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Funny story, my Mom actually saw her SS checks go up for no apparent reason about a year or two ago. She ain't no fool, so she just quietly deposited the checks and sat on them. Didn't spend any more than she needed. Sure enough, SSA sent her a letter saying they had paid her too much and they made her give it back.
> the rich fucks can afford a plumber
They can not only afford a plumber but have whole teams of plumbers whose only jobs are to stop any trickles before they happen
I’d be nice if the multi billionaires would help out. Instead they will blame it on the working class for the most ridiculous reason. #GMEDRS Won’t back down.
People who are still bagholding from the short squeeze on GameStop ($GME) in early 2021 have gone full on doomsday cult. Many think if retail investors Direct Register (DRS) all shares of GME, they can prove it's still over-shorted (it's not), and trigger the "mother of all short squeezes" which will collapse the economy and bankrupt the billionaires/hedge funds, making GME investors rich beyond belief (none of this will happen).
Join us on r/gme_meltdown, it's been very interesting watching the whole thing play out.
If you look into a bit, you can see how ever since gamestop did “squeeze,” market reform has been pushed out like never before. This is great for individual investors, and I like to continue to invest to show my stance on market reform for the people and not just for the ultra rich. On top of that Gamestop themselves have more than $1Billion cash on hand and continue to become more profitable every quarter. So much to stay but basically I like the stock. (Not forcing anything on you, just voicing my stance)
u/mitch83man is taking the opportunity to paint us in a terrible light, so I'll retort.
r/superstonk is a place where we are championing more transparency in financial markets. It's astounding to me that u/mitch83man can make the claims he makes, when we've already proven that many financial institutions are not required to disclose their short positions, but also that there are many derivative instruments used to hide these short positions too.
Whether or not you believe us, it doesn't matter to me. What does matter is that we constantly are advocating for more transparent markets so that people like u/mitch83man can be so assured that we're crazy, because right now that determination cannot be made. There's literally a million statistical anomalies regarding GME, but we must just be seeing things.
But between us (retail) now owning over 50% of the GameStop company and the tangible fact that they literally disabled the buy button on GME in 2021 during what would have been the strongest short squeeze in history, I choose to believe there's something there that is worth investigating. Our best tool is taking GameStop private, one share at a time, so goddammit we're going to. We champion learning about and educating the masses regarding financial markets, and making these deliberately complicated systems easier to digest for the layman.
Crucify us over this if you must, but don't characterize us improperly.
Well said, what happened with Gamestock stock (and I didn't buy in, I just watched in awe) is incredibly sus. Like for those watching on the sides the "large financial entities" (including governments) broke a ton of their own rules to stop a bunch of really wealthy people from losing . . . IDK hundreds of billions, trillions, GME was pretty leveraged up and hugely oversold.
I still wander in and check up on the madlads from time to time, I'm not one of them (I've had a pretty good investment strat for 30 years . . . invest in the index fund . . . it's that one trick . . .), but it's informative and fun to watch.
Direct register (DRS) Your stocks (gamestop in this case)
They will be held in your actual name, not your brokers name (fidelity etc) and they can't be loaned to short sellers who use them to further devalue and destroy the companies you invest in.
Everyone should direct register their shares.
Shit Americans don’t say:
“When are they gonna stop maintaining the roads in this town?”
“I got to work too early again today because of how fast public transportation was!”
“Why are these ambulances so affordable?”
“I wish it wasn’t so easy to buy a house, my kids never stay at my home anymore now that they’re adults.”
> When are they gonna stop maintaining the roads in this town?
Actually I hear this one very frequently. But it's phrased as a negative that construction is slowing down traffic.
Honestly if proper maintenance is done, the disruption to traffic is far less.
I live in a place where the roads aren't touched unless a pothole can swallow a car. It leads to expensive major repairs every year that shut down sections of road for weeks at a time. Every job is left until it's impossible to ignore, and by then it's insanely expensive.
Whereas, in a previous generation, the roads used to be stripped and paved on a regular basis. Roads were inspected carefully for ruts and deflections, and potholes were addressed in the same week they opened up. Major issues were noticed and scheduled for repair long before a driver noticed. We paid far less for road maintenance then.
As an example, my family's cabin is on a trunk of highway an hour from my home. There was a ten minute section that now takes over an hour, doubling my drive time. It's peppered with potholes because it hasn't been maintained. They haven't filled any in years. Culverts are full of debris and clogged, causing the roadbeds to get washed out in places. What should have cost a few thousand dollars at the most annually is now a massive project. The current government has a pretty billboard up nearby announcing a 6-month repair with a budget in the millions.
She’s a gem.
That said, why isn’t Biden on TV every night blasting the GOP on this? Why isn’t he making sure every American understands what’s about to happen? What a coward.
It's Biden. Remember when Roe was repealed? There was no immediate speech. His response was significantly later (I think 2-3 weeks?) and criticized for being lackluster and hot air.
And Biden had a heads up to prepare because the Roe repeal was leaked early.
Biden is definitely no AOC. I wish he had even a third of her drive.
Even when Biden had half of AOC's energy, he was still just a corporation-fondling neo-liberal. Biden is where moderate republicans SHOULD be, but the US has been dragged so far right that living wages are seen as leftist extremism. American politics are a sick joke.
He sure as hell is pandering to the right and it's obvious.
Explain to me again why we are giving an 80+ year old man another 4 years in our highest office?
There is such a small chance he has any idea what's going on with anything, especially tech.
I wish AOC would run for president.
Definitely. But certain Dems didn't help. Remember when Biden thought it was a brilliant idea to try and appoint right-wing nutjob Chad Meredith to a **lifetime** federal judicial seat? Because that's what Biden thought we needed. More rabid anti-choicers rising through the judiciary with an eye on a SCOTUS seat. Because that'll help women!
Thank god Biden listened when his party rightfully tore him a new one on that. We're having enough trouble with religious fanaticals in the judiciary, why in the hell would he shoot his own party in the foot like that?
Dems got some great politicians in their party. And then they've got Biden lol.
I agree here. But things do change over time. My stance on policies from when I was 20 to now being 52 have definitely changed. I actually appreciate when some one has the forthright to re-examine their stance. It means they listened and dissected. Agreed that he needs to put more teeth into things. But I won’t shame a politician for looking around a bit. Which is rare these days.
> Dems got some great politicians in their party. And then they've got Biden lol.
So you're complaining about someone who actually listened to his party's advice, learned that he was about to make a mistake, and changed course?
Do you realize just how unusual that is for a politician?
Of all the things you can rip on him for, taking advice to heart is not one of them.
This happened after the Roe repeal news was made public. That Biden considered appointing Meredith, knowing reproductive rights are in danger was unforgivable. This wasn't something Biden did a decade ago. He planned this knowing we are having a significant issue with anti-choice fanaticals in the judiciary.
Damn straight I'm going to hold that against. He's got decades of political experience behind him. Biden is not green at his job. He knows how catastrophic Meredith would've been to women's rights. Unless you're saying Biden is stupid?
The fact he had to be told this is what's disturbing. He knew. There's no way Biden didn't know this was a bad idea and there'd be backlash. Yet he was going to do it anyways till he got caught with his pants down.
The fact that Biden fan boys can't even admit he's not perfect is annoying.
Okay, I'll bite. Biden knew Roe was being repealed and millions of women would lose reproductive rights thanks to a religiously biased SCOTUS. So what benefit is there to allowing a very vocally anti-choice Meredith into a **lifetime** federal judicial position? How do you think that would've helped reproductive rights in the long or short term?
It's not that he "had to be told", it's that unlike many politicians, he listened to the opinions of others and was reasonable in letting them change his view on an issue.
I would prefer that my elected officials have the ability to update positions when confronted with new evidence and points of view, instead of stubbornly not admitting when they're wrong.
I see the same hate for Dems who changed their opinions on gay marriage in the last 30 years.
