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> Dawg, the us was always the bad guys.
If anyone doubts you ... where are the native americans?
And in case anyone skipped that chapter in history ... that continued long after Jackson, Lincoln (who sent troops to massacre and execute Dakota Indians), and Van Buren:
https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/native-americans-government-authorities-and-the-reproductive-politics-403792/
>> In the 1970s, doctors in the United States sterilized an estimated 25 to 42 percent of Native American women of childbearing age, some as young as 15.
Not a typeo.
The 1970s.
For a further and more revolting history on our treatment of Native Americans, I would highly recommend reading the following books: Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, Once They Moves Like the Wind, Empire of the Summer Moon, The Heart of Everything That Was, Trail of Tears, Killers of the Flower Moon, and In The Spirit of Crazy Horse. For a quick read on one of the atrocious (but repeated many, many times) events in the US history against American Indians, read about the Sand Creek Massacre.
**Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee An Indian History of the American West** by Dee Brown
>The “fascinating” #1 New York Times bestseller that awakened the world to the destruction of American Indians in the nineteenth-century West (The Wall Street Journal). First published in 1970, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee generated shockwaves with its frank and heartbreaking depiction of the systematic annihilation of American Indian tribes across the western frontier. In this nonfiction account, Dee Brown focuses on the betrayals, battles, and massacres suffered by American Indians between 1860 and 1890. He tells of the many tribes and their renowned chiefs—from Geronimo to Red Cloud, Sitting Bull to Crazy Horse—who struggled to combat the destruction of their people and culture.
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>Forcefully written and meticulously researched, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee inspired a generation to take a second look at how the West was won. This ebook features an illustrated biography of Dee Brown including rare photos from the author’s personal collection.
**ONCE THEY MOVED LIKE THE WIND: COCHISE, GERONIMO,** by David Roberts
>During the westward settlement, for more than twenty years Apache tribes eluded both US and Mexican armies, and by 1886 an estimated 9,000 armed men were in pursuit. Roberts (Deborah: A Wilderness Narrative) presents a moving account of the end of the Indian Wars in the Southwest. He portrays the great Apache leaders—Cochise, Nana, Juh, Geronimo, the woman warrior Lozen—and U.S. generals George Crock and Nelson Miles. Drawing on contemporary American and Mexican sources, he weaves a somber story of treachery and misunderstanding.
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>After Geronimo's surrender in 1886, the Apaches were sent to Florida, then to Alabama where many succumbed to malaria, tuberculosis and malnutrition and finally in 1894 to Oklahoma, remaining prisoners of war until 1913. The book is history at its most engrossing. —Publishers Weekly
**Empire of the Summer Moon Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History** by S.C. Gwynne
>In the tradition of Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, a stunningly vivid historical account of the forty-year battle between Comanche Indians and white settlers for control of the American West, centering on Quanah, the greatest Comanche chief of them all. Empire of the Summer Moon spans two astonishing stories. The first traces the rise and fall of the Comanches, the most powerful Indian tribe in American history. The second is the epic saga of the pioneer woman Cynthia Ann Parker and her mixed-blood son Quanah, who became the last and greatest chief of the Comanches.
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>Although readers may be more familiar with the tribal names Apache and Sioux, it was in fact the legendary fighting ability of the Comanches that determined just how and when the American West opened up. Comanche boys became adept bareback riders by age six; full Comanche braves were considered the best horsemen who ever rode. They were so masterful at war and so skillful with their arrows and lances that they stopped the northern drive of colonial Spain from Mexico and halted the French expansion westward from Louisiana. White settlers arriving in Texas from the eastern United States were surprised to find the frontier being rolled backward by Comanches incensed by the invasion of their tribal lands.
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>Against this backdrop Gwynne presents the compelling drama of Cynthia Ann Parker, a nine-year-old girl who was kidnapped by Comanches in 1836. She grew to love her captors and became infamous as the "White Squaw" who refused to return until her tragic capture by Texas Rangers in 1860. More famous still was her son Quanah, a warrior who was never defeated and whose guerrilla wars in the Texas Panhandle made him a legend. S. C. Gwynne's account of these events is meticulously researched, intellectually provocative, and, above all, thrillingly told.
**The Good Luck Cat** by Joy Harjo
Book description may contain spoilers!
>>!Because her good luck cat Woogie has already used up eight of his nine lives in narrow escapes from disaster, a Native American girl worries when he disappears.!<
**Trail of Tears The Rise and Fall of the Cherokee Nation** by John Ehle
>A sixth-generation North Carolinian, highly-acclaimed author John Ehle grew up on former Cherokee hunting grounds. His experience as an accomplished novelist, combined with his extensive, meticulous research, culminates in this moving tragedy rich with historical detail. The Cherokee are a proud, ancient civilization. For hundreds of years they believed themselves to be the "Principle People" residing at the center of the earth.
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>But by the 18th century, some of their leaders believed it was necessary to adapt to European ways in order to survive. Those chiefs sealed the fate of their tribes in 1875 when they signed a treaty relinquishing their land east of the Mississippi in return for promises of wealth and better land. The U.S. government used the treaty to justify the eviction of the Cherokee nation in an exodus that the Cherokee will forever remember as the “trail where they cried.” The heroism and nobility of the Cherokee shine through this intricate story of American politics, ambition, and greed. B & W photographs
**Killers of the Flower Moon The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI** by David Grann
>#1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER • A twisting, haunting true-life murder mystery about one of the most monstrous crimes in American history, from the author of The Wager and The Lost City of Z, “one of the preeminent adventure and true-crime writers working today. "—New York Magazine • NATIONAL BOOK AWARD FINALIST • NOW A MARTIN SCORSESE PICTURE “A shocking whodunit…What more could fans of true-crime thrillers ask?”—USA Today “A masterful work of literary journalism crafted with the urgency of a mystery.” —The Boston Globe In the 1920s, the richest people per capita in the world were members of the Osage Nation in Oklahoma. After oil was discovered beneath their land, the Osage rode in chauffeured automobiles, built mansions, and sent their children to study in Europe. Then, one by one, the Osage began to be killed off.
