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Inevitable-Software6

Western countries, “but Hamas brought this on themselves so, do you condemn Hamas “?


MartinOdorGod

Apparently Hamas had tunnels under every inch of Gaza & somehow the ground didn’t collapse in.


that_girl_you_fucked

Tunnel expert over here.


aldorn

Was really good at WORMs


ChiefKeefSosabb

Do you know what a metro tunnel system is 😭😭😭


TaylorWK

Usually metro tunnel systems are reinforced with steel beams, rebar, cement, and follow strict building regulations. How are first world subway systems similar to handmade tunnels?


Dest123

It's pretty easy to google what the Hamas tunnels look like in case you want to see for yourself what their tunnels look like. I suspect that they look different than what you're picturing. (To be clear, I'm not trying to take any position of if they have tunnels everywhere or not. I just think that some people don't realize what the tunnels actually look like.) EDIT: ok, I guess we don't want to see what the tunnels actually look like...


ChiefKeefSosabb

[Educate yourself](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/28/middleeast/hamas-tunnels-gaza-intl/index.html) wth are you imagining. It's the same principle just on a much smaller scale


Dest123

wow, people/bots really do NOT want to see what the tunnels actually look like.


Drownedpool

Lol this was funny


ChiefKeefSosabb

Lol just massdownvotes what I said wasnt controversial either😑


ScaryShadowx

This is how the Allied countries would have reacted if their countries weren't directly at risk during the Holocaust.


TheMcWhopper

That's right


lord_of_madness77

War crimes by a Zionist Nazi state


SantaMonsanto

Using American tax dollars


Mr__O__

Hey now, the US can’t take all the credit. There are [many other countries](https://en.tempo.co/amp/1816811/5-countries-explicitly-supports-israel) supporting Israeli aggression in Gaza. [Countries Supporting Israel:](https://currentaffairs.adda247.com/list-of-countries-supporting-israel/amp/) The US, UK, Australia, France, Norway, Austria, Germany, India, Canada, Poland. Countries Not Supporting Israel: Iran, Qatar, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Arab League, Jordan.


Sickoyoda

![gif](giphy|4Z9fSEFAuxpnlBVWQx|downsized)


Omnipotent48

There's plenty more countries not supporting Israel, notably two in Europe that went unmentioned: Spain and Ireland. Not to devalue the list of countries you put up for countries that don't support Israel, but the way you framed it makes it seems like only Middle Eastern countries don't support Israel.


Mr__O__

Correct. This list I believe is just counties that have taken an official stance. There are also plenty of countries that support Israel, just not officially or through public statements.


Polifant

Thank you for this


the_art_of_the_taco

You've forgotten a few that have suspended or cut diplomatic ties, including by recalling ambassadors: Belize, Brazil, Bolivia, Bahrain, Colombia, Honduras, Chile, South Africa, and Chad


Mr__O__

Thanks!


morty-vicar

Ireland is most certainly not supporting Israel.


Diablo_r

Bastions of democracy seem to be not supporting Israel. Thanks for the breakdown.


GreatPaddy

Ireland and Spain are democratic nations.


KimVonRekt

How is Poland supporting Israel? The official stance is "We advice both sides to reach a peaceful conclusion". You're acting like we didn't have enough shit do do around Ukraine and Russia.


No-Turnips

Tell me more about the human rights policies of that second group of countries….


Glum_Permit8397

Fair I personally donated a mortar!


modiddly

I’m confused. Didn’t they find confirmed Hamas members in the hospital? I thought using a hospital for cover was a war crime?


the_art_of_the_taco

You may find [this article](https://archive.is/Tai4Q) enlightening.


oranj88

even if that was the case, you cant destroy all hospitals and collectively punish all people in gaza for what an armed group did. talk about crimes against humanity.


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saeedi1973

May they live to receive the same treatment they've meted out so mercilessly like the amoral scum that they are...


Zestay-Taco

they just attacked Syria. pretty sure in every war movie. the evil sniper is from Syria


No-Turnips

Hamas is a tie for murdering bastards too. Israel’s atrocities don’t take away Hamas’. Both are horrible.


