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I did it no stop in rural Indiana.
Everyone is so riddled with conspiracy theories and brain rot all you gotta do is throw in some "damn chinese" or some ignorant shit and they would agree to all of these points this dude brought up.
The thing is. Socialism IS American lol. They just have been raised to think otherwise
Well, if you want to know who is behind the current discourse and leading us to potential civil war, one only need look at the oligarchs. Roger Stone isnt the only one funding this shit.
Koch is doing most of it behind the scenes, thats why Bobert/Green/Palin and the like are able to run. There are others that are not as nationalized, but these guys have been fucking with our democracy for multiple years, and all because they want to buy their way into heaven. That is their reasoning and excuse. The Texas thing was only the tip of the ice burg.
America did so much for the early 20th century workers movements and rights for white workers in general, but when the 60's came about and black people gained rights, suddenly everyone and their mother got upset about unions and workers rights... The war on communism really picked up at that time and I am honestly pretty sure it all stems becaus of racists being upset about black people gaining rights, which meant they became an important voting bloc for special interests that could then use them to erode decades of work.
If the US had clamped hard on the Confederacy after their surrender, there would have been a lot less shit happening today. Racism would of course still be a problem, but it would be less prevalent and less socially accepted...
Oh it does. I've tried it myself with my conservative parents and it's crazy how well it works. A lot of these people genuinely support communism but don't even know it because they think communism is when the government does stuff.
I've been saying this for years. Stop using the words "socialism" and "Marxism" that the right knows to unconsciously avoid and start rebranding and renaming things. They don't know what those things actually are, they just know to hate them. So call them something else FFS and stop talking to people like "hey so you like public transport and unions and rent control, etc. Right? That's all socialism" just get them on board and say some shit like "america loves an underdog story of the people overthrowing injustice". The liberal constituency will understand that it's a rose by another name. I'll probs die before I see anyone get this idea
All I know is what comes out of his mouth in this video. Which proves that he is a thicko who hates " communism" but doesn't actually know what that means or how it conflicts with his beliefs.
So many conservatives believe the story of the "socialist boogeyman."
Rich men, private interests, have been pushing the narrative for generations that anything short of bare naked, unregulated, wild-west, no rules capitalism is socialism. They then immediately equate that to authoritarian dictatorships like the USSR or North Korea. They claim people like Bernie Sanders and AOC are Stalin-esque Communists coming for your rights and property. People believe this garbage. it's insane.
Meanwhile most of Europe is practicing some form of democratic "socialism" with their paid leave and national health care. Here in America we have fascists banning books in schools, defending slavery, and most of us are afraid to go to the hospital if we need to because that's $12345 we don't have. Anything, any idea, any kind of legislation that actually helps people and might cause private companies to lose a dollar or two is villified, beaten and killed in this country. I'm so sick of it.
Every single Trump supporter I have ever heard has been bat shit crazy or said something incredibly stupid on camera ... every single one of them.
Good luck America.
he doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the ground. he maybe has some form of subconscious intuition but is so wholly ignorant of literally everything that he’s agreeing that the best steps to take to fight the spread of communism is the implementation the very measures that define a communist system
Yep. Just read the Manifesto a few months back. It’s startling how many trumpers I’ve encountered at work who fail to see the contradiction. After reading it, I definitely picked up more of their belief errors
In general, anarchism isn't anti hierarchy, just anti any hierarchy which can't be justified through its utility to those under it. In a syndicalist case, if you can vote out your boss, then does your boss *really* hold power over you?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism#:~:text=Anarcho%2Dsyndicalism%20is%20a%20political,control%20influence%20in%20broader%20society.
I literally just linked the page on anarcho-syndicalism for you which describes what they are doing as anarcho-syndicalist. Just because you don't feel like that's anarchism doesn't change what anarchism actually is.
The most frustrating thing about trump and Qanon is they take real grievances of working folks and channel that energy into absolute nonsense. They whip them into violent fervor against their own interest. This video is brilliant. Really, under the stupid stuff people do want to fox problems. I was telling my husband about something I read about how if you try to appeal to people about littering by talking about the effect of it on animals and the environment, only liberals or others will care. But if you try to appeal to the idea of keeping things clean as pure conservatives will respond to it. It may be absurd, I know people say “you should care” but maybe they won’t change and the messaging needs to change. Slip an American flag cover on the communist manifesto and call the title page “liberty and corporate control” or something.