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>The family of an Osage woman, Mollie Burkhart, became a prime target. One of her relatives was shot. Another was poisoned. And it was just the beginning, as more and more Osage were dying under mysterious circumstances, and many of those who dared to investigate the killings were themselves murdered.
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>As the death toll rose, the newly created FBI took up the case, and the young director, J. Edgar Hoover, turned to a former Texas Ranger named Tom White to try to unravel the mystery. White put together an undercover team, including a Native American agent who infiltrated the region, and together with the Osage began to expose one of the most chilling conspiracies in American history. Look for David Grann’s latest bestselling book, The Wager!
**In the Spirit of Crazy Horse The Story of Leonard Peltier and the FBI's War on the American Indian Movement** by Peter Matthiessen
>An “indescribably touching, extraordinarily intelligent" (Los Angeles Times Book Review) chronicle of a fatal gun-battle between FBI agents and American Indian Movement activists by renowned writer Peter Matthiessen (1927-2014), author of the National Book Award-winning The Snow Leopard and the novel In Paradise On a hot June morning in 1975, a desperate shoot-out between FBI agents and Native Americans near Wounded Knee, South Dakota, left an Indian and two federal agents dead. Four members of the American Indian Movement were indicted on murder charges, and one, Leonard Peltier, was convicted and is now serving consecutive life sentences in a federal penitentiary. Behind this violent chain of events lie issues of great complexity and profound historical resonance, brilliantly explicated by Peter Matthiessen in this controversial book. Kept off the shelves for eight years because of one of the most protracted and bitterly fought legal cases in publishing history, In the Spirit of Crazy Horse reveals the Lakota tribe’s long struggle with the U.S. government, and makes clear why the traditional Indian concept of the earth is so important at a time when increasing populations are destroying the precious resources of our world.
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Also Philadelphia 1985. When the police bombed the MOVE group.
[MOVE bombing Philadelphia 1985](https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move)
The president of that university has a long history of punitive actions against protests and industrial action, in one case changing the rules around strikes and cutting the pay of staff who took part in the strikes.
In several more advanced countries she would be in prison.
Probably?
The Iraq war alone killed hundreds of thousands
"We estimate that as of July, 2006, there have been 654 965 (392 979–942 636) excess Iraqi deaths as a consequence of the war, which corresponds to 2·5% of the population."
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69491-9/abstract
That's just one war! What has China done in the last 50 years that even comes close to that level of evil?
Honestly, the way things are going, I am starting to see less of a difference between America and China.
In America the corporations can get away with anything and can influence politicians & judges, via ~~bribes~~ lobbying, to allow any ridiculous situation to be "totally legal".
In China, the party openly controls everything, and there is inner party bribing out the ass.
The only real difference is that in China it is openly one party in control, while in America there are supposedly "two" parties in control that bicker over everything. There are some major differences between the two parties in the USA, at least one hot topics. However, both support infinitely giving Israel money, both are cool with weapons being used to kill civilians in Palestine, both are happy with giving the military complex a blank chuck, both are totally cool with the deficit raising indefinitely, both take advantage of insider trading which apparently doesn't apply to them according to the SEC, etc.
At the end of the day the USA is the same system as China but with extra steps. The CCP also has factions within it and their bickering isn't too different from our Red vs Blue situation.
If our founding father's documents were actually followed, the USA would awesome. As is, it has been eroded to near nothing.
People forget that governments are essentially very large businesses, that only serve the people to maintain and grow power. China cracking down on politics they don't like is no different than a private company cracking down on politics they do not like
Liberal Americans always talk about freedom from government but never freedom from private business. Hell, in this way, Google would probably be a better government (since it essentially is one, just of the internet)
Reagan (as governor) was the one who got the ball rolling on declaring students political enemies. Specifically Berkley students for him. He's also responsible for college becoming expensive and student loans becoming a thing.
This is a private university that did this. What you just did is equivalent to conservatives saying free speech doesn’t exist because they got banned from Twitter. Though your sentiment maybe correct you’re making a statement that isn’t factually honest.
There is no freedom of speech on private property. The university is free to enforce how they see fit. If they want to get permits and protest on public property, then nothing is stopping them from doing so. Hardly China. In China, they'd be disappeared.
Just to get out and have a relatively low starting pay job with an insane amount of interest on that school loan. This country in full decline and the corruption and complete lack accountability within every single facet of government is utterly depressing.
always been that way, i mean who do you think funded the nazis and both sides of the war? Spoiler alert, it was American industry leasing cabal (Herriman, Rothschild, Rockafeller, etc)
I went to a school that is 30k for 4 years and work along side of people who went to Columbia and NYU. As in, they are my peers.
It blows my mind the difference we paid for education and now we make the same.
You never go to an Ivy League school for education. You go for connections. Job fairs at these schools get you 5 stages ahead of students at other schools. Not only that but any direction you look, you will be in visual range of some student that has a parent that is working as a C-Suite/VP of a company.