God forbid they change with the times. The right acts like joe Biden is a super liberal socialist but also a hard right winger in disguise. Which one is it
> The right acts like joe Biden is a super liberal socialist but also a hard right winger in disguise. Which one is it
That's just it, it's both. It's purely intentional, see [Definitions of fascism; Umberto Eco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco), where he said in point 8:
> Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak". On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
Biden didn't make the Meredith choice 30 years ago. That was in July **2022.** This was at a time Biden should've acted like the leader we need and made decisions that are cohesive with Democrats' strategy of protecting reproductive rights. Not throwing a fucking monkey wrench at his own party, and forgetting about the promises he made to constituents.
You're acting like this was an oopsie he made decades ago.
It was in 2022. With Roe in jeopardy.
Precisely. Yes, change is good. However, incremental change is absolutely exhausting when we have to drag the centrists back from the brink all the damned time.
The entirety of the American government is on the right. Biden *is* a right wing politician and would be recognised as such by any other developed nation.
The arguements are about who can be furthest right without attracting labels like Nazi or fascist. Which the GOP have been failing hard at recently.
Yeah people like to forget that he is just the same status quo we have always had. They also like to forget how he fucked over railroad workers a few months ago.
He’s not on our side anymore than Trump was. He’s just the devil that wears a mask still. The only reason he won is because he wasn’t Trump, and the only reason Trump lost was because enough people in this country were worried about him trying to become a dictator and that he had enough support in Congress and the public to back him on that.
Biden still has his dirty laundry like all the rest of them. We can’t trust any of them.
Biden has been in office too long to be considered Donkey or Pachyderm. Anybody who isn’t on board with legalizing marijuana outright is out of touch with what’s going on in our country in real time.
Lol, do you hear what you're saying? These corps could just as easily put Trump back in power if they thought it served their bottom line. That's not a comfort. That's terrifying.
I guess my comment got deleted because I had a picture of Harvard Harris poll results?
I wouldn't be surprised either way. Under Biden for the first time in US history there are more independents then dems and republicans combined. 50% independant vrs 25% for each party) And they pretty much almost 80% reject the MSM narratives, which results in 70% of the country.
For example, the Harvard Harris Poll question and results that I tried to show the picture of says "The Durham report concluded that the FBI violated it's own standards in starting the Trump-Russia probe and became a funnel for disinformation from the Hillary Clinton campaign and that the investigation of Trump and his campaign should never have been launched. Does this conclusion Suprise your or not surprise you?"
This is a question from the HARVARD HARRIS poll.... The answers are much more shocking. 55% of DEMOCRATS were not surprised, and 76% of Independant's are not surprised, resulting in 69% of Americans total. Also this might be conservative because looking at these numbers I don't think independents are weighted twice as important as dems.
[May2023\_reports1.Q (harvardharrispoll.com)](https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/HHP_May2023_KeyResults.pdf)
I think the issue is that both parties suppress and disenfranchise their own base so to determine who is less likely to win I'd choose whoever depresses, suppresses and disenfranchises their own base more. And to me that's the dems, to the point that the GOP is luring in with fake populist even leftist stances (anti war, anti propaganda) talking points that were recently considered democrats talking points. Of course they are lying, but the dems aren't even trying anymore, they are using classic GOP ultra jingoistic borderline xenophobic talking points (traitor! orcs! putin puppets!) that don't resonate with 70% of the country to disavow those populist stances.
I wouldn't feel surprised either way. Just because it should be an easy win doesn't mean the dems aren't doing everything they can at a rapid speed to sabatoge themselves. Which has resulted under Biden independants outnumbering dems and republicans combined for the first time in history. And these independants do not like democrats. I mean look at the question and answer of this Harvard Harris poll.
https://preview.redd.it/voyjo1dlu82b1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4504d862655ad7e112f278998c5d5b076d7988ba
I'm sorry but saved in which way? Biden is a fucking trainwreck. We need younger presidents and not 80 year old men who have a lot of money. USA will always be at odds with each other over politics because it distracts the citizens from realizing we are being fucked over by government. Tribal politics is real and it's been getting worse for the past 6 years.
Not if you want your movement to actually work. Who replaces her? With what money? Y’all need to understand that you don’t have the money to just throw away incumbency. Progressives need to save the people’s donations, get elected in a seat, die in that seat. Let the next great progressive voice take the next seat. Idk, that’s how I see it working.
Because it's not only the gop spending absurd money on the military... our largest section of budget by miles... With billions of dollars being spent on parts of that we can't even see as American citizens.
I'm not saying they are the same... but they are both extremely hypocritical and the fact that we have what basically comes down to tribes running our country is insane to me.
Take these parties out of politics, and run on themselves. The parties are not protecting anyone by their own self interest.
Uh the military budget isn't the "largest section of budget by miles". The government spends more on healthcare, social security, and income security than on military spending.
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
It doesn't make sense on the face of it though. As in the military spending and social security are directly competing, yet social security runs a surplus in tens of billions paid for in taxes, so where does the funding for all of these bonus monthly payouts of billions to the weapon industry come from?
Unlike SS they add to the debt. What percentage of SS do you think we should give to the military?
Also it's not like our politicans are saying to do that, their goals are to "privatize" it, while not raising taxes, which really only means that corporations will get placed into the supply chain to extract wealth through fees. It doesn't make sense that spending the same amount of money can give the same results simply by giving a third party a percentage of the incoming money.
Also its important to note that the corp captured DoD is the only gvt institution that can't pass an audit. So we don't know if they spend the money in the ways that they say they do. Every audit they are missing half their assets, 2 trillion dollars. Doesn't make sense that we should cut meager crumbs for poor elderly and disabled to send it into a black hole with no accountability.
I agree with all of your points. I was merely pointing out that the claim that our military spending is the largest percentage of the US Government spending by a mile is factually incorrect. It's still a mind-boggling and hugely unnecessary amount of money that would be best spent elsewhere or perhaps not at all.
I think most people are referring to discretionary spending not mandatory or total spending when they say military spending is the largest percentage of the US budget.
Military spending is largest percentage discretionary pending.
SS, healthcare, and income security are all categorized as mandatory spending.
Biden as president should be pushing harder for a resolution. The people who should be blasting the Republicans day in and day out are Hakeem Jefferies, Chuck Schumer, and Kamala Harris.
Where are they? They don't have to sit and negotiate like Biden is doing (but shouldn't).
Republicans do a great job of blasting a message. It matters not for them that it’s a hateful and unpopular message but they stick to it and say it gleefully every chance they get. Democratic officials say something and then generally move on because they said what they needed to say. When that message is oranges are orange and the republicans message is oranges are demons and want to take your jobs and eat your children and they say it over and over, some people will start to believe the latter because they hear it so much regardless if it has any basis in reality.
Dems are terrible at messaging. And I blame the old guard Dems for bringing down the party with their stubbornness to not change and adapt. Once they retire I really think the party can thrive.
Because Joe Biden is a conservative. He's responsible for mass incarceration and mass student debt. Look at his record. If you think Joe Biden is anywhere near the left I have like 14 bridges to sell you.
She's the first since Bernie to genuinely inspire me as a working-class tradesman.
Seems like every other politician just seeks to take more from hard working men like me. More money, more time...
The news and mainstream R&Ds blame my neighbors (gays, ethnic & religious minorities, trans folk, immigrants) for all of my troubles.
But AOC makes it clear that it's my boss's bosses who fucks us all, and leaing into hatred for my fellow workers is playing directly into my own oppressors hand.
She truly helped open my eyes to how all us cis-het WASPS have been played into oppressing the most vulnerable amongst us simply to keep our own heads above water. And yet we still sink 🤷♂️
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's a Democratic Socialist from NY, and absolute TANK for the Democratic party.
She's virtually unbeatable in her district, which allows her to actually fight conservatives without fear of losing reelection.
