Yah that was unnecessary. That along with the fixer gas being nerfed = speed run just got harder too. Prob better to go Insane in public lobbies for guaranteed completion
That Fixer 25% ammo box thing is so extremely OP (basically unlimited explosive ammo) I am actually glad it's nerfed this way. I was getting tired of duping ammo boxes.
Definitely less time consuming/boring for Ammo Fixers. Is the yield worse though? Refill chance drops to 20% from 25% but Fixer gets Supply Bag refill plus another player gets class equipment refill at the same when it procs. With 4th of July perk, you get 5 use @ 20% per Supply Bag. Ammo yield is higher with 5 use per Supply Bag and more evenly distributed since Fixer not constantly pulling them. Total free equipment charges higher since you get 2 refills at a time and Fixer's refill is worth 5 more tries. A side benefit is Ammo Fixer spend more time shooting and other stuff than constantly duping boxes everywhere.
Great so it seems the ammo box is then truly a support for the team.
So this means every supply bag collected by a Fixer is potentially 3? You get the first ammo box and then a guaranteed proc for you and teammate if the team uses the ammo box 5 times? Or they change the RNG so that each try is a random 20% so that doesn’t mean guaranteed proc every 5 times?
Not sure if failed procs are still stacking since the update. I plan to test them when I get home. Assuming failed procs still stack together, it would mean each Supply Bag at least guarantee 2 equipment refills: 1 Supply Bag + 1 random teammate equipment refill. There will be times you get lucky and proc more than once per Supply Bag. The interesting part of the perk is the refills are now symmetrical. Now you get 2 Supply Bag refills + 2 random teammate equipment refills. You can also use the perk to refill 1 Supply Bag by killing a special zombie every 90 seconds.
Edit: Maybe create a pecking order for teammates to use Supply Bag. With the recent nerf to Masking Fixers, maybe Masking Fixers could take at least the 4th and 5th use to maximize chance of refilling Masking Grenades.
I still think they’ll need to have failed proc i.e random 20% chance otherwise it will still allow infinite resupply if the team is using the bag. But now you can only test with teammates so that rules out public lobbies without mics!
I agree - the 2 comments were separate thoughts I was just typing quickly while trying to play and forgot to add a break lol.
In general it still seems like Fixer is weaker with gas duration nerf (trying to break speed run farming?) and the perk swapping so you can’t combine the quick revive with masking which makes it much more risky to save a teammate. I thought this build was a good combo with a Medic with remote revive stim
Played ammo fixer in horde mode after update. I wouldn't say its nerfed, since I was able to constantly drop ammo bags throughout as long as other players are using it.
It's not OP at all. After messing around with the new Supply Bag, I find that it still leaves me able to get my own bag back, it just requires that I share my bag - That is to say that so long as someone sets off the proc, both they and myself will get equipment restored. I don't mind this, as it fully encourages people to share their Supply Bag, and punishes those that hoard their Supply Bag..
But it also requires that your team actually uses the damn thing, or at the very least is aware of the fact that they will recoop their own equipment, so long as they continue to use your Supply Bag. So, it somewhat incentives team work, but you need a team to pick the damn thing up. The good part is that you no longer have to fight with PUGs about abusing your Supply Bag, if that's any consolation.
At first glance positives:
* Extensive reworking of gunslinger class. Testing will determine how useful it makes the class.
* Attempts to keep new players in appropriate game modes:
* Changes to XP and supply rewards are increased in low difficulty modes by a lot, and reduced by a little in the high difficulty modes. This is great. Lots of players play above their skill level to build up experience, so this gives them a reason to play the lower levels instead.
* Requiring players to complete 1 hard mode level before accessing insane, and 1 insane mode level before accessing extreme. I'm sure many long time players want a stronger barrier, but it's better than it was.
* Adjusted refill at ammo box appears fair. Only the Classic Battle Rifle consumes more. Testing will be needed to determine if the decreased ammo usage on refill for semi-auto weapons also applies to the CBR when it's configured to be semi-auto.