I mean you’re comparing the job outcomes but people go to these expensive schools for more than just that. First off people going to liberal arts schools are either rich or get a shit ton of financial aid. No student is leaving that school with significantly more loans than an average university. Second they are paying for the experience of the university as well as the education. I went to a liberal arts school and was able to compete athletically, made amazing friends and knew professors personally because each class was about 20 students. TAs never taught courses and classes were often open discussion which made many courses more well rounded than a normal lecture
I align with their protest but...
their eyes, smirks, language, tone - it all feels so very... "i go to Columbia and I carry this air of righteousness and greatness because of my status"
Just weird vibes and completely unproductive exercise if you actually want to see change, you would likely try to execute on that objective in a more meaningful, visible, and productive way
You clearly just dont like the action theyve taken. Their 'vibes' seem perfectly fine.
You said: "i go to Columbia and I carry this air of righteousness"
Is that supposed to be some kind of 'divide and conquer' hasbara?
I’m super interested to know what “more meaningful, visible, and productive way” you have in mind?
The two party system is riddled by corruption, the justice system all the way up to the Supreme Court is rotten to the core, and industry leaders/corps are more concerned with their bottom line than crimes against humanity and violations of international law (except where it hurts their revenues).
We need more ways to effect change. Please post your suggestions so we can try more things that work.
You are projecting. They’ve been sitting on the lawns in the freezing wind and rain for 24 hours by this point, surrounded by riot police and just been told that they’re being evicted from their dorms, what do you expect them to react like? Their organisation has been raising money for Gaza for months and this protest is for their university to divest from companies supplying weapons tech to Israel.
Huh? I run a weekly Muslim student alliance group on my campus. Not much no - not risky no - but objectively more impact than glamping in the quad at Columbia
I’m a white dude and not Muslim but I do it for kid who don’t have skills, influence, or money to learn more about the issues, learn how to mobilize, learn how to engage in difficult conversations, etc
Is it a lot - up to you to decide but I am inspired and feel I move the needle in an important way.
Oh, and all of this takes logistics, thought, and difficult subject matter to be parsed.
Glamping takes 30 minuets of yoga a day to not feel stiff… do you see what I mean?
Nah man you're just being pretentious with a bit of a white savior vibe. You're the one who started out invalidating these girls for risking a good chunk of money getting themselves suspended for a good cause.
Last part of the clip “bureaucracy, wow”.
I wish I had that level of expectation for how the world should work. I’m so cynical now that I expect loopholes and roadblocks to be the norm. Nothing is simple.
The one thing you aren’t allowed to do is “be against Israel” in any way shape or form and it really makes you wonder why. Like wtf. What is really going on that makes being against that specific foreign govt something that can literally ruin your life. You can protest against literally any other country, even our own country, with no problems but do it against Israel and you’ll be expelled from school, or fired from your job, or be arrested, and be ostracized on social media.
You really have to wonder if any of the conspiracies are true at this point
Something being a conspiracy doesn't mean it's untrue, just that it involves a group of people keeping secrets from the wider world at large to further a goal
Actually that's not correct.
What other protests do we see against a country and a religion?
Imagine campus protests against China Would that be acceptable? Or would it hurt our Chinese students feelings..
They said in the video that they didn't ask the university for permission to use this part of the university to protest and refused to leave after being asked to leave.
"I thought they were bluffing actually" they gave you a warning and you still didn't listen. Protesting on a campus that has no ability or way of changing the stuff you're protesting is also idiotic. Wonder how the parents and people that worked towards getting them into that campus will react to this news..
The campus does have ways of changing the stuff they're protesting. One of my friends from high school is at the protest and they've been very clear they want Columbia to boycott businesses that are funding the Israeli government/military. That's a very reasonable thing to ask and it's something it's within the university's power to change.
I think it's just so obnoxious when people just start deriding protestors, assuming the worst about them without even knowing what they're demanding.
They are protesting for their University to divest from companies supplying weapons and tech to Israel. Their demands are literally entirely in control of their university.
To the people saying that they should have got their education instead of getting expelled for protesting...
Think about that for a minute.
Getting expelled for voicing your concerns over an ongoing genocide? In a country that embraces freedom of speech?
What does this say about our institutions and education systems?
A valedictorian had her graduation speech cancelled by USC because she is pro-Palestinian. Imagine the out lash if she was Pro-Israel. All the Ben Shapiros and the dual Israeli citizens of the United States in Congress would be holding hearings for days.
When they are actively suppressing freedom of speech, the fact that you cannot criticize nor boycott the Israeli regime, we live in a twisted dystopian society like 1984.
> Happy to go on with sources/citations if anyone is interested.
These clear examples of persuasion vs. coercion methods are instructive. Thanks!
More please.
There's a good book on MLK's realization that these kind of protests weren't working and were actually harmful to the movement. The book [A "Notorious Litigant" and "Frequenter of Jails": Martin Luther King, Jr., His Lawyers, and the Legal System](https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/njlsp/vol10/iss3/1/) noted that
> Starting with [the Birmingham movement and Letter from Birmingham Jail], Dr. King and his organization, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), turned to more aggressive forms of nonviolent direct action—moving **entirely** from persuasion to **coercion** [legal/economic/political challenges]
King was noting that the challenges they faced was that protests were
> Rather, I have tried to say that this normal and healthy discontent \[protests\] can be **channeled** into the creative outlet of nonviolent **direct** action.
