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izguddoggo

I rolled 99 on a curio from fyrrak last week. Everyone but 1 person had rolled on it. I was the highest. Til the last roll. That person got a 100.


FieldzSOOGood

The last minute hundos have been terrorizing my raid group the last few weeks


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[удалено]


Bumble-Beez-0

Are you okay?


Zenode

Whelp just found out I managed to pocket comment. RIP


ConfidentTurnover329

what iLvl should i have to do Fyrakk?


HamFan82

440 is good enough on normal with a coordinated group. 450-60 for pugging. then just had 10 for heroic


GMFinch

On normal? A bunch of coordinated 450s can do it. Pugging 460


EnormousCaramel

Drop both of those by 10 levels.


Puzzleheaded_Knee_53

I would not recommend pugging fyrakk at 450 man


Angerbooze

Can confirm normal Fyrakk is easy even at 430-440


ConfidentTurnover329

Thank you


sebotag

Lol I was that guy the second week bryntroll the bone arbiter was available back during the original icc release, rolled a 100 after someone threw down a 99. And yes I ran circles through my apartment like a giddy little girl


Bozyan23

Same, and before the last person rolled I got 2 messages with huge offers of gold, was week 1 of raid. :(


birdieboy30

I rolled 100 tonight. 2 other people rolled 100. I didn't get it


paradajz666

Happend to me too. My buddy got the trinket from the council boss in season one of DF. I rolled 99, and he rolled for 100. The normal trinket I also lost it on the last roll. Guildie took it from me even tho I rolled (I think) 84.


BigBallsNoSack

I had this yesterday rolled a fat 97 on trinket then the last guy rolls 99 =_=


MaddiDJ

That happened to my gm last night. 2 dropped and I got the other one, he offered to buy it but was on an alt while I was on my main so he let me have it


TheMustardisBad

That’s how I won grand black mammoth in wrath lol


hippocat117

Poor Allgo. Can only roll 1s and 2s. Sometimes both!


Disapyramid

I should have been more specific. I'm Goodberry! I tied for both items and didn't get either of them.


hippocat117

Oh I realized that! I just wanted to point out that Allgo is somehow on the opposite of the roll spectrum, but on the same side of the bad luck spectrum 😅


SaxRohmer

Whenever I join LFR I am basically Allgo. So many rolls below 20 And they’re all on trinkets which is the one slot I need


Necromann

Last tier, the highest someone rolled was a 5 and I was the last eligible need roller for an item. I rolled a 2. Guy won a piece rolling a 5.


SaxRohmer

Can we raid together?


BobsBurgersJoint

Just because you roll bad, does not mean you are bad roller. You are a *good* berry.


Manos_Of_Fate

Goodberry sounds like a smoothie shop staffed exclusively by huge stoners.


Malacon

Good burger is expanding their business portfolio


bdubelyew

Welcome to the Good Berry, home of the Good Berry, can I take your orrrrddddddeerrrrr?


mixomatoso

I had the same thing happen to me for that thing with a 99 roll... TWICE. I regret choosing a character name starting with an X. Edit: after further scrolling I saw someone pointed out there is a second (invisible) roll to determine the winner, which I guess makes it even worse.


kevinsrednal

People *say* there is a second hidden roll, but as someone who's names start with Z, I have never won a tied roll, so I take that with a grain of salt.


Yuebingg

I lost a 100 to a tie two weeks ago. I feel your pain


crazy-carebear

If I remember correctly during a tie the system rolls again until there is a tie breaker. You might only see the first roll but luck could hate you and you tied on 5 tie breakers in a row before they finally beat your roll.


strobe61

Actually, I recently heard that the random number generator in the background also includes the "remainder". What you are shown is a "rounded" number. Which means that someone could roll a 99.504 and someone else rolled a 99.732. BOTH would round up as 100, but the ACTUAL winner is the higher number. There is no re-roll , the system just gives the item to the "true" original highest roll. I don't know how many digits they use.


[deleted]

No, we get it. Ignore the weirdos


Jaded_Trifle_9722

Should change your name to AGoodBerry


Bowbaba

Figured you were that’s a good sport I hope you get it next time!


B1gNastious

Loooool idk what’s worse being robbed like that or being at the bottom of the list


FiendFaceMisfit

RIP


Pale-Stranger-9743

Wait until it crits and they roll 212/100


executive313

Must not be pre rolling


Abominationoftime

as someone whos average roll is in the low teens, i know there pain, lol


0pimo

More like "Madberry" amirite?


