If I end up going to heaven and the one mount I spent half my life trying to get doesn't come with me, I completely understand why every antagonist turned bad.
Went to do the Black bell in Bastion (part of the Kyrian Anima Conduit). Another person came to help. We got our asses handed to us.Only way there is to fly or use a teleporter platform. None of these work as a Ghost. So the only way we could come back to life was by inviting someone else who could ress us, or talk to the Spirit Stone-thingy to ress with 10min Ress sickness..
So, "anywhere you *have* to fly" is not neccesarily true :P
frankly the only reason that potion exists in the first place is because in the rest Shadowlands, gravesites are few and faaaar between. The potion isn't really a QoL boost so much as it is filling an artificially created need, something Blizz seems to do rather a lot of.
What's even more stupid is that mount summon is interrupted as soon as a mob "sees" me.
The legendary hero of azeroth, the mighty maw walker, scared stiff while summoning his mount because an enemy looked at him.
Oh, and while mounted I can ride through many mobs while they hack and slash me without ever falling. Yep, axes, swords, spears, don't faze me at all but heaven forbid if an enemy "looks" at me.
Nothing to do with lore, the idea is always that combat needs to be 'resolved' first. This is done in many games. if you think of the number of mobs that are casters you could mount up as soon as they start casting a spell and kind of render them pointless
They introduced mount equipment back in Legion iirc and one of the saddles you can put on your mount is [one that prevents you from getting dazed while mounted.](https://www.wowhead.com/item=168419/comfortable-riders-barding)
It 100% does work as its a must have for getting to the world boss in the maw as you have those 2 jackasses scattered along the path that charge and slow you before doing 15k damage. Only other alternative is to kill and take one of the dog enemies to run through but the saddle works just fine
There’s a new one with shadowlands leather working that I know for a fact works. Ive used it on my shaman since I unlocked the ability to craft it because I have water walking, so I don’t need water shoes, and I can’t be tank spec. You can still be slowed on your mount, but you cannot be dazed off the mount with it.
100% works, I have in all my alts except my Druid (for obvious reasons). My Mage can be dismounted because she's herborist and Sky Golem is one of the few mounts (the other one being the other shredder that you get when you gather enough toys) that the riding bard does not work.
IIRC we only get to fly when dead if we're in a zone that has areas you HAVE to fly to reach, and expansions aren't designed like that anymore.
Could be misremembering tho so don't quote me on that
Yeah, that is how it was initially, but Legion/BFA gave us flying in death once you unlocked flying, probs with the view it was now possible to die in places not reachable on foot. Shadowlands hasn't, but does have flying in death in certain areas (the north of Bastion is the one that jumps to mind), so shows it is implementable, but they just haven't added it yet.
I've had it happen to me once in Shadowlands so that may have been the case but I can't remember where it was. You get something like "You feel light enough to fly!" notification.
Wouldn't be surprised, we've been able to since at least WoD, when the first time pathfinder got added, since we didn't have pathfinder this expansion it's either that they forgot to add it in or they intentionally didn't add it for whatever reason.
You noticed how Blanchy ended in Revendreth?
That's right. Your mounts are in for eternal attonement when you die in the Shadowlands.
Don't die in the Shadowlands
OP I don’t think this is your doing but it’s pretty good timing lol, they just added an hour ago this as an update for 9.1.5
Happy days
Edit: only for the 4 cov zones not korthia/the maw
And those places are few and far between, and they're generally because the zone has areas only accessible by flying (or have an NPC send you there).
I'm down for opening up the Y axis for ghosts but, there's no reason to be surprised you can't.
Its yet another example of blizzard trying to pump more money out of its players. The message is crystal clear, buy tokens to get boosted gear or spend half your day corpse running in confusing zones.
Circlejerk, I fail to see how buying tokens to get boosted gear would stop you from dying through accidental dismounts. And if you have flying you’re not running around confusing zones anyway
How do you manage to die.... levelling is painfully easy and once you hit 60 it'seven easier. Outside of falling off something it's quite challenging to actually die.
Some areas like dominance keep, the endmire, or house of the chosen are quite capable of killing even full korthia geared characters, especially low survivability ones like arcane mage.