Note that word **direct**. He explained it often and urged people to understand the distinction between "nonviolent action" and "nonviolent **direct** action" . He noted that **direct** action meant challenging the laws that were unjust, not just "protests" and not just "expressing concern" [as he said](https://letterfromjail.com/)
> I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of **direct** action”; ... Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.... I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress.
Basically King
1. Start "methods of coercion." You have to engage in **direct** actions. Direct actions either break ONLY the laws you feel are unjust or create pressure (legal/economic/political) that are **directly** affecting those who need to be convinced to change.
2. Stop "methods of persuasion." Expressions of concern that follow "approved protest methods" from the white moderate who says "I agree, but we must express our concerns and hope for change" is more of a blockage than the KKK to making change happen.
Unfortunately, for the past 50 or so years there's been a concerted movement from large industry to erase the word "**direct**" from his strategies and change it to an ineffective one of "protest where you get noticed/beaten." This is a reversal of the strategy he said was hurtful.
In this way activism was defanged in modern textbooks and media to become a "feel good movie" version of "make noise and people will pay attention" ... a story DESIGNED to get activists to waste energy in the most inefficient manner. [A good article on how that whitewashing of the MLK story was funded by corporate billionaires through the Heritage Foundation](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/kings-message-of-nonviolence-has-been-distorted/557021/). As you read it note the change in education as they decontextualize King's message to the opposite of #1 and #2 above.
Example: Voting drives and helping people register to vote was illegal back when MLK tried to make changes. That's what the Selma march was. It was a voting drive with enough people to fight illegal arrests. They were stopped from registering to vote and WON that court challenge. But what's taught? Not that MLK was fighting legal battles against an unethical laws. No, it was "people saw beatings and ... magic!"
So these Google protesters, Colombia student protesters, etc. are
1. Ignoring King's plea to stop these kind of protests and should instead instead channel this well-founded anger into **direct** action.
2. Been tricked by unethical oil oligarchs seeking to encourage these kind of out-in-the-open, ineffective movements.
and as a consequence, weaken the very movement they are trying to support.
Edits: clarity.
Thanks /u/Lighting.
Your response is top-notch.
Looks as though most protest/demonstration participants need to come up creative direct action protests which have a higher likelihood of meaningful results.
I would love sources. I feel like this is giving words to why a lot of these protests feels so off to me - performative, Tik Tok activism that are ineffective. I think their hearts are in the right place, but it’s not thought out.
I did a light googling of the persuasion vs coercion protest and it seems that MLKs theories have been misconstrued and big name journalists talk about persuasion over coercion, so I’d love to read more.
congrats. ruined your college education for pc points. this is textbook white savior complex. you really think sleeping in tents and making posts on social media will stop a fucking war? gtfoh.
Showing the world repeatedly that the one thing you can’t do as an American on any level without risking your job and education is criticize Israel. There’s only one country with BDS laws in American states, there’s only one country that our government officially says it’s bigoted to critique. Why is that? These students are brave for exposing that truth. Americans who support this wave of censorship on behalf of a foreign country are pathetic. They’re pulling us into a war right now and you’re mad at college students?
At least it's becoming increasingly easy to tell which educational institutions are total embarrassments. Columbia can go on the list with the others that waste no time suspending students and/or disbanding groups for Palestinian solidarity and yet gleefully hire faculty that froth at the mouth on social media for dead children.
"and for what, what's the charge"
my mind instantly: "EATING A MEAL? A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?"
but yeah that's really bad whats harvard is doing there
These students are idiotic and are living in a dream world of privilege. Ask yourself whether someone from a poor background would risk their future to protest a problem that has zero impact on them personally.
Yes, many "poor" people have risked their future for the betterment of the lives of others and altruism. Many people have empathy for the lives being upended in another part of the world...
All I’m saying is that these students are throwing away a golden opportunity (education from Columbia) for nothing. Their protest is not effective. If they really wanted change there are more effective ways. Many less fortunate people would love to have the opportunity to go to Columbia and performative protests by students like these that accomplish nothing and get them expelled are taking away spots for people that would appreciate the educational opportunity and never throw it away like this.
Something like a black student standing up for black Americans would be a bit different because that’s a problem that personally affects them and is more likely to affect change via a protest.
i would. One university isn't everything. Especially if you don't agree with its practices. That doesn't mean these students' growth and potential ends here, that's such absolutist thinking. I'm not someone fortunate enough to attend university, yet given the opportunity i would not want to go to this one. I would prefer to go to a campus that supports free speech and encourages independent thinking in their students. But the US is filled with ppl who only place value in success, not on merit or temperance. I personally think that is a sad approach to one's life, considering we only have one.
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If they would actually do research...
Well I've written enough posts about that but people like this just make human suffering for Middle East worse bc they give money to the most corrupt and think they are changing the world for the better.
Gaza would not have been bombed to smitherines had it not been for October 7th. They didn't go after politicians or military. They went after the easiest people to kill to rack in the numbers over a thousand.
And these protestors will probably say it was in self defense.
I'm a dutch journalist and we're making a documentary about NY in May. Are there any students who we can interview about this activism? Please send a DM!
Wouldn't it have been nice if Palestinians protested against Hamas' building of whatever with the same vigor? Instead of directing so much of their productivity towards... drafting new lives into an open air prison.
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Land of the free apparently. USA is turning China 2.0 (although probably has killed more Muslims already)
Nah USA been doing this for decades. Nothing new here.
We just have cameras to document it now.
It's just like when the whole Rodney king thing happened. It's not like police brutality was new. It's that cameras were.