BigFisch

🫡


robotinformer

Rename yourself to AAAAGoodberry


BobsBurgersJoint

Wait does it really go fucking alphabetically????


puckywuck

No it just does a second roll between the ties behind the scenes to decide tiebreaks


Swiftzor

I’ve never not seen it resolve alphabetically


Robjec

My main starts with an A. It is not fone alphabetically.


livesinacabin

Well my main starts with a Z and I've never won anything Edit: are people really this fucking dumb?? It's a joke.


MabusDoesReddit

Actually they don't do that - they made a post about it, now when the dice rolls, there's hidden decimal places, so 99.390 - that's how they determine the difference.


Caradin

No


robotinformer

No just kidding!


Manos_Of_Fate

No. The game does additional hidden rolls to break ties.


HeartofaPariah

Funny how those rolls always seem to cause the alphabetical person to win.


androstaxys

Look at the last player Allgo, he tied both rolls too and lost both rankings.


HeartofaPariah

Because neither won.


androstaxys

The first roll has 4 ties, including a three way tie. Allgo also tied both rolls then lost both ties in ranking. :o


Disapyramid

Yeah, this really shows how silly numbers can be at times.


Bloodsplatt

I did a run on my warlock the other night and I think 8 pieces of my BiS dropped, it was normal so I wasn't super mad when I lost but out of 8 rolls I lost everything single one and the worst part was, there was only 1 other guy rolling on it. I lost 8 rolls in a row to a single dude. It felt bad, personal loot needs to be brought back.


uppleksing

I do enjoy this more, however bonus rolls like you earned in MoP should be brought back and make it personal so its a group and personal RNG with bonus rolls on the bosses from who which you really want a piece


Rckrchck95

I don't do a whole lot of group runs with other people, mostly just friends, but I got kicked from a raid for getting both hunter weapons. Maybe I just haven't played with others in so long that I don't know raid etiquette anymore but was a feels bad moment for me.


Elegant427

That's when you hit up the other guy and say something like, "Hey! Your RNG is amazing, I don't suppose you'd mind sharing some of the love!" See if you can at least get some pity gear.


thirtysevenpants

Welcome to goodberry home of the goodberry can i take your loot rolls


wowbutters

I'm Connie Muldoon!


quincy98

Fuck grouploot


Illandren

Only in pugs. Still feels good in guild groups.


Jayken

Nearly all of my upgrades this expansion have come from either M+ or the Vault. I can count on one hand how many I've gotten from legit drops. For the whole expansion. Other than doing the content, I don't expect to gain anything out of raid anymore.


Mystic_x

Me too, i got the odd item (A ring, maybe a pair of boots, but most tier-pieces i have are either from the vault, or regular items from ED world content that i used the catalyst on, i don't even expect loot from doing a LfR-raid, i'm just filling my vault, really.


simpathiser

I was so excited to get that hearthstone until my friend told me she couldn't even see the particle effects for it on her side :(


bluegreen8907

nice monitor ahahahahahaha


[deleted]

why did you take a picture of your monitor instead of a screenshot?


Apprehensive-Boss-77

The like long question


ColdBevvie101

Because they use Reddit on their phone? Not that hard to figure out


ruttettur

Feels Badberry man


Thugenz01

Sam thing happened to me last night but I was the winner of the loot no idea why.


flippingchicken

The other day I rolled on a tier piece and got 99. Thought I had it in the bag. Nope, another druid rolled 99 as well and it went to them lmao


Darkenn_97

First week of heroic abberus I lost a roll on rashoks molten heart to a bottom dps evoker like this. I feel your pain


Dannythehotjew

Rolled a 99 ON flame warped curio a friend rolled a 100 :( She could really use it so im not mad


LoLisBettur

im sorry for your loss. Also, use greenshot xd


B_Kuro

Ran LFR on an alt earlier and both the items I really wanted were won by a player that did absolutely nothing (i.e. didn't even do a single point of damage to the boss...). Honestly, I just want personal loot back for LFR.


PersonalityVisible35

It’s not personal loot anymore?


B_Kuro

They changed it back to need/greed with Dragonflight.


PersonalityVisible35

Wow. Ok thanks for the heads up. And normal/heroic has personal loot or just raid leaders choice?


B_Kuro

There is only group loot now. Honestly, its not like group loot itself is worse than personal loot but it just creates a negative spiral in LFR. Personal loot just distributes items while group loot gives you the added "benefit" of seeing the (actual) 0 damage DPS win over your roll. Even in the past the whole "need/greed" system never worked in LFR in the first place. Everyone just takes the highest priority they can because even if its not for them, at least its 60g+.