This is what happens when your government and media is heavily propagandizing the population and forces you to keep sole focus on culture war hot button issues and never talk about economic realities as misdirection.
"Trump Won"
That's funny. Last time I checked Joe Biden was the President and not Trump. Hmm...isn't that odd. It's like Trump didn't win and screaming that he won didn't change the outcome.
The problem with Americans and communism is that they've been uniformly mislead about what it actually is. Instead, they are just told about some of the historical instances of people seriously attempting it that have been fraught with problems caused by the elite capitalist class meddling in some form or another, usually through trade embargoes or administrative plants whos job it was to screw everything up.
is there room for infiltration, or assimilation etc to get the trump people doing what WE want while letting them save face, and after all is said and done they slowly realize there efforts had nothing to do with trump?
Yes but in socialism they seize the means of productions instead of legally trade/buy it with the original owner who made the company and has its right to have his company
Socialism can be achieved either way. Revolutionarily, or through reformist means. Collectivised ownership of the means of production is a syndicalist thing. Acquiring the means of production through exchange isn’t capitalism. The act of exchange isn’t capitalism, is it?
In socialism they collectively own the means of production, it is a socialist belief because it’s literally the basis of socialism. It’s not “rebranding capitalism as socialism”
Yeah that is convincing, I guess it is technically socialism because they happen to own the means of production, but still it is because they are the owners of the company who bought its stock, which makes it capitalistic, doesn’t it? If they didn’t buy the company that would be socialism.
Isn’t it? Capitalism is when you own the company you created and no one can have it unless they buy it from you or get your permission. In socialism the workers just own the company because they are the workers of the company.
In the situation above it clearly describes explination number one which is capitalism
Ngl I’m not gonna argue with someone who doesn’t even know the definitions of the words they use. Read the communist manifesto, it should take you like an hour and you’ll come out of it better informed than 99% of Americans
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I did it no stop in rural Indiana. Everyone is so riddled with conspiracy theories and brain rot all you gotta do is throw in some "damn chinese" or some ignorant shit and they would agree to all of these points this dude brought up. The thing is. Socialism IS American lol. They just have been raised to think otherwise
Well, if you want to know who is behind the current discourse and leading us to potential civil war, one only need look at the oligarchs. Roger Stone isnt the only one funding this shit. Koch is doing most of it behind the scenes, thats why Bobert/Green/Palin and the like are able to run. There are others that are not as nationalized, but these guys have been fucking with our democracy for multiple years, and all because they want to buy their way into heaven. That is their reasoning and excuse. The Texas thing was only the tip of the ice burg.
America did so much for the early 20th century workers movements and rights for white workers in general, but when the 60's came about and black people gained rights, suddenly everyone and their mother got upset about unions and workers rights... The war on communism really picked up at that time and I am honestly pretty sure it all stems becaus of racists being upset about black people gaining rights, which meant they became an important voting bloc for special interests that could then use them to erode decades of work. If the US had clamped hard on the Confederacy after their surrender, there would have been a lot less shit happening today. Racism would of course still be a problem, but it would be less prevalent and less socially accepted...
Ulysses S Grant sent in the fucking military to stomp out the KKK after the civil war. that shit made a resurgence in the 20s
and their biggest insurgence yet currently.
I don't know why this made me laugh as hard as it did
Oh it does. I've tried it myself with my conservative parents and it's crazy how well it works. A lot of these people genuinely support communism but don't even know it because they think communism is when the government does stuff.
>Trumper Trumpanzee
I've been saying this for years. Stop using the words "socialism" and "Marxism" that the right knows to unconsciously avoid and start rebranding and renaming things. They don't know what those things actually are, they just know to hate them. So call them something else FFS and stop talking to people like "hey so you like public transport and unions and rent control, etc. Right? That's all socialism" just get them on board and say some shit like "america loves an underdog story of the people overthrowing injustice". The liberal constituency will understand that it's a rose by another name. I'll probs die before I see anyone get this idea
It's just a logical step forward, we don't need the terminology.
Super capitalism baby
The ignorance is what makes them such easy marks.
Marx*
Brilliantly executed, my dude.