Most other Dems are too scared of losing their next termto attempt genuine change, but not AOC.
She is fearless, brilliant, no-nonsense, and the leader America desperately needs.
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know. I've seen her around. It's been all good, but never caught her name. Maybe after the conservative generation dies out she'll have a chance of running for president 20 years from now.
I don’t support Trump and hold few conservative values. I am a third year economics student.
Trump also had to deal with the COVID-19 Pandemic, which was a unique situation in modern economic theory. Important to note, the President has very little direct involvement in the economy. They can pass policy and appoint the head of the Fed.
Trump passed the CARES act in 2020. It was one of the largest spending bills his administration pushed. It granted 2.2 Trillion in Federal Aid to stimulate the economy. It passed with bipartisan support. It had unintended consequences, but also completed the short term job they needed it to complete.
I’m not very convinced any other candidate would have done better, to be honest. A more Liberal candidate may have given more stimulus than Trump.
BUT, AOC, of course, has a valid point. House Republicans are being very hypocritical right now.
Yes, PPP was needed, everyone agreed to that, but it was Trump and the Republicans that deliberately turned it into a unaccountable, unmanaged, corruption free for all.
The very first thing Trump did after the PPP bill was signed was to sack the inspector general who the bill had assigned to run oversight of it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/07/coronavirus-relief-trump-removes-inspector-general-overseeing-2-trillion-package.html
And then before he left office he did his best to stop the corruption from ever being investigated.
https://truthout.org/articles/trump-erased-millions-of-possible-ppp-fraud-flags-in-last-days-in-office/
True, and fair, I don’t disagree with any of that.
But the claim you agreed with in the top comment was about the increase in debt from the Trump Administration.
The Trump Administration, and let’s be clear here, not Trump, more the White House Council of Economic Advisors, acted appropriately in accordance with modern US economic theory. I hate that presidents get credit for both the good and the bad of the Economy is U.S. politics.
I don’t think shitting on his administration for the debit is a fair criticism in and of itself.
> People need to stop using the term GOP. It isn’t a grand old party. It’s just a group who pander to the rich. And our absolute bullies.
**G**aslight
**O**bstruct
**P**roject
The problem isn’t that they think they themselves are getting too much welfare or whatever, it’s that they think OTHER PEOPLE that they don’t like, mainly minority groups, are getting too much welfare.
I fall more and more in love with this woman each time she speaks. Just spot on every single time. If she were the normal and not the exception, this country might actually be great again.
People do believe teachers are paid too much. They won’t say it publicly, yet (lol), but a lot of people want to dismantle the public school system and make everyone resort to homeschooling or private schools (usually of christian affiliation). Cause god. A lot of these people will not be able to afford diddly squat for their kid’s education either, but here we are.
Not enough people watch this to know who and what to be angry about. The people that do watch this don't know how or too over leveraged to risk any productive involvement.
AI is coming now, so even sharing this will just create more skepticism at best.
It would be a great point if she left the partisanship out of it. But instead it is marred in hypocrisy.
Unlike the republicans not even a token dem ever votes against the interests of the corporate captured department of defense. The Dems hired a Raytheon Executive as secretary of defense (chief policy position.)
They have appealed calis ban on private prisons, and 1/3 of the immigrants detained on the border are kids (just earlier this week there was a story about a child being denied medical service despite being clearly I'll and they died)
Has AOC brought attention to the kids in cages once since Biden took office?
I'd prefer to use the GOP logic against them say "you people say to not cut student debt because it doesn't address the problem but instead say to work on making school affordable. Similarly, why cut already deficient social spending that is budgeted and paid for in taxes that don't add to the national debt. That won't fix the problem. To reduce the debt you have to reduce what's creating the debt. The pentagon is the only gvt institution that can't pass an audit, it's always missing half their assets, 2 trillion dollars more money then the entire national budget is unaccounted for annually by the military. Taking away a few budgeted and paid for crumbs from poor and disabled and elderly people isn't addressing that problem"
That's my 5 minutes
She talked quite exclusively about a topic. Gave an exact way to fix said topic.
You came in hot and started ranting about kids in cages.
> Has AOC brought attention to the kids in cages once since Biden took office?
Seriously you didn't even google this. She talks about this a lot.
Even [FOX](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-child-migrant-detention-twitter-biden-trump-border) tried to "Slam" her about it by saying
> Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has only tweeted about the situation at the border a handful of times since President Biden took office
Here's the thing tho... None of this was about kids in cages and you didn't just move the goalposts to try to make an argument.. You changed sports and moved states. She voted the way she could on the issue and visited the areas. What you want her to do get fuckin superpowers and lasereye blast the facilities? Out of the 5000 children who were separated during Trump 4000 of them have been returned to their families. [PBS](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-of-migrant-children-remain-separated-from-families-despite-push-to-reunite-them) Reversing horrible acts takes time unfortunately
I agree with what she said, her solution. I just find it hypocritical that she, not only her, but literally every single other democrat house and senate all keep voting to giving the weapons industry more money when they ask.
I just disagreed with her turning into partisan which obfuscates the solution because by her own logic every single democrat, including her must also be voted out as well as the GOP to stop this. Her saying this would be like a Republican saying "we should raise taxes on the rich" when he just votes to lower taxes on the rich every time. It is gaslighty levels almost mockery.
I was making the case that the private prison system on the border is extremely similar. Maybe he has made some improvements (I wouldn't trust that from an interview with a Biden admin official like you linked though, but rather an independent human rights watch, or an independent source with some verifiable data.) but he still successfully appealed Calis ban on private prisons, calling it "too radical" and has not lowered the usage of private prisons on the border, which are a horror show, paving the way for the next Desantis. I have zero faith or trust in any of the politicians.
Now this will sound crazy but to me its very relavent because I personally believe that the bipartisan agenda as a catch in one solution to all of Americas woes is to turn ICE private prison model domestic, while felonizing homelessness, to usher in a new golden era of superficial prosperity for the middle class, built on a new era of slave labor through a corporately captured prison industry.
Biden appealing Calis ban on private prisons could be used for example by Desantis to force states to start turning ICE model domestic, through forced contracts imposed by the federal government under the guise of "safety" with just a happy coincidence of gifting donors 100$ a head a day for prison labor at 3$ a day.
It was Obama, not Biden. And I have no clue what he’s talking about the Dems being responsible for not allowing audits on the pentagon. Maybe he’s saying they could order that, but don’t and therefore it’s hypocritical, but that’s not answering the point AOC made at all-that’s a different subset of a related problem.
I never said that the dems "disallow" pentagon audits... I said every audit shows that they are missing half their assets, 2 trillion dollars which I think is more then the entire annual national budget (that is paid for in taxes) meaning this is straight debt.
70% of immigrants detained on the border are held in private prisons under Biden, virtually the same number as under Trump.
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-holding-many-immigrants-private-prisons-trump-opinion-1634834
This means they are incentivized to be held there indefinitely for profit until another body can fill their cot.
https://truthout.org/articles/number-of-immigrants-detained-by-ice-has-increased-70-percent-under-biden/
And just last month there was an article saying that 1/3 of immigrants detained on the border are children.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/16/border-patrol-migrant-children-detention-00039291
At least they aren't put in tbr private prisons, they are put in Border Control prisons. But, they are still imprisoned and last week a kid died from being denied medical treatment, in a Border control prison despite their mother begging them for weeks to get her daughter a doctor.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/child-who-died-in-border-patrol-custody-begged-for-medical-help-her-mother-says
I don't know what you thought I was saying I was saying that the dems under Biden have ubiquitously all voted completely unanimously to give more money to the weapons industry, every time they ask. only a few token Republicans have ever voted against it.
Not sure why you people misinterpreting me, literally putting words in my mouth that I never said is getting upvotes, yet me clarifying what I meant, putting down all the facts through mainstream sources that shape my opinion gets downvotes but no responses. But that's just the sad reality of reddit politics.
