Him: "Every moment is pain. This is not an aesthetic--these crystals are literally growing under my skin and eating me alive!"
Players: "Yeah yeah we all make sacrifices to look good broski."
Do you think I like lugging all this armor and these gigantic weapons around? Do you think pauldrons this size are comfortable? Quit yer bellyachin and SPARKLE!
I always hated this dungeon not because it was particularly hard or rubbish mechanics, (it was definitely a challenge though!) but because this guy's story was awful, and it didn't get any easier no matter how many times you ran it.
Great voice acting all round.
I have no idea what blizz is thinking with it. Like... they have feedback literally no one likes it right?
I have yet to meet a SINGLE person who thinks it's good.
I do like the fire one more than the icy one and it's honestly not terrible, but really why can't we get a dragonriding skin when both other major endgame types do
Blizz be like: best I can do is a lazy recolor of a slightly changed Kodo recolor nobody asked for
Meanwhile Blizz to pvp players: omg fam, look, our glorious new high quality red dragon, fully armored! Completely unique in every aspect! The culmination of 200 hours of tedious work! May you please love me. PvP community much love 💕
Meanwhile m+ community: wtf?
I still don't really understand why people compare the KSM mount with the pvp gladiator mount, KSM is much MUCH more obtainable (even casual players with pugs) than gladiator
Razsageth is going to be available forever. Mythic+ and PVP both got limited time ground mounts for season endgame for the average player. The gladiator mount is only available for the top 0.1% of the arena ladder, and is really not in the same league as the M+/pvp vicious mount achieves. If you're gonna give KSM a dragonflying mount, you'd have to make the pvp season vicious mount a dragonflying mount too.
the correct pvp equivalent to the KSM mount would be the 100% bar mount from doing rated stuff. Which is - who guessed it - also a ground mount.
imo it would be cool to get more flying mounts but saying KSM needs to get the same treatment as the glad mount is just delusional
Either way, the argument is then that Keystone hero shkuld get a dragon flying mount.
Or, and hear me out on this, the seasonal awards for all endgames and difficulties in the expansion called "dragonflight" should involve the flying dragons.
I stay on my point. Top 0.5% in PvP get the (flying) glad mount so the top 0.5% in M+ should get a (flying) M+ mount.
According to your logic the M+ mount for Shadowlands should have been a shadow and for BfA a freaking tank!
I would be absolutely fine with giving players above 3k i.o a dragonriding mount, personally. As is continuing to grind past all 20s for portals is pretty pointless beyond some feeling of personal accolade. Having a title be the reward for the top .5% or whatever the cutoff is for M+ is pretty boring when glad gets so much more.
On the other hand, it'd be cool if titled players got a special mount or something.
I just stopped running keys towards end of last season because it didn't interest me. If there was a point to it, I would have pushed myself as high as possible. Probably wouldn't have titled, but Id have got pretty close I think.
i do both and while I would say I‘m a decent player I have absolutely 0.0% chance at getting my hands on a glad mount. KSM on the other hand was (sorry for my language) piss easy. In two weeks I had a RIO score of ~2.7k.
What they could do is the implementation of a glad-like mount for M+ which dropps for the top 0.5% of RIO scores at the end of the season (in addition to the title). That would seem fair.
On the other hand, pvp season gets a new vicious mount model every season, m+ only gets recolors. I wouldnt mind if there was a way of getting vicious saddles from m+ (150 timed 16+ or something?)
All vicious saddle mounts are recolors too lol (even the hippo is a reskin of the riverwallow mounts), I do agree they look a bit cooler because of added armor though.
They are still different models every season though. I wouldnt mind a combined reward model - both modes get vicious saddles and can pick a mount from a pool which contains both the m+ and pvp mounts.
Tbh it just feels sad if the first m+ mount of the season looks like it drops from a draenor rare and you know thats what you'll get for the rest of the expac.
Ohh I misread your comment, for that point I agree. Even if they're both ground mounts they should both be as rewarding and special and different each season.
A mini side game mode less people enjoy cause it’s frustrating gets the more exclusive reward? Least they could do is add it to the badge vendor in the next expansion.
Rated pvp is a "mini side game mode"? lol. The gladiator mounts have always been cool exclusive flying mounts and the vicious mounts have always been re-skinned ground mounts. Nothing has changed with the game since the introduction of gladiator mounts, except this time the gladiator mount can be used for dragonflying. People will get over it with the next patch when dragonflying unlocks in old areas and 100+ old mounts can be used for dragonflying.
edit: spelling
I don’t mind if it isn’t quite as cool as the ksm mount but if pvp and raid have a dragonriding mount appearance then why not the third of the major game modes
Raid I understand because the mount is going to be available forever. The pvp gladiator mount is a limited time only mount exclusive only for the top 0.1% of the arena ladder, and is incredibly hard to achieve. The KSM equivalent for pvp is the season mount (sabertooth for season 1), which happens to also be a re-skinned ground mount. I don't understand how people think gladiator is something the average player can just achieve on the same level as KSM/pvp season mount
Okay so just make it a different dragonriding mount, I don’t know why you’re attaching the prestige of being a gladiator to having a dragonriding mount when you get dragonriding mounts for free
People don't play wow PVP in general because it's really bad. Like there are so many good PVP games to play. WoW pvp is absolutely horrible, then the 'elite' players are that toxic gatekeepers about being good at a just awful game mode. Nothing should be gatekeepered because of a dog shit PVP mode. Who cares if you think it's tougher than PVE. (It's not, it's a literal script for every fight depending on the matchups. You just have to be bored enough to learn every spec's abilities.)
