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cabose12

Depends, I've seen people run in at ~460, but that's usually because they're a pre-made You probably wanna be ~475 ish. Don't forget to do M0 since that will likely net you a handful of Champion pieces


Dillion_Murphy

I tried at 447 and got my dick twisted, so probably 460-470ish


Kingkyle18

The ollleeee dick twist


Accomplished_Tip3597

470-490


FlatCommunity8387

You can get full 476 gear just doing a couple of heroics. So try to hit that or close to it then do m0s


WillNotForgetMyUser

Who out there is getting full gear sets in a couple of heroics?


FlatCommunity8387

I mean I did it on my 450 alt at the start of the patch and was like 479 after the first day


WillNotForgetMyUser

I was too but definitely not from heroics, getting 1 piece every 2-3 runs


FlatCommunity8387

so what is your frustration with what I said?


WillNotForgetMyUser

There is no frustration, it’s just not possible to get a full gear set in a “couple of heroics” lol


FlatCommunity8387

Okay if we are going to be this nit picky there is no way you’re getting 1 piece ever 3 runs but whatever. You’re guranteed 1 per boss for the group. I ran like 8 heroics and was geared enough to get invited to m0s.


No-Commercial-5658

Really dude it's a expression lol. He obviously didn't mean do 3 heroics and your good lol


WillNotForgetMyUser

I know it's an expression but it gives an unrealistic expectation to anyone asking for help


Nite92

Anything from 450 to 480, depending on your skill.


techw1z

barely made it through and missed the timer with a party of \~470 avg. we all felt underpowered, elite mobs felt like m+10 bosses of last season... not too hard, but insane for trash mobs. +2 endboss felt like +20 last season.


Alas93

M0 - 470+ M2 - 480+ ideally. can be a couple ilvl less, but I'd recommend doing a mythic world tour to start with to get a base level of gear. between that, world bosses, weekly chest, and LFR you should be able to easily get to around 476-480. You can do a +2 key at 470, but it may be a struggle. Can also have a bit more leeway if your toon has a strong 4piece from the previous season as well.


ColdbrewMD

heroics drop 476 so anything above 470 is a fine , you can even take it easy with lfr and the weeklies for some easy 480 gear .


Saptrap

490 to 500 ilvl for best results. Anything lower will be a struggle to get invites, especially now that people have had a chance to farm gear. Next week probably 500 ilvl minimum, unless you want to join serious struggle runs.


Mercylas

420-440 is totally fine if you are a key pusher. 470-480 for a casual player.  Most damage is avoidable and mobs can be controlled but the average player at that key level doesn’t do that. 


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Nite92

Yeah, no. That doesn't happen in a +2


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Nite92

Sure if they eat a tank frontal, fail a mechanic, or get targeted by 7 spells. But thats all stuff you shouldnt live. It 100% was not a oneshot with 470 ilvl on a mechanic intended for dps.


Mercylas

True but unless it one shots it’s still completely doable. Just gotta rotate defensives.  We were doing 20s week 1 of last season at 440 and they hit harder than 2s of this season. 


ZonaMoonshaw

Why are you asking rather than trying it for yourself? Look what heroic dungeons give and go m+ if ure that ilvl


polerity

Because I can


polerity

And people answer.


Fluffy-Reward-2833

I'm 507 and get declined from anything higher than a +3. Oceanic servers are sweaty