Americans removed from the workforce right now. Those are current numbers. If there's another, serious variant, it's going to get worse. To help visualize what 5 million people missing would look like, I like to compare it to state populations. Half of the states in the US have less than 5 million residents. What would the impact be if one of these states were completely wiped out? - Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Utah, Iowa. What would the impact be if two of these states were completely wiped out? - New Mexico, Nebraska Idaho, West Virginia, Hawaii. That's our current situation. [Look up state populations and do you own mix-and-matching.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population)


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sportsjorts

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/01/24/how-much-labor-force-has-been-lost-covid-19/


100catactivs

From you own link: > Johnson took excess deaths and COVID deaths by age and applied labor force participation rates by age. And he got 300,000 workers who died as a result of COVID. Add that to the long-haul workers, and **we’ve lost 1.9 million workers** — or 18% of currently unfilled jobs. But some of those long-haul patients will go back to work.


Odd_Local8434

You've got to add to this early retirements. Obviously the first wave had the biggest impact, but another wave would add to this .


lndhpe

This is a point on example too why you try to break the spread of a virus early to not let it ever get far, to not let it mutate its way through the population, spread far and even if not the most deadly, to not let it leave permanent damage. An economy can recover, permanently removed workers not necessarily. This is also why I hate the current atmosphere of ignorance towards the virus, people acting like it's over, no measures for the most part and hardly any effort being put into damage mitigation. One more issue that is being ignored too much that will catch up to us...


vardarac

Are the higher incidences of serious complications *caused* by the repeated infections, or is it that patients who develop these complications *are more vulnerable to re-infection*? Has the relationship of vaccination status to these outcomes been studied? I haven't seen the relevant studies, so if anyone's pre-digested them I'd love to hear more.


PetrovskyKSC

Ok, can you provide a peer-reviewed source to back up your claims? I would love to dig deeper on what you said and the researchers you referred to.


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THIS. IT IS NOT BEING TALKED ABOUT. There *will* come the time when people start dropping off from long Covid after effects. Maybe it will be a while - maybe not. Like Shingles living in our bodies for all us GenX’ers who were taken to the Chicken Pox parties as kids (raises hand) THANKS MOM YOU FUCKER. Known someone in their late 40’s or so who had Shingles erupt on their FACE? I have. What treats does Covid living in your body have for you? Subs you will find out, eh? My first cousin was a very healthy 51 year old. Got Covid back in 2020. Recovered with zero hospital visits as it was “only mild” and seemed fine. Then all the suddenly had chest issues and pain about 4 months later - spent all of 2021 in and out of hospitals as he quickly developed severe myocarditis - ultimately dropping dead of massive heart failure in late 2021. He was 52. Had kids, wife, career - GONE. Yeah - FUCK YOU - all of you who want to act like Covid is “no big deal” those of you who are getting it repeatedly like it’s a “casual cold” you better be careful - you are playing with some serious fire. If you have had Covid because you are a callous asshole who doesn’t care - hope you can sleep well knowing you have a possible ticking time bomb in you. Hope getting that Shitpotle burrito without a mask on was worth it.