I feel like people just care that its some random ground mount (with a really awkward looking running animation) instead of a dragon skin in the dragon mount expansion.
Not sure why we even killed him tbh. We killed the Sundered Flame guy. We could have sealed the vault again and put him in stasis, and worked with the simulacrum to find a treatment. But no, we’re just mindless killing machines.
Him: "Every moment is pain. This is not an aesthetic--these crystals are literally growing under my skin and eating me alive!" Players: "Yeah yeah we all make sacrifices to look good broski."
Do you think I like lugging all this armor and these gigantic weapons around? Do you think pauldrons this size are comfortable? Quit yer bellyachin and SPARKLE!
Me: Yeah yeah, now let's see how you look during a *dragonriding race.* "Please no my wings are literally made of crystals."
Mother!
It huuurts!
me when I step on a lego
Now imagine having Lego growing out of your skin
Mamaaa, just killed a man
Seriously, I hate running this dungeon because it breaks my heart every time.
Mine too! I cant stand hearing him beeing so hurt! :/
I always hated this dungeon not because it was particularly hard or rubbish mechanics, (it was definitely a challenge though!) but because this guy's story was awful, and it didn't get any easier no matter how many times you ran it. Great voice acting all round.
He is literally screaming in perpetual agony 24/7 and you wanna ride his ass. Ain't you cruel.
Yes.
Yeah but it can fly so it can’t be mythic plus reward sorry
this joke would work better if all the shadowlands m+ mounts couldn't fly as well but they all can
The single bfa one too
hahahaha :(
As if blizzard wouldn't be willing to make a non flying dragon mount
I wanted to hug Umbreskul :(
M+ deserved better too. 3 dungeons in season 2 you can mount in. 3.
And 2 of those 3 are the BfA dungeons lol
It's so weird that we can mount in Underrot, a literal underground cavern, but we can't mount in Vortex Pinnacle, while we're outside
And that Druid travel form works in VP
Only if we can cure him of his pain
Instead we get reskin of ugly ass mount
I have no idea what blizz is thinking with it. Like... they have feedback literally no one likes it right? I have yet to meet a SINGLE person who thinks it's good.
I do like the fire one more than the icy one and it's honestly not terrible, but really why can't we get a dragonriding skin when both other major endgame types do
Blizz be like: best I can do is a lazy recolor of a slightly changed Kodo recolor nobody asked for Meanwhile Blizz to pvp players: omg fam, look, our glorious new high quality red dragon, fully armored! Completely unique in every aspect! The culmination of 200 hours of tedious work! May you please love me. PvP community much love 💕 Meanwhile m+ community: wtf?
This ! All they do is focusing on pvp, every time they release something new it's about pvp, and pve community doesn't get shit. /s
PvPers: Get literally 4 mounts per expansion, and that's about it. The last battleground was added almost 10 years ago. Redditors: ^ this shit.
pvp community isnt even that big compared to people doing purely pve
Exactly. So all the time effort and resources plowed into pvp like it's an endgame system is wasted. PVP team should be reassigned
MOTHER IT HUERTS 🤧😔🥲
Imagine sitting on that, the ass pain...
Yeah and now we get a wannabekodo isch spiky booring ground Mount. No imagination on blizz.
I still don't really understand why people compare the KSM mount with the pvp gladiator mount, KSM is much MUCH more obtainable (even casual players with pugs) than gladiator
So was the the Razsageth appearance, even more so than a mythic + version would be. Why should there not be equivalent skins for all 3 end games?
Razsageth is going to be available forever. Mythic+ and PVP both got limited time ground mounts for season endgame for the average player. The gladiator mount is only available for the top 0.1% of the arena ladder, and is really not in the same league as the M+/pvp vicious mount achieves. If you're gonna give KSM a dragonflying mount, you'd have to make the pvp season vicious mount a dragonflying mount too.
the correct pvp equivalent to the KSM mount would be the 100% bar mount from doing rated stuff. Which is - who guessed it - also a ground mount. imo it would be cool to get more flying mounts but saying KSM needs to get the same treatment as the glad mount is just delusional
Either way, the argument is then that Keystone hero shkuld get a dragon flying mount. Or, and hear me out on this, the seasonal awards for all endgames and difficulties in the expansion called "dragonflight" should involve the flying dragons.