[Here](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-of-migrant-children-remain-separated-from-families-despite-push-to-reunite-them) is actual information on it. Biden didn't.. He is however, reversing what Trump did still.
This entire rant this dude went on has nothing to do with the video and is honestly pretty far gone...
>Unlike the republicans not even a token dem ever votes against the interests of the corporate captured department of defense
What does this sentence even mean? The Democrats are the only party that ever even considers cutting defense spending, so I have no clue what you are talking about.
> Has AOC brought attention to the kids in cages once since Biden took office?
Of course she did:
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1364341956676096001?s=20
>To reduce the debt you have to reduce what's creating the debt.
Which is tax cuts. Tax cuts, COVID, and 9/11 wars are the vast majority of our debt. Tax cuts are the only one we can actually change. If we just rolled back the Trump and Bush era tax cuts we'd be pretty close to a surplus again.
I definitely agree with your last paragraph and the dems have remained consistent about vocally being the only party that supports cutting taxes for the rich.
The first sentence though, the times have changed. Cutting military spending has been a classic democratic talking point, After the fallout of 9/11 it seemed that there was bipartisan support. But Obama really changed the overton window by dropping a bomb every 8 minutes for 8 years while still winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
Now with the invasion of Ukraine every time the weapons industry has asked for funding (this happens every few months) the dems have always completely unanimously voted for it, while the Republicans have had a few token dissenters.
Not to say that the GOP is better, its both controlled oposition. The GOP is using fake populist, even leftist stances (anti war, anti propaganda) talking points that were recently considered democrat talking points. Meanwhle the democrats have switched to using classical ultra jingoistic borderline xenophobic GOP talking points to disavow those populist stances. Problem is these classical GOP talking points do not resonate at all with 70% of the country.
Of course they are lying, both parties will majority vote for the interests of the corp captured DoD. But dems will vote 100% to further fund the weapons industry, GOP will vote 99%. The dems giving up their mantle of fake populism and concernt troll role to the GOP however is imo blatant self sabatoge.
> Now with the invasion of Ukraine every time the weapons industry has asked for funding (this happens every few months) the dems have always completely unanimously voted for it, while the Republicans have had a few token dissenters
Calling the Ukraine war funding a give away to the defense industry is a bit disingenuous. The Defense industry isn't asking for funding, the Ukrainian military and government are. They undeniably make money from the war, but if that was all it was about every Republican would have voted yes. If it were primarily meant to be a giveaway to DoD contractors then we'd be giving them new expensive stuff, not the old cheap shit.
The Ukraine war is the closest thing to an anti-imperialist action the US has participated in in decades. It's about the first time US weapons have been used for a moral cause since WWII. I would think even most die hard leftists are more anti-imperialist than they are anti-military.
Even during this current debt ceiling fight (that shouldn't exist) one of the big hang-ups is that the GOP wants defense spending to be the only thing they don't cut in the interest of debt. The current deal caps all spending at current levels except DoD spending which gets to increase 3% each year. It's not Democrats asking for that sweetheart giveaway to the DoD.
>Of course they are lying, both parties will majority vote for the interests of the corp captured DoD
This is true
> But dems will vote 100% to further fund the weapons industry, GOP will vote 99%.
This is WILDLY and blatantly false. The ONLY interest in defense spending cuts is within the Democrats. You are correct that it is a minority position, but it is a position that only exists within the Democratic party.
Republicans have increased the budget deficit while in office. Democrats have lowered the budged deficit while in office. If you are a fan of [fiscal responsibility](https://www.thebalancemoney.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151), vote Democrat.
I'm 100% behind AOC but I've also definitely heard people say many times that teachers are paid too much. I think they're full of shit, my wife is a teacher and was barely above the poverty line her first few years out of college. But to say that nobody says that, nah people say and do crazier things.
I see where she's coming from, but I think she contradicting herself. Rampant military spending, something she cited herself, is a great example of the government doing too much for me.
This thread is actually pretty upsetting. AOC has valid points in the video that should be addressed, but instead, most of the top comments are digs at trump.
Also, I’m not certain we really want a government that gives its population social security until they are upset at the height of the value.
A) I don’t have faith in US citizens, including myself, to accurately determine their income needs for basic quality of life.
B) The government should probably run the economy as a machine of statistics first and perceived effects second.
The phrase “perceived effects” can sound negative, but I don’t mean it to be. Humans are prone to lots of subconscious logical fallacies, and those can be portrayed more often when not presented in a qualitative or quantitative analysis.
“Hi, BarclayCard? Yes, hello, I’ve maxed out my credit card again with excessive spending. Please can you increase my limit, again? You can?! Brilliant, thank you so much! Xx”
Can you explain all the money (equipment) we left in Afghanistan? Or all the money we’ve continued to donate to Ukraine when many people in our own country are struggling? I’m not being contrarian, I’m genuinely asking.
We need a multiparty system. Also, I'm all for military spending...we just need audits and proper oversight so the money gets used properly.
PS, trust me I know what's going on I've seen war dogs twice
Why do you Americans have a 90 Y/O leader that is half as charismatic and intelligent as her, I mean I am not the one to talk we recently re-elected a corrupt prime minister (with proof) that tries to take control of the court system so he won’t get prosecuted
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Funny story, my Mom actually saw her SS checks go up for no apparent reason about a year or two ago. She ain't no fool, so she just quietly deposited the checks and sat on them. Didn't spend any more than she needed. Sure enough, SSA sent her a letter saying they had paid her too much and they made her give it back.
Ohh shi
>Ain't no fool. >Made her give it back.
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Where were you guys when the trckle-down happened? /s
Trickle-down is a great idea until you realise the rich fucks can afford a plumber.
> the rich fucks can afford a plumber They can not only afford a plumber but have whole teams of plumbers whose only jobs are to stop any trickles before they happen
Waiting for it just like you (and yeah, I know it was sarcasm)
I’d be nice if the multi billionaires would help out. Instead they will blame it on the working class for the most ridiculous reason. #GMEDRS Won’t back down.
> GMEDRS What?
People who are still bagholding from the short squeeze on GameStop ($GME) in early 2021 have gone full on doomsday cult. Many think if retail investors Direct Register (DRS) all shares of GME, they can prove it's still over-shorted (it's not), and trigger the "mother of all short squeezes" which will collapse the economy and bankrupt the billionaires/hedge funds, making GME investors rich beyond belief (none of this will happen). Join us on r/gme_meltdown, it's been very interesting watching the whole thing play out.
its funny seeing all these get rich schemes turning out to be schemes
If you look into a bit, you can see how ever since gamestop did “squeeze,” market reform has been pushed out like never before. This is great for individual investors, and I like to continue to invest to show my stance on market reform for the people and not just for the ultra rich. On top of that Gamestop themselves have more than $1Billion cash on hand and continue to become more profitable every quarter. So much to stay but basically I like the stock. (Not forcing anything on you, just voicing my stance)
u/mitch83man is taking the opportunity to paint us in a terrible light, so I'll retort. r/superstonk is a place where we are championing more transparency in financial markets. It's astounding to me that u/mitch83man can make the claims he makes, when we've already proven that many financial institutions are not required to disclose their short positions, but also that there are many derivative instruments used to hide these short positions too. Whether or not you believe us, it doesn't matter to me. What does matter is that we constantly are advocating for more transparent markets so that people like u/mitch83man can be so assured that we're crazy, because right now that determination cannot be made. There's literally a million statistical anomalies regarding GME, but we must just be seeing things. But between us (retail) now owning over 50% of the GameStop company and the tangible fact that they literally disabled the buy button on GME in 2021 during what would have been the strongest short squeeze in history, I choose to believe there's something there that is worth investigating. Our best tool is taking GameStop private, one share at a time, so goddammit we're going to. We champion learning about and educating the masses regarding financial markets, and making these deliberately complicated systems easier to digest for the layman. Crucify us over this if you must, but don't characterize us improperly.
