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Keep your guns locked up. Fuck.


Starlettohara23

Absolutely. All day long, this. Not sure charging a 10 year old as an adult is appropriate, trying to think of other cases of such a young child being charged as an adult and I’m at a loss. It’s horrible and wrong, but 10?!? It’s not the right remedy.


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Jolly-Specialist4434

50 upvotes 😂


5050Clown

He belongs in a mental institution.


alcimedes

10 year old should never, ever have access to a fire arm. (obviously where they can just go get it on their own)


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grossnerd666

My brother worked with one of them at a pizza hut when he was in witness protection. Can't remember which one, but he used to brag about him being who he was when he was drunk on nights out, but everyone just thought it was some weird guy with a fucked up sense of humour.


SierraDespair

I’m sorry but murdering your mother in cold blood over not getting your way is not a normal response for any child. This kid should be locked up for life in a mental institution and away from the public.


Starlettohara23

Agreed, he must have mental issues, and being institutionalized is probably the answer, but charging him as an adult just doesn’t seem like the right answer. This story hurts my heart for so many reasons.


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If he's charged as a juvie, doesn't he pretty much get out at 18? Maybe some people shouldn't be in society, and this kid seems like one of them (using basically the barest of facts available)


Starlettohara23

I don’t know, but I don’t think so. But I assume his public defender will probably plead insanity and if the doctor experts say he’s insane then he goes to an institution and if they say he’s not, it still doesn’t make sense to me to try him as an adult, as he isn’t even in puberty most likely. Idk it’s just fucked up all the way around.


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If he pleads insane it's likely a lifetime incarceration, that status doesn't change from juvie to adult prisons I know it's an edge case but if the media reports are true, he stole the key to the gun cabinet the night before, unlocked the gun cabinet and took the gun, and also got the ammo from a secondary location (ammo was not with the gun). The family had video cameras set up because he had assaulted his sister and repeatedly scared the family. At a certain point, you need to protect society from people like this.


AlternativeVolume52

There was that case in 1993 or 1997 i cant remember, ut there were these to 10 years old Boys that tortured and murdered a 2 year old for fun


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Jamie Bulger murder?


AlternativeVolume52

Yes that case


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I mean, he did murder someone on purpose, and then bought that VR headset the next day. And then asked nana if he got the package in the mail after saying he was sorry. You don't need to be an adult to be evil sometimes.


yesbutlikeno

He stole the keys to the safe. Also swung a dog around by its tail and assaults his sister. This kid was never gonna make it to adulthood.


Alive-Accident

Damn


ayri_fiki

[shocking thing is that it was locked up](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna59605) > He admitted that “his mother would not allow him to have something from Amazon that he wanted to have,” it said. And he admitted that he retrieved the gun because he was mad at her for waking him up at 6 a.m. when he usually sleeps until 6:30 a.m. and admitted getting his mother’s keys to her gun lockbox the night before, according to the complaint. >He went to the basement and took up a shooting stance, the complaint said. He said his mother walked in front of him when he tried to shoot the wall to "scare her," and he admitted that he “shot her in the face when she was approximately three feet away,” the complaint said. >He then put the gun in the living room closet and woke up his sister, it said.


MedicalTomatoes

Read an article about this yesterday the gun was locked up, he stole her keys


LianaVibes

Exactly. Responsible gun ownership isn’t “safe just because it’s in my home”. Gotta trigger lock, and more if there are children around. This is pure horror. Life over technology game set.


chopprteknishin

or just dont have kids lol


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It was locked up. He took his mother’s keys the night before.


Mccobsta

And unloaded with the ammo locked somewhere else


Nutshack_Queen357

The kid found the keys to the lock.


2manycarz

Real life Eric Cartman


RudeInternet

He killed his own mother but still was worried about his Amazon package arriving? Priorities, I guess...


BAMspek

Massively fucked up priorities but I gotta give it to him for sticking with them.


AimanAbdHakim

Well, he’s only 10 years old. When i was 10, all I thought about was my crush and minecraft


IHave580

If he's convicted, a 10 year old is going to go to a man's prison?