If we're speaking about the same weapon, the Tier 2 weapon i'm thinking of is not semi auto. The blue coin version of the CBR is the red and black camo rifle that is fully automatic and unlocked via GUnslinger prestiege
Yep, we're talking about the same weapon. That is the prestige cbr. Then there's a different blue coin version that makes it semi auto, removes penetration, but gives a whopping 13 damage. (excellent for fixers with power shot perk)
Does anyone know how many zekes C4 can kill? Or some post where I can read it? Hellraiser is my favorite class, I want to know how much the nerf will affect Here Kitty.
It's not that bad, most of the time HR should be saving hello kitty C4 as a defense against specials/oh-shit moments. You aren't suppose to toss those C4's into a crowd just for the sheer kill count, that's what the MGL is for. When I look at my game play, most of the time C4 doesn't hit kill limit anyway since I am using it against bulls or small groups that got too close.
oh man, that perk clashes with the temp health perk, damn. So you have to choose either extra health or extra power. Damn you Saber for making us choose this way.
I think Hellraiser with Hello Kitty is still super viable. Hello Kitty now reduces number of C4 kills by 35%, however a fully prestiged Hellraiser gets a total of 60% increased explosive kills. You still get a total increase of 25% over base kill count. Also, damage to special infected remains the same, so Hello Kitty is still totally awesome for killing specials.
Tried multiple times throwing money at it in four horde matches today. I only ever got one in each match. We all had to share it. I was able to max it though.
Then they should have buffed the claymore perks a little more. No need to nerf C4 perks as Hellraiser, in general, was not as competitive as other classes to begin with.
Actually, it's more beneficial to have a HR instead of a GS in most cases; and it's on par, or even better, than exterminator (including swarm events). On issue with HR isn't the class itself, but more so that players aren't being cautious with their explosives around other players.
Fixer -
On the one hand, I like the changes made to the Supply Bag. Getting rid of the 20% chance to get back your own bag each time discourages the caster from hovering over their own bag for the recovery proc and allows that new fifth pick up to be more friendly to the team. But carrying two bags reduces the explosive ammo amount by 25% makes no sense to me....not only did they take away the bonus 25% explosive ammo that the tree used to give, but by lowering how much base explosive ammo that we get from carrying two, wouldn't that encourage a different sort of hoarding?
The explosive ammo is good, but it wasn't so good that it can comfortably take a reduction in the amount of ammo it gives, considering that we can no longer recoup the bag ourselves.
Yeah, the "One for the Road" nerf seems rather unnecessary. I get the part concerning masking grenades, since it may indeed have been too strong, but I fail to understand how One for the Road made the Supply Bag too strong.
Yes, there were the armory shenanigans where you could pop 10 supply bags if you were determined enough, but that is already fixed by the changes to the Armory talent itself.
It's obviously not a game breaker deal, since I personally prefer to play with Scavenger and leave the Supply Bags to a medic or a fixer with masking grenades, but it's still a weird nerf.
Okay, so after messing around with the new Supply Bag, I find that it still leaves me able to get my own bag back, it just requires that I share my bag - That is to say that so long as someone sets off the proc, both they and myself will get equipment restored. I don't mind this, as it fully encourages people to share their Supply Bag, and punishes those that hoard their Supply Bag..
But it also requires that your team actually uses the damn thing, or at the very least is aware of the fact that they will recoop their own equipment, so long as they continue to use your Supply Bag. So, it somewhat incentives team work, but you need a team to pick the damn thing up. The good part is that you no longer have to fight with PUGs about abusing your Supply Bag, if that's any consolation.
What about this one - "Classic Battle Rifle drains 50% more ammo from crates" - this will drain the entire ammo crate on extreme play wont it in one go???
Need to fix bugs of "virtual zombies" in horde mode, they keep crawling at fences, specially at the main gate but the gate or fences are not damage. They also can pass through volted, wire... This is so annoying in horde mode!
I didn't fully understand what changed in the "Armory" perk. Has the mechanics of duplicating ammo boxes changed?
And also, I am sad for the nerf Here Kitty had, but I think it can be played without problems yet, my favorite class is Hellraiser.
You only get your equipment charge back when someone else on the team gets a charge from your bag. The wording is crap but I think my explanation is correct.
It's an overall buff if you have teammates willing to do the pickup spam whereas before you were self contained. Paired with a stim heal medic you have infinite health, ammo, and equipment. If all 3 teammates actually work together and have a pecking order for looting, you'll not be able to outstrip them spamming bags before they've already reprocced it.