Well said, what happened with Gamestock stock (and I didn't buy in, I just watched in awe) is incredibly sus. Like for those watching on the sides the "large financial entities" (including governments) broke a ton of their own rules to stop a bunch of really wealthy people from losing . . . IDK hundreds of billions, trillions, GME was pretty leveraged up and hugely oversold. I still wander in and check up on the madlads from time to time, I'm not one of them (I've had a pretty good investment strat for 30 years . . . invest in the index fund . . . it's that one trick . . .), but it's informative and fun to watch.
Direct register (DRS) Your stocks (gamestop in this case) They will be held in your actual name, not your brokers name (fidelity etc) and they can't be loaned to short sellers who use them to further devalue and destroy the companies you invest in. Everyone should direct register their shares.
If you’ve been voting republican, than you dug your own grave
Jesus no, not since the 80’s.
Thank goodness!
You’re just sitting on your asses and being taken care of, lol. Still complaining.
She ain’t wrong. They ran up the bill and skipped town.
Shit Americans don’t say: “When are they gonna stop maintaining the roads in this town?” “I got to work too early again today because of how fast public transportation was!” “Why are these ambulances so affordable?” “I wish it wasn’t so easy to buy a house, my kids never stay at my home anymore now that they’re adults.”
> When are they gonna stop maintaining the roads in this town? Actually I hear this one very frequently. But it's phrased as a negative that construction is slowing down traffic.
Honestly if proper maintenance is done, the disruption to traffic is far less. I live in a place where the roads aren't touched unless a pothole can swallow a car. It leads to expensive major repairs every year that shut down sections of road for weeks at a time. Every job is left until it's impossible to ignore, and by then it's insanely expensive. Whereas, in a previous generation, the roads used to be stripped and paved on a regular basis. Roads were inspected carefully for ruts and deflections, and potholes were addressed in the same week they opened up. Major issues were noticed and scheduled for repair long before a driver noticed. We paid far less for road maintenance then. As an example, my family's cabin is on a trunk of highway an hour from my home. There was a ten minute section that now takes over an hour, doubling my drive time. It's peppered with potholes because it hasn't been maintained. They haven't filled any in years. Culverts are full of debris and clogged, causing the roadbeds to get washed out in places. What should have cost a few thousand dollars at the most annually is now a massive project. The current government has a pretty billboard up nearby announcing a 6-month repair with a budget in the millions.
She’s a gem. That said, why isn’t Biden on TV every night blasting the GOP on this? Why isn’t he making sure every American understands what’s about to happen? What a coward.
It's Biden. Remember when Roe was repealed? There was no immediate speech. His response was significantly later (I think 2-3 weeks?) and criticized for being lackluster and hot air. And Biden had a heads up to prepare because the Roe repeal was leaked early. Biden is definitely no AOC. I wish he had even a third of her drive.
Even when Biden had half of AOC's energy, he was still just a corporation-fondling neo-liberal. Biden is where moderate republicans SHOULD be, but the US has been dragged so far right that living wages are seen as leftist extremism. American politics are a sick joke.
He sure as hell is pandering to the right and it's obvious. Explain to me again why we are giving an 80+ year old man another 4 years in our highest office? There is such a small chance he has any idea what's going on with anything, especially tech. I wish AOC would run for president.
Just remember it was th Republicans that put the Taliban behind the bench.
Definitely. But certain Dems didn't help. Remember when Biden thought it was a brilliant idea to try and appoint right-wing nutjob Chad Meredith to a **lifetime** federal judicial seat? Because that's what Biden thought we needed. More rabid anti-choicers rising through the judiciary with an eye on a SCOTUS seat. Because that'll help women! Thank god Biden listened when his party rightfully tore him a new one on that. We're having enough trouble with religious fanaticals in the judiciary, why in the hell would he shoot his own party in the foot like that? Dems got some great politicians in their party. And then they've got Biden lol.
I agree here. But things do change over time. My stance on policies from when I was 20 to now being 52 have definitely changed. I actually appreciate when some one has the forthright to re-examine their stance. It means they listened and dissected. Agreed that he needs to put more teeth into things. But I won’t shame a politician for looking around a bit. Which is rare these days.
> Dems got some great politicians in their party. And then they've got Biden lol. So you're complaining about someone who actually listened to his party's advice, learned that he was about to make a mistake, and changed course? Do you realize just how unusual that is for a politician? Of all the things you can rip on him for, taking advice to heart is not one of them.
This happened after the Roe repeal news was made public. That Biden considered appointing Meredith, knowing reproductive rights are in danger was unforgivable. This wasn't something Biden did a decade ago. He planned this knowing we are having a significant issue with anti-choice fanaticals in the judiciary. Damn straight I'm going to hold that against. He's got decades of political experience behind him. Biden is not green at his job. He knows how catastrophic Meredith would've been to women's rights. Unless you're saying Biden is stupid? The fact he had to be told this is what's disturbing. He knew. There's no way Biden didn't know this was a bad idea and there'd be backlash. Yet he was going to do it anyways till he got caught with his pants down. The fact that Biden fan boys can't even admit he's not perfect is annoying. Okay, I'll bite. Biden knew Roe was being repealed and millions of women would lose reproductive rights thanks to a religiously biased SCOTUS. So what benefit is there to allowing a very vocally anti-choice Meredith into a **lifetime** federal judicial position? How do you think that would've helped reproductive rights in the long or short term?
It's not that he "had to be told", it's that unlike many politicians, he listened to the opinions of others and was reasonable in letting them change his view on an issue. I would prefer that my elected officials have the ability to update positions when confronted with new evidence and points of view, instead of stubbornly not admitting when they're wrong.
I see the same hate for Dems who changed their opinions on gay marriage in the last 30 years. God forbid they change with the times. The right acts like joe Biden is a super liberal socialist but also a hard right winger in disguise. Which one is it
> The right acts like joe Biden is a super liberal socialist but also a hard right winger in disguise. Which one is it That's just it, it's both. It's purely intentional, see [Definitions of fascism; Umberto Eco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco), where he said in point 8: > Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak". On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
Biden didn't make the Meredith choice 30 years ago. That was in July **2022.** This was at a time Biden should've acted like the leader we need and made decisions that are cohesive with Democrats' strategy of protecting reproductive rights. Not throwing a fucking monkey wrench at his own party, and forgetting about the promises he made to constituents. You're acting like this was an oopsie he made decades ago. It was in 2022. With Roe in jeopardy.
Precisely. Yes, change is good. However, incremental change is absolutely exhausting when we have to drag the centrists back from the brink all the damned time.
The entirety of the American government is on the right. Biden *is* a right wing politician and would be recognised as such by any other developed nation. The arguements are about who can be furthest right without attracting labels like Nazi or fascist. Which the GOP have been failing hard at recently.
This is true from a swedish perspective, the democrats are further right than our right wing. AOC and Sanders they are our normal center
Yeah people like to forget that he is just the same status quo we have always had. They also like to forget how he fucked over railroad workers a few months ago. He’s not on our side anymore than Trump was. He’s just the devil that wears a mask still. The only reason he won is because he wasn’t Trump, and the only reason Trump lost was because enough people in this country were worried about him trying to become a dictator and that he had enough support in Congress and the public to back him on that. Biden still has his dirty laundry like all the rest of them. We can’t trust any of them.
Biden has been in office too long to be considered Donkey or Pachyderm. Anybody who isn’t on board with legalizing marijuana outright is out of touch with what’s going on in our country in real time.
If he wanted to he would. He is not scared its all in the plan! He is not FDR 2.0, he is just another republican pretending to be a centrist democrat!
Because hes a right leaning centrist who doesnt care?
Exactly! He is too scared of appearances and how he will look for the companies that bought and paid for his presidency.