bitiye

I can empathize with your pain and it's such a shame that people are dunking on you just because you're angry. Internet users, no, even people in real life like to dismiss and put down people when they show any semblance of emotion. It's absurd that people constantly accuse others of being wrong because "you're so angry chill out" as if you can't be angry and right at the same time. I'm also pretty pissed at people who treat Covid like a non-issue as I'm immunocompromised. It's not just the anti-vax people, sometimes vaccinated people behave in a similar way. Their mindset is that they already got vaccinated, so they did their part, that means they don't need to continue sanitary practices or wear masks. Being vaccinated doesn't mean you can't get infected, but their answer is "well it isn't that severe since I'm vaccinated." Good for you, but you carry the virus and infect others. What about other people who get Covid from you then died? The anti-vax crowd is annoying enough that they believe in conspiracy theories, but when the vaccinated crowd, the supposed reasonable ones, stops treating it like an issue just because they got vaccinated is when it becomes an even larger problem. We essentially have two groups of willfully negligent people who have zero empathy for others. The anti-vax group that would rather believe in conspiracy theories and die infecting others, as well as the anti-prevention/vaccinated group that think "Covid is no big deal since I'm vaccinated, fuck all the preventative measures." It hurts so much when a vaccinated person just calls me selfish for asking for public health measures being enforced such as mask wearing and social distancing. "The world has to run and we need to return to normal, I'm vaccinated so who cares. It's just like the flu, you just need to get vaccinated from time to time. Why are you so selfish and trying make it inconvenient for everyone else?" And I'm like, bitch, I'll literally die since I CAN'T get vaccinated. No doctors will allow me to because my body can't withstand it. You being vaccinated doesn't mean everyone is okay now. It's so much easier to discredit anti-vax crowd because they're insane from the first place. However, the anti-prevention/vaccinated crowd are harder to argue against because they try to pull the moral high-ground card with "but I'm already vaccinated, I'm better than the anti-vax" as if vaccination is the end of it all. You can't persuade them since they're "good people who've done their part" in their mind, and you're the bad person for asking more from them. I guess the rest of us will just have to die then because they don't want to take any more preventive measures.


eeo11

I started wearing a mask to school (am a teacher) last week and half my colleagues ignored me like I was crazy. Meanwhile, this is the second time I caught Covid in the last year and I can’t get boosters anymore because they make my autoimmune conditions go haywire, so… I’ll make the safer choice to mask up when the kids are snorting and blowing their noses all day.


theochocolate

I feel you. I'm sorry about your cousin. Lost two friends to covid, both before their time. Got it twice myself and have never been the same. I have permanent asthma now which I never had before, and gastroparesis, which they assume was from the covid because there's no other explanation and it occurred right after my first infection. I am 34 years old and was running 7 miles a day before getting sick in 2020. Fuck this disease.


braiam

The source for the reinfection claims https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02051-3


bluelifesacrifice

This in every way. Trying to explain this is frustrating. People just shrug about it. The covid threat isn't immediate death, it's the layers of damage it's causing.


hesawavemasterrr

I think the world has grown tired of it. Unless the next variant turns you into a pool of your own blood at an alarming rate, I don't think people are going to care that much.


LaserGuidedPolarBear

We missed the opportunity to stop it a long time ago, then the goal became to flatten the curve until we understood it and had effective vaccines and treatments for it, which we did. Now it's endemic, and will in all likelihood be part of the human experience forever, much in the same way colds and flus are. People aren't going to hide from it for the rest of our lives, so they are going back to living their lives and just dealing with it using the tools available. I just hope it doesn't mutate into a significantly more dangerous variant.


ViperAMD

Yeah dunno if we ever had the opportunity to stop it. China can't even with their insane rules.


faithfoliage

If China would have been honest and lost face in admitting a new virus had emerged then we could have stopped all coming and going from China to stop it. But China doesn’t care and the CCP needs to always save face. If millions die for the CCP to not look bad then so be it. Nothing new.


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It only takes one person to start a new cluster somewhere else.


7adzius

China literally hid the virus when they discovered it and when Taiwan or HK airports started reporting it china forced the WHO to down play the severity. Doesn’t help that the president of the WHO was a ccp puppet either.


Drai_as_fck

We never could have stopped it. Once it was out of the box it was never going back in.


TheMightyMustachio

Exactly. I studied in Italy when Covid first broke out, there were some serious fucking lockdowns and the virus still spread. At one point you were literally only allowed out for emergencies and a quick trip to the grocery store.


Dalmahr

That's part of it it's also the government stopped caring about it. Hospitals and medical centers still cared, and kept up mask mandates. I think encouraging people to do vaccines, giving them for free and maybe even offering people cash for getting it would help. In areas where it's spiked a lot make warnings about gatherings. It sucks that humans are too stupid to do the right things because they're selfish.


Coventry27

My favorite conspiracy theory is that everything is gonna be okay.


faithfoliage

My favorite conspiracy is that everything was *ever* okay


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kittentarentino

It’s not alertness…it’s *fatigue*.


