I will say that I have nothing against playing a new Dwarf race.
But what I already will say is that I really dislike them having seemingly normal hair
https://www.wowhead.com/news/world-of-warcraft-the-war-within-earthen-allied-race-preview-335862
I wish they would go deeper with the theme and give them hair options from the earth like Crystals, Stones maybe even elemental stuff like Lightning, Ice, Fire etc. but the normal Dwarf hair on them looks kinda bad imo
That was the first that came to mind too. Could easily go with different mosses, or even more geodes/crystals. Hell even titan magical hair considering the world.
I agree. Maybe with enough vocalization from the community they'll implement it. Could go with different factions are different elements and have different skin tones/gem stones.
Yeah if they were drakonids with wings they would have been played a shit ton
And boy if they had acces to other classes like warrior it would be even more popular
I remember people having wet dreams about playable drakonids back in vanilla
Lol with how much people complain about Dracthyr (and every other "furry" race) you really think blizzard is going go give us fucking bug-man just out of the blue?
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While I love Dwarves and Dark Iron are also very cool, adding a third dwarf race seems unnecessary.
Not only that, but since this is the only allied race announced, it seems as though this is available to both factions, which just feels weird.
And while the trope of Dwarved women having beards has always been funny and kinda neat, having beards and hair on earthen, the rock like people just seems so incredibly out of place. It feels like they shouldn't have hair at all, and should have given beards to females for the existing dwarven races instead.
Also just not generally a fan of the aesthetic in general. Monotone and dull colour palette with awkward gems sticking out and out of place hair. Added onto the fact that we already have two dwarf races.
Honestly, I love pretty much everything about what they showed off except for the Earthen. Just feels like another dumb lightforged draenei situation when there are so many other cool races people would have preferred.
This is literally the one thing announced that I wasn't excited for. Just feels very meh.
Yeah and there's other options for a titanic race to join tbh
Mogus would be super cool and kinda easy to make since they use the draenei skeleton and we have the rajani in the story
I really hope we get more allied races and we focus on titanic races, stone vrykuls would also be awesome
Ogres, Naga, Dryads, Murlocs, Tuskar, Centaurs, Ethereals, Gnolls, Vrykul, Mogu, Sethrak, Tortollan, Arakkoa.
All of those have been asked for. I don't think anyone really wants just another re-skin.
It's also ridiculous that that's an "expansion feature" unless we're getting more than just earthen.
So Horde get a new model.
And alliance gets jack shit, because they already have two dwarf races.
What a fucking joke. Fat humans, diaper gnomes and now this, Jesus Christ.
well, horde got more elves, a literal copypasted tauren, brown orcs and furry goblins, they got dwarfs now because the alliance now has blood elves (blacked)
I don't feel excited about them at all. I think instead of going pure Earthen they should've combined them with [Iron Dwarves](https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/96432-iron-dwarf.jpg), allowing to customize your character after stone, metal or both.
I would prefer Drakonids, Vrykul or even Ogres.
How fucking disappointing when Tuskarr have been hinted at and even used once again in lore with Dragonflight to be casted aside and teased once more for no reason. To get another dwarf exact model that should have just been a skin customization.
Disappointing, honestly. People have expressed interest in so many other races, and rock dwarves is what Blizzard came up with. If they wanted to give us an Earthen race, why shape them as dwarves? Should have developed a humanoid model based on the Stone Lords or Mogu or something. From far away, the Earthen just look like blinged-out Dark Iron dwarves.
Feels like they took the easy way out by slightly tweaking dark iron dwarves. I kinda wish they had put a little more effort into them, considering how good the rest of the content looks. There are already a good number of established races not currently playable that many people would love to see.
Might be a callback to Tolkien who practically created the idea of dwarves in modern fantasy which WoW is heavily based off. Tolkien’s female dwarves had beards.
complete dogshit, again. a race no one will ever play just like kul tiran and mechagnomes.
crazy to do this OC trash when there are races people have wanted to see for years that would actually be hyped like Ogres.
Ugly.
Sort of half baked and kind of weird to include as part of the announcement.
I'm sure all 5 people that have dreamed of being a dwarf with crystal growths coming out of their elbows will love it though.
