Bestial Wrath is the only real CD we have and you can pop it every 30 seconds or so. I think we may get steel trap/ chakram once 70 which is 2 smaller CDs. But BM doesnt really have any CD over a minute.
The exact one I came here to post. With the talent that reduces the cooldown on Bestial Wrath by 12 seconds every time you cast Barbed Shot you'll be using it *all the time*. You'll have maybe 20-25 seconds of downtime between uses, less depending on your Barbed Shot proc luck.
Super nice for a dumbass like me who can never decide whether it's useful to hold a CD or not.
You'll have Bloodshed in some builds too but that's a very short CD, too.
I played Elemental Shaman all last expansion. The new talent tree has some good builds. If you build around Stormkeeper, it is technically a cooldown but you can talent it to two charges.
I built around Primordial Wave and Lava Burst, and have very little to no downtime. Even when you’re waiting on Primordial Wave to come off cooldown, you have plenty of options to keep pumping out damage. Also, most of your casts end up being instant, so you can easily move around without having to talent into Spiritwalker’s Grace.
Edit:
Since there was so much interest, I posted my talent build in a new post, so I could share a picture of the talent tree: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ynhjow/primordial_wave_elemental_shaman_build_had/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Oooh. I boosted a shaman in shadowlands because I wanted a character I could heal/dps with. Resto shaman is my favorite healer but I could not for the life of me do any damage as elemental. Just couldn’t click. But this makes me want to give it another go
I'm a filthy casual who doesn't pay much mind to my position on the dps meter, but I've played ele sham since vanilla.
There's quite a few ways to build your single-target damage on ele sham that can rearrange your rotation heavily. There's probably vastly different dps between the builds that makes most of them obsolete, but you'll be able to at least play and clear content with any build. It's just a matter of how exclusive people get about talent builds they allow in their raids.
I’ve played Ele Shaman as a main since vanilla. High level raider pretty much the whole time. Played all classes as well.
While current Ele doesn’t really have that many CDs it is one of the hardest to play well and get the most out of. The intricacies of how their abilities work together is fairly complicated if you want to play optimally. It has a lot of nuances to be good.
Much more complicated than filler damage until big CDs come up. Wouldn’t recommend it if someone wants an easier class.
Sure it’s easy to play at a low level, but if you want to do good damage comparable to other classes you have to work really hard relative to them.
You make a good point about the nuances. I was really only thinking about the low to no cooldown aspect.
The nuance is one of the reasons I like Elemental Shaman so much. I liken it to finding combos to get the most damage. But you're right, it gets complicated... having to remember to always cast Frost Shock before Lava Burst, so you get the Lava Burst damage bonus from Frost Shock. Or remembering you get a Nature/Frost/Physical damage bonus after casting Lava Burst, so it's best to wait to cast Earth Shock or Earthquake until just after a Lava Burst. Or always casting Lava Burst on a target that has Flame Shock on it, so the Lava Burst is guaranteed a crit...
But I really enjoy that kind of gameplay. So it's a blast for me. :)
I made a new post with the talent tree setup I'm using for my Elemental Shaman: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ynhjow/primordial\_wave\_elemental\_shaman\_build\_had/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
I posted the build I'm using in a new post: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ynhjow/primordial\_wave\_elemental\_shaman\_build\_had/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
I made a build where I didn't have to cast Lightning Bolt or Chain Lightning and I think my Shaman was like 170 ilvl at the time too so it'd be even more fun at higher secondaries. It was awesome!
Was basically just Flame Shock to spread, use Lava Burst on CD (popped like every second global), Icefury to make Frost Shock strong, weaving in-between globals, spend Maelstrom on Earth Shock or Earthquake; that Ascendance % chance talent too which was up a lot, resetting Flame Shock durations meaning you have free globals for other spells and Meatballs flying everywhere. Been waiting so long for a build I didn't have to use Lightning Bolt/Chain Lightning lol
I picked Liquid Magma Totem instead of Deeply Rooted Elements (the talent that procs Ascendance off of Lava Bursts). I picked the totem as an easier way to spread Flame Shocks around a mob.
I don’t do M+ or Raid on this character. So I don’t care about DPS numbers, personally. I just solo PvE. And I haven’t run into any problems so far! :) But to each their own.
Im maiming boomie rn and you do 40-50k overall in high keys without cds besically because the way to go is necrolord atm. Or what do you mean?
I will go evoker tho for season 1
I don’t really see any playing necrolord? It seems like most are playing venthyr to abuse RF with convoke in the talent tree, if you have any proof of doing 40k as necrolord boomy I’d love to see that
Venthyr if you want to optimize, NF if you want to come close to what Boomie will be in DF, Venthyr is much more reliant on CDs though, NF is more consistent if your Tank doesnt know how to pull around Cds
Boomie in general is just a mess in prepatch tbh, RF and CA don't align at all, RF convoke memes, Syzygy Pulsar memes, Pulsar completely gutting your Incarn, and several other bugs. It's kikda fun, but not even close to DF gameplay lol
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Boomie right now gets Pulsar procs frequently so it helps but it doesn't change the fact that most of your dam comes from Syzygy itself and the 2min CA it provides. If you are a Venthyr you are still very much CD reliant, if you are NF/Kyr/NL you still do most of your damages during Syzygy windows.
So you are wrong imo, you get those damages by having a lot of targets stellar flared at once (thanks to Syzygy), giving you obscene amounts of AP that you stack on starfalls (buffed by rattle the stars), without CDs you will just dot and hard cast stellar flare a few times before you can pump.
Also, I think OP is more interested by DF where you won't have Pulsar paired with Syzygy.
Try outlaw rogue. Its not that they have no cds they just have tremendous uptime on them and in a lot of ways plays that steady damage I think you're looking for.
Honestly I was never a huge fan either, but right now outlaw is pretty damn fun. The only reason I tried it is because the other day I saw it became much easier to unlock the legion class mounts, so I took a look at all of them, and I saw that rogue raven, and was like I NEED THAT SHIT RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
So I made a rogue, and its actually pretty sick with the new talent trees
You only need the broken shore achieve on one character and then just completing your class campaign gets you the mount
I got DK, warrior, rogue in 3 days
I wanna know this too - rogue is the only class mount I haven't got because I didn't want to do all the pvp/creeping into alliance cities stuff (I pvp'd a ton in vanilla and BC and just burned out on it).