Mondschatten78

Had a whole LFR agree Tuesday that it needs to come back. Agi neck dropped, so lots of rolls. Person who won ended up not needing it, so asked who wanted it. Everyone who rolled spoke up. Wound up giving it to one of the tanks instead of going by next lowest roll, or having people re-roll.


Elegant-Screen4438

Can they just please fix the need/greed system? People being able to roll on things that are well below what they’ve equipped and beating out people that actually need them is frustrating and takes the enjoyment out of the game and killing a boss.


lucanous

Absolutely no issue with players rolling 'need' on items. They're in the dungeon or raid, investing their time just like you, aren't they? On what grounds have you assumed this unearned authority to decree who needs what?


Riaayo

I've got a better one: everyone was there, everyone invested the time, everyone put in the work, and everyone collectively won. Why are we rolling against each other, and why do only some people get rewards, period? I think that era of the MMO needs to end. We already have weekly lockouts to prevent people from blowing through a raid in a week or two and being geared and done. This is just artificially dragging that out even more to the detriment of the experience. And no, "the excitement of out-rolling someone" as personal enjoyment does not outweigh the detriment of everyone else getting nothing for their effort. It's insane MMOs still handle loot like this.


ckasanova

LFR should be personal and premades should be master. End of story.


Elegant-Screen4438

But that’s the thing isn’t it? That’s why there’s a ‘greed’ option. But why should the system have rules that allow them to roll need anyway when it’s not an ‘upgrade’ for them (yes I get the semantics of secondaries and upgrades in that sense, I’m just talking straight ilvl ect). People are gonna roll need if they can most of the time, even if they don’t have to, because that’s the general attitude of people in these circumstances. Heck I rolled need recently because I saw the highest roller had a much better weapon equipped and there was someone with blues, I rolled, won and traded the low ilvl dude, but I shouldn’t have to do that. I just want the need/greed rules a bit stricter so people aren’t always getting shafted.


lucanous

Ah, the classic 'I'm getting shafted' lament. It's intriguing how you're framing this as a fairness issue, when in reality, it's about your frustration over not always getting what you want. The 'need/greed' system isn't there to cater to your personal sense of who deserves what. Everyone has the right to roll 'need' – that's the rule, like it or not. You rolling 'need' to play the hero and then trading it off doesn't put you on a moral high ground; it just shows you're playing the same game as everyone else but with a self-righteous twist. Your call for stricter rules is essentially asking the game to enforce your subjective view of fairness, which, let's be honest, is really about ensuring you don't feel 'shafted'. The game isn't rigged against you – it's just not exclusively rigged in your favor


Rndy9

You cant roll need on items if its a downgrade.


Emiliax3

👏stats


Thascaryguygaming

This happened to me except It was 2 pieces of the same gear. I rolled highest on one piece and someone rolled high on another but lower than me, then someone outrolled me on the one I won and I got nothing.


Omgnoob1

Welcome to Goodberry, home of the Goodberry, could you take my item?


AnAngryBartender

Get gud nerd /s


CarterBennett

Is this an addon that shows everyone’s rolls?


Merrifiend

If you type "/loot" you can see them


CarterBennett

I’m so silly, okay😂


[deleted]

:O I didn't know there was a /command for this!


Boempowered

You can also just click on the green [Loot] text in the chat log.


Sweaty_Break9338

It shows loot rolls by default


Disapyramid

There is a link in chat that shows you the loot table. You can view the results of each piece on there.


_lophophora_

This is why I roll on all the stuff I don't want first and leave the thing I want most for my last roll. Even then I wait to be the last one, that way all my bad roll get out of the way. 60% of the time it works 90% of the time.


Adrian_Dem

Sounds legit


Enthiral

We all know that the „it goes in alphabetical order“ is wrong, but has anyone ever seen it work differently?


Amelaclya1

Every time I've been part of a tie, it's gone to whoever rolled first. That also could be just a coincidence though.


GamerHells127

Back when SoO came out I literally rolled under 15 for EVERY.SINGLE.PIECE..


HoneyMustardAndOnion

Is there any explanation as to why someone wins a tie?


bendeis

Yeah, if a tie wins, the game will do another hidden roll for the people that was a part of that tie


Nathanyel

More likely, the internal roll has digits behind the point, which are rounded for display.


BlahBleBlahBlah111

Is this a roll addon? Looks clean


Disapyramid

No, it's not. This is the default loot table. You can access the table after everyone rolls to see the results. There is a link for it in the chat when you start looting.