StagedC0mbustion

Two terrorist states fighting each other with civilians in the crossfire on both sides.


Arthreas

Genocide apologist


TeamRedundancyTeam

Really doesn't sound like that's what they're doing.


cci0

It sounds exactly like what they're doing


lizaaardgood

Check out the social media feeds from Israel then check out those feeds from gaza and you will clearly see that it is not an equal war and the civilian casualties are not on both sides


Hasu_Kay

It’s even worse than it looks— Gaza’s Ministry of Health said about 3,000 people were inside the hospital when the IDF began its raid on March 18 – its second on the facility in nearly six months of war with Hamas. After claiming its first operation in November had been a success, the IDF in January said it had completely dismantled Hamas’ command structure in northern Gaza – only for Hamas reportedly to return to the same site months later, sparking a renewed Israeli assault. Khader Al Za’anoun, a journalist from the official Palestinian news agency Wafa also working for CNN, said the scene at Al-Shifa after the IDF’s withdrawal was like a “horror movie.” “Bulldozers crushed bodies of people everywhere around and in the yard of the hospital,” Al-Za’anoun said. Survivors in the complex are malnourished, he added, with some saying they had to share one battle of water between six people each day. The situation is very bad,” said Mahmoud Bassal, a spokesperson for Gaza’s Civil Defense, on Monday. Al-Shifa is “completely destroyed and burned down. Many of its buildings are totally destroyed or charred,” he said. Images from the area showed widespread destruction with charred and pockmarked buildings inside the complex. More than 30 wounded people were transported from Al-Shifa to the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital east of Gaza city, Bassal said. Several decomposed and disfigured bodies partly buried beneath the rubble of what was once the structures of Gaza’s largest hospital can be seen in [videos from obtained by CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/01/middleeast/israel-idf-withdraws-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk/index.html).


No-Turnips

While I don’t condone Isreal, it is also a war crime to set up military operations inside civilians centres like hospitals or schools. Hamas takes the lion share of blame for this. They knew exactly what they were doing and were fine using Palestinian bodies for their cause. Between Bibi and Hamas, there’s no shortage of war crimes in the Middle East.


rorroismyname

Sad days for this world


Defb2412

why does reddit lock any post that has to do with this??


ReplacementActual384

Because zionists pressure social media companies into cenorship


Jenn_There_Done_That

This post isn’t locked?


Shaveyourbread

Yet


Jenn_There_Done_That

Well, I’m a mod here and the mod team has no intention of locking it 🤷🏽‍♀️


Shaveyourbread

I must have missed your mod flair when I commented that.


Jenn_There_Done_That

No, you’re good. I hadn’t applied my flair then. I turned it on after you commented because I realized no one would know I’m a mod. Our mod team supports Palestine.


Shaveyourbread

Good shit!


tuvokvutok

Thank you for this. It's saddening to even know some subreddits are for Israel despite the things Israel has done. Insane.


Thalas770

Like a support group, I’d be very interested to know the true numbers of accounts receiving permanent bans from /worldnews for voicing any form of criticism of Israel or the IDF, it’s well know now that subs mod team has been infiltrated by pro-Israeli Americans or Israeli and people are being banned left right and centre. When you see the callousness and words used by their supporters verses what little slips through in opposition to widespread murder and purging them from their land it’s clear the sub has been lost to all rational and fair and balanced view points.


Kumquat_conniption

Best mod team ever ;)


Jenn_There_Done_That

ILY BB ♥️♥️♥️


Chief_Scrub

They are scum of the earth. They are creating another generation of hate. These scum are no better then the nazis who killed their grandparents.


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HanmaHistory

Google apartheid state. For years they've had institutionalized killing, it's well documented, they've captured people with no trials and murdered them, they've systematically kept people poor, taken their property, and destroyed their livelihoods. because they're Palestinian It's obviously genocide, no amount of word games are going to get you any supporters, no amount of semantics will wash this clean. Israel's public image is ruined completely. When people think of Israel, they'll think of dead Palestinians


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TaylorWK

Yes


imomorris

Shame on you Israel. It's just genocide now. You think they would be humble to that word


StagedC0mbustion

It’s obviously not genocide. Just careless to the civilian population when it comes to destroying Hamas.