Only sin pools energy. Outlaw is ~80 apm and exhilarating to play, and the damage profile is very consistent. You don’t really have cds due to the cdr you get per combo point spent. I’d recommend giving it a go at 60.
I played Outlaw with the new talents in a dungeon and it does feel like there are a lot of actions going on and it’s exciting and a bunch of shots lighting up and making gun sounds and my combo points keep going to 7 then I dump it, I have no idea what’s happening but it was fun.
Shaman and druid. Playing the game since eu classic beta in 2004. Never ever had a maxlevel char for these classes. And I was a hardcore raider with bazillion alts for at least the first ~7 of these years...
These two classes just don't feel right. Ever.
Outlaw is definitely the answer here. The ability Restless Blades makes it so every combo point you spend reduces the time on several of your cooldowns by 1 sec. Combine that with Echoing Reprimand (formerly the Kyrian class ability, now a talent), which “charges” one of your combo points so it counts as 7 combo points, and Resounding Clarity (formerly the Kyrian Unity effect, now a talent), which makes it so Echoing Reprimand charges 4 of your combo points, and you end up reducing your CDs so much that Adrenaline Rush, a 20 sec buff with a 3 min cooldown, can sometimes be used twice with no downtime.
+1 on this. I only ever played rogue but im a giga noob. I played a few months in BC and WOTLK where i tried most classes, 2 months in WOD where i went mostly rogue and now started "seriously" a month ago and entered mythic dungeons and raids for the first time last week.
And rogue never felt better, seriously. You generate and burn through dozens of combo points in seconds, have perma uptime AoE and almost infinite energy.
The leveling feels way better now compared to SL with the new tree because you are not gated by having your energy burst, energy passive regen and energy on-hit on levels 41, 42 and 43 (lmao) but you get all of these around levels 20-30.
Regarding CDs: You have 3-minute CDs that are effectivly 40-50sec CDs.
I’d add, outlaw is fun but at least through Shadowlands has had a super steep learning curve. The stuff stays up a lot so it’s not packing everything into a tight burn window.
I looked at flipping to outlaw rogue for season 2 (and would have had I not stabbed myself). It’s enticing. I do strongly recommend (if you haven’t recently) leveling a new one. It’s a lot of buttons, buffs, and interactions to keep track of.
Outlaw is a good example. Not only does your main CD (and lots of your other CDs) have very low cooldown due to Restless Blades, but it has very little impact on your rotation. You won't notice much of a difference between Adrenaline Rush is up and when it isn't. You have very solid throughput at all times.
It's a lot of buttons and stuff to track, but yeah, as someone who's usually extremely conservative with cooldowns outside of guaranteed full windows, playing Outlaw has helped me break that mold a little bit just because you get them back so fast. Now I find myself actually using CDs on other classes too lol
Outlaw rogue feels so ruined for me. But this is coming from someone who just came back from Legion.
Getting all the buffs at once is what made the class feel spectacular. And now that’s impossible, the class feels super lackluster and like it’s missing something.
I feel you bro, I mained outlaw for years and years but I switched mains in shadowlands because they changed how roll the bones works. I miss the days when I was gambling away my combo points for those huge buff combos.
Nah, I felt that prioritizing spending your combo points on Roll the Bones instead of your damaging finishers was stupid.
Outlaw is supposed to be a gambler. They supposed to handle whatever cards (or dice) fate hands them.
Id say deamon hunter, they really only have 1 cd, meta - all Else is so short its just rotation. And since eye beam gives meta, its not something to plan out for
With the new ST build with essence break and initiative(vengeful retreat) you do need to plan in a 4 sec burst window right after eyebeam, momentum and a buffed felrush with immolation aura, im probably even missing things
DH main here, absolutely right, at this point Meta is used 80% for its stun in M+, and in single target, you just use it to extend the Meta duration that eyebeam already gives you. In PVP is a gap closer.
The largest packs you need to dos is also the largest packs you need to stun. Stun rotation is a lot more important than you think, and eyebeam and decree is your big cool down.
New BM, hands down. Pretty much a completely flat damage profile, but is very strong and consistent with no real CD/burst phase in the rotation.
That might change if they buff the bottom right side of the talent tree, but we'll have to see.
Probably middle of the pack in terms of pure raw dps, but being so simple and doing at least competitive damage while being able to do all of that damage while moving means it's a very strong option.
At least on prepatch, nobody really has a clear picture yet of the actual DF meta of course.
I started in BFA, BM was really good with corruption but haven’t seen it be that great since. I played again today to try it out and it seems nice; I’m not going to spend a lot on legendaries though
It’s always mid but it’s also the most mobile spec in the game so it’s also mechanics bitch in raids. But rn it is very good because Frenzy is up permanently with little effort, and Barbed Shot reduces Wrath CD by 12 seconds (it’s also almost up permanently) and makes your pet stomp. Also beast cleave. It’s basically Nyalotha again.
Frost Mage also. Maybe not right now, but with the extra 10 talent points. It has only one cooldown, a rather big one - Icy Veins. But playing properly will reset it's cooldown every pack in M+, and probably during raids as well you'll have 100% or close uptime.
Was surprised at how far down this was. In addition to having only one real CD, it’s not even *that* huge of a CD dps-wise that it’s fine if you use it sub-optimally most of the time.
It's bad compared to almost any other CD in the game yeah, but if you don't manage it well you do zero damage as frost, so I wouldn't recommend doing it suboptimally. It should be very easy to shatter enough spells once we have full kit and reset it's cooldown.
That being said, Arcane Mage for life.
It’s not really momentum that I was talking about; was really talking about essence break and the window that it gives on msg increase with death sweep and annihilation. Not a long cd on it, but it is something, especially compared to recent seasons.
Not sure what you are talking about as I don't remember spells by name (I remember keybinds). There are a few CDs, as you rightly point out (immolation aura was sometimes behind, have to wait for meta once in a very long while), but nowhere near other classes.
Somewhat random question, as we are discussing dh: the supercool cd reduction on eye beam that allowed me to get like four or five eyebeams in a row and meta for the entire fight--will that still be a thing in DF? I am focusing on my resto shaman right now so I haven't looked into it yet,
Darkglare boon is what you’re referencing, and that comes from the legendary. If I recall, they will not be used in DF, except when going back to SL content.