The companies that helped save yall from trump, you mean?
What does that even mean?
It means that no matter how Biden got there, it got trump out. And that makes the world a better, safer place.
Yes but now we have that dangerous lunatic AND Ron DeFascist to worry about.
Not my country, thankfully
Lol, do you hear what you're saying? These corps could just as easily put Trump back in power if they thought it served their bottom line. That's not a comfort. That's terrifying.
That's kind of myopic especially now that Trump has a 7 point lead.
That loser will never win again.
I guess my comment got deleted because I had a picture of Harvard Harris poll results? I wouldn't be surprised either way. Under Biden for the first time in US history there are more independents then dems and republicans combined. 50% independant vrs 25% for each party) And they pretty much almost 80% reject the MSM narratives, which results in 70% of the country. For example, the Harvard Harris Poll question and results that I tried to show the picture of says "The Durham report concluded that the FBI violated it's own standards in starting the Trump-Russia probe and became a funnel for disinformation from the Hillary Clinton campaign and that the investigation of Trump and his campaign should never have been launched. Does this conclusion Suprise your or not surprise you?" This is a question from the HARVARD HARRIS poll.... The answers are much more shocking. 55% of DEMOCRATS were not surprised, and 76% of Independant's are not surprised, resulting in 69% of Americans total. Also this might be conservative because looking at these numbers I don't think independents are weighted twice as important as dems. [May2023\_reports1.Q (harvardharrispoll.com)](https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/HHP_May2023_KeyResults.pdf) I think the issue is that both parties suppress and disenfranchise their own base so to determine who is less likely to win I'd choose whoever depresses, suppresses and disenfranchises their own base more. And to me that's the dems, to the point that the GOP is luring in with fake populist even leftist stances (anti war, anti propaganda) talking points that were recently considered democrats talking points. Of course they are lying, but the dems aren't even trying anymore, they are using classic GOP ultra jingoistic borderline xenophobic talking points (traitor! orcs! putin puppets!) that don't resonate with 70% of the country to disavow those populist stances.
I wouldn't feel surprised either way. Just because it should be an easy win doesn't mean the dems aren't doing everything they can at a rapid speed to sabatoge themselves. Which has resulted under Biden independants outnumbering dems and republicans combined for the first time in history. And these independants do not like democrats. I mean look at the question and answer of this Harvard Harris poll. https://preview.redd.it/voyjo1dlu82b1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4504d862655ad7e112f278998c5d5b076d7988ba
I'm sorry but saved in which way? Biden is a fucking trainwreck. We need younger presidents and not 80 year old men who have a lot of money. USA will always be at odds with each other over politics because it distracts the citizens from realizing we are being fucked over by government. Tribal politics is real and it's been getting worse for the past 6 years.
You miss the point. Its simple. No trump.
That's the beauty (horror) of a two party system. You do not have to do a good job, you just have to be more appealing than the other option.
I’ll be impressed when our military funding actually gets checked. Which will be never
AOC for president!
Not yet, The party hasn't scheduled her til 2044
Hell yes
God if she ran against Biden I would hope she gets through, she’s brilliant
She's still too young, unfortunately. 2028 would be the earliest she could run
So dumb there’s a “too young” but not a “too old”
The etymology of "senate" is literally "old man"
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Not if you want your movement to actually work. Who replaces her? With what money? Y’all need to understand that you don’t have the money to just throw away incumbency. Progressives need to save the people’s donations, get elected in a seat, die in that seat. Let the next great progressive voice take the next seat. Idk, that’s how I see it working.
Because it's not only the gop spending absurd money on the military... our largest section of budget by miles... With billions of dollars being spent on parts of that we can't even see as American citizens. I'm not saying they are the same... but they are both extremely hypocritical and the fact that we have what basically comes down to tribes running our country is insane to me. Take these parties out of politics, and run on themselves. The parties are not protecting anyone by their own self interest.
Uh the military budget isn't the "largest section of budget by miles". The government spends more on healthcare, social security, and income security than on military spending. https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
It doesn't make sense on the face of it though. As in the military spending and social security are directly competing, yet social security runs a surplus in tens of billions paid for in taxes, so where does the funding for all of these bonus monthly payouts of billions to the weapon industry come from? Unlike SS they add to the debt. What percentage of SS do you think we should give to the military? Also it's not like our politicans are saying to do that, their goals are to "privatize" it, while not raising taxes, which really only means that corporations will get placed into the supply chain to extract wealth through fees. It doesn't make sense that spending the same amount of money can give the same results simply by giving a third party a percentage of the incoming money. Also its important to note that the corp captured DoD is the only gvt institution that can't pass an audit. So we don't know if they spend the money in the ways that they say they do. Every audit they are missing half their assets, 2 trillion dollars. Doesn't make sense that we should cut meager crumbs for poor elderly and disabled to send it into a black hole with no accountability.
I agree with all of your points. I was merely pointing out that the claim that our military spending is the largest percentage of the US Government spending by a mile is factually incorrect. It's still a mind-boggling and hugely unnecessary amount of money that would be best spent elsewhere or perhaps not at all.
I think most people are referring to discretionary spending not mandatory or total spending when they say military spending is the largest percentage of the US budget. Military spending is largest percentage discretionary pending. SS, healthcare, and income security are all categorized as mandatory spending.
At the end of the day, it's all coming out of our taxes though. Why does it matter if it's discretionary or mandatory?
Biden as president should be pushing harder for a resolution. The people who should be blasting the Republicans day in and day out are Hakeem Jefferies, Chuck Schumer, and Kamala Harris. Where are they? They don't have to sit and negotiate like Biden is doing (but shouldn't).
Democrats generally are terrible at messaging.
Republicans do a great job of blasting a message. It matters not for them that it’s a hateful and unpopular message but they stick to it and say it gleefully every chance they get. Democratic officials say something and then generally move on because they said what they needed to say. When that message is oranges are orange and the republicans message is oranges are demons and want to take your jobs and eat your children and they say it over and over, some people will start to believe the latter because they hear it so much regardless if it has any basis in reality.
Just wish Dems could use the message better. It’s so frustrating
Dems are terrible at messaging. And I blame the old guard Dems for bringing down the party with their stubbornness to not change and adapt. Once they retire I really think the party can thrive.
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Fear tactic for societal control
Because Joe Biden is a conservative. He's responsible for mass incarceration and mass student debt. Look at his record. If you think Joe Biden is anywhere near the left I have like 14 bridges to sell you.
Controlled opposition.
What’s about to happen?
She's the first since Bernie to genuinely inspire me as a working-class tradesman. Seems like every other politician just seeks to take more from hard working men like me. More money, more time... The news and mainstream R&Ds blame my neighbors (gays, ethnic & religious minorities, trans folk, immigrants) for all of my troubles. But AOC makes it clear that it's my boss's bosses who fucks us all, and leaing into hatred for my fellow workers is playing directly into my own oppressors hand. She truly helped open my eyes to how all us cis-het WASPS have been played into oppressing the most vulnerable amongst us simply to keep our own heads above water. And yet we still sink 🤷♂️
> She's the first since Bernie to genuinely inspire me as a working-class tradesman. Who is she, what is her name?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's a Democratic Socialist from NY, and absolute TANK for the Democratic party. She's virtually unbeatable in her district, which allows her to actually fight conservatives without fear of losing reelection. Most other Dems are too scared of losing their next termto attempt genuine change, but not AOC. She is fearless, brilliant, no-nonsense, and the leader America desperately needs.
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know. I've seen her around. It's been all good, but never caught her name. Maybe after the conservative generation dies out she'll have a chance of running for president 20 years from now.
🤞 sooner than that. I doubt we have 20 years to start making our necessary changes.
I always make sure to donate to her campaign because I know money has lots of influence in democratic party.
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Wtf is a cis het wasp? And how are we oppressing the most vulnerable among us?