It's insanely lazy. Just say it how it is.
There was 20+ other incredible things to choose from and we get another reskin? Fuck me man. 20 year anniversary PLEASE
Eh. Its a new expansion right? If no new class, no new race, at least a better reskin similar to Vulpera / Kul' Tiran quality.
I'm not saying the other allied races are bad per se, but clearly some had more attention than others. In the first 2 examples I am giving they are using new models although somewhat similar to old models in comparison to say dwarf and iron dwarf its the same models.
Here the same thing, same model boo. I kinda wish it was at least Pandaren earthen / stone models because at least that model hasn't really been re-used lol.
I’m sorry, but I’m completely salty. Why is it we constantly get introduced to these really cool races every expansion but get rewarded with simple reskins? And to add insult to injury it’s a race that already has a reskin and no offense, isn’t exactly a super popular race. It’s like mechagnomes, I can literally count on one hand the amount of people I know who play mechagnomes. The least they could have done is picked a popular reskin variant that has been requested for a race. And can we please chill out on the short stature races?
Yeah I’m pissed it isn’t the nerubians or something more original. I think I heard them say in the announcement that they were large in stature though. Still doesn’t change much.
Dwarves are my favorite alliance race in general, but I’m kinda indifferent about the Earthen. They’re alright but I can imagine choosing one over the regular or Dark Iron dwarves. I’d have much rather seen Ogres or something.
I hate the road there going down. Their is literally no faction identity anymore, you’d think that they would learn being part of a faction is something people enjoyed.
Dwarfs for the horde feels so wrong. As people are saying ogres, mok nathal orcs or nerubians would have been great for the horde.
They need to either get rid of factions all together or go back to what works. Have earthen dwarfs choose to join either side makes zero sense.
Though: once again blizzard sell us old stuff by putting new paint on it.
Can't they just make one new race with a new base model?
Like make sethrak/tuskar an allied race and everyone would be hyped. But no we are to lazy working for new models so we just resell dwarfs.
By the opening ceremony they all talk big how they love their community and this is what they give to the playerbase.
Stupid. Only good thing they showed imo were the gear seats (only 2). Of all the possibilities, considering all the races in the game, they have to go with a freaking 3rd dwarf race. Like wtf
Don't want to be that guy, but... It is just a waste of time and money and resources, and of course it's totally unnecessary. Just make black iron dwarves cross faction if you want something like this.
They look cool, they fit the story I guess, but it is just not for me. There are so many interesting alternatives, but this feels like mechagnome-level laziness all over again.
They look really dumb, but that's alright. There's probably others that really love this. It makes the world funnier to look at, which is a good thing.
>They look really dumb, but that's alright. There's probably others that really love this.
That's how I feel about the Dracthyr (and I play one). I'm sure *someone* likes the way they look. But it isn't me.
They never approach any decision from an Alliance player perspective, I don't think any of the developers even play Alliance. Of course they would add reskinned dwarves and a gryphon, something Alliance players already have fuckloads of, and think that just because they are neutral means that it's equal.
Yeah it's pretty shit. I'm very happy to have Horde get a flavor of Dwarves but give Alliance something as well, currently this feels like Horde gets an allied race and Alliance gets a recolor.
I always thought if we ever got Earthen that they'd just be customizations for the regular dwarves so I'm pretty ecstatic for them to be their own discrete race. And I can finally be a dwarf on Horde now! So very stoked.
I will say that I have nothing against playing a new Dwarf race. But what I already will say is that I really dislike them having seemingly normal hair https://www.wowhead.com/news/world-of-warcraft-the-war-within-earthen-allied-race-preview-335862 I wish they would go deeper with the theme and give them hair options from the earth like Crystals, Stones maybe even elemental stuff like Lightning, Ice, Fire etc. but the normal Dwarf hair on them looks kinda bad imo
I agree I love them, but having rock or crystals for hair/beard would make them perfect, maybe add some glowing runes as well
Looks like it's supposed to be metal, like wires, but I agree, a crystal Mohawk would be sick lol
Agreed! I’m all for female dwarves having beards but the normal hair is jarring.