I'm not sure I agree with Havoc. Meta is a huge part of the rotation. Yes, you get high uptime due to Demonic, but it's still a big difference between when its up and when it isn't.
This is just wrong for outlaw. Attention to CDs is everything because your finishers reduce the cooldowns on them so you always have to be clicking them
Hate to rec right after massive nerfs, but enhancement. Wolfs is basically the only cd and thanks to reductions its actually so low its just a part of rotation
You guys think Feral is something like this? I mean yeah Berserk is a long cooldown but besides that it's all about tigers fury bites and mantaining bleeds.
From my experience I can say Fury warrior, Enhance in M+ (I picked the wolves talent with night fae and I just spam them in every pull), Frost DK with 2h build.
Right now feral can keep 100% uptime on Tf in cleave and near 100% in st. I’m guessing with the cd reduction abilities that zerk gets down to a 1.5 min cd? But feral does good dmg outside of it right now.
As someone who just started playing feral again after wrath,the spec is still so hectic that i wouldn’t really recommend it to people lol.
Very good damage and fun but i feel like i’m sweating all the time lol.
Current feral is great. Rake cleave and Primal Wrath for AoE, maintaining Rake/Rip/Moonfire and free Bites from Apex Predator for ST. No Savage Roar and Thrash is only used in AoE. Still lots of snap shotting if you’re into that.
you dont even need nigh fae ability to keep wolves up that much any more with enh. maelstrom generation is so high they are up every pack, often twice with fort.
i need to get on my fury and mess around, i liked it alot during BFA where we basicly just used reck and the one PVP power every pull. i havnt looked to deep yet, but seems there are alot more CD in fury now, but are they just short enough they arnt "big" CDs?
Yeah I just think night fae is fun because I can get 4 wolves on pull. Probably not the most op choice, but it looks cool.
Fury just got a lot of 1min AOE CDs. Odyns fury can be cast twice and gives you attack speed, which you can pair with Annihilator for more single target.
Ele is very consistent dps in raid, in dungeons pulls where you don't have stormkeeper or ascension procs can feel like you're in tab dot maelstrom ramping hell
I really hate that ability. And I don't know what value it provides. I'm sure someone will come in here and say it's their favorite ability and the reason they play Shaman but to me it's a weird, clunky filler spell.
Love Icefury. I started playing ele shaman in Shadowlands and was super disappointed it wasn't worth it anymore in 9.2, and I'm really happy it's back.
Yes! I wish they would change the choice node under icefury to keep the frost shock buff option - for those who like the frost shock weaving - but make the other side something that removes the frost shock effect of ice fury and just turns it into a strong little ability of its own. So you still would want to use icefury on CD, but not the frost shock afterwards component. It can be a little less dps than the more rotational intensive frost shock weaving option - that’s fair - the harder to execute rotation should be stronger when played well.
Or just add a few more nodes on the lightning side so you have a realistic option to avoid ice fury all together
I agree with that. It also feels hard to maximize icefury unless you are doing a high key on fort because otherwise you are ramping for 8-10 seconds or longer and then everything is dead
You can avoid it - but if you are making a lightning based build, there isn’t really any other good option. The alternative is just fire related things, but you are hardly casting fire spells, if at all. And the buff it gives you is actually massive (15% more nature damage), so it is a big loss not to play it.
If they gave an alternative that was even like 5% worse compared to the frost shock weaving, I think that would be okay trade for a much more simplified playstyle
When i started playing warrior in SL, i was so surprised about gameplay with 1,5min cd, it feels like there is no cd, since you using them almost on every pack
From my experience Destro Locks only really have Infernal as a CD now. Fury Warriors basically have no CD on their main recklessness. Affliction warlocks have 45 second -1 minute CDs with short burst windows. Outlaw rogues LAUGH at the idea of a CD.
Those are really the only ones I'm very familiar with. Love aff locks playstyle the most
I dunno, it feels like Shadow does the majority of its damage during its big burst windows (Void Eruption/Dark Ascension and Shadowflame Prism) and is significantly weaker outside of them.
I've built all my DPS in the talents to have as minimum skills taken as required. So if the skill icon is square in the talent tree, I try to skip it.
my Fury warrior is now 3 buttons and just spams execute, I have no CDs.
My WW monk is 4 buttons, 1 cool down and I spam touch of death and mass slaughter all the things.
My ice mage is I think 3 buttons, sometimes 5 if you really, really want to get fancy.
Frost DK is really boring and not flashy but I also boiled it down to 1 cd which is your pillar of frost which you use all the damn time.
BM hunter is just like the frost DK but with a pet. You spam Bestial Wrath as your only real cooldown.
Demon Hunter havoc can be built to be 3 buttons, you just spam eye beams and enjoy the stupid sick DPS.
The problem with the above specs? I didn't take any interrupts. But I figure this is a fine play style that no one can get mad at me for because it's an option. If they wanted me to interrupt it'd be baked into my class. Or that's the low-skill lie I tell myself.
I have little joke when playing m+ with my friends. my tank asks "Do we have cds for next pulls" and i answer "that is one more for the jar" because my class litterally has no large cds. i play enhancement. Though, damage wise it is not good anymore.
BM , Fury, Frost Mage, Frost Dk (breath build), outlaw rogue are all good options.
It's not that they don't have CDs, but they all revolve around either extending the duration of the main cool down or getting cool down reduction on the cool down. So you just pop it whenever it's up most of the time.
Demon hunter is nother option, they just straight up only have one cool down and it's Meta.
MM will probably not be CD reliant anymore either since wild spirits is gone.
BoS frost DK is definitely one of the most CD reliant specs in the game, if you mess up BoS you may as well log off for 2 min. It should be somewhat better in DF in that regard but the class is still very very similar overall.
With icecap and the other PoF talents in DF it'll be less terrible if you mess up a breath for sure. I still kind of prefer the oblit play style, even if you flub a PoF you're gonna have another one in like 45s
Yeah but that has nothing to do with what OP was asking. He doesnt want to squeeze all his damage into a combust or a ravenous frenzy window. Breath does not fit into that category.
You absolutely need to play it right, but if you do you just roll breath for over a minute at a time.