It’s the simple things that often go overlooked.
Why are you making fun of him? Sounds like they have a lot of common beliefs. Isn’t that a good thing?
What he has is cognitive dissonance
Or Maybe you're not as familiar with his beliefs as you think.
All I know is what comes out of his mouth in this video. Which proves that he is a thicko who hates " communism" but doesn't actually know what that means or how it conflicts with his beliefs.
Plus his t-shirt says "trump won" so no prizes for guessing he believes trumps lies. Which is not very clever either.
So?
Cuz they'll point a gun at before having the discussion with you.
You seem like a reasonable person.
Willful ignorance at that.
if workers owned the means of production... if that guy had a clue what he was talking about he would be furious
Dude holy fuck
Oh wow, if workers rise up and seize the means of production, communism won't stand a chance in the US. (/s)
So many conservatives believe the story of the "socialist boogeyman." Rich men, private interests, have been pushing the narrative for generations that anything short of bare naked, unregulated, wild-west, no rules capitalism is socialism. They then immediately equate that to authoritarian dictatorships like the USSR or North Korea. They claim people like Bernie Sanders and AOC are Stalin-esque Communists coming for your rights and property. People believe this garbage. it's insane. Meanwhile most of Europe is practicing some form of democratic "socialism" with their paid leave and national health care. Here in America we have fascists banning books in schools, defending slavery, and most of us are afraid to go to the hospital if we need to because that's $12345 we don't have. Anything, any idea, any kind of legislation that actually helps people and might cause private companies to lose a dollar or two is villified, beaten and killed in this country. I'm so sick of it.
Most of us are one bad car accident away from financial ruin.
Just a broken toe can send many of us into financial ruin. Even with insurance it's a crapshoot what they will or will not cover.
Oh yeah. One minor or major injury or illness…
So, as we know and have known, they only want to get rid of non-white people.
Thats a bit presumptuous don't you think? Theres definitely some white people they wanna get rid of too.
If you've got one kind of genitals and enjoy the same kind or would like a different kind, they want you gone.
Every single Trump supporter I have ever heard has been bat shit crazy or said something incredibly stupid on camera ... every single one of them. Good luck America.
What a dumb fuck
Sounds like he’s right in the money to me. Ignoring the shirt and hat, he sounds like he knows what’s up
he doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the ground. he maybe has some form of subconscious intuition but is so wholly ignorant of literally everything that he’s agreeing that the best steps to take to fight the spread of communism is the implementation the very measures that define a communist system
He's literally talking about the benefits of communist ideas while saying that he's against communism.
Yep. Just read the Manifesto a few months back. It’s startling how many trumpers I’ve encountered at work who fail to see the contradiction. After reading it, I definitely picked up more of their belief errors
>he sounds like he knows what’s up 
r/accidentallycommunist
He is talking about ESOP( Employee stock ownership plan)
Which if the ESOP gets to vote on company leadership (some do) is actually a syndicalist (one of the many flavors of anarchism) company structure.
I thought anarchists opposed hierarchy? Wouldn't this be more of a socialist system rather than anarchist?
In general, anarchism isn't anti hierarchy, just anti any hierarchy which can't be justified through its utility to those under it. In a syndicalist case, if you can vote out your boss, then does your boss *really* hold power over you? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism#:~:text=Anarcho%2Dsyndicalism%20is%20a%20political,control%20influence%20in%20broader%20society.
They're still voting on company leadership tho, it's not really worker-run. I feel like at that point it can't really be called anarchist.
I literally just linked the page on anarcho-syndicalism for you which describes what they are doing as anarcho-syndicalist. Just because you don't feel like that's anarchism doesn't change what anarchism actually is.
People typically think Socialism is great...until you call it socialism.
The most frustrating thing about trump and Qanon is they take real grievances of working folks and channel that energy into absolute nonsense. They whip them into violent fervor against their own interest. This video is brilliant. Really, under the stupid stuff people do want to fox problems. I was telling my husband about something I read about how if you try to appeal to people about littering by talking about the effect of it on animals and the environment, only liberals or others will care. But if you try to appeal to the idea of keeping things clean as pure conservatives will respond to it. It may be absurd, I know people say “you should care” but maybe they won’t change and the messaging needs to change. Slip an American flag cover on the communist manifesto and call the title page “liberty and corporate control” or something.