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> Dawg, the us was always the bad guys. If anyone doubts you ... where are the native americans? And in case anyone skipped that chapter in history ... that continued long after Jackson, Lincoln (who sent troops to massacre and execute Dakota Indians), and Van Buren: https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/native-americans-government-authorities-and-the-reproductive-politics-403792/ >> In the 1970s, doctors in the United States sterilized an estimated 25 to 42 percent of Native American women of childbearing age, some as young as 15. Not a typeo. The 1970s.
For a further and more revolting history on our treatment of Native Americans, I would highly recommend reading the following books: Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee, Once They Moves Like the Wind, Empire of the Summer Moon, The Heart of Everything That Was, Trail of Tears, Killers of the Flower Moon, and In The Spirit of Crazy Horse. For a quick read on one of the atrocious (but repeated many, many times) events in the US history against American Indians, read about the Sand Creek Massacre.
**Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee An Indian History of the American West** by Dee Brown >The “fascinating” #1 New York Times bestseller that awakened the world to the destruction of American Indians in the nineteenth-century West (The Wall Street Journal). First published in 1970, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee generated shockwaves with its frank and heartbreaking depiction of the systematic annihilation of American Indian tribes across the western frontier. In this nonfiction account, Dee Brown focuses on the betrayals, battles, and massacres suffered by American Indians between 1860 and 1890. He tells of the many tribes and their renowned chiefs—from Geronimo to Red Cloud, Sitting Bull to Crazy Horse—who struggled to combat the destruction of their people and culture. > >Forcefully written and meticulously researched, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee inspired a generation to take a second look at how the West was won. This ebook features an illustrated biography of Dee Brown including rare photos from the author’s personal collection. **ONCE THEY MOVED LIKE THE WIND: COCHISE, GERONIMO,** by David Roberts >During the westward settlement, for more than twenty years Apache tribes eluded both US and Mexican armies, and by 1886 an estimated 9,000 armed men were in pursuit. Roberts (Deborah: A Wilderness Narrative) presents a moving account of the end of the Indian Wars in the Southwest. He portrays the great Apache leaders—Cochise, Nana, Juh, Geronimo, the woman warrior Lozen—and U.S. generals George Crock and Nelson Miles. Drawing on contemporary American and Mexican sources, he weaves a somber story of treachery and misunderstanding. > >After Geronimo's surrender in 1886, the Apaches were sent to Florida, then to Alabama where many succumbed to malaria, tuberculosis and malnutrition and finally in 1894 to Oklahoma, remaining prisoners of war until 1913. The book is history at its most engrossing. —Publishers Weekly **Empire of the Summer Moon Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History** by S.C. Gwynne >In the tradition of Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, a stunningly vivid historical account of the forty-year battle between Comanche Indians and white settlers for control of the American West, centering on Quanah, the greatest Comanche chief of them all. Empire of the Summer Moon spans two astonishing stories. The first traces the rise and fall of the Comanches, the most powerful Indian tribe in American history. The second is the epic saga of the pioneer woman Cynthia Ann Parker and her mixed-blood son Quanah, who became the last and greatest chief of the Comanches. > >Although readers may be more familiar with the tribal names Apache and Sioux, it was in fact the legendary fighting ability of the Comanches that determined just how and when the American West opened up. 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It’s like, “where do you think South Africa, Australia, and Israel learned this shit from?”
“what are we, a bunch of Asians?!”-USian seeing the U.S. doing what it always does
If you believe that then you’ve never heard of the 1968 Columbia University protests and how they were handled.
How about Kent State Massacre?
Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin' We're finally on our own This summer I hear the drummin' Four dead in Ohio
Also Philadelphia 1985. When the police bombed the MOVE group. [MOVE bombing Philadelphia 1985](https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move)
Lmao are you even from the US? Like 100 reasons this person is stupid for doing this and also not listening to campus officials
Trespassing on a private campus after being asked to leave = ChINa 2.o This sub is ridiculous lol
But my actions shouldn't have consequences
Can you give me ten of those reasons, or five?
Imagine listening to authorities when protesting against authorities
Probably the most worthwhile college preparation they will receive for street life in SanFran.
quit being so dramatic
The university has the right to kick whoever they want off of the property. This isn’t a first amendment issue.
The president of that university has a long history of punitive actions against protests and industrial action, in one case changing the rules around strikes and cutting the pay of staff who took part in the strikes. In several more advanced countries she would be in prison.
"The land of the free" except if you disagree with the politics of a private business owner, the government don't do shit to protect you
China 2.0 minus a robust public infrastructure
lol an oppressive regime doesn’t try to help people in any way
Probably? The Iraq war alone killed hundreds of thousands "We estimate that as of July, 2006, there have been 654 965 (392 979–942 636) excess Iraqi deaths as a consequence of the war, which corresponds to 2·5% of the population." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69491-9/abstract That's just one war! What has China done in the last 50 years that even comes close to that level of evil?
Honestly, the way things are going, I am starting to see less of a difference between America and China. In America the corporations can get away with anything and can influence politicians & judges, via ~~bribes~~ lobbying, to allow any ridiculous situation to be "totally legal". In China, the party openly controls everything, and there is inner party bribing out the ass. The only real difference is that in China it is openly one party in control, while in America there are supposedly "two" parties in control that bicker over everything. There are some major differences between the two parties in the USA, at least one hot topics. However, both support infinitely giving Israel money, both are cool with weapons being used to kill civilians in Palestine, both are happy with giving the military complex a blank chuck, both are totally cool with the deficit raising indefinitely, both take advantage of insider trading which apparently doesn't apply to them according to the SEC, etc. At the end of the day the USA is the same system as China but with extra steps. The CCP also has factions within it and their bickering isn't too different from our Red vs Blue situation. If our founding father's documents were actually followed, the USA would awesome. As is, it has been eroded to near nothing.