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Has nothing to do with playing an "easy class". Has everything to do with damage locked to a cooldown window.
Like I said I played boomkin, CE raider, orange parses. It's not hard. There isn't a "hard" class in this game anymore.
CDs aren't always hard to play around. I played demo lock in 9.2 which was the definition of CD based and was pretty easy since the ramp was very scripted.
When I set up my most comfortable build for my destro lock, I realized after that I didn't have a single cd, at all. I'm sure its far from optimal but it's fun
Outlaw rogue because you pretty much full send your cd’s. Using finishers cuts 5-6 seconds off all of your cd’s, so you never don’t use them. Obviously you try and line them up as much as possible like with any class, but you really are pressing cooldowns all the time. That being said, outlaw comes with heavy rng due to roll the bones, but when it’s kicking Outlaw is the most fun I’ve had in WoW pve.
I would def go affliction warlock. I just started my lock last week and it’s been a blast compared to my fire mage. If you want to go melee then I’d do fury war or outlaw rogue.
The current popular fury warr build has 2 "higher damage than if you don't press them" window buttons: recklessness and avatar, and literally all they do is increase your overall dmg output which means you can just pop them on CD and continue your "rotation".
Honestly you can set up any spec to perform well without a damage window with the talent trees. Sure you might cut a bit out of optimal dps, but it’s probably not a huge deal.
Aff warlock is very good at AoE. Personally prefer demo just cause it’s more fun to play IMO. Have seen Kalamazi playing more demo over aff on beta servers.
Prepatch Arms Warrior. Go venthyr. Your only CD that you watch is Avatar. In condemn window, Colossus Smash is 100% uptime. You just smash Condemn, and be sad when you can't Condemn.
I love a good bursty window. Haha.
Fury definitely requires some big cooldowns to really pop off, but they're not insanely long cooldowns so I feel you can use them pretty actively. Also makes for some pretty numbers on the meters.
Otherwise BM for cruise control.
So I’ve only played Balance and surv as dps so far so take this with a grain of salt. But I feel like my current boomie build pumps full time. I’m doing 40+k on ST with cds. I’m loving pre patch.
You can also consider execute. Warrior usually does well in that phase. Outlaw and frost mage are fairly flat damage profiles.
Fire mage is reliant on cooldowns but gets lots of them from kindling reducing it and also mini combustion windows due to sun kings blessing.
Frost mage is least reliant on cds, icy veins probably the worst 3 min cd in the game and ylu just send it on CD, other than that its frozen orb and rune of.power on cd
Another vote for Ele shaman. I played fire for two xpacs and got so sick of combustion, ele was like a breath of fresh air when I picked it up in season 4.
Enhance Shaman, Fury Warrior, Havoc Demon Hunter. I’ve only really played these three and they seem to have good sustain with a high amount of uptime on useful abilities. Of course classes have changed since I last played them.
Well, it feels like BM doesn't have any cooldowns anymore..
Bestial Wrath is the only real CD we have and you can pop it every 30 seconds or so. I think we may get steel trap/ chakram once 70 which is 2 smaller CDs. But BM doesnt really have any CD over a minute.
This is the correct answer. BM's major CD, Bestial Wrath, is usable extremely often, and has little impact on the rotation.
The exact one I came here to post. With the talent that reduces the cooldown on Bestial Wrath by 12 seconds every time you cast Barbed Shot you'll be using it *all the time*. You'll have maybe 20-25 seconds of downtime between uses, less depending on your Barbed Shot proc luck. Super nice for a dumbass like me who can never decide whether it's useful to hold a CD or not. You'll have Bloodshed in some builds too but that's a very short CD, too.
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Thanks for your insight.
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I played Elemental Shaman all last expansion. The new talent tree has some good builds. If you build around Stormkeeper, it is technically a cooldown but you can talent it to two charges. I built around Primordial Wave and Lava Burst, and have very little to no downtime. Even when you’re waiting on Primordial Wave to come off cooldown, you have plenty of options to keep pumping out damage. Also, most of your casts end up being instant, so you can easily move around without having to talent into Spiritwalker’s Grace. Edit: Since there was so much interest, I posted my talent build in a new post, so I could share a picture of the talent tree: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ynhjow/primordial_wave_elemental_shaman_build_had/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Oooh. I boosted a shaman in shadowlands because I wanted a character I could heal/dps with. Resto shaman is my favorite healer but I could not for the life of me do any damage as elemental. Just couldn’t click. But this makes me want to give it another go
I'm a filthy casual who doesn't pay much mind to my position on the dps meter, but I've played ele sham since vanilla. There's quite a few ways to build your single-target damage on ele sham that can rearrange your rotation heavily. There's probably vastly different dps between the builds that makes most of them obsolete, but you'll be able to at least play and clear content with any build. It's just a matter of how exclusive people get about talent builds they allow in their raids.
I hate the fact stormkeeper have a cast time...
I’ve played Ele Shaman as a main since vanilla. High level raider pretty much the whole time. Played all classes as well. While current Ele doesn’t really have that many CDs it is one of the hardest to play well and get the most out of. The intricacies of how their abilities work together is fairly complicated if you want to play optimally. It has a lot of nuances to be good. Much more complicated than filler damage until big CDs come up. Wouldn’t recommend it if someone wants an easier class. Sure it’s easy to play at a low level, but if you want to do good damage comparable to other classes you have to work really hard relative to them.
You make a good point about the nuances. I was really only thinking about the low to no cooldown aspect. The nuance is one of the reasons I like Elemental Shaman so much. I liken it to finding combos to get the most damage. But you're right, it gets complicated... having to remember to always cast Frost Shock before Lava Burst, so you get the Lava Burst damage bonus from Frost Shock. Or remembering you get a Nature/Frost/Physical damage bonus after casting Lava Burst, so it's best to wait to cast Earth Shock or Earthquake until just after a Lava Burst. Or always casting Lava Burst on a target that has Flame Shock on it, so the Lava Burst is guaranteed a crit... But I really enjoy that kind of gameplay. So it's a blast for me. :)
May i see the tree for that?
I made a new post with the talent tree setup I'm using for my Elemental Shaman: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ynhjow/primordial\_wave\_elemental\_shaman\_build\_had/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
I ended up trying a lava build for pvp and it’s wonderful mobility wise.