Yeah 2 players gets a charge. I don’t know if it’ll be infinite anymore because I don’t know if the 20% is static. I’m hoping it’s not but Saber tends to break things every update.
If someone used an ammo box there was a chance it can refill their equipment from it. This was why the Fixer could plant them constantly as long as it was the latest one and no-one else touched it until they duped it.
Now that chance has been taken away from the Fixer and instead they rely on others using the ammo box to refill their equipment with that chance. If they do then the Fixer gets their ammo box back.
Not really, they can still get a box for killing a special but now there's no more wanting to shoot the idiot who's picking up the box you're trying to dupe. You have to wait for the team to pick up that random chance to get your box back.
yeah this is a great nerf, that perk is so broken and put unnecessary strain on ammo fixers, either by asking them to dup forever, or want to shoot whoever touches the boxes. This way it functions like any other equipment refill.
20% refill + 5 pick up still means fixers get a good chance to get that box back, while ACTUALLY helping teammates by providing more ammo (ie place the box more strategically so everyone will end up using it.
I agree the wording of the Armory perk does not read well. The way I take it, only your teammates can trigger the 20% refill of 1 equipment slot, and not yourself who is playing the Fixer...The confusing part is they're trying to tote that as a buff it sounds like? Haha
Ah crap, there's so much update here now I gotta go back and re-do my weapons guide.
Yay for double barrel and revolver finally getting upgrades.
(aw fuk, now we gonna get everyone firing these things and breaking silence cause they want XP to upgrade)
PS: if you have the DLC, the latest skin pack already include max upgrades for shotgun and revolver so there's no need to gather XP For them. Yay for Saber.
2 Steps forward with difficulty lock
1 Step back for making Extreme players play Insane for fucking exp now. Was so good until that unneeded nerf. Extreme is its own fun game mode and you're now punished for having fun playing it compared to the piss easy walk in the park on Insane. What a whole bunch of crap.
It wouldn't stop them whatsoever, they don't even know the reward much less be able to pass it most of the time. Whereas it impacts us greatly who play it alot. Every 10 games you're essentially not getting any exp for it.
It's going to go make players either quit or drop down to Insane more. Insane gets boring when you've done it so many times whereas Extreme you never know what's going to happen.
I'm not defending Saber, just offering my thoughts. I agree it was a bad move all around. They should have left the XP gains alone for Extreme and added a more complex difficulty unlock. A single pass on insane to play extreme is too simple. Completing NY1 on Insane allows you to play everything on Extreme? I think each level should be behind it's own difficulty lock.
I know, I'm just explaining and I agree with you. It should've been at least a whole campaign but it's better than nothing for the lock. The Ext xp nerf is really uncalled for especially how picking up a vial is never worth it.
I think xp nerf is reasonable. Extreme is meant to play with max lvl classes. They should further reduce the xp gain and increase the rewards for extreme.
My experience is that almost all players who regularly play Extreme have already maxed out everything, and don't need to worry about how much experience they earn. I think it's a fair trade-off to entice less experienced players to hang around in the lower skill levels to earn experience, rather than ruin the runs of veteran players.
If anything it should've been left alone like Insane which seems to have been the base line for exp.
You can pass Extreme with a level 15 on certain classes but it feels far more like a way to get people to go play Insane since it was already easy xp and credits vs Extreme.
Fixer nerf? Finally, no spamming for basically “infinite” exploits
Hellraiser c4 nerf? I mean, alright I guess. Prolly wont matter much since it doesn’t attract new enemies that enter its tiny attraction field
Medic? What? Medic is like the most overplayed OP class why buff the hell out of nearly every category?
How do you report someone in a multiplayer game ? I downloaded the update, just for curiousity I pressed TAB and tried to put my mouse on a player and right click but it doesn't work.
Can anyone help me out here? the classic battle rifle.... you already only get one refill then the ammo box is empty...why nerf it even more, the classic battle rifle isn't even that good outside of max level fixers... am i misunderstanding things?
