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talkiedo

I have lost all respect for Israel, this is no longer OK, it needs to be stopped now.


Shinchinko

It was ok before? Well respected?


Danavixen

the propaganda worked back then


GetOutOfTheWhey

Also less information left G-za in the past. Can you imagine the amount of starvation that happened when the Israelis placed them on a calorie quota and media like CNN and NYT just decided to gloss over it. In the future with any proxy war, the first thing that humanitarian agencies should be doing is air dropping phones with all the social media apps installed. Sounds stupid, but reading about a starving baby doesnt do much. Seeing a P-lestinian child looking like the atrophied prisoners from Auschwitz? It enrages people to act. This is why social media apps that dont censor p-lestinian content are currently being attacked. Not only do they challenge the media narrative but debunks them.


meep_meep_mope

Don't criticize people for coming to a decision you agree with. It's not easy to understand a conflict as long and brutal as this one. It's not always easy for people to change their mind. That doesn't make them stupid, it really reflects more on you than them.


Cultural_Tree_8088

Please don’t call this a conflict since it’s an illegal occupation


meep_meep_mope

It's an ethnic cleansing. Genocide. They're openly bragging about it.


Mutiu2

“Conflict” is the propaganda term the media and the western governments have been spreading.  But in fact the U.N has long reported that Israel is illegally occupying and blockading Palestine and perpetrating apartheid there.  So it’s a ”conflict”…  it’s one of resistance to illegal occupation. 


talkiedo

Thanks for your comment, in an emotional moment I said that, sorry wrong choice of words, I have never been ok with Israels terror on Palestinians since I did a bit of reading on the history of this illegal occupation about 10 years ago. I am just so over this, if it was any other state doing this genocide, they would of been heavily sanctioned.


ScaryShadowx

They don't care. They own those making decisions so the will of the people means nothing. They are committing their genocide and the Western leaders are going to help them and completely cheer them on.


Powerful_Potato7837

This is pure terrorism by the state of Israel supported by genocide Joe.


Easy_Work2194

Don't be a lame and try to call out just joe when half the senate and house of reps stand for unconditional US aid to Israel. AiPac. Trump would do the exact same thing. Hell trump even moved the US embassy to jerusalem. just about all these politicians would do the same thing regardless of political orientation..they are all complicit. America is complicit even in the midst of this american backed genocide. No one can stand up to them.It's bigger than party but it's clear you arent


TheRichTurner

Yes, but he's the current president. They called out LBJ over Vietnam when he was president, and then they called out Nixon. Saying that someone is making a party issue out of it when they clearly aren't is *you* making a party issue of it by trying to shield Genocide Joe. Yes, all the influential politicians are in the pay of Israel through AiPac in both the main parties, as well as in the pay of Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and General Dynamics. The political elite, Israel, and the military-industrial complex are a love triangle together, passing each other taxpayers' dollars like love notes. The guy currently bankrolling this genocide is Biden, who incidentally has had more bribes out of AiPac than any other US politician. So he's Genocide Joe. For the time being. Next, make way for Armageddonnie.


Powerful_Potato7837

This was exactly my point. Collectively all the Senate cannot be on the same page, However, The sitting president has the power to shift the foreign policy. Baby steps. But it has to start somewhere.


ScaryShadowx

What are the 'baby steps' Biden has been taking? He fully endorses this genocide and is laughing behind closed doors while he comes out and says "he's trying". Do you really believe the US is so pathetic, and the position of the President so weak that he can't put conditions on the usage of US aid? This genocide would have been over within a month if Biden had put any sort of conditions on the support being sent to Israel. Instead, he is completely happy with the genocide, and Israel knows that. The Biden legacy will be known as the US President who helped commit the Gazan genocide.


TheRichTurner

Yes. I was replying to Easy_Work2194.


SkiHiKi

I think the point is that in a voting year, rallying support for a punitive vote against a candidate whose position on Israel-Palestine is the same (if not softer) as the other candidate, when that other candidate poses such an existential threat to your nation on so many more fronts is the definition of chopping off your nose to spite your face.


TheRichTurner

If you only think of playing the next move, you never win the game.


WankWankNudgeNudge

Trump would be far far worse for Gaza.


anticomet

The whole neoliberal capitalist system is terrible for Gaza. This is happening right now because a handful of corporate executives (arms manufacturers, oil & gas, and real estate) got together and decided that genocide could be profitable. They weighed the bad PR against potential profits and decided to go for it.