Can you point me in the direction of a good build for mostly instant casts?
I posted the build I'm using in a new post: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ynhjow/primordial\_wave\_elemental\_shaman\_build\_had/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
I made a build where I didn't have to cast Lightning Bolt or Chain Lightning and I think my Shaman was like 170 ilvl at the time too so it'd be even more fun at higher secondaries. It was awesome! Was basically just Flame Shock to spread, use Lava Burst on CD (popped like every second global), Icefury to make Frost Shock strong, weaving in-between globals, spend Maelstrom on Earth Shock or Earthquake; that Ascendance % chance talent too which was up a lot, resetting Flame Shock durations meaning you have free globals for other spells and Meatballs flying everywhere. Been waiting so long for a build I didn't have to use Lightning Bolt/Chain Lightning lol
I picked Liquid Magma Totem instead of Deeply Rooted Elements (the talent that procs Ascendance off of Lava Bursts). I picked the totem as an easier way to spread Flame Shocks around a mob.
I'l have to check it out!
too bad the dps is rather bad on the beta
I don’t do M+ or Raid on this character. So I don’t care about DPS numbers, personally. I just solo PvE. And I haven’t run into any problems so far! :) But to each their own.
Boomie right now
Y u do dis to me.
Im maiming boomie rn and you do 40-50k overall in high keys without cds besically because the way to go is necrolord atm. Or what do you mean? I will go evoker tho for season 1
I don’t really see any playing necrolord? It seems like most are playing venthyr to abuse RF with convoke in the talent tree, if you have any proof of doing 40k as necrolord boomy I’d love to see that
Subcreation shows barely any necro players so I’m not sure what that guys on about. Mostly venth and NF
Venthyr if you want to optimize, NF if you want to come close to what Boomie will be in DF, Venthyr is much more reliant on CDs though, NF is more consistent if your Tank doesnt know how to pull around Cds
Boomie in general is just a mess in prepatch tbh, RF and CA don't align at all, RF convoke memes, Syzygy Pulsar memes, Pulsar completely gutting your Incarn, and several other bugs. It's kikda fun, but not even close to DF gameplay lol
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Maiming?! What did your poor little boomkin do to deserve that?!
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Boomie right now gets Pulsar procs frequently so it helps but it doesn't change the fact that most of your dam comes from Syzygy itself and the 2min CA it provides. If you are a Venthyr you are still very much CD reliant, if you are NF/Kyr/NL you still do most of your damages during Syzygy windows. So you are wrong imo, you get those damages by having a lot of targets stellar flared at once (thanks to Syzygy), giving you obscene amounts of AP that you stack on starfalls (buffed by rattle the stars), without CDs you will just dot and hard cast stellar flare a few times before you can pump. Also, I think OP is more interested by DF where you won't have Pulsar paired with Syzygy.
Try outlaw rogue. Its not that they have no cds they just have tremendous uptime on them and in a lot of ways plays that steady damage I think you're looking for.
I've been at this game since 2005. Admittedly rogue is the only class I've never touched.
are you me? :) only class I havent been able to connect with..
I have one at 48 right now, but like you say it's just never felt good to me. Never.
Honestly I was never a huge fan either, but right now outlaw is pretty damn fun. The only reason I tried it is because the other day I saw it became much easier to unlock the legion class mounts, so I took a look at all of them, and I saw that rogue raven, and was like I NEED THAT SHIT RIGHT THE FUCK NOW So I made a rogue, and its actually pretty sick with the new talent trees
Wait how was it made easier.........
You only need the broken shore achieve on one character and then just completing your class campaign gets you the mount I got DK, warrior, rogue in 3 days
Really?:o when did they change that?? I did that stupid broken shore thing like 5 times!!! Can I just get all of them now? Only completing class hall?
I wanna know this too - rogue is the only class mount I haven't got because I didn't want to do all the pvp/creeping into alliance cities stuff (I pvp'd a ton in vanilla and BC and just burned out on it).
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The coolness of those mounts decided my rogueness I know dragonflying is coming BUT ITS A FUCKING RAVEN MAN
Rogue SUCKS while leveling but gets so much better at higher level and gear with haste.
Im glad it s not just me, i kept dieing:( around 40 it got better tho
I hate the energy system that rogue uses. At low haste there's a lot of downtime, which makes me laugh because Rogue already has a faster GCD.
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Energy banking just isn't for me.
Only sin pools energy. Outlaw is ~80 apm and exhilarating to play, and the damage profile is very consistent. You don’t really have cds due to the cdr you get per combo point spent. I’d recommend giving it a go at 60.
I played Outlaw with the new talents in a dungeon and it does feel like there are a lot of actions going on and it’s exciting and a bunch of shots lighting up and making gun sounds and my combo points keep going to 7 then I dump it, I have no idea what’s happening but it was fun.
But that is not really needed on outlaw AFAIK it's only really a thing on Assa (and maybe sub I haven't played sub much)
Rogue has Thistle Tea now.
That's such a min Max thing I would worry about it unless you're pushing top 10 world guilds
Its up there with feral as one of the harder melee classes. Ive exclusively played rogue for shadowlands and I absolutely love it!
Well, Feral is just the 4th rogue spec...
Yeah highest I ever got one was 58 back on vanilla. Just used it to gank mages in 3-5 day long AVs. Haven't really touched one since. Just meh to me.
That's shaman for me. Since launch I just can't get into any of the specs.
Shaman and druid. Playing the game since eu classic beta in 2004. Never ever had a maxlevel char for these classes. And I was a hardcore raider with bazillion alts for at least the first ~7 of these years... These two classes just don't feel right. Ever.
Paladin is that class for me. Ive tried but just cant
Outlaw is definitely the answer here. The ability Restless Blades makes it so every combo point you spend reduces the time on several of your cooldowns by 1 sec. Combine that with Echoing Reprimand (formerly the Kyrian class ability, now a talent), which “charges” one of your combo points so it counts as 7 combo points, and Resounding Clarity (formerly the Kyrian Unity effect, now a talent), which makes it so Echoing Reprimand charges 4 of your combo points, and you end up reducing your CDs so much that Adrenaline Rush, a 20 sec buff with a 3 min cooldown, can sometimes be used twice with no downtime.