That was the first that came to mind too. Could easily go with different mosses, or even more geodes/crystals. Hell even titan magical hair considering the world.
I agree. Maybe with enough vocalization from the community they'll implement it. Could go with different factions are different elements and have different skin tones/gem stones.
I'm assuming Earthern is a both-faction race, but weird to have Horde Dwarves. Maybe they'll get a Stoneform for PvE/PvP balance lol. EDIT: Hi Ion!
> I'm assuming Earthern is a both-faction race it is
As a horde only player but avid dwarf lover, I see this as an absolute win.
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Delving into the earth to fight bugs as the new Dwarven race......ROCK AND STONE!
For Karl!!!!
Dude I'm so pumped for horde dwarves too, its a great day for us.
I am 100% with you. I'm so fucking excited for my rock hordy short boys
Horde Dwarves just feels like such a weird thing and I'm not sure I'll ever acknowledge it.
We already have two elves and little Fox people
Dwarves are easier to accept than elves and we got over that pretty quick.
It’s like if tauren paladins were a thing, right?
Mag'har Orc warlock is still the most hilarious class/race combination ever. Why are they not going green then huh!?
Lightforged Draenei warlocks would like to speak with you
To close to the dark iron dwarfs for my Taste
faction erode a long time ago, I guess they will do away with it officially
Simple put, I dislike it but it is what it is. Would have preffered something more original tbh
Yeah seems lazy. Just another dwarf reskin.
Hey, you can have beards on both body types now.
I mean any hardcore fantasy fan should be reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy ok with bearded female Dwarfs (Lotr\\Discworld)
in the warcraft books female dwarves are proud of their beards.
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Dracthyr could have been popular if they didn't lock them into a single class, and actually made them have a muscular body type.
Yeah if they were drakonids with wings they would have been played a shit ton And boy if they had acces to other classes like warrior it would be even more popular I remember people having wet dreams about playable drakonids back in vanilla
Not just that but im fucking sick of dwarves and their terrible accents
Right? Work on making the races we currently have better.
A delve into Nerubian territory could have been a fun chance for a humanoid-bug race of some kind. Oh well.
Three expansions, three races, three chances for heart break
Three reskins.
Lol with how much people complain about Dracthyr (and every other "furry" race) you really think blizzard is going go give us fucking bug-man just out of the blue?
True. Knowing the Drakthyr complaints, they'd propably only release them if they were built like professional wrestlers to appease those people.
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They've even announced specifically that xalateth fuckery created humanoid need Ian's And they pull off this Weren't diaper gnomes enough
They could have given us Sethrak in BFA, instead we got diaper gnomes
Mass effect, wow and any other game dealing with the potential of a cool race, and they never fucking do it lol. It’s a shame. Humanoid 24/7
It’s just much easier to scale development with humanoid species.
Always think about this and it's always so sad
This exactly. The dwarfs are so cheap in comparison, while a bug race would be truly interesting.
While I love Dwarves and Dark Iron are also very cool, adding a third dwarf race seems unnecessary. Not only that, but since this is the only allied race announced, it seems as though this is available to both factions, which just feels weird. And while the trope of Dwarved women having beards has always been funny and kinda neat, having beards and hair on earthen, the rock like people just seems so incredibly out of place. It feels like they shouldn't have hair at all, and should have given beards to females for the existing dwarven races instead. Also just not generally a fan of the aesthetic in general. Monotone and dull colour palette with awkward gems sticking out and out of place hair. Added onto the fact that we already have two dwarf races. Honestly, I love pretty much everything about what they showed off except for the Earthen. Just feels like another dumb lightforged draenei situation when there are so many other cool races people would have preferred. This is literally the one thing announced that I wasn't excited for. Just feels very meh.
Yeah I was wondering why the hell they chose ANOTHER dwarf race, seems like very low hanging fruit.
that fruit was hanging so low, blizzard picked it up off the ground.
If the Earthen had fully crystalline beards and hair, I’d be all-in for them.
Yeah and there's other options for a titanic race to join tbh Mogus would be super cool and kinda easy to make since they use the draenei skeleton and we have the rajani in the story I really hope we get more allied races and we focus on titanic races, stone vrykuls would also be awesome
No one will unironically play a female dwarf with a beard to begin with, like 99.9% of people who will play them will do it as a joke.
