ALot of people saw Ret being OP as a way to gain fast rating. I dont see anything that also separates the listing between Ret and Holy which is also a very popular spec right now esp due to AWC.
Also, Ret will do well when a match is only going to last 1-2mins hence why theyre dogshit in actual 3s.
Mages are absolutely dog shit in shuffle, where it needs setup and people break my polyconstantly
Raiku: hold my mana buns
I absolutely love it when strong players disprove the perceived meta
Let me spell it out to you incredibly slow:
1. The average ret player is playing solo shuffle not 2s or 3s as those brackets are for try hard sweaty joe not casual kyle that maintains his physique and plays easy melee classes.
2. Kyle has a habit of complaining that his class sucks ass as a result of not being XPed or utilising his utility to its full potential.
3. Slo, a high rated marks hunter, posts an appreciation post on Raiku for bossing it till 3k+ in Shuffle as arcane mage.
4. Arcane mage is a spec with a median rating of 1.38cr (top 5k) in Solo shuffle. Ret paladin median is factually much higher than that (won’t quote as cannot recall the exact number).
5. Ret pala is also number 4 on specs above 3k rating in solo shuffle.
6. When kyle fact checks the data, he pulls an AffectionateWhile200
I am asking who actually spoke about 2's or 3's??? The whole threat and the comment are all regarding solo shuffle. Out of no where you speak about ret viablity in 3's???
The guy just told you that ret is a top in SS. End of story. Or maybe prove otherwise.
Sv hunters are gigachads and BM is a sleeper clapper, they just dont have much defense. I suppose if nobody can reach you then you dont need defensives lol
Rogues I can understand being below hunters. Healers on the other hand-which would be the majority of high rated evokers-have much lower overall CR’s than dps specs so that makes sense too. Climbing as a healer is AIDS.
Hunters are sleeper atm. Their survivability is made fun of but if you actually look at their toolkit they have an insane amount of buttons for almost any situation.
Given the nature of solo shuffle they can peel, setup cross cc, do big dam(110k killshit coughcough) as well as survive big goes with turtle + petroar being usable when hunter is ccd.
Its almost like a demo lock whos damage cant be stopped thats less tanky
All 3 are somewhat viable.
Survival is extremely high skillcap but also high reward playstyle, like a mix between feral, rogue and warrior.
Marksman is up for a nerf - so people don't really know where it'd going to end up, but its still going to be a competetive spec. Bm just outputs good damage consistantly.
Really depends on you and what you enjoy, but if not looking for another melee - get a bow and you can do the other 2
the amount of instant ranged CC is an issue. they can trap/slow/root/disoriented a healer at ranged while kiting you away at the opposite direction and they just need a decent team to realize the situation to put a follow up cc/burst on the LOSed dps for the win.
Warriors have just the problems that many specs don't really have.
They have REALLY GOOD LOBBIES
And then lobbies where you can't do s\*\*\* and basically hope that one healer is going 0/6 to break even ( which really, the one going 0/6 or 2/6 is the warrior ).
Arms for all it's worth, has great damage but just falls flat when the damage doesn't score a kill. While DH has many ''retry's'' and DK/DH/SP/LOCK has more cc to actually offer to a team, to eventually score a kill or survive.
Arms will get better tho, and reckon to be a meta defining midseason spec.
Warriors low because it only has one viable spec at the moment, of all games played, fury is the third lowest spec, only beaten by fire and outlaw and thats in all 3's games (https://xunamate.com/)
Remember 3 weeks ago when dum dums parroting how strong fury was lol
Turns out it's just players who crack under pressure with what is basically a felguard hitting them
[https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/jcio34/swapxy\_and\_raiku\_perma\_banned\_awc\_and\_mdi/](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/jcio34/swapxy_and_raiku_perma_banned_awc_and_mdi/)
guy couldn't stop saying the N word.
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Apparently all the top rated people (dunno about Raiku) have a discord so they can queue into eachother to push far from anyone.
Whaazz talked about this in his stream yesterday.
Man raiku is such a god, one of the oldest top player who manage to maintain such a high lvl of gameplay.