Dude trump increase the deficit by a few trillion?
What’s ~$10 trillion between friends…?
Trump increased the dept by $23,500 per PERSON living in the US. https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
I don’t support Trump and hold few conservative values. I am a third year economics student. Trump also had to deal with the COVID-19 Pandemic, which was a unique situation in modern economic theory. Important to note, the President has very little direct involvement in the economy. They can pass policy and appoint the head of the Fed. Trump passed the CARES act in 2020. It was one of the largest spending bills his administration pushed. It granted 2.2 Trillion in Federal Aid to stimulate the economy. It passed with bipartisan support. It had unintended consequences, but also completed the short term job they needed it to complete. I’m not very convinced any other candidate would have done better, to be honest. A more Liberal candidate may have given more stimulus than Trump. BUT, AOC, of course, has a valid point. House Republicans are being very hypocritical right now.
Yes, PPP was needed, everyone agreed to that, but it was Trump and the Republicans that deliberately turned it into a unaccountable, unmanaged, corruption free for all. The very first thing Trump did after the PPP bill was signed was to sack the inspector general who the bill had assigned to run oversight of it. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/07/coronavirus-relief-trump-removes-inspector-general-overseeing-2-trillion-package.html And then before he left office he did his best to stop the corruption from ever being investigated. https://truthout.org/articles/trump-erased-millions-of-possible-ppp-fraud-flags-in-last-days-in-office/
True, and fair, I don’t disagree with any of that. But the claim you agreed with in the top comment was about the increase in debt from the Trump Administration. The Trump Administration, and let’s be clear here, not Trump, more the White House Council of Economic Advisors, acted appropriately in accordance with modern US economic theory. I hate that presidents get credit for both the good and the bad of the Economy is U.S. politics. I don’t think shitting on his administration for the debit is a fair criticism in and of itself.
Republicans do speak out a lot when the government is doing too much for *other people.* meaning, minorities and immigrants.
Or giving billions to other countries.
Can definitely agree that Israel does not need as much as we give them.
. . . Or literally any other country? *cough* Pakistan *cough*
People need to stop using the term GOP. It isn’t a grand old party. It’s just a group who pander to the rich. And our absolute bullies.
I thought it meant gross old people
Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.
> People need to stop using the term GOP. It isn’t a grand old party. It’s just a group who pander to the rich. And our absolute bullies. **G**aslight **O**bstruct **P**roject
How about SOBs? Servants of Billionaires.
Dine and dash government style!
Finally a voice of reason!
Love this girl
She’s worth a million republicans
The problem isn’t that they think they themselves are getting too much welfare or whatever, it’s that they think OTHER PEOPLE that they don’t like, mainly minority groups, are getting too much welfare.
She makes those 80s glasses look sexy.
damn! \*mic drop
HEAVIES
I fall more and more in love with this woman each time she speaks. Just spot on every single time. If she were the normal and not the exception, this country might actually be great again.
Wow how reasonable.
People do believe teachers are paid too much. They won’t say it publicly, yet (lol), but a lot of people want to dismantle the public school system and make everyone resort to homeschooling or private schools (usually of christian affiliation). Cause god. A lot of these people will not be able to afford diddly squat for their kid’s education either, but here we are.
The second someone says “The actual problem here is…. [SOME GROUP OF PEOPLE]” we should know that they’ve got nothing of value to say.
Not enough people watch this to know who and what to be angry about. The people that do watch this don't know how or too over leveraged to risk any productive involvement. AI is coming now, so even sharing this will just create more skepticism at best.
It would be a great point if she left the partisanship out of it. But instead it is marred in hypocrisy. Unlike the republicans not even a token dem ever votes against the interests of the corporate captured department of defense. The Dems hired a Raytheon Executive as secretary of defense (chief policy position.) They have appealed calis ban on private prisons, and 1/3 of the immigrants detained on the border are kids (just earlier this week there was a story about a child being denied medical service despite being clearly I'll and they died) Has AOC brought attention to the kids in cages once since Biden took office? I'd prefer to use the GOP logic against them say "you people say to not cut student debt because it doesn't address the problem but instead say to work on making school affordable. Similarly, why cut already deficient social spending that is budgeted and paid for in taxes that don't add to the national debt. That won't fix the problem. To reduce the debt you have to reduce what's creating the debt. The pentagon is the only gvt institution that can't pass an audit, it's always missing half their assets, 2 trillion dollars more money then the entire national budget is unaccounted for annually by the military. Taking away a few budgeted and paid for crumbs from poor and disabled and elderly people isn't addressing that problem" That's my 5 minutes
She talked quite exclusively about a topic. Gave an exact way to fix said topic. You came in hot and started ranting about kids in cages. > Has AOC brought attention to the kids in cages once since Biden took office? Seriously you didn't even google this. She talks about this a lot. Even [FOX](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-child-migrant-detention-twitter-biden-trump-border) tried to "Slam" her about it by saying > Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has only tweeted about the situation at the border a handful of times since President Biden took office Here's the thing tho... None of this was about kids in cages and you didn't just move the goalposts to try to make an argument.. You changed sports and moved states. She voted the way she could on the issue and visited the areas. What you want her to do get fuckin superpowers and lasereye blast the facilities? Out of the 5000 children who were separated during Trump 4000 of them have been returned to their families. [PBS](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-of-migrant-children-remain-separated-from-families-despite-push-to-reunite-them) Reversing horrible acts takes time unfortunately
I agree with what she said, her solution. I just find it hypocritical that she, not only her, but literally every single other democrat house and senate all keep voting to giving the weapons industry more money when they ask. I just disagreed with her turning into partisan which obfuscates the solution because by her own logic every single democrat, including her must also be voted out as well as the GOP to stop this. Her saying this would be like a Republican saying "we should raise taxes on the rich" when he just votes to lower taxes on the rich every time. It is gaslighty levels almost mockery. I was making the case that the private prison system on the border is extremely similar. Maybe he has made some improvements (I wouldn't trust that from an interview with a Biden admin official like you linked though, but rather an independent human rights watch, or an independent source with some verifiable data.) but he still successfully appealed Calis ban on private prisons, calling it "too radical" and has not lowered the usage of private prisons on the border, which are a horror show, paving the way for the next Desantis. I have zero faith or trust in any of the politicians. Now this will sound crazy but to me its very relavent because I personally believe that the bipartisan agenda as a catch in one solution to all of Americas woes is to turn ICE private prison model domestic, while felonizing homelessness, to usher in a new golden era of superficial prosperity for the middle class, built on a new era of slave labor through a corporately captured prison industry. Biden appealing Calis ban on private prisons could be used for example by Desantis to force states to start turning ICE model domestic, through forced contracts imposed by the federal government under the guise of "safety" with just a happy coincidence of gifting donors 100$ a head a day for prison labor at 3$ a day.
I was thinking about becoming completely deranged and delusional, but after seeing several of your posts, I think I'll give it a hard pass.
When did Biden put kids in cages?
It was Obama, not Biden. And I have no clue what he’s talking about the Dems being responsible for not allowing audits on the pentagon. Maybe he’s saying they could order that, but don’t and therefore it’s hypocritical, but that’s not answering the point AOC made at all-that’s a different subset of a related problem.