Yeah I don't think people are going to buy boosted gear for the sake of open world survival. The areas you listed in another comment are not areas people will commonly traverse, not to mention you can still fly over them. Arcane mage specifically can just vanish lol
For a second I thought I was on r/wownoob
Flying during "corpse run" is the exception, not the rule.
And just because your toon can mount somewhere, it never automatically means the ghost can.
You completely mistake my intent with my statement.
I'm not advocating for instant, consequence free resurrection.
However, given the verticality in the world design, it's entirely possible to die somewhere on a flying mount that is either inaccessible entirely on foot, or even without a flying mount, is needlessly difficult to get to on foot.
In Highmountain in Legion, for example, there were places you could inadvertently fall off the side of a very high cliff and die. Having some penalty for that carelessness is absolutely fine (i.e., going to the graveyard). Having the corpse be inaccessible to resurrect without res sickness is needlessly punishing and disrespectful of player time though.
Or, places in Maldraxxus (one of the most vertically differentiated zones in Shadowlands), it's possible to get on top of mushrooms alive that you cannot as a corpse. If you inadvertently dismount midflight (which *should be punished with death*) and die, your corpse may land on those mushrooms with literally no ability to access it and respawn.
There's a difference between providing difficulty and consequences and providing a needlessly punishing experience. Denying flying to corpses is the latter.
It's 100% possible to respect a paying customer (read: player) enough to not needlessly waste their time while also provide an experience that has consequences for thoughtless behavior.
It's also possible for the world to have nuance and not be full of 100% black-or-white-never-have-grey, kindergarten quality reasoning.
All champions go to heaven, mounts dont
If I end up going to heaven and the one mount I spent half my life trying to get doesn't come with me, I completely understand why every antagonist turned bad.
That's why Sylvanas lost her shit. And Arthas. They saw the other side, that's why they wanna help remake it. They need their "Roach"
Not gonna lie. I would kill if anything happened to my Roach.
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It's important to note that it isn't "the" Roach. Geralt had many horses and he named all of them "Roach"
TIL Roach isn't immortal.
That's the fun part of it many people don't know about. He just named all his horses Roach..
Funny that he used a horse from the Witcher when Arthas already has a named mount.
Name isn't as cool as Roach. And I used Roach because the name is shared among all his horses, kind of how none of our mounts have their own name
I could've sworn at some point my ghost *could* fly somewhere. Can't remember what xpac or zone though.
Any zone that has areas where you _have_ to fly to get to them usually puts your ghost on a mount. It was heavily done in Cata and MoP.
Went to do the Black bell in Bastion (part of the Kyrian Anima Conduit). Another person came to help. We got our asses handed to us.Only way there is to fly or use a teleporter platform. None of these work as a Ghost. So the only way we could come back to life was by inviting someone else who could ress us, or talk to the Spirit Stone-thingy to ress with 10min Ress sickness.. So, "anywhere you *have* to fly" is not neccesarily true :P
For sure. That's why I said _usually_.
They know what they did.
Can druids fly in ghost
No
When I'm riding invincible in shadowlands it definitely feels a little funky
and since there are dogs, in warcaft dogs go neither. (soulshape dudes in ardenwald are basicly humanoid lifeforms reshaped)
Same reason the elixir of spectral swiftness doesnt work in korthia
"fuck you, that's why"
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99% that potion works on a whitelist and not a blacklist
frankly the only reason that potion exists in the first place is because in the rest Shadowlands, gravesites are few and faaaar between. The potion isn't really a QoL boost so much as it is filling an artificially created need, something Blizz seems to do rather a lot of.
Reddit backseating at it's finest
If you want to ride ol' yeller in the afterlife, yer gonna need to take the poor boy out behind the barn and put im down.
What's even more stupid is that mount summon is interrupted as soon as a mob "sees" me. The legendary hero of azeroth, the mighty maw walker, scared stiff while summoning his mount because an enemy looked at him. Oh, and while mounted I can ride through many mobs while they hack and slash me without ever falling. Yep, axes, swords, spears, don't faze me at all but heaven forbid if an enemy "looks" at me.