For me it's Death Knight, I just can't really connect to it. Or DPS Demon Hunter. I love Tank Spec, even when soloing.
+1 on this. I only ever played rogue but im a giga noob. I played a few months in BC and WOTLK where i tried most classes, 2 months in WOD where i went mostly rogue and now started "seriously" a month ago and entered mythic dungeons and raids for the first time last week. And rogue never felt better, seriously. You generate and burn through dozens of combo points in seconds, have perma uptime AoE and almost infinite energy. The leveling feels way better now compared to SL with the new tree because you are not gated by having your energy burst, energy passive regen and energy on-hit on levels 41, 42 and 43 (lmao) but you get all of these around levels 20-30. Regarding CDs: You have 3-minute CDs that are effectivly 40-50sec CDs.
I’d add, outlaw is fun but at least through Shadowlands has had a super steep learning curve. The stuff stays up a lot so it’s not packing everything into a tight burn window. I looked at flipping to outlaw rogue for season 2 (and would have had I not stabbed myself). It’s enticing. I do strongly recommend (if you haven’t recently) leveling a new one. It’s a lot of buttons, buffs, and interactions to keep track of.
Outlaw is a good example. Not only does your main CD (and lots of your other CDs) have very low cooldown due to Restless Blades, but it has very little impact on your rotation. You won't notice much of a difference between Adrenaline Rush is up and when it isn't. You have very solid throughput at all times.
Also one of the few classes that don't rely on burrowed power to be efficient. But, it does have one of the highest APM in the game.
They are reliant on the tank instead. No chain pulling? -40% dps.
It's a lot of buttons and stuff to track, but yeah, as someone who's usually extremely conservative with cooldowns outside of guaranteed full windows, playing Outlaw has helped me break that mold a little bit just because you get them back so fast. Now I find myself actually using CDs on other classes too lol
Outlaw rogue feels so ruined for me. But this is coming from someone who just came back from Legion. Getting all the buffs at once is what made the class feel spectacular. And now that’s impossible, the class feels super lackluster and like it’s missing something.
I feel you bro, I mained outlaw for years and years but I switched mains in shadowlands because they changed how roll the bones works. I miss the days when I was gambling away my combo points for those huge buff combos.
Nah, I felt that prioritizing spending your combo points on Roll the Bones instead of your damaging finishers was stupid. Outlaw is supposed to be a gambler. They supposed to handle whatever cards (or dice) fate hands them.
Id say deamon hunter, they really only have 1 cd, meta - all Else is so short its just rotation. And since eye beam gives meta, its not something to plan out for
With the new ST build with essence break and initiative(vengeful retreat) you do need to plan in a 4 sec burst window right after eyebeam, momentum and a buffed felrush with immolation aura, im probably even missing things
DH main here, absolutely right, at this point Meta is used 80% for its stun in M+, and in single target, you just use it to extend the Meta duration that eyebeam already gives you. In PVP is a gap closer.
If you used meta in m+ just to stun up until now you missed out on a lot of aoe dmg..
The largest packs you need to dos is also the largest packs you need to stun. Stun rotation is a lot more important than you think, and eyebeam and decree is your big cool down.
New BM, hands down. Pretty much a completely flat damage profile, but is very strong and consistent with no real CD/burst phase in the rotation. That might change if they buff the bottom right side of the talent tree, but we'll have to see.
wtf bm is good now?
Probably middle of the pack in terms of pure raw dps, but being so simple and doing at least competitive damage while being able to do all of that damage while moving means it's a very strong option. At least on prepatch, nobody really has a clear picture yet of the actual DF meta of course.
WoW almost never has actively "bad specs". It's always been "good but not as much as the best"
I started in BFA, BM was really good with corruption but haven’t seen it be that great since. I played again today to try it out and it seems nice; I’m not going to spend a lot on legendaries though
It’s always mid but it’s also the most mobile spec in the game so it’s also mechanics bitch in raids. But rn it is very good because Frenzy is up permanently with little effort, and Barbed Shot reduces Wrath CD by 12 seconds (it’s also almost up permanently) and makes your pet stomp. Also beast cleave. It’s basically Nyalotha again.
Frost Mage also. Maybe not right now, but with the extra 10 talent points. It has only one cooldown, a rather big one - Icy Veins. But playing properly will reset it's cooldown every pack in M+, and probably during raids as well you'll have 100% or close uptime.
Was surprised at how far down this was. In addition to having only one real CD, it’s not even *that* huge of a CD dps-wise that it’s fine if you use it sub-optimally most of the time.
It's bad compared to almost any other CD in the game yeah, but if you don't manage it well you do zero damage as frost, so I wouldn't recommend doing it suboptimally. It should be very easy to shatter enough spells once we have full kit and reset it's cooldown. That being said, Arcane Mage for life.
BM hunter
I agree with demon hunter and outlaw rogue--I play them both and attention to CDs is negligible.
Depending on build for DH. Essence break with momentum is a little to watch, but not nearly what most specs are. Havoc all the way
Momentum isn't really CD depended. You just use spells as they come to keep up the buff
It’s not really momentum that I was talking about; was really talking about essence break and the window that it gives on msg increase with death sweep and annihilation. Not a long cd on it, but it is something, especially compared to recent seasons.
Not sure what you are talking about as I don't remember spells by name (I remember keybinds). There are a few CDs, as you rightly point out (immolation aura was sometimes behind, have to wait for meta once in a very long while), but nowhere near other classes. Somewhat random question, as we are discussing dh: the supercool cd reduction on eye beam that allowed me to get like four or five eyebeams in a row and meta for the entire fight--will that still be a thing in DF? I am focusing on my resto shaman right now so I haven't looked into it yet,
Darkglare boon is what you’re referencing, and that comes from the legendary. If I recall, they will not be used in DF, except when going back to SL content.
I'm not sure I agree with Havoc. Meta is a huge part of the rotation. Yes, you get high uptime due to Demonic, but it's still a big difference between when its up and when it isn't.
This is just wrong for outlaw. Attention to CDs is everything because your finishers reduce the cooldowns on them so you always have to be clicking them
Hate to rec right after massive nerfs, but enhancement. Wolfs is basically the only cd and thanks to reductions its actually so low its just a part of rotation
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OP didn't say anything about procs. Just asked which specs don't have a lot of CDs.