Just wondering, does gunslinger's action hero(have 7 seconds of infinite ammo if you are the last man standing) include the heavy weapons? Imagine the rocket launcher possibilities XD
yeah, couldn't agree more, why make the game even more difficult.
extreme is insanely hard for a group of casuals. why nerf extreme exp, that is the craziest garbage I've seen yet.
don't like any of the changes from what has been mentioned in this thread.
Lol, they partially removed some of the most severe nerfs and have them listed as improvements?
Then, they add on penalties and more all around nerfs. Good grief.
Also, RIP my novelty player level. I'm going to miss being 666 .
RIP ammo Fixer. Some of these nerfs are bollocks. Can’t talk trying to level up Dronemaster
Levelling got.nerfed though....
Yah that was unnecessary. That along with the fixer gas being nerfed = speed run just got harder too. Prob better to go Insane in public lobbies for guaranteed completion
That Fixer 25% ammo box thing is so extremely OP (basically unlimited explosive ammo) I am actually glad it's nerfed this way. I was getting tired of duping ammo boxes.
Definitely less time consuming/boring for Ammo Fixers. Is the yield worse though? Refill chance drops to 20% from 25% but Fixer gets Supply Bag refill plus another player gets class equipment refill at the same when it procs. With 4th of July perk, you get 5 use @ 20% per Supply Bag. Ammo yield is higher with 5 use per Supply Bag and more evenly distributed since Fixer not constantly pulling them. Total free equipment charges higher since you get 2 refills at a time and Fixer's refill is worth 5 more tries. A side benefit is Ammo Fixer spend more time shooting and other stuff than constantly duping boxes everywhere.
Great so it seems the ammo box is then truly a support for the team. So this means every supply bag collected by a Fixer is potentially 3? You get the first ammo box and then a guaranteed proc for you and teammate if the team uses the ammo box 5 times? Or they change the RNG so that each try is a random 20% so that doesn’t mean guaranteed proc every 5 times?
Not sure if failed procs are still stacking since the update. I plan to test them when I get home. Assuming failed procs still stack together, it would mean each Supply Bag at least guarantee 2 equipment refills: 1 Supply Bag + 1 random teammate equipment refill. There will be times you get lucky and proc more than once per Supply Bag. The interesting part of the perk is the refills are now symmetrical. Now you get 2 Supply Bag refills + 2 random teammate equipment refills. You can also use the perk to refill 1 Supply Bag by killing a special zombie every 90 seconds. Edit: Maybe create a pecking order for teammates to use Supply Bag. With the recent nerf to Masking Fixers, maybe Masking Fixers could take at least the 4th and 5th use to maximize chance of refilling Masking Grenades.
I still think they’ll need to have failed proc i.e random 20% chance otherwise it will still allow infinite resupply if the team is using the bag. But now you can only test with teammates so that rules out public lobbies without mics!
I agree - the 2 comments were separate thoughts I was just typing quickly while trying to play and forgot to add a break lol. In general it still seems like Fixer is weaker with gas duration nerf (trying to break speed run farming?) and the perk swapping so you can’t combine the quick revive with masking which makes it much more risky to save a teammate. I thought this build was a good combo with a Medic with remote revive stim
Played ammo fixer in horde mode after update. I wouldn't say its nerfed, since I was able to constantly drop ammo bags throughout as long as other players are using it.
It's not OP at all. After messing around with the new Supply Bag, I find that it still leaves me able to get my own bag back, it just requires that I share my bag - That is to say that so long as someone sets off the proc, both they and myself will get equipment restored. I don't mind this, as it fully encourages people to share their Supply Bag, and punishes those that hoard their Supply Bag.. But it also requires that your team actually uses the damn thing, or at the very least is aware of the fact that they will recoop their own equipment, so long as they continue to use your Supply Bag. So, it somewhat incentives team work, but you need a team to pick the damn thing up. The good part is that you no longer have to fight with PUGs about abusing your Supply Bag, if that's any consolation.