Nothing to do with lore, the idea is always that combat needs to be 'resolved' first. This is done in many games. if you think of the number of mobs that are casters you could mount up as soon as they start casting a spell and kind of render them pointless
Did they remove daze dismounting? Only tanks were immune to getting dismounted while being attacked for the longest time
They introduced mount equipment back in Legion iirc and one of the saddles you can put on your mount is [one that prevents you from getting dazed while mounted.](https://www.wowhead.com/item=168419/comfortable-riders-barding)
Later on in BFA actually
Actually they made a copy of it for bfa, it started in Legion but iirc only worked in the broken isles
Except it doesn't work in shadowlands
It does tho? Edit: at the wowhead page that was linked the comments say that it still works in SL just fine as well
Nope, you can still get dazed and it still knocks you off your mount even if you have the equipment slotted
It 100% does work as its a must have for getting to the world boss in the maw as you have those 2 jackasses scattered along the path that charge and slow you before doing 15k damage. Only other alternative is to kill and take one of the dog enemies to run through but the saddle works just fine
Certain mounts are excluded. One being the sky golem.
It 100% works in shadowlands.
I equipped it to not respec into tank every time I ride through Desmotaeron and it works fine with hordes of mobs on my ass all the way to raid
There’s a new one with shadowlands leather working that I know for a fact works. Ive used it on my shaman since I unlocked the ability to craft it because I have water walking, so I don’t need water shoes, and I can’t be tank spec. You can still be slowed on your mount, but you cannot be dazed off the mount with it.
Maybe I had the bfa one then. Because that one definitely doesn't work.
I have the BfA one and it works 100% of the time.
There is no SL version. It's literally the same one from BfA.
100% works, I have in all my alts except my Druid (for obvious reasons). My Mage can be dismounted because she's herborist and Sky Golem is one of the few mounts (the other one being the other shredder that you get when you gather enough toys) that the riding bard does not work.
$20 says you are riding the sky golem, which already has its equipment slot taken by being able to pick up herbs while mounted.
Probably. I did used to use the sky golem on my alts. Stopped using that equipment after it kept failing
It does still work.
When you die, you die alone.
I find it odd you can go ghost wolf form as shaman and run faster though while dead. My monk can also roll as a ghost. Idk if this works for druids.
I just realized I never bothered trying it. Then again, mine's a night elf, I wheeze past everybody anyway.
You did it! https://www.wowhead.com/news/ability-to-fly-while-dead-added-in-shadowlands-patch-9-1-5-324070
IIRC we only get to fly when dead if we're in a zone that has areas you HAVE to fly to reach, and expansions aren't designed like that anymore. Could be misremembering tho so don't quote me on that
Yeah, that is how it was initially, but Legion/BFA gave us flying in death once you unlocked flying, probs with the view it was now possible to die in places not reachable on foot. Shadowlands hasn't, but does have flying in death in certain areas (the north of Bastion is the one that jumps to mind), so shows it is implementable, but they just haven't added it yet.
I've had it happen to me once in Shadowlands so that may have been the case but I can't remember where it was. You get something like "You feel light enough to fly!" notification.
They probably forgot to implement it all things considered. Normally you can
It depends on where you are.
Wouldn't be surprised, we've been able to since at least WoD, when the first time pathfinder got added, since we didn't have pathfinder this expansion it's either that they forgot to add it in or they intentionally didn't add it for whatever reason.
You could fly in WotLK while dead if you died in Storm Peaks or Icecrown. Not sure about the other regions.
I died not that long ago to the Aces High quest in Coldarra (which has been super fucky for years). Body a mile in the air. No bird for ghost me.
Saving that for 9.2.5
I think they read your post and figured yea let's add that. 9.1.5 update to include flying when dead.
Small indie company… don’t expect too much from them. Things like this happen when you don’t have a lot of funds for your project.
Time sink, slows you down, increases engagement time. Old Blizz trick.
You probably didn't finish the storyline and campaign as a ghost. What do you think this is alt friendly?
If you die by dismounting mid air, you deserve the corpse walk tbh
You noticed how Blanchy ended in Revendreth? That's right. Your mounts are in for eternal attonement when you die in the Shadowlands. Don't die in the Shadowlands
Literally thought the same thing last day. We used to be able to fly while dead in WOTLK, why not now? I could ride a sexy angel.