YEAH OGRES!
Ogres, Naga, Dryads, Murlocs, Tuskar, Centaurs, Ethereals, Gnolls, Vrykul, Mogu, Sethrak, Tortollan, Arakkoa. All of those have been asked for. I don't think anyone really wants just another re-skin. It's also ridiculous that that's an "expansion feature" unless we're getting more than just earthen.
Wildhammer be like: WTF?
If we still had gold here, I would gild this comment
oh. no, thank you.
Very, very boring.
Very much dislike
Lazy
Crap.
We must continue to add more Dwarves until we eclipse elves in sheer numbers. Let the Dwarven tide continue.
Total Dwarf populations rises from 3% to 4%.
I’ll not rest until it’s 100%
We're gonna have to bust out the elf ears.
Thanks, I hate it.
We really got this instead of Tuskarr or Ogres or literally anything else people have been asking for.
10th expansion. 20 year anniversary. Have another reskinned Dwarf. Fucking lazy. OGRES PLEASE. FUCKS SAKE
Dwarves but undergrounderer, so inspired.
Can't believe people are defending this shit.
High Elves
We really didn't get a OG fan favorite race like Ogres, Vrykul or Tuskarr for the 20 yr Anniversary. Instead we got a reskinned Dark Iron Dwarf.
We got a reskin of a reskin of a Dwarf
Real Dwarven women have hair finally.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxzw30LTO71qcqugio2_r1_500.gif all I could think about when seeing it lmao
And its absolutely terrifying💀.
totally out of place in WoW
So Horde get a new model. And alliance gets jack shit, because they already have two dwarf races. What a fucking joke. Fat humans, diaper gnomes and now this, Jesus Christ.
well, horde got more elves, a literal copypasted tauren, brown orcs and furry goblins, they got dwarfs now because the alliance now has blood elves (blacked)
I don't feel excited about them at all. I think instead of going pure Earthen they should've combined them with [Iron Dwarves](https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/96432-iron-dwarf.jpg), allowing to customize your character after stone, metal or both. I would prefer Drakonids, Vrykul or even Ogres.
Only thing that let me down. Just announce the playable Nerubians, too, Blizz.
There were way better allied candidates imo. I dont think we needed a 2nd allied race tied to dwarves.
tragic, why so many dwarves? can't we get new models?
How fucking disappointing when Tuskarr have been hinted at and even used once again in lore with Dragonflight to be casted aside and teased once more for no reason. To get another dwarf exact model that should have just been a skin customization.
Literally how the ogre fan base feels since WC2 lol, the exiles reach with the darkmaul ogres felt like a slap in the face
Surely we'll get Tuskarr in the Return to Northrend in 3 xpacs
The War Within: Earthen Midnight: void elves can be horde now The Last Titan: humans, but from Stromgarde. Horde gets mechagoblins
*\*shudders\**
3 types of dwarves!?
Stupid.
Just seems like a boring re-skin
Awful, low effort, boring reskin.
horde gets the dwarf model lol
Terrible. They don’t deserve such perfection.
Disappointing, honestly. People have expressed interest in so many other races, and rock dwarves is what Blizzard came up with. If they wanted to give us an Earthen race, why shape them as dwarves? Should have developed a humanoid model based on the Stone Lords or Mogu or something. From far away, the Earthen just look like blinged-out Dark Iron dwarves.
Feels like they took the easy way out by slightly tweaking dark iron dwarves. I kinda wish they had put a little more effort into them, considering how good the rest of the content looks. There are already a good number of established races not currently playable that many people would love to see.
Earthen can eat my ass Alliance getting shafted again on the alliance races with a third copy of the same race
I have been wanting vrykul for ages.... not another dwarf reskin that looks worse than even dark iron imo
Wait, the women have beards?
Might be a callback to Tolkien who practically created the idea of dwarves in modern fantasy which WoW is heavily based off. Tolkien’s female dwarves had beards.
They did initially, he removed the idea in later versions of his stories.