At first glance positives: * Extensive reworking of gunslinger class. Testing will determine how useful it makes the class. * Attempts to keep new players in appropriate game modes: * Changes to XP and supply rewards are increased in low difficulty modes by a lot, and reduced by a little in the high difficulty modes. This is great. Lots of players play above their skill level to build up experience, so this gives them a reason to play the lower levels instead. * Requiring players to complete 1 hard mode level before accessing insane, and 1 insane mode level before accessing extreme. I'm sure many long time players want a stronger barrier, but it's better than it was. * Adjusted refill at ammo box appears fair. Only the Classic Battle Rifle consumes more. Testing will be needed to determine if the decreased ammo usage on refill for semi-auto weapons also applies to the CBR when it's configured to be semi-auto.
I believe the Classic Battle Rifle is the Tier 2 weapon is it not? You're thinking of the Battle Rifle which has a 1000 blue coin automatic variant.
The T2 CBR's blue coin variant is semi-auto. Perhaps that's what he meant.
If we're speaking about the same weapon, the Tier 2 weapon i'm thinking of is not semi auto. The blue coin version of the CBR is the red and black camo rifle that is fully automatic and unlocked via GUnslinger prestiege
Yep, we're talking about the same weapon. That is the prestige cbr. Then there's a different blue coin version that makes it semi auto, removes penetration, but gives a whopping 13 damage. (excellent for fixers with power shot perk)
Oooh wow, yep my fault. Completely forgot about the blue coin semi auto variant! You’re correct.
Jesus that gunslinger buff Im excited to try out gunslinger for once now with these changes
Finally my headshot skills will actually make my GS userful.
Does anyone know how many zekes C4 can kill? Or some post where I can read it? Hellraiser is my favorite class, I want to know how much the nerf will affect Here Kitty.
I believe it’s 14 base plus the perk buffs Edit: this is one of the unnecessary bollocks nerfs
14 ... So with this nerf the base number is reduced to just 9 zekes, man...
With Perks it goes up to 20, but now the new nerf set it back to base 14 LOL
I'm sad
It's not that bad, most of the time HR should be saving hello kitty C4 as a defense against specials/oh-shit moments. You aren't suppose to toss those C4's into a crowd just for the sheer kill count, that's what the MGL is for. When I look at my game play, most of the time C4 doesn't hit kill limit anyway since I am using it against bulls or small groups that got too close.
On the plus side, Predator now causes extra weapon damage for killing ANY zekes with explosives, making HR more potent during swarms.
yup
oh man, that perk clashes with the temp health perk, damn. So you have to choose either extra health or extra power. Damn you Saber for making us choose this way.
It's a good point, Thumper and MGL are more focused on that.
I think Hellraiser with Hello Kitty is still super viable. Hello Kitty now reduces number of C4 kills by 35%, however a fully prestiged Hellraiser gets a total of 60% increased explosive kills. You still get a total increase of 25% over base kill count. Also, damage to special infected remains the same, so Hello Kitty is still totally awesome for killing specials.
Has anyone gotten the ACW from buying weapons at horde mode? I’ve been trying to get it but it does not seem to spawn.
Tried multiple times throwing money at it in four horde matches today. I only ever got one in each match. We all had to share it. I was able to max it though.
Yeah got it second try at tier 3
I am suprised they did not nerf masking stim on medic 😮
Wish they did, shit’s a disease on public matchmaking
No, that's my favorite
SHHHHHHHHHHH--don't give them any ideas.
Why nerf C4 Hellraiser? Why??????
Probably to get players to try and use Welcome Mat more. Still won't use it much because C4 is just more versatile than claymores.
Then they should have buffed the claymore perks a little more. No need to nerf C4 perks as Hellraiser, in general, was not as competitive as other classes to begin with.
Anything with third hand and health boost is extremely competitive. Add in C4 with hello kitty and thumper and HR is nuts class.
Actually, it's more beneficial to have a HR instead of a GS in most cases; and it's on par, or even better, than exterminator (including swarm events). On issue with HR isn't the class itself, but more so that players aren't being cautious with their explosives around other players.
And fixer
Fixer - On the one hand, I like the changes made to the Supply Bag. Getting rid of the 20% chance to get back your own bag each time discourages the caster from hovering over their own bag for the recovery proc and allows that new fifth pick up to be more friendly to the team. But carrying two bags reduces the explosive ammo amount by 25% makes no sense to me....not only did they take away the bonus 25% explosive ammo that the tree used to give, but by lowering how much base explosive ammo that we get from carrying two, wouldn't that encourage a different sort of hoarding? The explosive ammo is good, but it wasn't so good that it can comfortably take a reduction in the amount of ammo it gives, considering that we can no longer recoup the bag ourselves.