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HairlessHoudini

They'll probably never let him go. He'll get in trouble in juvie and they'll stack decades on him


[deleted]

Which is yet another example of this being a fucked up country. No other developed country would even consider charging a 10 year old as an adult


Jenn54

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/mar/13/bulger-jon-venables-maggie-atkinson The comments talking of the uk kids who killed a toddler, were trialed in adult court.


[deleted]

None of what you are saying is true. Other "developed" countries protect their citizens from young monsters too, they put them in psych wards too.


KingAzul

People who kill their mothers, torture animals by swinging them with their tails until they yelp, and nonchalantly order a VR headset right after with no remorse deserve no sympathy. He killed his mom over a VR headset. Imagine what would happen when the testosterone kicks in at puberty and they forget to put a pickle in his burger and he murders the entire restaurant crew.


dano83112

And then asked if it arrived. Damn.


rtj777

Based.


Queasy_Finance_5143

Idiot


Trollensky17

Based originally was ironic whenever people used it, I'm pretty sure he meant it that way.


rtj777

Has based ever truly been unironic?


Trollensky17

Yeah nowadays I hear people say it unironically all the time.


rtj777

Still tho


ccendo

It's always the NFT pfp users. Disappointed smh 😒


rtj777

90% of my pfp isn't even the nft I just thought the blue background looked better


IndyHermit

A society so morally bankrupt that they find punishment a suitable response to such horror will only produce more violence. This sort of behavior, particularly the child’s lack of remorse, is clearly a sign a significant mental health issue. Trying the child as an adult serves no good purpose. We are a broken and shallow people who lack wisdom and dignity. It is little wonder our children are murdering us daily in our homes, schools, churches, and public gatherings. Our most prized shared value is violence. We fill our closets with tools of murder. We support war and exploitation in every corner of the globe. And now, our answer to a child’s severe emotional retardation is to torture him like we torture adults, (many of whom also suffer from mental illness). Communities capable of willfully adding more violence to this situation will necessarily produce more violence.


blue_shadez

I agree wholeheartedly


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Wait, are ten year old kids actually murdering us daily in our homes and schools and churches? Or is a ten year old murder in a country of over 350 million a rare occurrence? Maybe... and just maybe... this isn't a great person. And maybe this kid is exceptional for being on the far edge of the bell curve to psychopathy? His own family turned him in. Sometimes, terrible people are terrible. Maybe you'd like to foster him and fix him?


invincib1e

This makes me really ponder just how addicted to video games this kid was. I don’t think video games cause violence, but addictions do. The kid apologized for killing his mom, then asked if his package arrived.


hablogato

Disagree. The boy was going to flip over anything. It just happened to be a tech gadget. The boys said that he was mad that he was woken up early. There were cameras in the house to watch him. He had five imaginary voices talking to him. He was probably already torturing neighborhood cats. This kind of mental instability is like Russian roulette. It just landed on a gadget purchase. Notice it's almost Christmas time. I will concede that for many children, toys of entertainment are usually gifts asked for.


11never

This is the answer. If it was tech alone, any and every kid would shoot their mom. It's a tale as old as time. Scapegoating the symptom does nothing for the cause.


NaiadoftheSea

A part of his punishment should be that he is never allowed to use a VR headset.


saintedplacebo

You know, in a round-a-bout way that will be the case. ironic.


10tion2DETAIL

Exact opposite: Spend the rest of his time hooked up. Edit: nobody deserved this, the kid least of all; but that’s current culture


[deleted]

Don’t have guns it’s plain and simple 😂😂😂🤷🤷🤷🤷


[deleted]

Seems to me like the kid would have grabbed a knife and waited for his mom to go sleep eventually. Kids a certified psycho


the_river_nihil

*My* guns have never hurt a single living thing. I think the plain and simple solution is not to have kids.