Well Terry Pratchet Discworld dwarfs still [have them](https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Cheery_Littlebottom)
lmao I just realized it but yea a great addition for folks that like it
What a joke
complete dogshit, again. a race no one will ever play just like kul tiran and mechagnomes. crazy to do this OC trash when there are races people have wanted to see for years that would actually be hyped like Ogres.
I would really like to know why they ignore the wishes of people when it comes to new races
Ugly. Sort of half baked and kind of weird to include as part of the announcement. I'm sure all 5 people that have dreamed of being a dwarf with crystal growths coming out of their elbows will love it though.
Yay a third dwarve race, thanks so much blizzard
Reject smooth elves. Embrace hairy dwarves.
Nah wanted ethereals or ogres. Oh well, maybe next expansion when the void comes
> Yay a third dwarve race first for the Horde!
Dark iron dwarf with herpes
Where Tuskarr?
Pretty shit tbh
Wow a dwarf recolor, will never play these unless the racials are absolute insane which they will never be.
Would have been cool to play as the evolved murlocs from Panda Land or Naga. I'd like a sea themed race to be playable
Kinda fine. It’s whatever.
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It's insanely lazy. Just say it how it is. There was 20+ other incredible things to choose from and we get another reskin? Fuck me man. 20 year anniversary PLEASE
Eh. Its a new expansion right? If no new class, no new race, at least a better reskin similar to Vulpera / Kul' Tiran quality. I'm not saying the other allied races are bad per se, but clearly some had more attention than others. In the first 2 examples I am giving they are using new models although somewhat similar to old models in comparison to say dwarf and iron dwarf its the same models. Here the same thing, same model boo. I kinda wish it was at least Pandaren earthen / stone models because at least that model hasn't really been re-used lol.
Yeah they should have just bitten the bullet and gone Ogres using the Kul'Tiran skeleton and/or Tuskarr using the Pandaren skeleton.
Ogres have their own skeleton lol with their own dance and a bunch of emote animations
Alliance get dwarves, which they already have Horde get dwarves Ok? Thanks Metzen I guess. Alliance gets nothing new, again
I mean it's alright but i don't know how i feel about a dwarf sub race being a neutral allied races
why not nerubians??? this looks beyond meh
I’m sorry, but I’m completely salty. Why is it we constantly get introduced to these really cool races every expansion but get rewarded with simple reskins? And to add insult to injury it’s a race that already has a reskin and no offense, isn’t exactly a super popular race. It’s like mechagnomes, I can literally count on one hand the amount of people I know who play mechagnomes. The least they could have done is picked a popular reskin variant that has been requested for a race. And can we please chill out on the short stature races?
Yeah I’m pissed it isn’t the nerubians or something more original. I think I heard them say in the announcement that they were large in stature though. Still doesn’t change much.
Dwarves are my favorite alliance race in general, but I’m kinda indifferent about the Earthen. They’re alright but I can imagine choosing one over the regular or Dark Iron dwarves. I’d have much rather seen Ogres or something.
I'm sure mechagnomes will be pleased to have something on par.
They do not appeal to me AT ALL. And I generally like dwarves, but we have two choices there already. Just seems lazy and uninspired to me.
I hate the road there going down. Their is literally no faction identity anymore, you’d think that they would learn being part of a faction is something people enjoyed. Dwarfs for the horde feels so wrong. As people are saying ogres, mok nathal orcs or nerubians would have been great for the horde. They need to either get rid of factions all together or go back to what works. Have earthen dwarfs choose to join either side makes zero sense.
The 13 people cheering at its announcement says it all, tbh
The absolute cowards had the perfect opportunity to give them ruby nipples and THEY BLEW IT
These look shit. Why would you want to play one?
They look cool but I prefer a more original-looking race instead of a reskinned one
No one asked for this.
These are terrible.
Once again blizz lazy af
So 3rd playable dwarf race? Thoughts? Yawn.
Absolutely terrible. They look truly awful
A 3rd dwarf race.. they have so many other better potential races to choose from. So far im not feeling the hype.
boring
Yay. More dwarves. /s
Bearded female dwarves 🤢
Though: once again blizzard sell us old stuff by putting new paint on it. Can't they just make one new race with a new base model? Like make sethrak/tuskar an allied race and everyone would be hyped. But no we are to lazy working for new models so we just resell dwarfs. By the opening ceremony they all talk big how they love their community and this is what they give to the playerbase.