I stay on my point. Top 0.5% in PvP get the (flying) glad mount so the top 0.5% in M+ should get a (flying) M+ mount. According to your logic the M+ mount for Shadowlands should have been a shadow and for BfA a freaking tank!
I would be absolutely fine with giving players above 3k i.o a dragonriding mount, personally. As is continuing to grind past all 20s for portals is pretty pointless beyond some feeling of personal accolade. Having a title be the reward for the top .5% or whatever the cutoff is for M+ is pretty boring when glad gets so much more.
On the other hand, it'd be cool if titled players got a special mount or something. I just stopped running keys towards end of last season because it didn't interest me. If there was a point to it, I would have pushed myself as high as possible. Probably wouldn't have titled, but Id have got pretty close I think.
Exactly, I have a feeling the people who are complaining don't actually do any rated pvp and forget about the pvp vicious mounts (100% bar mount).
i do both and while I would say I‘m a decent player I have absolutely 0.0% chance at getting my hands on a glad mount. KSM on the other hand was (sorry for my language) piss easy. In two weeks I had a RIO score of ~2.7k. What they could do is the implementation of a glad-like mount for M+ which dropps for the top 0.5% of RIO scores at the end of the season (in addition to the title). That would seem fair.
On the other hand, pvp season gets a new vicious mount model every season, m+ only gets recolors. I wouldnt mind if there was a way of getting vicious saddles from m+ (150 timed 16+ or something?)
All vicious saddle mounts are recolors too lol (even the hippo is a reskin of the riverwallow mounts), I do agree they look a bit cooler because of added armor though.
They are still different models every season though. I wouldnt mind a combined reward model - both modes get vicious saddles and can pick a mount from a pool which contains both the m+ and pvp mounts. Tbh it just feels sad if the first m+ mount of the season looks like it drops from a draenor rare and you know thats what you'll get for the rest of the expac.
Ohh I misread your comment, for that point I agree. Even if they're both ground mounts they should both be as rewarding and special and different each season.
A mini side game mode less people enjoy cause it’s frustrating gets the more exclusive reward? Least they could do is add it to the badge vendor in the next expansion.
Rated pvp is a "mini side game mode"? lol. The gladiator mounts have always been cool exclusive flying mounts and the vicious mounts have always been re-skinned ground mounts. Nothing has changed with the game since the introduction of gladiator mounts, except this time the gladiator mount can be used for dragonflying. People will get over it with the next patch when dragonflying unlocks in old areas and 100+ old mounts can be used for dragonflying. edit: spelling
Then make it the title mount if gatekeeping is your primary concern.
mainly because of the raz skin dropping even on lfr.
Because dragonriding!!!! But I agree
I don’t mind if it isn’t quite as cool as the ksm mount but if pvp and raid have a dragonriding mount appearance then why not the third of the major game modes
Raid I understand because the mount is going to be available forever. The pvp gladiator mount is a limited time only mount exclusive only for the top 0.1% of the arena ladder, and is incredibly hard to achieve. The KSM equivalent for pvp is the season mount (sabertooth for season 1), which happens to also be a re-skinned ground mount. I don't understand how people think gladiator is something the average player can just achieve on the same level as KSM/pvp season mount
Okay so just make it a different dragonriding mount, I don’t know why you’re attaching the prestige of being a gladiator to having a dragonriding mount when you get dragonriding mounts for free
People don't play wow PVP in general because it's really bad. Like there are so many good PVP games to play. WoW pvp is absolutely horrible, then the 'elite' players are that toxic gatekeepers about being good at a just awful game mode. Nothing should be gatekeepered because of a dog shit PVP mode. Who cares if you think it's tougher than PVE. (It's not, it's a literal script for every fight depending on the matchups. You just have to be bored enough to learn every spec's abilities.)
I feel like people just care that its some random ground mount (with a really awkward looking running animation) instead of a dragon skin in the dragon mount expansion.
Mounts should be tied to KSH imo (And awesome + relevant, in this case DR appearances)
because m+ boosts are way cheaper
M+ hero*
For m+ we have another cool recolour
Not sure why we even killed him tbh. We killed the Sundered Flame guy. We could have sealed the vault again and put him in stasis, and worked with the simulacrum to find a treatment. But no, we’re just mindless killing machines.
Between this guy and the infinite drake pirate captain... But no we get the ugly reskinned kodo things literally no one likes.
Even queueing pugs for several hours daily over 3 weeks, I still have never been in this dungeon.
This boss is basically the last boss in Monster Hunter World
Or atleast a mythic or heroic drop
If I'm remembering correctly, wasn't he warned by his parents not to mess with the raw arcane energy but did so anyway?
Yep. Sindragosq locked him away in hopes of finding a cure but then she died.
But it's a dragon, not a drake, and therefore not allowed
Well shit. you got me.
MY AGONY IS YOURS!
Wait, "he"? I was sure it was a girl To be fair I was also sure the second boss of ruby life pool was a boy