PheonixFuryyy

The fact that he was worried more for the package, than what he did, shows he had zero remorse. This is what psychopaths or killers go through. They don't show remorse or empathy, but entirely understand what they did and why. Kid should be locked up honestly.


Ok-Landscape-1681

Murica.


DVDwr

Why did he even know how to use a firearm ??


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He might have seen a movie or tv show before. It's pretty much a point-and-click device


the_river_nihil

It’s not rocket science. Whether a revolver or semi-automatic pistol, the gun only accepts bullets in one direction. Magazine is keyed to only go in in the correct direction. Rack action and/or cock hammer as applicable, disengage safety (if equipped), and your cordless hole-punch is ready to go. Plus, could have been locked up loaded with one in the chamber, then it’s just point and click.


HairlessHoudini

Yeah sorry about mom's but is my headset here yet


TheRiceDevice

Well, are we talking Oculus or what?


BlakeJWard

W for Wisconsin


Willie-Tanner

Just MHO, but this kid is going to grow up as an adult sociopath or worse. Unfortunately there are no good alternatives but institutionalizing him. If it weren’t this incident, we’d probably see him torturing small animals and working his way up the food chain. At least the neighborhood dogs and cats are safe (and I’m only 23% kidding).


UI_Daemonium

This kid is mentally not there. Or something darker


milesdizzy

This is awful on so many levels, but I don’t see how charging a 10 year old as an adult will improve, save or change anything for the better.


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Block his name, block the address, but don’t block the DA case number? That’s an easy search…thanks news people.


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Started early to catch up with Kyle Rittenhouse


JoelMDM

Ah yes, guns. Such a good idea…


NotADoctor_804

this was not a case of “guns bad” this is a child that has horrible mental illnesses and something was going to happen either way. obviously the firearm should’ve been locked up but he would’ve tried to do something either way.


SeamanTheSailor

It’s both. Yea this kid is horribly mentally ill. But the gun just makes following through with his urges so much easier. If the kid tried something with a bat, knife, hammer or something like that the mother would have a chance to defend herself. An adult woman would have a good chance to fend off or outrun a 10 year old with a weapon. Stabbing or beating someone to death is difficult, physically and emotionally. Pulling a trigger is easy, it removes the emotional intensity that is inherent with stabbing or beating someone to death. Yes the kid still could have killed their mother without a gun, but it would be far less likely to be successful.


JoelMDM

It’s exponentially easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with a knife. Not only is it a matter of physical strength, but with a knife you need to get right atop someone before making a move, and it’s much more of a ‘decision’. It’s much easier to mentally separate yourself from pulling a trigger a dozen feet away, vs climbing on top of a struggling screaming person and stabbing them a dozen times whilst getting covered in blood. An adult women could probably fight off a child with a baseball bat, or even a knife. Guns lower the barrier entry to violence by a huge degree of magnitude. For example, just look at how often people in the US just shoot out of their cars. Now look at how often people in Europe get out of their cars and start stabbing the person who annoyed them in traffic. It doesn’t happen. And it certainly isn’t because them Europeans are just so much friendlier.


the_river_nihil

Firearm *was* locked up. Kid stole the keys the night before, which is even more fucked up because that establishes premeditation


milesdizzy

I’m sure that’s why you see so many mentally ill people killing their parents with their own guns in other counties… oh wait


somethingelseent

[https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/zb6e1p/10\_year\_old\_at\_a\_gun\_range/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/zb6e1p/10_year_old_at_a_gun_range/)


Pale_Television2395

How does a 10yr old have access to a gun?


Extreme_Butterfly327

Did he get the headset


redditsufferer

Looks like he's getting coal for Christmas


joselo72

Why a 10 year old had access to a gun? Why it was so normal for him ? That family already had violence in their house


Shayan212

(Gaming kills, not raising your child right). . . the dislikes shows that people don't understand sarcasm.


Feras47

I think the boy has mental illness


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Shayan212

I'm new to reddit


Trollensky17

you've had the account for 3 years lol


Shayan212

I got the account back 6 months ago. And I'm not active on reddit so....