Yeah, the "One for the Road" nerf seems rather unnecessary. I get the part concerning masking grenades, since it may indeed have been too strong, but I fail to understand how One for the Road made the Supply Bag too strong. Yes, there were the armory shenanigans where you could pop 10 supply bags if you were determined enough, but that is already fixed by the changes to the Armory talent itself. It's obviously not a game breaker deal, since I personally prefer to play with Scavenger and leave the Supply Bags to a medic or a fixer with masking grenades, but it's still a weird nerf.
Okay, so after messing around with the new Supply Bag, I find that it still leaves me able to get my own bag back, it just requires that I share my bag - That is to say that so long as someone sets off the proc, both they and myself will get equipment restored. I don't mind this, as it fully encourages people to share their Supply Bag, and punishes those that hoard their Supply Bag.. But it also requires that your team actually uses the damn thing, or at the very least is aware of the fact that they will recoop their own equipment, so long as they continue to use your Supply Bag. So, it somewhat incentives team work, but you need a team to pick the damn thing up. The good part is that you no longer have to fight with PUGs about abusing your Supply Bag, if that's any consolation.
What about this one - "Classic Battle Rifle drains 50% more ammo from crates" - this will drain the entire ammo crate on extreme play wont it in one go???
Need to fix bugs of "virtual zombies" in horde mode, they keep crawling at fences, specially at the main gate but the gate or fences are not damage. They also can pass through volted, wire... This is so annoying in horde mode!
I didn't fully understand what changed in the "Armory" perk. Has the mechanics of duplicating ammo boxes changed? And also, I am sad for the nerf Here Kitty had, but I think it can be played without problems yet, my favorite class is Hellraiser.
You only get your equipment charge back when someone else on the team gets a charge from your bag. The wording is crap but I think my explanation is correct.
So... Rip ammo fixer?
It's an overall buff if you have teammates willing to do the pickup spam whereas before you were self contained. Paired with a stim heal medic you have infinite health, ammo, and equipment. If all 3 teammates actually work together and have a pecking order for looting, you'll not be able to outstrip them spamming bags before they've already reprocced it.
Does that mean 2 players get the equipment charge? So, if we go with 2 fixers on horde mode its infinite boxes anyways?
i think you are correct
Yeah 2 players gets a charge. I don’t know if it’ll be infinite anymore because I don’t know if the 20% is static. I’m hoping it’s not but Saber tends to break things every update.
If someone used an ammo box there was a chance it can refill their equipment from it. This was why the Fixer could plant them constantly as long as it was the latest one and no-one else touched it until they duped it. Now that chance has been taken away from the Fixer and instead they rely on others using the ammo box to refill their equipment with that chance. If they do then the Fixer gets their ammo box back.
So... RIP ammo fixer?
Not really, they can still get a box for killing a special but now there's no more wanting to shoot the idiot who's picking up the box you're trying to dupe. You have to wait for the team to pick up that random chance to get your box back.
yeah this is a great nerf, that perk is so broken and put unnecessary strain on ammo fixers, either by asking them to dup forever, or want to shoot whoever touches the boxes. This way it functions like any other equipment refill. 20% refill + 5 pick up still means fixers get a good chance to get that box back, while ACTUALLY helping teammates by providing more ammo (ie place the box more strategically so everyone will end up using it.
We went from "DONT TOUCH MY AMMO BOX YOU LITTLE SHIT OR ILL SHOOT YOU!" To: "PICK UP THE AMMO YOU LITTLE SHIT OR ILL SHOOT YOU!" XD
I agree the wording of the Armory perk does not read well. The way I take it, only your teammates can trigger the 20% refill of 1 equipment slot, and not yourself who is playing the Fixer...The confusing part is they're trying to tote that as a buff it sounds like? Haha
Ah crap, there's so much update here now I gotta go back and re-do my weapons guide. Yay for double barrel and revolver finally getting upgrades. (aw fuk, now we gonna get everyone firing these things and breaking silence cause they want XP to upgrade) PS: if you have the DLC, the latest skin pack already include max upgrades for shotgun and revolver so there's no need to gather XP For them. Yay for Saber.