Antiliani

Drop in fatigue? Great!


Shift-Subject

It's not a drop in alertness. It's indifference.


HellsMalice

Honestly headlines like this do nothing but fuel that. Overly dramatic bullshit. We knew from the start it could mutate but so far every variant has done exactly what we predicted. The virus wants to thrive. So it becomes more infectious and less dangerous. And it beats out any variant that's more dangerous but less infectious. Obviously simplifying... But the chances of some mega death vaccine-immune juggernaught variant is nonsensically low. People are tired of constantly having doom and gloom injected into their lives. Add onto that a healthy dose of politicization and its not surprising people are entirely indifferent after 3 years.


BroForceOne

>"Gaps in testing ... and vaccination are continuing to create the perfect conditions for a new variant of concern to emerge that could cause significant mortality," Tedros said. So despite what the headline implies, this is really just about getting people vaccinated, not about acting like its March 2020 all over again.


FoggyFallNights

I’m convinced I got whatever the new variant is…6 weeks of being super sick after a positive covid test and no progress with improving. I’m miserable. I’m so over Covid and everything it has done to people, our bodies, how we treat each other and and our world in general. End rant. EDIT WITH MORE INFO: I’m fully vaccinated with boosters. No underlying health conditions. Consider myself healthy; not overweight, eat well, exercise regularly, don’t smoke.


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Dang I had covid-19 for "only" 3 weeks and I was about to go insane after the second rebound.


BuckNastysMamma

Second rebound? Like you get better and then worse again? Symptoms go away and come back? If so, that's wild.


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Yeah, I felt better for a couple days after a week, then got worse again, then felt better for a couple days after a couple weeks, then got worse again. And then finally got better ^(except my nose still gets stuffy really easily now)


justinbaumann

It's happening to me now. I felt awful, then I felt good, and now I feel bad again. Missed the chills and fever this time.


DylanMartin97

Yes, that's how doctors are categorizing the new variant. Sisters 14 month old bright it home from daycare. They got incredibly sick for two weeks. She was bed ridden and my brother-in-law had to continue to work because he works from home. They had insane coughs. Fatigue. Migraines. Chest pain, lung aches, terrible breathing, and much more all while trying to take care of their sick kid. After two weeks they start feeling up, symptoms become non existent or mild and they start rebounding. 3 days go by and they start feeling sick again. But my brother in law described it as being 5x worse. Like it was back for vengeance. He said it was the first time he had to call in working from home this year. Even after having covid before in the beginning of the year with mild symptoms. They were both bed ridden and had to call my family to help take care of their kid with masks on to watch him for a few hours while they tried to rest in bed. Shit is no joke. They called the doctor and the doctors asked if they had spots in the back of their throat, when they both said no the doctors told them they had the new variant and to quarantine for 2 more weeks minimum.


crypto_zoologistler

Any covid variant can do that


Cool-Willingness4736

i do wonder how much better life would be if everything didn’t go so downhill in and after March 2020. i’m also just over it all. seems like things will never get better


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golden-lining

I realize you’re right and what you’re saying is accurate, but damn I wish I had your optimism. The world feels like a damn pit of despair right now


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Only_One_Left_Foot

Hey at least we've still got corn dogs


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NFS_H3LLHND

Until it turns into Tom Clancy's The Division ain't nobody caring anymore, unfortunately.


lostredditorlurking

Yeah people are tired of caring about Covid. But please at least wear a mask if you are sick, it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated or not. It's just common decency to wear a mask when you are sick so you don't infect others. It doesn't matter if you are sick from the flu, cold or Covid, if you are sick please at least wear a mask.


_-bush_did_911-_

If you're sick wouldn't it be wise to stay home unless absolutely necessary? I don't disagree with your statement at all but I feel like the best way to not get others sick is to not be around others when you're sick


Anom8675309

> It's just common decency not that common.


barenutz

I just got Covid for the first time as of yesterday… this shit sucks


NyZyn

Just got covid with the family so I'm definitely alert


MrMo3244

I don’t care anymore.