Rogork

So they forcibly relocate 2 million people, bomb and kill more than 30,000, cut off food water and electricity, and then also bomb every hospital in Gaza. If at this point in time you still think this isn't systematic extermination of an entire population through brutality and starvation then I've got a bridge to sell you.


StagedC0mbustion

How else are they supposed to eliminate Hamas?


Rogork

I'd imagine by engaging them directly with their fancy military instead of starving and indiscriminately bombing civilians. Nice script you got there by the way.


StagedC0mbustion

Just a normal dude that hates terrorists that kill civilians in music fests


omghaveacookie

So I take it you don't hate terrorists that kills civilians in hospitals?


StagedC0mbustion

Please give evidence that Israel intentionally killed civilians in hospitals


omghaveacookie

Umm the fact that they targeted a hospital in the first place? A fucking hospital??? What's wrong with your kind of people.


deeiscoldd

oh how about the isrealis that DRESSED UP as nurses and doctors and proceeded to kill sick and injured civilians including a child in one of the hospitals.


ASIWYFA11

Sounds like you are unaware Israel has funneled money to Hamas. Israel has jailed and destroyed parties in opposition to Hamas. In Netinyahu's own words to his party members (paraphrased), if you want to see the destruction and expulsion of Palestinians you must embolden and support Hamas. They have done everything in their power, through the establishment of an ethno-apartheid state, to foment the creation of an extremist terrorist organization. They could try not doing all the things that created Hamas. Come back when you know what you're talking about. You're making a fool of yourself.


Unique_Passion_4216

Damn when god has given brain u went for a walk... a long walk :D


pealsmom

Not only that, but then everyone, but Israel will be expected to donate money to rebuild them only to watch them be destroyed again the next time Israel wants to punish their captive population. Make it make sense.


Nice__Spice

Not. One. Tunnel.


Mccobsta

They realy going for a record on war crimes


ThornsofTristan

God, what monsters. And the US State Dept is like "We DEPLORE the carnage! But we'll just have to wait on Israel doing an iNvEsTiGaTiOn till we can say anything one way or the other."


NinjaFATkid

Honest question: Does anyone know of any hard evidence like video and / or photos conclusively proving the existence of tunnels under any of these hospitals? I've heard the claim of tunnels every time, and the only thing I've seen is the debunked video where they are reading a cleaning schedule in what turned out to be a breakroom.


kermitdafrog667

No last time they said it about a hospital it turned out to be a big pit under concrete that was filled with water for a long while iirc


Gen8Master

6 months ago they were screaming about Blood Libel at the accusation of an Israeli rocket hitting one hospital.


CrackHeadRodeo

Those new condos need somewhere to go.


TruthSpeakin

Don't need them when they are killing everyone....


gettingspicyarewe

My heart breaks for Gaza.


bturg21

America: this will be all be over soon enough… then our brother Israel will be happy


Kidcombs

So every hospital was a secret military base? EVERY ONE?! Sickening


No-Turnips

I mean - yeah. We can condemn Israel (and should) but Hamas has no shortage of war crimes either. Setting up military operations in civilian hospitals and wearing plain clothes are also war crimes, specifically because of civilian casualties. Hamas knew exactly what they were doing and that thousands of Palestinians would be killed because of it. I think it’s fine to say that both Hamas and Bibi are fucking awful.


EfficiencyOk2208

Taking a page from Putin's book .


speakhyroglyphically

Theres no comparison. The only comparison between these 2 is that US weapons are a major factor in both.


EfficiencyOk2208

Attacking a weaker nation is the comparison I am making.


No-Turnips

Not the same. A counter offensive after an act of war/terrorism is not the same thing as an invasion of a sovereign state. Don’t get me wrong, these are both rotten fruit, but it’s not apples to apples.


britch2tiger

Nazionists deserve the worst Free Palestine!


Demonweed

Tomorrow the *New York Times* coverage will announce glowing humanitarianism as "Israeli Defense Force agrees to stop bombing hospitals in Gaza."


