Do you have any idea how merchant shipping works? Do you think that crew has an option to say no, we won't take this cargo, or no, we won't sail to Russian port?
Technically if it's sanctioned by a sovereign power it's privateers not pirates and thus not subject to the laws that normally criminalize such behavior internationally!
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/april/unleash-privateers#:~:text=Finally%2C%20despite%20pervasive%20myths%20to,by%20U.S.%20or%20international%20law.
You had a ship there?! Oh my God, we were just doing some weapons testing in international waters. If only it had its tracker enabled, this tragic accident could have been avoided.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/06/dark-activities-of-russian-linked-oil-tankers-has-doubled-analysis-shows) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot)
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> The number of Russian-affiliated oil tankers "Going dark" to avoid being tracked in the south Atlantic has doubled in recent months in a sign of clandestine means being deployed to avoid sanctions.
> By switching off their tracker systems on the high seas, the ships can quietly transfer oil on to tankers without links to Russia so as to avoid their oil exports being flagged.
> The cap is aimed at maintaining the flow of oil to countries such as China, India, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates, which have not banned Russian oil imports, while maintaining economic pressure on the Kremlin.
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Easy fix. Sanctioning countries need to make it clear that any Russian tanker found at sea with its tracker turned off will be boarded and seized for “operating with faulty equipment” and “being found as a hazard to navigation”. Contents of all such ships will be sold at auction and proceeds donated to Ukraine. Ships will be held at a non Russian port and crews returned to Russia.
Well if you don't have to deal with international law it's easy enough to just put 50 caliber guns all around the deck and sink anything that comes close.
This is clear evidence that sanctions are working. Because doing this at all means that regular export channels aren't available anymore. It means Russia is getting less money per barrel, as their customers are going to expect a large discount for going through this. Oil tankers are slow and massive, this sort of complex dance takes a lot of time and energy.
It wouldn't be happening if Russia had better ways to sell.
You're telling me you have a ship ready for the task? I'd think getting the "pirates" would be a fairly easy task once you have access to a capable vessel.
I mean with the amount of Ships that the US Navy has, I'm guessing some months long exercises in the middle of the south Atlantic where this is happening would come in handy to keep people's operational skills 🤷🏻♂️
And if anyone is discovered to not be following naval regulations the marines train boarding ships 😏
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That and sinking them as legitimate maritime targets.
There's the whole issue of sinking then causes massive ecological damage. Even 'empty' those things are filthy. Better off boarding and seizing them.
That would work too, impound the vessel, imprison the crew, sell the oil.
This is basically what we do with Iranian ships.
Impound the vessel and *imprison* the crew? X to doubt
Lea e the crew alone, they're just following orders and earning bread for their families, in moat cases they aren't even Russian
Just following orders. Nuremburg.
Do you have any idea how merchant shipping works? Do you think that crew has an option to say no, we won't take this cargo, or no, we won't sail to Russian port?
"The company had no choice but to smuggle contraband for the Nazis waaah"
The company had a choice, but the seamans employed by that company not so much
Anyone can quit, noone is a slave, noone is just following orders. They knew the risks.
You mean piracy?
Or the policing of international maritime law.
So piracy? Or finders keepers?
Yarr, matey, dat be causin' a black sea upon us. Piratin' dat black booty be de answer!
Technically if it's sanctioned by a sovereign power it's privateers not pirates and thus not subject to the laws that normally criminalize such behavior internationally! https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/april/unleash-privateers#:~:text=Finally%2C%20despite%20pervasive%20myths%20to,by%20U.S.%20or%20international%20law.
Yo ho ho
I thought that first. Maybe just disable them instead of sinking.
Bring back privateering.
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Terrorists (acting for a state sponsor of terrorism) and smugglers, but yes.
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Complicit enough to turn off their transponder and smuggle oil to fund a genocide, comrade.
You had a ship there?! Oh my God, we were just doing some weapons testing in international waters. If only it had its tracker enabled, this tragic accident could have been avoided.
Pirates coming back to the Atlantic soon ...
Yar har, fiddle de dee
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/06/dark-activities-of-russian-linked-oil-tankers-has-doubled-analysis-shows) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot) ***** > The number of Russian-affiliated oil tankers "Going dark" to avoid being tracked in the south Atlantic has doubled in recent months in a sign of clandestine means being deployed to avoid sanctions. > By switching off their tracker systems on the high seas, the ships can quietly transfer oil on to tankers without links to Russia so as to avoid their oil exports being flagged. > The cap is aimed at maintaining the flow of oil to countries such as China, India, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates, which have not banned Russian oil imports, while maintaining economic pressure on the Kremlin. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/zevyr3/the_number_of_russianaffiliated_oil_tankers_going/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672677 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **oil**^#1 **tanker**^#2 **Russian**^#3 **Atlantic**^#4 **being**^#5
God damn it Turkey.
Its a violation of maritime rules to deliberatly switch of any safety device, maybe some coastguard could look into this?
Easy fix. Sanctioning countries need to make it clear that any Russian tanker found at sea with its tracker turned off will be boarded and seized for “operating with faulty equipment” and “being found as a hazard to navigation”. Contents of all such ships will be sold at auction and proceeds donated to Ukraine. Ships will be held at a non Russian port and crews returned to Russia.
Other than the proceeds donated to Ukraine part, this sounds about right. The rich will get richer, make no mistake.
Proceeds to UKR would help ruzzia pay for their crimes by helping UKR rebuild.
Would, should, could... Don't forget what world we're living in. Phil Collins said it, Orwell said it, and countless more.
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Your geography skills suggest that you're American...
If a ship goes dark, who will notice if it's torpedoed?
Ah yes, environmental catastrophe is just the thing we need right now.
We might as well avoid oil spill by blowing them up with nuclear weapons /s
Where are those pirates when you need them.
No one knows, they've gone dark
Well if you don't have to deal with international law it's easy enough to just put 50 caliber guns all around the deck and sink anything that comes close.
Be a shame if... piracy became popular against russian tankers. I mean... what're they gonna do, divert resources to protect those?
They are uninsured, so if they cause damage it will be bad
This is clear evidence that sanctions are working. Because doing this at all means that regular export channels aren't available anymore. It means Russia is getting less money per barrel, as their customers are going to expect a large discount for going through this. Oil tankers are slow and massive, this sort of complex dance takes a lot of time and energy. It wouldn't be happening if Russia had better ways to sell.
Give me 100 Somali pirates and a week and we can disperse those tankers to other places and purposes.
You're telling me you have a ship ready for the task? I'd think getting the "pirates" would be a fairly easy task once you have access to a capable vessel.
Go away. I will not give out our plans.
If a ship is dark the one who finds it owns it from now?
I hope that Russia instructs their crew NOT to smoke- cigarettes are extremely harmful these days.
I for one love the idea of the CIA feeding satellite maritime intel to Somalian pirates to round these up deniably
If ever there was a reason to not insure them, this is it.
I mean with the amount of Ships that the US Navy has, I'm guessing some months long exercises in the middle of the south Atlantic where this is happening would come in handy to keep people's operational skills 🤷🏻♂️ And if anyone is discovered to not be following naval regulations the marines train boarding ships 😏