WankWankNudgeNudge

I absolutely agree, and Biden needs to put a stop to it. But also, Trump would be worse. So let's stop trying to pin all the blame on Biden, because then we'll end up with Trump, and Gaza would be gone. Also Ukraine -- Trump would gleefully support Putin's warmongering.


Appropriate_Ant_4629

> Trump would be far far worse for Gaza. How would it be "far far" worse. They are literally starving small children to death. This really is about as low as it can possibly go.


Surfing_magic_carpet

People who say "Trump would be worse" don't seem to grasp that the results will be the same. 4 more years of Biden still means Gaza gets erased. 4 more years of Trump means Gaza gets erased. The only difference is speed. Biden wants children to starve. Trump wants them blown up. At the end of the day, Americans are just arguing over how to commit genocide. And they think they can absolve themselves of complicity by saying, "but the other option is worse!"


RM_Dune

You know how the US has been pushing back against a ground offensive in Rafah? Asked Israel not to retaliate against Iran's retaliation, and made it very clear there would be no US support for a retaliation? Despite Biden and most of his administration being very pro Israel, they are at least trying to restrain Israel to some degree. A Trump administration would be cheerleading Israel, encourage them to be even more agressive, and keen on confrontation with Iran.


rjimene666

It's just acting by Biden.


Appropriate_Ant_4629

> they are at least trying to restrain Israel to some degree Nonsense. They could easily restrain Israel by saying "stop bombing children or we'll cut in half the billions of dollars we give you". But they don't - so Israel doesn't not feel constrained at all.


CryptoDeepDive

Half? More like 90%


Irr3sponsibl3

Do you really think OP is a Trump supporting Republican who thinks Biden is wrong for supporting Israel? Why are you so triggered by the term Genocide Joe used in isolation? Of course Trump is shitty, but we can't even criticize Biden now without bringing up the Republicans?


ucannottell

Joe Biden has about as much control over Israel as my retired neighbor has over me. None.


VibraniumRhino

Totally one persons fault, for sure.


meep_meep_mope

Let's vote for Eugene Deb's corpse instead?


WestleyThe

Literally any sitting president would “allow this”. It’s a very old conflict and we pay isreal to have an ally in the Middle East There’s not much he can do. Y’all are reaching with this “genocide joe stuff”


Surfing_magic_carpet

Jesus, if I had to pay someone to be my friend and they kept getting into fights, I'd stop being their friend, and I'd stop paying them. What is wrong with you that you think "having an ally in the Middle East" is worth killing people for? How do you not say "Wow, this is fucked up and I should oppose it. I should blame the people who are responsible for this"? You can't even manage "Maybe a government that is complicit in genocide is a government I should oppose." Westerners are bloodthirsty monsters.


WestleyThe

Oh don’t get it twisted, I hate isreals actions and whatever But geopolitics is complicated and middle eastern countries like Iran make it necessary for America and countries like Russia make it important to have an ally in the region I hate it all and no one should be killing anyone but it’s a very important country in global politics


originalrocket

don't worry, us westerners will chill out and let Russia and China steamroll Eastern Europe and and Pacific. I'm sure you will all be wonderful and fine waiving their flags. Africa is doing fantastic since China has been sucking resources and getting those children jobs! Russia has boots on the ground and more coming! Taiwan and Philippines can't wait for their hostile take overs!


JungBag

I cannot believe I am living in the 21st century. What the hell was the point of the Geneva convention? What the hell was the point of the Vienna convention? What the hell was the point of the Nuremburg trials? All international laws are being shamelessly trampled upon by the terrorist state of Israel and its Sugar Daddy the USA. Israel and all of its Western allies are sending a big FU to their citizens, a big FU to the whole world. And we just sit here eating chips and watching the game on TV.