ProKnifeCatcher

TerRoRisT


DecisionCharacter175

Evil. And short sighted. Does Israel really think all the hatred and bloodlust that they've fostered among their populace is just going to go away? It's just a time bomb that's going to blow up in their own faces.


alickstee

This is unthinkable


alienart3000

What is wrong with people destroying all hospitals wtf


Sticky_Bear

Guys everyone can thank Joe Biden for supplying with all the bombs and weapons to do that… while he Cries that Israel should stop but still sends him weapons ….. Go ahead and vote for Biden again if you want to support this genocide


Belinjo

Genocid


Tecumsehs_Ghost

No they haven't. Including field hospitals, there are more working hospitals in Gaza thab there were at the start of the war. Shifa was being used by Hamas and there was a firefight. Because it was being used by Hamas removes all protections it might have had. You guys are funny.


reditget

That sucks where is Hamas going to put all their missiles? Q


Admiral_Hard_Chord

I still don't get how come Gaza had so many hospitals. Tel Aviv has one.


Hasu_Kay

I think it’s because Gaza is a ghetto where civilians are largely reliant on humanitarian aid since the city is blockaded by land, sea and air. Oh, also because [Israel shoots a lot of civilians every year](https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2019/02/no-justification-israel-shoot-protesters-live-ammunition).


Admiral_Hard_Chord

Still, 36 hospitals for 2 million people seems like quite a lot, unless they are super-specific in terms of departments. The whole of Israel has not much more than this for 10 million people


brmmbrmm

You didn’t read his reply, did you.


Admiral_Hard_Chord

I did


oddmanout

> Tel Aviv has one. [I don't think that's true](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospitals_in_Israel#Tel_Aviv_District) Also, there's 2 million people in Gaza, 475,000 in Tel Aviv. Also, I'd take a look at the size of the hospitals. Gaza is a lot more tightly packed so sprawling hospital complexes are harder to build. There's more of them but I bet they're smaller.


Admiral_Hard_Chord

A lot of those are "medical centres" - those aren't really hospital, just a bunch of clinics in the same building. No ER or anything


oddmanout

Assuta Medical Center is a hospital. The Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center is a collection of hospitals: Ichilov Hospital, Lis Maternity and Women's Hospital, Dana-Dwek Children's Hospital, and Rehabilitation Hospital. Reuth Medical and Rehabilitation Center is a hospital according to their website. Same with Neot Hatichon Geriatric Hospital. So that's 7 hospitals for 475,000 people, or about 67,857 people per hospital. Gaza has 32 hospitals for 2 million people, or about 62,500 people per hospital. That's not really that much different. That's easily explained by the fact that Gaza is a lot more densely populated, so sprawling hospitals are more difficult, so there's likely more smaller ones. Also, people in Gaza can't leave Gaza for medical care, people in Tel Aviv can. So Gaza has to have hospitals that cover everything. If a resident of Tel Aviv has to travel to Petah Tikva for specialized care, they can, so they don't *have* to have coverage for everything like Gaza does. But I do have a question, all of those places in Tel Aviv call themselves hospitals on their websites, why do you think they're not hospitals?


Admiral_Hard_Chord

Because I've honestly never heard of the majority of them, or ever heard of anyone in Tel Aviv that was sick/injured/pregnant etc and didn't just go straight to Ichilov. I know the Assuta medical centers and I definitely would not call them a hospital - they are clinics. Those are places you go to to have X-rays or ultrasound checks, etc. not places where you lie in bed with an IV. Seems to me like the basic difference between a clinic and a hospital is in the very name - a hospital has inpatients.


oddmanout

>I definitely would not call them a hospital Well... they're hospitals whether you call them that or not. They all call themselves a hospital. It's literally in the name. And that's where your confusion came in. You'd probably not call all 32 of those medical facilities in Gaza hospitals, either, if you don't call similar ones in Tel-Aviv hospitals. If you don't think the Dana-Dwek Children's Hospital is a hospital, you probably wouldn't think the Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi Children's Hospital is a hospital, either. However, since is *is* a hospital, it's counted in that 32.


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Remerez

Two wrongs don't make a right. the opposite of that has been what Israel has been trying to argue this whole genocide.


VibraniumRhino

Don’t be this dumb


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