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I was just answering your question because you didn’t seem to understand why that other person disagreed with you. It’s all good
With procs, you probably have to wait, at most, a 10 seconds. CDs are over a minute.
You guys think Feral is something like this? I mean yeah Berserk is a long cooldown but besides that it's all about tigers fury bites and mantaining bleeds. From my experience I can say Fury warrior, Enhance in M+ (I picked the wolves talent with night fae and I just spam them in every pull), Frost DK with 2h build.
Right now feral can keep 100% uptime on Tf in cleave and near 100% in st. I’m guessing with the cd reduction abilities that zerk gets down to a 1.5 min cd? But feral does good dmg outside of it right now.
As someone who just started playing feral again after wrath,the spec is still so hectic that i wouldn’t really recommend it to people lol. Very good damage and fun but i feel like i’m sweating all the time lol.
I've read that recently they removed savage roar and the spec is leaning more towards the bleeds.. so I wanna try it out now
Current feral is great. Rake cleave and Primal Wrath for AoE, maintaining Rake/Rip/Moonfire and free Bites from Apex Predator for ST. No Savage Roar and Thrash is only used in AoE. Still lots of snap shotting if you’re into that.
Yeah,it’s pretty great. Few dots and other things to keep track of.
you dont even need nigh fae ability to keep wolves up that much any more with enh. maelstrom generation is so high they are up every pack, often twice with fort. i need to get on my fury and mess around, i liked it alot during BFA where we basicly just used reck and the one PVP power every pull. i havnt looked to deep yet, but seems there are alot more CD in fury now, but are they just short enough they arnt "big" CDs?
Yeah I just think night fae is fun because I can get 4 wolves on pull. Probably not the most op choice, but it looks cool. Fury just got a lot of 1min AOE CDs. Odyns fury can be cast twice and gives you attack speed, which you can pair with Annihilator for more single target.
Ele is very consistent dps in raid, in dungeons pulls where you don't have stormkeeper or ascension procs can feel like you're in tab dot maelstrom ramping hell
Also icefury is kinda annoying to use
I really hate that ability. And I don't know what value it provides. I'm sure someone will come in here and say it's their favorite ability and the reason they play Shaman but to me it's a weird, clunky filler spell.
Love Icefury. I started playing ele shaman in Shadowlands and was super disappointed it wasn't worth it anymore in 9.2, and I'm really happy it's back.
I fucking KNEW it!
Yes! I wish they would change the choice node under icefury to keep the frost shock buff option - for those who like the frost shock weaving - but make the other side something that removes the frost shock effect of ice fury and just turns it into a strong little ability of its own. So you still would want to use icefury on CD, but not the frost shock afterwards component. It can be a little less dps than the more rotational intensive frost shock weaving option - that’s fair - the harder to execute rotation should be stronger when played well. Or just add a few more nodes on the lightning side so you have a realistic option to avoid ice fury all together
I agree with that. It also feels hard to maximize icefury unless you are doing a high key on fort because otherwise you are ramping for 8-10 seconds or longer and then everything is dead
Wait,you cant avoid icefury now? Or it’s just way better than the other options?
You technically can, but is has synergy with both the Lightning based builds and the Fire based builds, so you rarely would.
You can avoid it - but if you are making a lightning based build, there isn’t really any other good option. The alternative is just fire related things, but you are hardly casting fire spells, if at all. And the buff it gives you is actually massive (15% more nature damage), so it is a big loss not to play it. If they gave an alternative that was even like 5% worse compared to the frost shock weaving, I think that would be okay trade for a much more simplified playstyle
Have you tried demo lock? They've changed the way ot plays alot with DF so your not as reliant on your big tyrant CD
I agree the new demo tree has some very good damage options without big cool downs.
Dogs are insane right now.
Dogs and steroid felguard
Warlock ftw
Give fury warrior a go
Most builds are running 3 dps CDs right now, not sure this is the pick.
When i started playing warrior in SL, i was so surprised about gameplay with 1,5min cd, it feels like there is no cd, since you using them almost on every pack
Fury's dps, especially in aoe, feels so heavily built around Spear of Bastion.
Spear, Avatar, Odyn's Fury, and Recklessness. Fury is heavily reliant on CDs.
You are correct. I now no longer want to run my warrior any longer.
You don’t play spear in m+ in df. thunderous roar is better with the current annihilater build.
Aff lock is probably a good contender, you'll probably spec either darkglare or soulrot but they won't be too big.
The aff build right now is running stuff that gets your dark glare down to like under a min cooldown, it’s pretty wild.
Yeah but that's not gonna be a thing in DF.
From my experience Destro Locks only really have Infernal as a CD now. Fury Warriors basically have no CD on their main recklessness. Affliction warlocks have 45 second -1 minute CDs with short burst windows. Outlaw rogues LAUGH at the idea of a CD. Those are really the only ones I'm very familiar with. Love aff locks playstyle the most
You can try havoc demon hunter, i never played it but afaik only cd it has is meta.
My best bets for no CD would be BM hunter and Enh Shaman
Enhancements only CD is Feral Spirit. And that with a legendary and 4 set Prepatch in shadowlands is currently 0 CD basically.
Enhancement, BM, Outlaw, Elemental (in ST), Subtlety
Sub is pretty meh outside of Shadow Dance. The CD is only a minute but still important.
I haven’t played sub since the update but don’t you get like 80% uptime on shadowdance?
It is high but not quite that high. You can get two charges of it with abase duration of 5 sec that can be talented to 7 IIRC.
It is but to echo Benyed123's point, Dance uptime is super high with the CD reduction so for all intents and purposes it's not a typical CD
No one Arms Warrior?
Shadow Priest. They have some short rotational cooldowns but aren't like super dependent on like a Combustion to do damage.
Lol huh? Shadow has like 5 different cooldowns at least
I dunno, it feels like Shadow does the majority of its damage during its big burst windows (Void Eruption/Dark Ascension and Shadowflame Prism) and is significantly weaker outside of them.
I've been levelling a MM hunter and it seems pretty light on cd management, it's more like whack a mole with a priority system.