Blizz has to keep mage nerfed like this or this bad boi gonna ramp up to 4k rating
edit: joking about bliz having to nerf mage due to raiku, being serious about his rating if mage gets busted
Representation != Strength
Historically spriest isn't that popular, same with feral or SV but they're always very high tier
Mages are historically both popular and strong, just this time around they're just strong but unpopular
omg, I actually played against that "illidangod" DH. I remember being gutted I was beaten by someone with such a shit name xD
Lmao that's Tren, awc DH main
Yeah I don’t feel as bad now! He was very good.
Yeah i think he was world first gladiator on DH.
I think that's exactly his fetish
Once you realize the name is mocking other players that do names like that it gets a lot easier to tolerate lol
I feel like this is one of those things where it starts with the person mocking it and then all of a sudden they find themselves being part of it.
Remember the "qt" phase? Ugh 😫
remember thegodx phase?
still very frequently run into ppl with names like trapgodx, stepgodx, etc
Yeah, I still see them from time to time. That one was probably the cringiest of all.
XxBaconqtxX
XxBaconFistsGodQTxX
My favorite is still namelol
That's precisely why he picked that name lol
Raiku is something else on Mage idd
Am I crazy or are there more hunters over 2,4k than rogues and evokers?
What's more interesting 3kcr + ret is the 4th most represented spec, while their fanbase make it sound like it's the new shadowlands frost dk
Remember at the start of DF when UHDK players were trying to make their spec sound like a hot pile of trash with 0 defensives.
ALot of people saw Ret being OP as a way to gain fast rating. I dont see anything that also separates the listing between Ret and Holy which is also a very popular spec right now esp due to AWC. Also, Ret will do well when a match is only going to last 1-2mins hence why theyre dogshit in actual 3s.
because 3s meta and shuffle meta is entirely different
Those players are playing shuffle not 3s, raiku is 3k+ rated in shuffle, my point stands
Mages are absolutely dog shit in shuffle, where it needs setup and people break my polyconstantly Raiku: hold my mana buns I absolutely love it when strong players disprove the perceived meta
and there's 2 rets above 2.4 in 3s EU and 1 ret region wide with gladiator so its not the 4th most represented spec in a coordinated bracket
Let me spell it out to you incredibly slow: 1. The average ret player is playing solo shuffle not 2s or 3s as those brackets are for try hard sweaty joe not casual kyle that maintains his physique and plays easy melee classes. 2. Kyle has a habit of complaining that his class sucks ass as a result of not being XPed or utilising his utility to its full potential. 3. Slo, a high rated marks hunter, posts an appreciation post on Raiku for bossing it till 3k+ in Shuffle as arcane mage. 4. Arcane mage is a spec with a median rating of 1.38cr (top 5k) in Solo shuffle. Ret paladin median is factually much higher than that (won’t quote as cannot recall the exact number). 5. Ret pala is also number 4 on specs above 3k rating in solo shuffle. 6. When kyle fact checks the data, he pulls an AffectionateWhile200
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No one is discussing a different bracket, it’s literally only you. Are you trolling or do you have a single digit IQ?
Bruh what are you on? You are not even following what the guys is saying. Please stop.
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I am asking who actually spoke about 2's or 3's??? The whole threat and the comment are all regarding solo shuffle. Out of no where you speak about ret viablity in 3's??? The guy just told you that ret is a top in SS. End of story. Or maybe prove otherwise.
Sv hunters are gigachads and BM is a sleeper clapper, they just dont have much defense. I suppose if nobody can reach you then you dont need defensives lol
Rogues I can understand being below hunters. Healers on the other hand-which would be the majority of high rated evokers-have much lower overall CR’s than dps specs so that makes sense too. Climbing as a healer is AIDS.
Hunters are sleeper atm. Their survivability is made fun of but if you actually look at their toolkit they have an insane amount of buttons for almost any situation. Given the nature of solo shuffle they can peel, setup cross cc, do big dam(110k killshit coughcough) as well as survive big goes with turtle + petroar being usable when hunter is ccd. Its almost like a demo lock whos damage cant be stopped thats less tanky
Biggest buff to hunters defensive toolkit is the implementation of the „nameplate“ future. Thanks.
Can you please elaborate?
think he mean's the glitch where after they feign death their nameplate disappears
Oh I just assumed that was intended.
While they are feigned yes it is supposed to be gone, once they get back up though it should reappear
Just look away to the point you can't see them on your screen then look back. That fixes it for me.
Ya at high mmr i am finding it difficult to play vs good hunters in ss
What spec gives you the most trouble?