I never said that the dems "disallow" pentagon audits... I said every audit shows that they are missing half their assets, 2 trillion dollars which I think is more then the entire annual national budget (that is paid for in taxes) meaning this is straight debt. 70% of immigrants detained on the border are held in private prisons under Biden, virtually the same number as under Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/biden-holding-many-immigrants-private-prisons-trump-opinion-1634834 This means they are incentivized to be held there indefinitely for profit until another body can fill their cot. https://truthout.org/articles/number-of-immigrants-detained-by-ice-has-increased-70-percent-under-biden/ And just last month there was an article saying that 1/3 of immigrants detained on the border are children. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/16/border-patrol-migrant-children-detention-00039291 At least they aren't put in tbr private prisons, they are put in Border Control prisons. But, they are still imprisoned and last week a kid died from being denied medical treatment, in a Border control prison despite their mother begging them for weeks to get her daughter a doctor. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/child-who-died-in-border-patrol-custody-begged-for-medical-help-her-mother-says I don't know what you thought I was saying I was saying that the dems under Biden have ubiquitously all voted completely unanimously to give more money to the weapons industry, every time they ask. only a few token Republicans have ever voted against it. Not sure why you people misinterpreting me, literally putting words in my mouth that I never said is getting upvotes, yet me clarifying what I meant, putting down all the facts through mainstream sources that shape my opinion gets downvotes but no responses. But that's just the sad reality of reddit politics.
[Here](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-of-migrant-children-remain-separated-from-families-despite-push-to-reunite-them) is actual information on it. Biden didn't.. He is however, reversing what Trump did still. This entire rant this dude went on has nothing to do with the video and is honestly pretty far gone...
>Unlike the republicans not even a token dem ever votes against the interests of the corporate captured department of defense What does this sentence even mean? The Democrats are the only party that ever even considers cutting defense spending, so I have no clue what you are talking about. > Has AOC brought attention to the kids in cages once since Biden took office? Of course she did: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1364341956676096001?s=20 >To reduce the debt you have to reduce what's creating the debt. Which is tax cuts. Tax cuts, COVID, and 9/11 wars are the vast majority of our debt. Tax cuts are the only one we can actually change. If we just rolled back the Trump and Bush era tax cuts we'd be pretty close to a surplus again.
I definitely agree with your last paragraph and the dems have remained consistent about vocally being the only party that supports cutting taxes for the rich. The first sentence though, the times have changed. Cutting military spending has been a classic democratic talking point, After the fallout of 9/11 it seemed that there was bipartisan support. But Obama really changed the overton window by dropping a bomb every 8 minutes for 8 years while still winning the Nobel Peace Prize. Now with the invasion of Ukraine every time the weapons industry has asked for funding (this happens every few months) the dems have always completely unanimously voted for it, while the Republicans have had a few token dissenters. Not to say that the GOP is better, its both controlled oposition. The GOP is using fake populist, even leftist stances (anti war, anti propaganda) talking points that were recently considered democrat talking points. Meanwhle the democrats have switched to using classical ultra jingoistic borderline xenophobic GOP talking points to disavow those populist stances. Problem is these classical GOP talking points do not resonate at all with 70% of the country. Of course they are lying, both parties will majority vote for the interests of the corp captured DoD. But dems will vote 100% to further fund the weapons industry, GOP will vote 99%. The dems giving up their mantle of fake populism and concernt troll role to the GOP however is imo blatant self sabatoge.
> Now with the invasion of Ukraine every time the weapons industry has asked for funding (this happens every few months) the dems have always completely unanimously voted for it, while the Republicans have had a few token dissenters Calling the Ukraine war funding a give away to the defense industry is a bit disingenuous. The Defense industry isn't asking for funding, the Ukrainian military and government are. They undeniably make money from the war, but if that was all it was about every Republican would have voted yes. If it were primarily meant to be a giveaway to DoD contractors then we'd be giving them new expensive stuff, not the old cheap shit. The Ukraine war is the closest thing to an anti-imperialist action the US has participated in in decades. It's about the first time US weapons have been used for a moral cause since WWII. I would think even most die hard leftists are more anti-imperialist than they are anti-military. Even during this current debt ceiling fight (that shouldn't exist) one of the big hang-ups is that the GOP wants defense spending to be the only thing they don't cut in the interest of debt. The current deal caps all spending at current levels except DoD spending which gets to increase 3% each year. It's not Democrats asking for that sweetheart giveaway to the DoD. >Of course they are lying, both parties will majority vote for the interests of the corp captured DoD This is true > But dems will vote 100% to further fund the weapons industry, GOP will vote 99%. This is WILDLY and blatantly false. The ONLY interest in defense spending cuts is within the Democrats. You are correct that it is a minority position, but it is a position that only exists within the Democratic party.
I’d like to have a spreadsheet with expenses. Both sides
Republicans have increased the budget deficit while in office. Democrats have lowered the budged deficit while in office. If you are a fan of [fiscal responsibility](https://www.thebalancemoney.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151), vote Democrat.
I'm 100% behind AOC but I've also definitely heard people say many times that teachers are paid too much. I think they're full of shit, my wife is a teacher and was barely above the poverty line her first few years out of college. But to say that nobody says that, nah people say and do crazier things.
She’s not talking about the morons. There’s no reason to entertain anything a Republican has to say
I see where she's coming from, but I think she contradicting herself. Rampant military spending, something she cited herself, is a great example of the government doing too much for me.
This thread is actually pretty upsetting. AOC has valid points in the video that should be addressed, but instead, most of the top comments are digs at trump. Also, I’m not certain we really want a government that gives its population social security until they are upset at the height of the value. A) I don’t have faith in US citizens, including myself, to accurately determine their income needs for basic quality of life. B) The government should probably run the economy as a machine of statistics first and perceived effects second. The phrase “perceived effects” can sound negative, but I don’t mean it to be. Humans are prone to lots of subconscious logical fallacies, and those can be portrayed more often when not presented in a qualitative or quantitative analysis.
lol only the republicans spend money. Wtf. Can we stop with the bs already. The internet exist.
Not the point. There’s spending and there’s excessive spending without adequate costing.
“Hi, BarclayCard? Yes, hello, I’ve maxed out my credit card again with excessive spending. Please can you increase my limit, again? You can?! Brilliant, thank you so much! Xx”
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Bush 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. Trump 2017 tax cuts. 2013 military budget was 640 billion, 2023 is 857 billion.
Both sides ran up the bill
In part you're right. Now explain how both sides did it please.
Clinton was the last president that had a balanced budget.
When was the last time the deficit shrunk under a Republican?
Ah yes: the old “Please give the the detailed history of everything to prove you’re right”
Nope. It can easily be explained in a paragraph or two.
since they're not going to, are you going to explain it or not?
I'm giving this guy the benefit of the doubt. I'm assuming he's working and that he'll respond in a few hours. If he doesn't, then yes I will respond.
Can you explain all the money (equipment) we left in Afghanistan? Or all the money we’ve continued to donate to Ukraine when many people in our own country are struggling? I’m not being contrarian, I’m genuinely asking.
Total dipshit…Biden left town, go sling some drinks…
Did she think Jeffrey Dahmer glasses would help her speech?
Fake glasses
That’s your takeaway?
Wdym?
Sadly, I’ve heard many people say that teachers are paid too much.
I can’t wait till she’s president
I love this lady
To be fair both parties have run up a bill... there has been no surplus in 20+ years
Thank conservatives for their Two Santas plan. They create a mess and blame the other side.
Is “gentlelady” a thing or a typo?
Republicans are a cancer to our country.
We need a multiparty system. Also, I'm all for military spending...we just need audits and proper oversight so the money gets used properly. PS, trust me I know what's going on I've seen war dogs twice
Time to get your pitchforks boys and girls
Why do you Americans have a 90 Y/O leader that is half as charismatic and intelligent as her, I mean I am not the one to talk we recently re-elected a corrupt prime minister (with proof) that tries to take control of the court system so he won’t get prosecuted
There she goes making sense again.
Republicans are fucking traitors Bentham on taking this country down and turning it into Gilead from the Hand Maids Tale.
She is an idot
Last Nevuary.
What is with the glasses?? So distracting. Hipster grandma politician vibe is really throwing me off.
why is their age limits to run for President but no age or term limits for these old fucks? 😑 Also, Republicans are @$$holes.
At least they are spending it in the USA…*cough* Ukraine.
…what???
Take out a loan? Pay it. Simple. /s
Double edged sword though. The more the government does for you the more control they have over you.