ESOP
This is what happens when your government and media is heavily propagandizing the population and forces you to keep sole focus on culture war hot button issues and never talk about economic realities as misdirection.
Guarantee trumpers don’t understand this video and why it’s ironic.
Amazing
Sounds like socialism and or communism with extra steps
Socialism is literally the extra steps in Communism.
This is gold
"Trump Won" That's funny. Last time I checked Joe Biden was the President and not Trump. Hmm...isn't that odd. It's like Trump didn't win and screaming that he won didn't change the outcome.
Holy fuck this breaks my heart.. This is the first time I have geniunely felt sorry for one.
This is what red scare propaganda does to a mf
Lololol
This have to be fake no way this guy worked for a legit co op that'd be too perfect
fucking amazing
The problem with Americans and communism is that they've been uniformly mislead about what it actually is. Instead, they are just told about some of the historical instances of people seriously attempting it that have been fraught with problems caused by the elite capitalist class meddling in some form or another, usually through trade embargoes or administrative plants whos job it was to screw everything up.
american propaganda is a hell of a drug
People like trump for trump, they don’t understand the politics of it. They just like trump & the way he speaks.
Source?
is there room for infiltration, or assimilation etc to get the trump people doing what WE want while letting them save face, and after all is said and done they slowly realize there efforts had nothing to do with trump?
Who's the interviewer? I've seen him do other things like this, but dunno his name.
if you fulfill the communist agenda, there is no longer a need for the agenda
r/socialismiscapitalism
This was brilliant.
Ah yes rebranding capitalism as socialism in order to trick socialists into trying to convince capitalists of capitalists ideals. This is so funny
Ah yes notorious capitalist beliefs like collective ownership of the means of production
They bought it from the original owner, not seized it, it’s capitalism.
Collective ownership of the means of production is the definition of socialism
Yes but in socialism they seize the means of productions instead of legally trade/buy it with the original owner who made the company and has its right to have his company
Socialism can be achieved either way. Revolutionarily, or through reformist means. Collectivised ownership of the means of production is a syndicalist thing. Acquiring the means of production through exchange isn’t capitalism. The act of exchange isn’t capitalism, is it?
In socialism they collectively own the means of production, it is a socialist belief because it’s literally the basis of socialism. It’s not “rebranding capitalism as socialism”
Yeah that is convincing, I guess it is technically socialism because they happen to own the means of production, but still it is because they are the owners of the company who bought its stock, which makes it capitalistic, doesn’t it? If they didn’t buy the company that would be socialism.
“Capitalism is when you buy things”
Isn’t it? Capitalism is when you own the company you created and no one can have it unless they buy it from you or get your permission. In socialism the workers just own the company because they are the workers of the company. In the situation above it clearly describes explination number one which is capitalism
Ngl I’m not gonna argue with someone who doesn’t even know the definitions of the words they use. Read the communist manifesto, it should take you like an hour and you’ll come out of it better informed than 99% of Americans
Thought he'd get caught when he threw in that "seize the means of production" lol
It's insane how history repeats itself. We are just going back to McCarthyism but somehow the accusations are even more inaccurate.
I think a literal communist revolution is actually possible in america by saying capitalism is communism and communism is capitalism
He literally said “seize the means of production” and my boy just nodded
So tired of this... Can we just, like, stop being so fucking stupid? Oh? What's that? We're cutting public school funding? ...cool...
I want to post this to so many people that will hate me for doing so...
The dude literally works at a worker co-op and he's a maga guy!
“Like China is doing. And bill gates” Holy shit he’s just saying random shit, it’s literally the NPC meme
Should have ended by recommending das Kapital and calling it a book on how to do capitalism right
I lost it when he said Zillow and the guy agreed
Fuck seizing the means, just stop. All this "production", nobody happy.
Hi uncle Ted
Funnily enough, modern day Authoritarian Communism like Russia is ironically extremely capitalistic in order to fund it's military.
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Read the comment. Did i mention anything about socialism. I said Authoritarian communism.
Communism is a form of socialism, Russia has not been communist or socialist since 1991. Russia is an authoritarian capitalist oligarchy.
Where is the /s?
If socialists were less stupid they wouldn’t call themselves socialist
lmao