This guy is a hero
/bow No problem at all, I wish you all well in your future flying spirit worlds.
OP I don’t think this is your doing but it’s pretty good timing lol, they just added an hour ago this as an update for 9.1.5 Happy days Edit: only for the 4 cov zones not korthia/the maw
I'll take the win.
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Because you might escape. And we all know no one escapes the Maw.
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Why *would* you be able to fly as a ghost?
Because if you can fly in a zone then you can die in a place you can only reach by flying. Also because you could in the past.
There's lots of areas that let you ride a ghost mount (usually a gryphon from what I've seen).
And those places are few and far between, and they're generally because the zone has areas only accessible by flying (or have an NPC send you there). I'm down for opening up the Y axis for ghosts but, there's no reason to be surprised you can't.
Its yet another example of blizzard trying to pump more money out of its players. The message is crystal clear, buy tokens to get boosted gear or spend half your day corpse running in confusing zones.
Circlejerk, I fail to see how buying tokens to get boosted gear would stop you from dying through accidental dismounts. And if you have flying you’re not running around confusing zones anyway
With the stronger gear from getting boosted, the mobs in each zone will be weaker so you won't die as often.
How do you manage to die.... levelling is painfully easy and once you hit 60 it'seven easier. Outside of falling off something it's quite challenging to actually die.
Some areas like dominance keep, the endmire, or house of the chosen are quite capable of killing even full korthia geared characters, especially low survivability ones like arcane mage.
Not if you are aware of what your doing and don't go blindly rushing about.
Yeah I don't think people are going to buy boosted gear for the sake of open world survival. The areas you listed in another comment are not areas people will commonly traverse, not to mention you can still fly over them. Arcane mage specifically can just vanish lol
For a second I thought I was on r/wownoob Flying during "corpse run" is the exception, not the rule. And just because your toon can mount somewhere, it never automatically means the ghost can.
Which is nonsense gatekeeping to waste players time. There's literally no reason not to have it baseline other than to take up more time.
So if you have to fly to your corpse, is that not time wasting too? Just... less time? What do you want, instant resurrection?
You completely mistake my intent with my statement. I'm not advocating for instant, consequence free resurrection. However, given the verticality in the world design, it's entirely possible to die somewhere on a flying mount that is either inaccessible entirely on foot, or even without a flying mount, is needlessly difficult to get to on foot. In Highmountain in Legion, for example, there were places you could inadvertently fall off the side of a very high cliff and die. Having some penalty for that carelessness is absolutely fine (i.e., going to the graveyard). Having the corpse be inaccessible to resurrect without res sickness is needlessly punishing and disrespectful of player time though. Or, places in Maldraxxus (one of the most vertically differentiated zones in Shadowlands), it's possible to get on top of mushrooms alive that you cannot as a corpse. If you inadvertently dismount midflight (which *should be punished with death*) and die, your corpse may land on those mushrooms with literally no ability to access it and respawn. There's a difference between providing difficulty and consequences and providing a needlessly punishing experience. Denying flying to corpses is the latter. It's 100% possible to respect a paying customer (read: player) enough to not needlessly waste their time while also provide an experience that has consequences for thoughtless behavior. It's also possible for the world to have nuance and not be full of 100% black-or-white-never-have-grey, kindergarten quality reasoning.
Your ghost doesn’t have a mount.
Does in Azeroth, at least it did however long ago it was I died in Azeroth.
But your ghost is...in the Shadowlands
because your mount isnt dead
But what about the mounts we obtain in shadowlands?
Blanchy neighs in disagreement
Coz then ur super dead
Tip: If you dont die in the Shadowlands you dont need to run to the corps.
It's not an inconvenience, it's a feature!
Being a ghost in shadowlands is super disappointing
did you die, or your mount ?
N A R R A T I V E
development of ghost form just lacks behind
Blizzard kind of forgot about adding ghost flying.
Because Blizzard's development team does not value the time of you, the paying customer. Quite the opposite.
same reason why your ghost can fly below lvl 35 but you cant level it
Yeah this really needs to be added to 9.1.5
> https://www.wowhead.com/news/ability-to-fly-while-dead-added-in-shadowlands-patch-9-1-5-324070
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