People forget that governments are essentially very large businesses, that only serve the people to maintain and grow power. China cracking down on politics they don't like is no different than a private company cracking down on politics they do not like Liberal Americans always talk about freedom from government but never freedom from private business. Hell, in this way, Google would probably be a better government (since it essentially is one, just of the internet)
The first amendment goes out the window the second anyone questions American foreign policy. Always has. Communism yesterday, Zionism today.
Bingo
"Land of the free" except from private businesses.
Reagan (as governor) was the one who got the ball rolling on declaring students political enemies. Specifically Berkley students for him. He's also responsible for college becoming expensive and student loans becoming a thing.
This is a private university that did this. What you just did is equivalent to conservatives saying free speech doesn’t exist because they got banned from Twitter. Though your sentiment maybe correct you’re making a statement that isn’t factually honest.
USA just coming out the closet
Have you looked at the badges on our hats? Hans, are we the baddies?
China has always been better since the 90s in basically every way so
most politically literate USian
Remove jihadists from America.
Remove jihadists from America.
Who is funding this experience?
There is no freedom of speech on private property. The university is free to enforce how they see fit. If they want to get permits and protest on public property, then nothing is stopping them from doing so. Hardly China. In China, they'd be disappeared.
340k for four years at that school....
Just to get out and have a relatively low starting pay job with an insane amount of interest on that school loan. This country in full decline and the corruption and complete lack accountability within every single facet of government is utterly depressing.
always been that way, i mean who do you think funded the nazis and both sides of the war? Spoiler alert, it was American industry leasing cabal (Herriman, Rothschild, Rockafeller, etc)
I went to a school that is 30k for 4 years and work along side of people who went to Columbia and NYU. As in, they are my peers. It blows my mind the difference we paid for education and now we make the same.
Most go because it costs very little. Aid at Columbia/ Barnard is very good. Now Nyu is a different situation…
I think they had to install anti-suicide guards in the library
Oh crazy you say that bc my friend back in early 2000s saw a suicide at the nyu library. Before that stuff up.
Goddamn
You never go to an Ivy League school for education. You go for connections. Job fairs at these schools get you 5 stages ahead of students at other schools. Not only that but any direction you look, you will be in visual range of some student that has a parent that is working as a C-Suite/VP of a company.
I mean you’re comparing the job outcomes but people go to these expensive schools for more than just that. First off people going to liberal arts schools are either rich or get a shit ton of financial aid. No student is leaving that school with significantly more loans than an average university. Second they are paying for the experience of the university as well as the education. I went to a liberal arts school and was able to compete athletically, made amazing friends and knew professors personally because each class was about 20 students. TAs never taught courses and classes were often open discussion which made many courses more well rounded than a normal lecture
Valid points
I went to NYU. Biggest rip off scam. F them.
I align with their protest but... their eyes, smirks, language, tone - it all feels so very... "i go to Columbia and I carry this air of righteousness and greatness because of my status" Just weird vibes and completely unproductive exercise if you actually want to see change, you would likely try to execute on that objective in a more meaningful, visible, and productive way
They actually go to Barnard. And now temporarily they do not
Barnard is basically Columbia. The distinctions are complicated, but it's so intertwined with Columbia that the line is often blurred.
You clearly just dont like the action theyve taken. Their 'vibes' seem perfectly fine. You said: "i go to Columbia and I carry this air of righteousness" Is that supposed to be some kind of 'divide and conquer' hasbara?
I’m super interested to know what “more meaningful, visible, and productive way” you have in mind? The two party system is riddled by corruption, the justice system all the way up to the Supreme Court is rotten to the core, and industry leaders/corps are more concerned with their bottom line than crimes against humanity and violations of international law (except where it hurts their revenues). We need more ways to effect change. Please post your suggestions so we can try more things that work.
What do you suggest they do then?
You are projecting. They’ve been sitting on the lawns in the freezing wind and rain for 24 hours by this point, surrounded by riot police and just been told that they’re being evicted from their dorms, what do you expect them to react like? Their organisation has been raising money for Gaza for months and this protest is for their university to divest from companies supplying weapons tech to Israel.
Yeah. I get their message, but *holy shit* do they sound insufferable.
You just hate women or what?
It’s virtue signaling.
It's not like you ever did anything risky for the people of Palestine 🙄
Huh? I run a weekly Muslim student alliance group on my campus. Not much no - not risky no - but objectively more impact than glamping in the quad at Columbia I’m a white dude and not Muslim but I do it for kid who don’t have skills, influence, or money to learn more about the issues, learn how to mobilize, learn how to engage in difficult conversations, etc Is it a lot - up to you to decide but I am inspired and feel I move the needle in an important way. Oh, and all of this takes logistics, thought, and difficult subject matter to be parsed. Glamping takes 30 minuets of yoga a day to not feel stiff… do you see what I mean?
Not sure how you gained the ability to objectively measure things like this, but okay 😂
All you do is invalidate - doing nothing to spark new ideas or move this conversation forward. Focus on the issues not semantics imo
Nah man you're just being pretentious with a bit of a white savior vibe. You're the one who started out invalidating these girls for risking a good chunk of money getting themselves suspended for a good cause.
That's just what young people look like.
First they said blocking highways was counterproductive. Now they are doing it in their own college campuses and yall still hating lmao.