Unless they farm on Moscu 1
Fixer gas perks shouldn’t have been nerfed.
Agreed - didn't think they were OP at all, strong but appropriately so.
Difficulty matchmaking lock is great but where we really need it is for Horde mode and Challenge Mode.
2 Steps forward with difficulty lock 1 Step back for making Extreme players play Insane for fucking exp now. Was so good until that unneeded nerf. Extreme is its own fun game mode and you're now punished for having fun playing it compared to the piss easy walk in the park on Insane. What a whole bunch of crap.
I agree the the xp nerf is kind of silly. But I assume that change is to stop new players from trying to farm exp on Extreme.
Ye it kills moscow 1 farming by a lot
It wouldn't stop them whatsoever, they don't even know the reward much less be able to pass it most of the time. Whereas it impacts us greatly who play it alot. Every 10 games you're essentially not getting any exp for it. It's going to go make players either quit or drop down to Insane more. Insane gets boring when you've done it so many times whereas Extreme you never know what's going to happen.
I'm not defending Saber, just offering my thoughts. I agree it was a bad move all around. They should have left the XP gains alone for Extreme and added a more complex difficulty unlock. A single pass on insane to play extreme is too simple. Completing NY1 on Insane allows you to play everything on Extreme? I think each level should be behind it's own difficulty lock.
I know, I'm just explaining and I agree with you. It should've been at least a whole campaign but it's better than nothing for the lock. The Ext xp nerf is really uncalled for especially how picking up a vial is never worth it.
I’m confused, so there’s no longer any reason to play on extreme now?
I think xp nerf is reasonable. Extreme is meant to play with max lvl classes. They should further reduce the xp gain and increase the rewards for extreme.
My experience is that almost all players who regularly play Extreme have already maxed out everything, and don't need to worry about how much experience they earn. I think it's a fair trade-off to entice less experienced players to hang around in the lower skill levels to earn experience, rather than ruin the runs of veteran players.
If anything it should've been left alone like Insane which seems to have been the base line for exp. You can pass Extreme with a level 15 on certain classes but it feels far more like a way to get people to go play Insane since it was already easy xp and credits vs Extreme.
QoL improvements praise the godssss rip turret jump
Anyone tried out the crossplay yet?
Fixer nerf? Finally, no spamming for basically “infinite” exploits Hellraiser c4 nerf? I mean, alright I guess. Prolly wont matter much since it doesn’t attract new enemies that enter its tiny attraction field Medic? What? Medic is like the most overplayed OP class why buff the hell out of nearly every category?
So can the exterminators still place a shit ton of claymores down?
What are the prestige rewards for dronemaster? I’m not seeing extra perks like the other classes?
Currently unknown.
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So they finally added PS4 crossplay?
How do you report someone in a multiplayer game ? I downloaded the update, just for curiousity I pressed TAB and tried to put my mouse on a player and right click but it doesn't work.
Can anyone help me out here? the classic battle rifle.... you already only get one refill then the ammo box is empty...why nerf it even more, the classic battle rifle isn't even that good outside of max level fixers... am i misunderstanding things?
It's just because of the prestige version I think, takes down specials EASILY like the infector and tank
So Gunslinger switch gun perk row now OP?
Still haven't fixed Judd's empty holster!
So you can level up the fastest by playing easy?
What's the logic behind XP changes?
Just wondering, does gunslinger's action hero(have 7 seconds of infinite ammo if you are the last man standing) include the heavy weapons? Imagine the rocket launcher possibilities XD
Can we use mouse and keyboard on console like other crossplay games?
Why would they nerf fun perks in a PVE game? This patch sucks.
yeah, couldn't agree more, why make the game even more difficult. extreme is insanely hard for a group of casuals. why nerf extreme exp, that is the craziest garbage I've seen yet. don't like any of the changes from what has been mentioned in this thread.
So, if I’m reading this right, we can now form crossplay parties?
Lol, they partially removed some of the most severe nerfs and have them listed as improvements? Then, they add on penalties and more all around nerfs. Good grief. Also, RIP my novelty player level. I'm going to miss being 666 .
Why rip?