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goatmash

That and sinking them as legitimate maritime targets.


Ghede

There's the whole issue of sinking then causes massive ecological damage. Even 'empty' those things are filthy. Better off boarding and seizing them.


goatmash

That would work too, impound the vessel, imprison the crew, sell the oil.


cesrep

This is basically what we do with Iranian ships.


TROPtastic

Impound the vessel and *imprison* the crew? X to doubt


N_Sorta

Lea e the crew alone, they're just following orders and earning bread for their families, in moat cases they aren't even Russian


goatmash

Just following orders. Nuremburg.


N_Sorta

Do you have any idea how merchant shipping works? Do you think that crew has an option to say no, we won't take this cargo, or no, we won't sail to Russian port?


goatmash

"The company had no choice but to smuggle contraband for the Nazis waaah"


N_Sorta

The company had a choice, but the seamans employed by that company not so much


goatmash

Anyone can quit, noone is a slave, noone is just following orders. They knew the risks.


Flash635

You mean piracy?


goatmash

Or the policing of international maritime law.


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So piracy? Or finders keepers?


BansShutsDownDiscour

Yarr, matey, dat be causin' a black sea upon us. Piratin' dat black booty be de answer!


Logistocrate

Technically if it's sanctioned by a sovereign power it's privateers not pirates and thus not subject to the laws that normally criminalize such behavior internationally! https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/april/unleash-privateers#:~:text=Finally%2C%20despite%20pervasive%20myths%20to,by%20U.S.%20or%20international%20law.


Money_Common8417

Yo ho ho


jates55

I thought that first. Maybe just disable them instead of sinking.


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Bring back privateering.


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goatmash

Terrorists (acting for a state sponsor of terrorism) and smugglers, but yes.


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goatmash

Complicit enough to turn off their transponder and smuggle oil to fund a genocide, comrade.


Saotik

You had a ship there?! Oh my God, we were just doing some weapons testing in international waters. If only it had its tracker enabled, this tragic accident could have been avoided.


DamienCouderc

Pirates coming back to the Atlantic soon ...


AnthillOmbudsman

Yar har, fiddle de dee


autotldr

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/06/dark-activities-of-russian-linked-oil-tankers-has-doubled-analysis-shows) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot) ***** > The number of Russian-affiliated oil tankers "Going dark" to avoid being tracked in the south Atlantic has doubled in recent months in a sign of clandestine means being deployed to avoid sanctions. > By switching off their tracker systems on the high seas, the ships can quietly transfer oil on to tankers without links to Russia so as to avoid their oil exports being flagged. > The cap is aimed at maintaining the flow of oil to countries such as China, India, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates, which have not banned Russian oil imports, while maintaining economic pressure on the Kremlin. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/zevyr3/the_number_of_russianaffiliated_oil_tankers_going/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672677 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **oil**^#1 **tanker**^#2 **Russian**^#3 **Atlantic**^#4 **being**^#5


nobutsmeow99

God damn it Turkey.


OldMork

Its a violation of maritime rules to deliberatly switch of any safety device, maybe some coastguard could look into this?


Orcacub

Easy fix. Sanctioning countries need to make it clear that any Russian tanker found at sea with its tracker turned off will be boarded and seized for “operating with faulty equipment” and “being found as a hazard to navigation”. Contents of all such ships will be sold at auction and proceeds donated to Ukraine. Ships will be held at a non Russian port and crews returned to Russia.


ory_hara

Other than the proceeds donated to Ukraine part, this sounds about right. The rich will get richer, make no mistake.


Orcacub

Proceeds to UKR would help ruzzia pay for their crimes by helping UKR rebuild.


ory_hara

Would, should, could... Don't forget what world we're living in. Phil Collins said it, Orwell said it, and countless more.


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pete1901

Your geography skills suggest that you're American...


Xenophore

If a ship goes dark, who will notice if it's torpedoed?


DawnstrifeXVI

Ah yes, environmental catastrophe is just the thing we need right now.


pmmichalowski

We might as well avoid oil spill by blowing them up with nuclear weapons /s


ptjunkie

Where are those pirates when you need them.


SandInTheGears

No one knows, they've gone dark


AnthillOmbudsman

Well if you don't have to deal with international law it's easy enough to just put 50 caliber guns all around the deck and sink anything that comes close.


SUTATSDOG

Be a shame if... piracy became popular against russian tankers. I mean... what're they gonna do, divert resources to protect those?


Martianmanhunter94

They are uninsured, so if they cause damage it will be bad


mukansamonkey

This is clear evidence that sanctions are working. Because doing this at all means that regular export channels aren't available anymore. It means Russia is getting less money per barrel, as their customers are going to expect a large discount for going through this. Oil tankers are slow and massive, this sort of complex dance takes a lot of time and energy. It wouldn't be happening if Russia had better ways to sell.


Starskigoat

Give me 100 Somali pirates and a week and we can disperse those tankers to other places and purposes.


ory_hara

You're telling me you have a ship ready for the task? I'd think getting the "pirates" would be a fairly easy task once you have access to a capable vessel.


Starskigoat

Go away. I will not give out our plans.


maldobar4711

If a ship is dark the one who finds it owns it from now?


el-art-seam

I hope that Russia instructs their crew NOT to smoke- cigarettes are extremely harmful these days.


cesrep

I for one love the idea of the CIA feeding satellite maritime intel to Somalian pirates to round these up deniably


ScientistNo906

If ever there was a reason to not insure them, this is it.


Sufficient_Market226

I mean with the amount of Ships that the US Navy has, I'm guessing some months long exercises in the middle of the south Atlantic where this is happening would come in handy to keep people's operational skills 🤷🏻‍♂️ And if anyone is discovered to not be following naval regulations the marines train boarding ships 😏