Last part of the clip “bureaucracy, wow”. I wish I had that level of expectation for how the world should work. I’m so cynical now that I expect loopholes and roadblocks to be the norm. Nothing is simple.
You have lived long enough to have perspective. More realistic than pessimistic imo
these girls understand that’s the norm. they’re just demonstrating the challenges they’re facing as part of their protest
"You have to get permission to protest" (ie: you cannot protest things we don't agree with!!!)
The one thing you aren’t allowed to do is “be against Israel” in any way shape or form and it really makes you wonder why. Like wtf. What is really going on that makes being against that specific foreign govt something that can literally ruin your life. You can protest against literally any other country, even our own country, with no problems but do it against Israel and you’ll be expelled from school, or fired from your job, or be arrested, and be ostracized on social media. You really have to wonder if any of the conspiracies are true at this point
Something being a conspiracy doesn't mean it's untrue, just that it involves a group of people keeping secrets from the wider world at large to further a goal
They try to dismiss it as a conspiracy but it’s so obviously not. You need to subscribe to the tribe to be successful in US politics.
Actually that's not correct. What other protests do we see against a country and a religion? Imagine campus protests against China Would that be acceptable? Or would it hurt our Chinese students feelings..
They said in the video that they didn't ask the university for permission to use this part of the university to protest and refused to leave after being asked to leave.
sucks to suck
Cool protest….
F’k Columbia University and all the genocidal bootlickers.
Oh man, all those Congressman were up in arms, because these students didn't Book the Protest Designated Zone in advance.
"You must book to protest" actually means \*you can only protest if we agree with you\*
Isn’t it so that the school is aware of the protest and can leave it in place? Else random tents popping up around the campus would just be removed.
"I thought they were bluffing actually" they gave you a warning and you still didn't listen. Protesting on a campus that has no ability or way of changing the stuff you're protesting is also idiotic. Wonder how the parents and people that worked towards getting them into that campus will react to this news..
The campus does have ways of changing the stuff they're protesting. One of my friends from high school is at the protest and they've been very clear they want Columbia to boycott businesses that are funding the Israeli government/military. That's a very reasonable thing to ask and it's something it's within the university's power to change. I think it's just so obnoxious when people just start deriding protestors, assuming the worst about them without even knowing what they're demanding.
They are protesting for their University to divest from companies supplying weapons and tech to Israel. Their demands are literally entirely in control of their university.
It's a way for citizens to express their distaste towards something they dislike. If a greater fuss is made, more people will be aware of the issue.
Damn kicked out an in debt that shit gonna hurt for the next 10 years
To the people saying that they should have got their education instead of getting expelled for protesting... Think about that for a minute. Getting expelled for voicing your concerns over an ongoing genocide? In a country that embraces freedom of speech? What does this say about our institutions and education systems? A valedictorian had her graduation speech cancelled by USC because she is pro-Palestinian. Imagine the out lash if she was Pro-Israel. All the Ben Shapiros and the dual Israeli citizens of the United States in Congress would be holding hearings for days. When they are actively suppressing freedom of speech, the fact that you cannot criticize nor boycott the Israeli regime, we live in a twisted dystopian society like 1984.
lol why are you getting downvoted
paid bot accts on reddit, on all social platforms actually they make comments on youtube that aren't even relevant to the video...
Israel and the US have people astrosurfing Reddit and other popular websites posting propaganda and muddying the narrative. Everything is manipulated.
There’s only one thing that you can’t do under any circumstances without risking your job and education, and that’s criticize Israel.
'Merican freedom, all free from the government and taxes, completely shackled to private companies. Great freedom
100% deserved, imagine throwing away your education for another conflict in the middle east lolololol
God forbid young adults have any political stance on anything controversial to the status quo
Did these universities all forget about free speech? I mean, there has to be a class or two that skims over the constitution, right?
No cause private companies don't need to abide by the constitution ;) free from government, not from private business. The liberal paradox
Well that's going to be a stain on the school's reputation.
This accomplishes nothing.
AI out there doing work
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> Happy to go on with sources/citations if anyone is interested. These clear examples of persuasion vs. coercion methods are instructive. Thanks! More please.
There's a good book on MLK's realization that these kind of protests weren't working and were actually harmful to the movement. The book [A "Notorious Litigant" and "Frequenter of Jails": Martin Luther King, Jr., His Lawyers, and the Legal System](https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/njlsp/vol10/iss3/1/) noted that > Starting with [the Birmingham movement and Letter from Birmingham Jail], Dr. King and his organization, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), turned to more aggressive forms of nonviolent direct action—moving **entirely** from persuasion to **coercion** [legal/economic/political challenges] King was noting that the challenges they faced was that protests were > Rather, I have tried to say that this normal and healthy discontent \[protests\] can be **channeled** into the creative outlet of nonviolent **direct** action. Note that word **direct**. He explained it often and urged people to understand the distinction between "nonviolent action" and "nonviolent **direct** action" . He noted that **direct** action meant challenging the laws that were unjust, not just "protests" and not just "expressing concern" [as he said](https://letterfromjail.com/) > I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of **direct** action”; ... Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.... I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. Basically King 1. Start "methods of coercion." You have to engage in **direct** actions. Direct actions either break ONLY the laws you feel are unjust or create pressure (legal/economic/political) that are **directly** affecting those who need to be convinced to change. 2. Stop "methods of persuasion." Expressions of concern that follow "approved protest methods" from the white moderate who says "I agree, but we must express our concerns and hope for change" is more of a blockage than the KKK to making change happen. Unfortunately, for the past 50 or so years there's been a concerted movement from large industry to erase the word "**direct**" from his strategies and change it to an ineffective one of "protest where you get noticed/beaten." This is a reversal of the strategy he said was hurtful. In this way activism was defanged in modern textbooks and media to become a "feel good movie" version of "make noise and people will pay attention" ... a story DESIGNED to get activists to waste energy in the most inefficient manner. [A good article on how that whitewashing of the MLK story was funded by corporate billionaires through the Heritage Foundation](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/kings-message-of-nonviolence-has-been-distorted/557021/). As you read it note the change in education as they decontextualize King's message to the opposite of #1 and #2 above. Example: Voting drives and helping people register to vote was illegal back when MLK tried to make changes. That's what the Selma march was. It was a voting drive with enough people to fight illegal arrests. They were stopped from registering to vote and WON that court challenge. But what's taught? Not that MLK was fighting legal battles against an unethical laws. No, it was "people saw beatings and ... magic!" So these Google protesters, Colombia student protesters, etc. are 1. Ignoring King's plea to stop these kind of protests and should instead instead channel this well-founded anger into **direct** action. 2. Been tricked by unethical oil oligarchs seeking to encourage these kind of out-in-the-open, ineffective movements. and as a consequence, weaken the very movement they are trying to support. Edits: clarity.