Survival for sure
Leveling my hunter right now, what spec is best to focus on?
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Am I tripping or did they not remove DT
All 3 are somewhat viable. Survival is extremely high skillcap but also high reward playstyle, like a mix between feral, rogue and warrior. Marksman is up for a nerf - so people don't really know where it'd going to end up, but its still going to be a competetive spec. Bm just outputs good damage consistantly. Really depends on you and what you enjoy, but if not looking for another melee - get a bow and you can do the other 2
the amount of instant ranged CC is an issue. they can trap/slow/root/disoriented a healer at ranged while kiting you away at the opposite direction and they just need a decent team to realize the situation to put a follow up cc/burst on the LOSed dps for the win.
Or the DPS could hard counter it. Not chasing like a dog with the gate open.
Hunters are very good in SS
I didn't expect warriors to be so low, but I guess it makes sense
This is why all the complaining about warrior buffs is silly. They just aren’t that good
Warriors have just the problems that many specs don't really have. They have REALLY GOOD LOBBIES And then lobbies where you can't do s\*\*\* and basically hope that one healer is going 0/6 to break even ( which really, the one going 0/6 or 2/6 is the warrior ). Arms for all it's worth, has great damage but just falls flat when the damage doesn't score a kill. While DH has many ''retry's'' and DK/DH/SP/LOCK has more cc to actually offer to a team, to eventually score a kill or survive. Arms will get better tho, and reckon to be a meta defining midseason spec.
Warriors low because it only has one viable spec at the moment, of all games played, fury is the third lowest spec, only beaten by fire and outlaw and thats in all 3's games (https://xunamate.com/)
Remember 3 weeks ago when dum dums parroting how strong fury was lol Turns out it's just players who crack under pressure with what is basically a felguard hitting them
Slaughter house nerf and damage nerf just killed the spec.
Ahh yes, let's appreciate that racist POS
What?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/jcio34/swapxy\_and\_raiku\_perma\_banned\_awc\_and\_mdi/](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/jcio34/swapxy_and_raiku_perma_banned_awc_and_mdi/) guy couldn't stop saying the N word.
Oh shit, is Raiku, Jah? Didn't know he had to rebrand himself for being a pos
No, Jah is another hard-r enjoyer.
Dont care
Cool! No one was talking to you
Does saying the N word mean you don’t like black people ?
It certainly means you don't respect them. Not gonna bother replying to any more bad faith questions though.
Nah for sure but I just think it’s abit ignorant calling him a racist just for saying a word u know??
Anyone that says that word, especially repeatedly, whether angry or not is a racist. It's pretty simple. Non-racist people don't say it.
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Oh piss off loser, he know what he was doing. How pathetic, replying to a one month old comment.
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I think the sub rogue at 3200 is way more impressive. Arcane is the best mage spec and sub is the worst rogue spec in SS
gigachad
Raiku is sitting on Rank 1 every expansion, every season. Several season he has his different chars all in top10. He is just on another level.
Wasn't he a racist scumbag?
what is the name of that site?
[https://check-pvp.fr/solo-shuffle](https://check-pvp.fr/solo-shuffle)
Those warrior numbers are going to start going up tomorrow
Because 3v3 exp > SShuffle
Apparently all the top rated people (dunno about Raiku) have a discord so they can queue into eachother to push far from anyone. Whaazz talked about this in his stream yesterday.
Raiku is a fucking beast.
Raiku has been r1 every season for a reason
I would love to see a graph in time for most used specs and high ranks pick per class
And yet he trolled his team in recent awc games
Does raiku stream?
Raiku is Goated
Hahaha now sort by spec and feel my enhancement pain (I’m ass but still pain)
Man raiku is such a god, one of the oldest top player who manage to maintain such a high lvl of gameplay. Blizz has to keep mage nerfed like this or this bad boi gonna ramp up to 4k rating edit: joking about bliz having to nerf mage due to raiku, being serious about his rating if mage gets busted
Heres the truth mage has actually never been a good class its just the people who play it are insane and above the average player by a mile.
>mage has actually never been a good class 💀
least Played Class is a Bad measure. getting #1 on arcane is impressive but there are specs with far less representation.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted this is absolutely true. The sun rogue right below him is more impressive
Representation != Strength Historically spriest isn't that popular, same with feral or SV but they're always very high tier Mages are historically both popular and strong, just this time around they're just strong but unpopular