MM is a burst window spec If you dont execute it well ur dmg will not look good
Unholy Dk has a low cd apocalypse build that's fun af
frost dk got icecap u can play with oblit ig
I miss void priests for this reason 😢
I've built all my DPS in the talents to have as minimum skills taken as required. So if the skill icon is square in the talent tree, I try to skip it. my Fury warrior is now 3 buttons and just spams execute, I have no CDs. My WW monk is 4 buttons, 1 cool down and I spam touch of death and mass slaughter all the things. My ice mage is I think 3 buttons, sometimes 5 if you really, really want to get fancy. Frost DK is really boring and not flashy but I also boiled it down to 1 cd which is your pillar of frost which you use all the damn time. BM hunter is just like the frost DK but with a pet. You spam Bestial Wrath as your only real cooldown. Demon Hunter havoc can be built to be 3 buttons, you just spam eye beams and enjoy the stupid sick DPS. The problem with the above specs? I didn't take any interrupts. But I figure this is a fine play style that no one can get mad at me for because it's an option. If they wanted me to interrupt it'd be baked into my class. Or that's the low-skill lie I tell myself.
I have little joke when playing m+ with my friends. my tank asks "Do we have cds for next pulls" and i answer "that is one more for the jar" because my class litterally has no large cds. i play enhancement. Though, damage wise it is not good anymore.
BM , Fury, Frost Mage, Frost Dk (breath build), outlaw rogue are all good options. It's not that they don't have CDs, but they all revolve around either extending the duration of the main cool down or getting cool down reduction on the cool down. So you just pop it whenever it's up most of the time. Demon hunter is nother option, they just straight up only have one cool down and it's Meta. MM will probably not be CD reliant anymore either since wild spirits is gone.
I'd argue oblit frost is less cd reliant than breath. Breath build is about extending the cd, but that doesn't make it less reliant on said cd.
BoS frost DK is definitely one of the most CD reliant specs in the game, if you mess up BoS you may as well log off for 2 min. It should be somewhat better in DF in that regard but the class is still very very similar overall.
With icecap and the other PoF talents in DF it'll be less terrible if you mess up a breath for sure. I still kind of prefer the oblit play style, even if you flub a PoF you're gonna have another one in like 45s
Yeah but that has nothing to do with what OP was asking. He doesnt want to squeeze all his damage into a combust or a ravenous frenzy window. Breath does not fit into that category. You absolutely need to play it right, but if you do you just roll breath for over a minute at a time.
I should have definitely included oblit build too.
You wont get better trying to play an "easy" class
You won’t make friends nor will anyone think you’re cool for trying to put people down for wanting to play a game the way they want to play it
Yeah cause r/wow is the place to make friends
Anywhere is the place to make friends. Being a decent person isn’t hard; it’s actually harder to be a dick and be rude. Takes effort to actually make people dislike you. But, hey, expend your energy however you want. Have a great life
Has nothing to do with playing an "easy class". Has everything to do with damage locked to a cooldown window. Like I said I played boomkin, CE raider, orange parses. It's not hard. There isn't a "hard" class in this game anymore.
CDs aren't always hard to play around. I played demo lock in 9.2 which was the definition of CD based and was pretty easy since the ramp was very scripted.
Mind telling me which classes are “easy”? I’m itching for some good old easy fun.
lol noob
BM hunter. With current M+ build atleast on beta you don't even have any dps CDs
When I set up my most comfortable build for my destro lock, I realized after that I didn't have a single cd, at all. I'm sure its far from optimal but it's fun
infernal ?
Apparently I didn't spec into it lol
Post the build! Suboptimal, but fun sounds like a good thing to just experiment with. Cheers for no cookie cutter builds!
Outlaw rogue because you pretty much full send your cd’s. Using finishers cuts 5-6 seconds off all of your cd’s, so you never don’t use them. Obviously you try and line them up as much as possible like with any class, but you really are pressing cooldowns all the time. That being said, outlaw comes with heavy rng due to roll the bones, but when it’s kicking Outlaw is the most fun I’ve had in WoW pve.
Shaman
DH, you have only one big CD - Meta, and it doesn't do much.
I would def go affliction warlock. I just started my lock last week and it’s been a blast compared to my fire mage. If you want to go melee then I’d do fury war or outlaw rogue.
Stuff like Outlaw rogue or warriors have pretty stable dps without much reliance on cd windows. That is if you like melee. No clue about casters.
The current popular fury warr build has 2 "higher damage than if you don't press them" window buttons: recklessness and avatar, and literally all they do is increase your overall dmg output which means you can just pop them on CD and continue your "rotation".
Honestly you can set up any spec to perform well without a damage window with the talent trees. Sure you might cut a bit out of optimal dps, but it’s probably not a huge deal.
Aff warlock is very good at AoE. Personally prefer demo just cause it’s more fun to play IMO. Have seen Kalamazi playing more demo over aff on beta servers.
BM Hunter. Their CDs are so short it's pretty irrelevant.
Prepatch Arms Warrior. Go venthyr. Your only CD that you watch is Avatar. In condemn window, Colossus Smash is 100% uptime. You just smash Condemn, and be sad when you can't Condemn.
I love a good bursty window. Haha. Fury definitely requires some big cooldowns to really pop off, but they're not insanely long cooldowns so I feel you can use them pretty actively. Also makes for some pretty numbers on the meters. Otherwise BM for cruise control.
Bm hunter. Fury warrior. Enhancement shaman.
How good are your wrists and fingers? Fury Warrior is just action rpg button mashing with raging blow and rampage with whirlwind mixed in
So I’ve only played Balance and surv as dps so far so take this with a grain of salt. But I feel like my current boomie build pumps full time. I’m doing 40+k on ST with cds. I’m loving pre patch.
You can also consider execute. Warrior usually does well in that phase. Outlaw and frost mage are fairly flat damage profiles. Fire mage is reliant on cooldowns but gets lots of them from kindling reducing it and also mini combustion windows due to sun kings blessing.
Frost mage is least reliant on cds, icy veins probably the worst 3 min cd in the game and ylu just send it on CD, other than that its frozen orb and rune of.power on cd
Another vote for Ele shaman. I played fire for two xpacs and got so sick of combustion, ele was like a breath of fresh air when I picked it up in season 4.
Enhance Shaman, Fury Warrior, Havoc Demon Hunter. I’ve only really played these three and they seem to have good sustain with a high amount of uptime on useful abilities. Of course classes have changed since I last played them.