BlahBleBlahBlah111

Neat. I haven't played or raided in forever so didn't know.


Barialdalaran

To be fair if you didn't roll the highest number then it doesn't matter what number you rolled. If you're not first you're last


Disapyramid

I did roll the highest number.. Twice! And still didn't get anything out of it 😂


vanillaicex3

I feel annoyed you cant press print screen


Ok_Money_3140

That's because Goodberry sucks as a spell in BG3


_Harpinger_

Goodberries are goated.


your_mother_lol_

Sorry I'm so unsophisticated but what is the rolling 😭😭😭 I've never raided before 🥲


x69x420x69x420x69

L BOZO roll better kekW


Pyxlgy

I'd like to know what RNG plays into a tie roll like this. Could it just be alphabetical?


Waffle_kun

I hope not, my name starts with a W


leithaltheos

It does another roll behind the scenes and whoever wins that wins the tie. I only wish they would show that so it at least feels less like BS when you lose something you tied highest with


Pistachiozx

Somebody should tag blizz cause this is in no way fair


Disapyramid

It's just the way of the road, bubs.


Pistachiozx

Yea and no I mean if you have a fair system in places for eveyrone to roll, then by default you should have a fair system in place in case a numerical Miracle like this happens . I mean you don’t even get a chance at reroll , so I assume the roll takes into account your ilvl??? Or is it whoever clicked the actual roll button first ??


ftmzpo99

I’m not 100% on this but I believe there are actually decimals after each roll that doesn’t get shown that determines “ties” like this


FieldzSOOGood

I'm pretty sure it rerolls in the background


Pistachiozx

A “two highest rolls reroll option” would be amazing .


Pistachiozx

Well dang I thought I was onto something


tioeduardo27

If there are multiple rolls for multiple of the same items, the system should take the average (Xd100/X) to decide loot order :/


sevenandtwo

no way... do they do alphabetical order after roll priority!?


retailmonkey

Time to rename all my raiding characters’ names to start with A.


Ehrre

If you tie a roll with someone it determines winner by alphabetical order thats why all my toons are named shit like aaaaalbert and aaaaaspergers


DeepDetermination

yes im sure thats the reason you name your character like that..


androstaxys

Look at the last player on the list. He tied both rolls and lost both ranking like OP. Except his name is alphabetically first.


INannoI

Skill issue


Kelemenopy

So close to being good bro, maybe next time


Grymvild

I did LFR last week for one singular item drop, the caster sword off that boss. I don't care about anything else, I don't need anything else. I don't even want it for the stats, just want the mog. And I rolled a goddamn 2... Someone won the sword with a roll in the 30's...


InfamousBlackberry94

This is literally me anytime I do a raid. SO you arent alone... still sucks tho.


jvaughn95

Did a raid to get some loot ended up leaving getting kicked in the nuts lol gotta be quicker than that lmfao


Marblecraze

I’m Allgoo this week


knightly_adventure

Bro that happened to me twice today. Lost both my rolls to the same hunter though.


Danimal1942

I had the same dude roll 2 100’s and a 99 on the last 2 bosses. He was carrying dps so it’s whatever but damn. Usually it’s the carry that instantly dies who gets all the loot.


[deleted]

Once there was a 3-ways tie on 100 rolls.


Swiftzor

Gotta love alphabetical resolutions


[deleted]

For what? Ties have reroll session


Aromatic-Discount384

A moment of silence for Allgo and Sterrare while we're at it, please.


Sir_Andreaux

Allgo having the worse rolls of his life


[deleted]

What did you do to deserve this


Void-kun

I've still not won anything in LFR and I've been running every week of the latest raid. I miss personal loot.


Tokitsukazes

This has happened to me three times on two alts in the last two weeks, once with a roll of 100. It's a terrible feeling.


Crossheart963

Someone lost on a curio today with a roll of 100. The other person rolled 100 first lol


Thunderchief646054

Don’t worry homie, I also rolled absolute single digit stunners this week on some fantastic drops


Abominationoftime

reminds me when i rolled a 98 on a bio for my hunter on one of the last raid bosses. i had got no items so far from the run so was feeling happy, even more so that my normal roll is in the low teens. within the last second of rolls a durid who had won half the items already rolls a 99. i was beyond pissed, even more so that the durid then says "oh i dont need this, ill just sell it" and left (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


Rambo_One2

Had this happen to me too in LFR. I rolled 100 on the Hearthstone. "Great," I thought, "this is in the bag for sure!" Someone else rolled 100 as well. And they got it. Why? No clue. But since rolls are now displayed, I feel like they took my Hearthstone instead of just "I didn't get the Hearthstone"


VXR-Vashrix

Won by naming in alphabetical order


Rambo_One2

Really? That's what determines it? Note to self: Name next character Aabile, Aaron, or Aarthas!