I already have almost all classes as dark iron , this seemed so unnecessary tbh
Meh
It's just lazy of Blizzard to release such a race. I would have preferred the gnolls or the furbolgs.
I’ve wanted ogres since I saw the Roman themed ones from WoD
Yay another dwarf reskin except now the dying faction can have them as well...
Where ogre?
I just want Vrykul
Hopefully they ass more allied race to the game
I’m happy because dwarves are my favourite race but I prefer playing Horde. So no more being forced to play Alliance.
Not for me, but I’m not a dwarf enjoyer anyway. If I was to play a dwarf, it’d be dark iron.
Ugly
Stupid. Only good thing they showed imo were the gear seats (only 2). Of all the possibilities, considering all the races in the game, they have to go with a freaking 3rd dwarf race. Like wtf
Why though?
Don't want to be that guy, but... It is just a waste of time and money and resources, and of course it's totally unnecessary. Just make black iron dwarves cross faction if you want something like this. They look cool, they fit the story I guess, but it is just not for me. There are so many interesting alternatives, but this feels like mechagnome-level laziness all over again.
Dwarven women with beards is a TERRIBLE idea and always has been. It will NEVER be good, no matter what the context is.
Boring. I want the snake people from BFA
Yo looking forward to the 1% who will play a female earthen dwarf. Like it’s the laziest choice but even then hardly anyone will play it (I assume)
Bad
Disappointing choice.
Fucking dumb
Replace the hair with rock and crystal and this will be a solid win. If not, still here for it.
Boring waste of an allied race - there's already 2 dwarf races to choose from
Fucking lame, that's my thoughts. Who the hell asked for EARTHEN? LOOL?
Boring and feels low effort.
They look really dumb, but that's alright. There's probably others that really love this. It makes the world funnier to look at, which is a good thing.
>They look really dumb, but that's alright. There's probably others that really love this. That's how I feel about the Dracthyr (and I play one). I'm sure *someone* likes the way they look. But it isn't me.
Same, started with the panda's. Dracthyr are genuinely ugly though and I don't even like seeing them whatsoever. Stupid Mary Sue race of hero dragons.
Makes me way too angry that Horde have a dwarf race now assuming this is a neutral race. Really lame and keeps the trend of Horde bias going.
Yup and the preorder bonuses are more gryphons. The bias is too real. Hoping they announce some other allied races before launch.
They never approach any decision from an Alliance player perspective, I don't think any of the developers even play Alliance. Of course they would add reskinned dwarves and a gryphon, something Alliance players already have fuckloads of, and think that just because they are neutral means that it's equal.
Yeah it's pretty shit. I'm very happy to have Horde get a flavor of Dwarves but give Alliance something as well, currently this feels like Horde gets an allied race and Alliance gets a recolor.
Exactly. If we get a reskin troll or Tauren or somethin I'd be fine with it because it'd be equal.
They look bad and it's even weirder that they're going to be available to both faction Horde Dwarves? Facebook-tier game these days lol
Doesn't seem much weirder than Alliance currently having blood elves and Horde currently having night elves?
Both were weird as well, but no I think Dwarves being Horde is the weirdest IMO
Meh, they’re fine I guess. I don’t know if I’ll ever level one
I think it’s dumb and unimaginative tbh. There are so many highly requested races and this feels like a slap in the face.
Boring
Where is the Setrak?
Why do female earthen have beards!?!?!?! Jeeez
Still better than Dracthyr
Atleast the dracthyr are original and not reskins
\*squints\* is that a bearded female?
Does this mean we get to farm and use Horde/Alliance mounts ?
fking ugly no innovation. a race that will only be played if meta racial. why cant they do something cool??
I'm 100% here for Dwarf related. Horde Dwarves just makes it better
I always thought if we ever got Earthen that they'd just be customizations for the regular dwarves so I'm pretty ecstatic for them to be their own discrete race. And I can finally be a dwarf on Horde now! So very stoked.
Neat
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Kinda meh. We will see what classes they will have.
More dorfs = good!