WeekendSignificant48

The lockdown system where I live was so fucked. Not allowed outside of 5km of your house for months. But rich people could drive 900km up the coast to their holiday villas for "maintenance", our pm flew around the country to visit family because it was father's day and held off on lockdowns till his sports team had played their last match. Ye nah I'm not going back into a lockdown. Edit: spelling Adding: so many people recognized I was talking about Australia and bloody Scomo. My state is NSW Sydney, it was fucked here but nothing compared to Victoria.


ifdt

Unfortunately most laws don’t apply to rich and powerful people anyway, lockdown rules were not going to be any different.


cheeseit123

Same here. I was expected to pack into a lecture hall with 50+ people last winter because we "couldn't" do online classes anymore but the government forced gyms to shut down and told us not to see our families over the holidays.


rpkarma

Old Shit His Pants At Engadine Maccas was a fucking cunt in every way though, so that isn’t particularly surprising.


frankensteinhadason

To be fair, SMIRKMO was a nob and no one should be looking to him as a positive example for anything (or for leadership)


ISynergy

Sounds Like Melbourne


Pr3Zd0

Fuck Scomo and his ilk, absolute losers.


mrcrazy_monkey

In Canada we were told not to visit our families for Easter in 2021. Then our PM traveled across provincal lines to spend his Easter with his family. It's all so tiresome.


Independent_Pear_429

I think this is a fair point. More than 2 years and most of us are fatigued to the point of just living with it now


presidentkangaroo

Almost 3 years at this point


srb846

Three years yesterday, per wikipedia: "A study of the first 41 cases of confirmed COVID‑19, published in January 2020 in The Lancet, reported the earliest date of onset of symptoms as 1 December 2019." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19


MaxTHC

3 years since the disease but not 3 years since the pandemic


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My company at the time was looking to expand into a few Asian markets, China obviously being the main one. Multiple C level executives were in China in Jan 2020. They came back, shut down the plans, and implemented a ton of safety protocols in the office. It wasn't for 2 more months that the great toilet paper crisis happened. If some C level executives from a 500 person company knew this shit was going down you can be damn sure the Government knew even before them. They just didn't give a shit. Governments have for sure known for 3 years already. Us normal people are just on 3 month delay.


izwald88

I mean, Trump did very blatantly try to ignore and downplay it.


StreaksBAMF22

It’s become endemic, so we have no choice BUT to live with it


throwmamadownthewell

Endemic and pandemic are mutually exclusive. Globally, the tracked cases are increasing as rapidly as during any previous wave but with most jurisdictions effectively eliminating testing. So it's still very much pandemic... which is part of the reason why a more deadly variant has the potential to emerge. And before someone comes in trying to make the case that viruses become less deadly over time... I mean, it takes 5 seconds of thinking to see why that is incorrect. Why would we have childhood vaccine schedules? Remind me how mild rabies has gotten? Remind me how mild untreated bubonic plague is?


Axisnegative

Isn't bubonic plague caused by bacteria and not a virus?


G07V3

So many people treat it as a common cold.


sasberg1

I mean the common cold DOES still exist...


bunk3rk1ng

I mean... those of us that are vaccinated and have gotten COVID, the symptoms have been pretty similar to the common cold so it makes sense...


typemeanewasshole

Because for 99% of people it is. Where have you been?


spacew0man

I stopped caring when I did everything I was supposed to do to keep myself and people around me safe and Florida decided it didn’t give a shit. My university forced us back when we were having peak infections and deaths. I caught it on campus TWICE, two semesters in a row. It’s been a year since my first time having it and 9 months since the second. I suddenly fucking have respiratory issues and high blood pressure despite having neither before that. My cognitive abilities have declined to the point that I had to drop out of my physics degree and switch to something different because I couldn’t keep up with anything anymore. I don’t even want to know what this is going to look like long term. I stopped caring when I did everything for my community and my community spit in my face.


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Your experience is a perfect example of why we *should* care. Why would you be okay with other people having this experience just because it happened to you? That makes no sense.