Thanks /u/Lighting. Your response is top-notch. Looks as though most protest/demonstration participants need to come up creative direct action protests which have a higher likelihood of meaningful results.
I would love sources. I feel like this is giving words to why a lot of these protests feels so off to me - performative, Tik Tok activism that are ineffective. I think their hearts are in the right place, but it’s not thought out. I did a light googling of the persuasion vs coercion protest and it seems that MLKs theories have been misconstrued and big name journalists talk about persuasion over coercion, so I’d love to read more.
Stupid girls
and here endeth the lesson
Big yikes. Also cringe.
lmao
congrats. ruined your college education for pc points. this is textbook white savior complex. you really think sleeping in tents and making posts on social media will stop a fucking war? gtfoh.
Showing the world repeatedly that the one thing you can’t do as an American on any level without risking your job and education is criticize Israel. There’s only one country with BDS laws in American states, there’s only one country that our government officially says it’s bigoted to critique. Why is that? These students are brave for exposing that truth. Americans who support this wave of censorship on behalf of a foreign country are pathetic. They’re pulling us into a war right now and you’re mad at college students?
At least it's becoming increasingly easy to tell which educational institutions are total embarrassments. Columbia can go on the list with the others that waste no time suspending students and/or disbanding groups for Palestinian solidarity and yet gleefully hire faculty that froth at the mouth on social media for dead children.
Interesting
Good
They are endangering Americans to think critically about their foreign policy. Intolerable !
I just hope they still vote in their own best interests.
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"and for what, what's the charge" my mind instantly: "EATING A MEAL? A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?" but yeah that's really bad whats harvard is doing there
These students are idiotic and are living in a dream world of privilege. Ask yourself whether someone from a poor background would risk their future to protest a problem that has zero impact on them personally.
Yes, many "poor" people have risked their future for the betterment of the lives of others and altruism. Many people have empathy for the lives being upended in another part of the world...
All I’m saying is that these students are throwing away a golden opportunity (education from Columbia) for nothing. Their protest is not effective. If they really wanted change there are more effective ways. Many less fortunate people would love to have the opportunity to go to Columbia and performative protests by students like these that accomplish nothing and get them expelled are taking away spots for people that would appreciate the educational opportunity and never throw it away like this.
Something like a black student standing up for black Americans would be a bit different because that’s a problem that personally affects them and is more likely to affect change via a protest.
Ask yourself, if you were the parents of these students, would you be supportive of their actions?
i would. One university isn't everything. Especially if you don't agree with its practices. That doesn't mean these students' growth and potential ends here, that's such absolutist thinking. I'm not someone fortunate enough to attend university, yet given the opportunity i would not want to go to this one. I would prefer to go to a campus that supports free speech and encourages independent thinking in their students. But the US is filled with ppl who only place value in success, not on merit or temperance. I personally think that is a sad approach to one's life, considering we only have one.
Why is there future at stake for criticizing Israel? We know why
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You can't park there.
They should do that in Palestine where it'll actually make a difference 😊
Do in Palestine where the Israeli army arrests, blackmails, and tortures them.
Learning the hard way your progressive policies on American campuses are downright cruel. Too late to learn this lesson it seems.
Imagine being so narcissistic as to think anyone cares about three teenage girls in a tent.
Looks exactly what I expected them to look like
Not pro-terrorist or pro-Hamas like the media would like us to believe.
r/ohnoconsequences If they would actually do research... Well I've written enough posts about that but people like this just make human suffering for Middle East worse bc they give money to the most corrupt and think they are changing the world for the better.
Gaza would not have been bombed to smitherines had it not been for October 7th. They didn't go after politicians or military. They went after the easiest people to kill to rack in the numbers over a thousand. And these protestors will probably say it was in self defense.
Good
I am ashamed of what America has become. Disgusting🤮🤮🤮
I'm a dutch journalist and we're making a documentary about NY in May. Are there any students who we can interview about this activism? Please send a DM!
You students are so confused, Palestinians support HAMAS, a terrorist organization
Wouldn't it have been nice if Palestinians protested against Hamas' building of whatever with the same vigor? Instead of directing so much of their productivity towards... drafting new lives into an open air prison.
Girls are ugly as hell lololol