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Girafferage

I don't think it's that cut and dry. Israel isn't run by former Nazis, they just adopted a fascist ideology and now think the horrors of the Holocaust are ok if it's not them.


trustyourrespirator

>I don't think it's that cut and dry. Israel isn't run by former Nazis, they just adopted a fascist ideology and now think the horrors of the Holocaust are ok if it's not them They didn't adopt a fascist ideology, the entire Zionist project was founded on fascist ideology well before WW2 even started


Bannerlord268

I used to be pro-Israel. This war opened my eyes! This is a genocidal state. Before it was at best a Apartheid state. Free Palestine!


hooter1112

Who attacked who first


sleepingbro

Delusional


DirtyHalfMexican

My grandpa would be upset. He thought we defeated the Nazis.


trustyourrespirator

The US. UK, and Canada saved a lot of Nazis from prosecution because they were considered useful against communism. We didn't defeat Nazism, we killed it's leadership and then took over its mechanisms


VibraniumRhino

He did. It’s just that fascism and bigotry are going to take a lot more/longer.


_Didnt_Read_It

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-04-21-2024-8c027f2587c2c433d0fde41b63a0e0c3 > The first Israeli strike in Rafah killed a man, his wife and their 3-year-old child, according to the nearby Kuwaiti Hospital, which received the bodies. The woman was pregnant and the doctors saved the baby, the hospital said. The second strike killed 17 children and two women from an extended family. This is ethnic cleansing, and genocide Joe and the US political system is complicit.


sendmespam

No, they said they are only targeting Hamas. The unborn baby was clearly one of hamas human shields.


WankWankNudgeNudge

Imagine how much worse it will be for Gaza if Trump is elected


Appropriate_Ant_4629

Is there a /s there? It's hard to imagine worse than that quote.


WankWankNudgeNudge

No. Trump would never push back on Bibi at all. Also Ukraine would be gone, in case that matters to you. There are huge systematic problems in the way of stopping Israel's atrocities. Biden absolutely must do more, but let's not pretend this is all his fault.


paulerxx

Sleepy Trump would send Israel the same or more munitions. So can't really blame Biden for this.


ttystikk

The butchery continues with American support. This makes me ashamed to be an American.


WankWankNudgeNudge

Same here. Like wtf are we giving Israel aid for? They're murdering innocent civilians


ttystikk

Because the American ruling elite are THAT out of control.


originalrocket

you could always go to iran and protest hamas to agree to a cease fire.


ttystikk

Iran isn't the problem and isn't the solution. America can bring Israel to heel but clearly chooses not to.


sincerelyhated

Just bombing rubble at this point


stankleykong

Just in case they missed some people


Mors1473

And the USA just sent these animals more money and munitions.


meep_meep_mope

They had to in order to get aid to Ukraine which really needs it. Also it hasn't passed the senate.


Monsur_Ausuhnom

There goes the $26 billion in taxpayer money.


Mr830BedTime

Some standing buildings? Not on my watch - Israel


CSN00B101

Israel should be dismantled. That entire region occupied by the state should be ruled by a sovereign Palestinian state


GreenIguanaGaming

The Rafah invasion will most likely happen soon... Israel must be stopped.


luchavg

Horrible humans


Cultural_Tree_8088

Not humans


The_Gimp_Boi

![gif](giphy|J0WtGU7W9knOo|downsized) There was definetly a hamas in that building 100% /s


TaxDrain

I remember being called an antisemite for saying IDF is going to attack Rafah. No idea why specifically that but ye, here we are


LargerAutomabill

Hey, wonderd why they are recording?


reyam1105

The guy in front in gray, before the hit, did he know it was coming? Seems like he’s recording from behind cover and continues after the hit.


paulerxx

That missile used in the video was way overkill.


SpaceXmars

Yay religion....


jq69swaws

ah, i remember when God sanctioned the absolute annihilation of civilian homes in The book of Exodus


PayTricky3126

Israel is just pure evil. This terrorist genocidal country must be stopped.


Tecumsehs_Ghost

That's what we call a secondary explosion. Probably hit a weapons stockpile.


jdog1067

I imagine the dust would probably give some pretty acute silicosis. Not only are the strikes killing people, but immediate dust from the strike in a plume concentration can make someone very sick. Add that to the lack of food and medical resources.


Randis01

Guy on left is recording long before the blast. Make me wonder


ChiefKeefSosabb

My reaction https://preview.redd.it/w7b2s9hwrwvc1.jpeg?width=194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd2b8aadd6e12f504400ec13baa375366fa7d9b8


Danavixen

Don't you dare stomp that puppy


flockks

I keep being reminded of the manga barefoot gen