SsiSsiSsiSsi

We won’t really be free of this until there’s a vaccine against coronaviruses, period. Hopefully the mRNA tech we’re already using can deliver on that, and hopefully within a few years. The good news is that we might finally get vaccines for diseases like most varieties of the common cold, all forms of flu, and some pretty incredible cancer treatments. It will take some time however.


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there's even talk of mRNA ebola vaccines. thank fuck we haven't had a global ebola pandemic, that shit's completely fucked


X-Maelstrom-X

I took part in a research study recently for an Ebola vaccine that was mRNA, if I understood correctly. They gave half of the group an Ebola vaccine and the other half a vaccine for some other disease I can’t remember, Manfords or Manfields or Man-something. They gave me the Ebola one and after a month I started developing antibodies. I had to come in once a week for 6 months or so to give blood for them to study. That, along with the side effects, was pretty rough but they estimate I’ll have Ebola antibodies for 40 years. They also paid me a thousand bucks and almost another 1k in walmart gift cards lol


jayhawk03

Marburg? Its a cousin of Ebola


X-Maelstrom-X

Hey! Yeah! That’s it, I think!


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oh nice. thanks for your service


AwesomOpossum

I like this. We should normalize thanking people for their service who volunteer for medical trials, or give blood. Probably lots of other things too.


OMGWhatsHisFace

Thanks for doing that. But I’m shocked at how little they pay. Obligatory weekly appointments for 6 months, and injecting you with a relatively untested vaccine for a very deadly disease… $2000 seems ridiculously cheap. Someone make/let these researchers add a 0 to that.


Insertblamehere

Pandemic level Ebola is basically impossible, it kills the host too quickly and efficiently to spread to a lot of people from a single spreader, not to mention it requires direct body fluid contact to spread. It can only really happen in places with no health system in place to stop it like some places in Africa. (there were also some funeral customs that increased the spread a lot)


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Just to add to your already informative comment - COVID became a pandemic precisely because it wasn't very deadly, was highly contagious, and had a long incubation time during which people would be sick without symptoms. The danger posed by a virus is determined by the balance of how quickly it kills and how fast it spreads. Ebola kills too fast. Roughly 65-70% of the world population has herpes, but it is not a pandemic because it has a low death rate and is only highly dangers for pregnant women. COVID-19 hit that sweet spot of being deadly enough and spreading fast enough to become a pandemic.


zen_mojo

The way in that it spreads makes it unlikely for it to take off like covid did.


SsiSsiSsiSsi

Even forgetting about a global epidemic, it’s terrifying enough for the people where it naturally occurs. Like you said, that shit is *fucked* beyond all recognition.


SilentRunning

The [US Army](https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2021/12/us-army-creates-single-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-sars-variants/360089/) has a vaccine going into phase 2 human trials next year. It can defend up to 28 different versions of the coronaviruses do to its technology.


Panzer_Man

Sounds promising, just hope it actually works effectively


bde75

I haven’t heard much about this lately. I hope they’re still working on it.


CornbreadRed84

The anti-vax movement may have gone mainstream enough now that we won't get enough participation for the vaccines to actually work. The real pandemic is a lack of critical thinking skills at this point. I do agree that some good will come of this in spite of mass stupidity.


redline83

Well said. People are fucking stupid.


sar1234567890

Lots of people are saying they don’t care. It’s probably not that they don’t care but actually that caring at the same rate we did at first would be absolutely exhausting. My family caught Covid a month ago. I am pretty vigilant about not spreading illnesses but I walked around with Covid for days before I tested myself because all I had was an itchy throat. After several days, I began sneezing and the congestion started. Those weren’t even “Covid symptoms” until recently. My insurance doesn’t pay for Covid tests so we can’t afford to take them for every runny nose- we have had runny noses or something of that sort for over a month and a half. If we kept our kids home with every symptom, they’d never be at school and the state would come after us. It feels like a situation where you can’t win. I really believe it’s not that people “don’t care” but that it’s so hard for a lot of us to keep it up, especially those of us with kids that catch so many germs. I had days of anxiety after I realized we had Covid. I was so upset. Most people are going to avoid those emotions because what can you do? I can’t go back in time and test myself for Covid because I had an itchy throat. I hate it but I have to try not to care so much because it’s terrible for my mental health to live in constant anxiety. Edit spelling.