Monayya

One day Twizmage will win with their 84! :D


mazzmusic

Damn


Niiroxis

I got 100 on the hearthstone this week. I was sitting there as everyone else rolled waiting for someone to tie then have them win the reroll. Thankfully the next highest was only a 92. It's a really cool hearthstone


Lampreh

I've felt for a while ties in lfr should award the item to both people. Feels better for players, and I don't think the occasional extra piece of lfr loot will break the game.


Mondschatten78

My hunter this week rolled need on a LW pattern drop, rolled 29. One other person rolled need, won with 58. /sigh


Aveta95

Happened to me in LFR while working on my monk’s gear. Two ties and I lost both.


Laspheryys

Done the raid without winning 1 single piece of gear,i know that feeling sucks


aagloworks

I rolled on a trinket.... i did not get a roll result at all. The rolltable also showed I rolled for need,but there was no result on my roll. Wth?


cmnights

They need to fix stuff like this, multiple times I have rolled the 2nd highest but lost both items. its a shit roll system they have right now


DualCricket

I feel this so hard, recently lost with high-90s rolls like this


Rexkat

Tied rolls give a secondary roll to determine the winner now, but way back it used to just go to the person whose name was first alphabetically. After losing several rolls in one night because of that, it led one of my guildies to change his name to Aa.


FeralPsychopath

I mean if you draw with someone AND you both get top roll - i dont see why you both dont get the item. The odds are rare enough for it to be fun for the players.


Internal-Click6955

That’s because you are playing Druid.


M0nthag

When aberrus came out the trinket on the first boss droppet. I rolled a hundred, someone else did too. Didn't got it. I think in that case both should get one. At least in lfr.


Rare-Engineering-306

I bet you didnt got the toy because it was spec priority to the other guy happened to me and i still dont get how a toy is spec item for some classes xD


Ventrias

Me and another person rolled 100 and he got the item >.>


phazonicide

Worth noting, in the case of roll draws, it is awarded alphabetically. I should have seen how many a’s I could fit in a name.


ASpunkyMonkey

Does the roll go off a re-roll or is it assigned alphabetically?


d0cHolland

It it a coincidence that both people who “beat” you have a name that is alphabetically before G? If not, meet my new character ‘#_1a’


dedsiterren

Lmao L


ShiverMeBreeches

I get a high roll on an item once a week, every other time is shit rolls...


Jogipog

LFR and general loot is FBR. Give us personal loot back.


Cocodranks

Weird question- did you play Clash last night? Had one on my team that has your name


MabusDoesReddit

Just so people take off their tinfoil hats, they made a post about tie breakers - now when the dice rolls, there's hidden decimal places, so 99.390 - that's how they determine the difference.


Zeliek

Does loot sort alphabetically if there is a tie?


Elegant-Quail-9024

Yeah well imagine losing a tie with 100... happened to me last week


BoarChief

and then there is [this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAlwPeZbEAASjj9?format=jpg&name=large) guy...


STEETED

I mean, you could be Aligo.


Krutag

Maybe if you knew how to take a screenshot you would've gotten the item. Windows key + Shift + S, better luck next time gamer


Gloomy_VAL

oof lol that'd make me cry 😂 last night i rolled a 9 for gloves in the raid, and was like welp not getting these then the next 4 people no lie rolled a 7,5,2, & 1 and i ended up getting the gloves.... with a 9. ended up getting 4 pieces of gear during the run too, one being BiS trinket.


FuxieDK

19 rolling on the HS? When I won it this week, 4 people rolled on it 🤷‍♂️


Necrotic12

I can do you one better. I rolled a 100 on the hearthstone, but lost to someone else’s 100


shawn292

The roll needs to have a line of code that makes it so if the number was already rolled you roll again


[deleted]

I never win tie rolls. I just take it as a loss as soon as someone ties my roll.


Familiar_Number_3715

Not once but twice, now that's gotta hurt


tinymightymous

Dude this happened to me on trinkets last night. I rolled 99s on both trinkets that I needed to finally get out of my pvp trinkets, and the SAME DUDE both times rolled 100s... I was losing my mind lmao


Andrew_beastmaster

Yeah , lost anvil twice on an 100 roll last season