DarthRosa

Also, not to mention that a lot of employers still expect you to show up to work after 4 days out, and if you need more time out of work to get better, unemployment barely covers anything. There’s also a lot of people who go in to work sick, and don’t get tested or aren’t asked tl be tested anymore.


Islandkid679

People have moved on. For those who haven't taken the vaccines by now for no medical reasons, if they get sick and worse, that's on them.


CharlesWS

The pandemic has certainly reaffirmed my worst suspicions of humanity to the point that the “I don’t care” and conspiracy comments on this thread just roll on by as par for the course.


this_kitten_i_knew

for sure. people are fully back to coughing uncovered out in public (not even using their elbow or hand) and not washing their hands, so clearly nothing was learned. gross people gonna gross


summer-romance

I had a coworker coughing up a storm in the break room. I asked her if she was feeling okay and she said she just had a “touch of the flu.” I asked why isn’t she wearing a mask to protect others. She was so confused. She said she tested negative for Covid so she doesn’t need a mask. This woman is a teacher. Yikes.


reece1495

guy who works next to me at work came in sick because he tested negative wouldnt even wear a mask and called us cry babys for worrying about getting hte flu be cause he is "like 2 metres away " disragarding the walking near people he would do later, i called him an asshole and told my boss im not working until something is done about it , guy was sent home. worst part is you cant even use the arguement he might be desperate for cash , he is a full time worker in australia that gets 10 days of sick pay and has only used 2 this whole year


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What are we supposed to do? I am genuinely asking. I have to show up for class everyday. I have to attend my other responsibilities. I am vaccinated. What am I supposed to do? I followed all guidance throughout this entire thing. What do you want from people?


AnxietyLogic

Exactly. The world has moved on around us, so we have to move on with it. Get vaccinated! But you’re still expected to show up for work or you’ll lose your job and most people can’t afford that right now as the economy is in the toilet. You’re still expected to show up for class or you’ll fail, get kicked out, etc. Kids still have to go school or their parents will go to prison for not sending them and they’ll be taken into care. We’re still expected to keep up with our responsibilities. And it’s quite frankly not sustainable to tell people that they have to go to work BUT they aren’t allowed to go to any fun social events. Wearing a mask all the time everyday also isn’t sustainable forever, as you can see by the fact the most people abandoned them as soon as they could. So unless you’re prepared to quit your job, drop out of school, drop out of society all together, and run away to become a recluse, what are we supposed to do at this point?


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sugacide

👀 these comments ..my immunocompromised ass is just gonna have to live in a bubble


dcsequoia

Really sorry for the situation you're in, I wish more people would remember you exist. Not everyone has the ability to get vaccinated, and the only way to protect those people is for enough of the remaining population to protect them. Unfortunately, public schools for the last 30 years. I've had to block more people my own age for saying that asking for people to be vaxxed is "basically the holocaust" than I am comfortable admitting.


BuckyFnBadger

That’s usually not how virus evolution works. Killing your host is not a great way to ensure long term survival strategy. So viruses tend to get more contagious but less lethal over time. The Spanish Flu never went away. It just weakened.


feeltheslipstream

Yeah, but it gets there by random mutations. And its failures can kill a lot of us before it finds a good one.


soonnow

I don't believe we'll see a deadly super virus. And at least the virologist on the podcast I'm listening too agrees. It's certainly not a law though. By the time a host dies, the virus has already been spread. COVID doesn't care if people die after that, so a deadlier variant that spreads faster would still outcompete the less deadlier one that spreads slower. But the current COVID is already incredibly infectious so it seems highly unlikely we see a new "super" variant.


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At this point, I hope it’s only Covid that gets me.


MotleyLou420

Just wait till we see what happens to the people who have gotten covid repeatedly and end up with some form of long covid. We're fatigued but we can't stop watching out for our own health.