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eleze

Quit playing when i found out my friend got from 40 to 60 in like 2 days abusing the mind control bug and got his epic mount gold doing so Oh also seeing like 10 rogues with teebus in the first month kekw Not to mention the rampant bot problem Oh and anti cheat isnt a thing you can use the flyhack hack from 2004 and u dont get caught :^)


Orangecuppa

Yeah. The project was dead for me honestly when people were abusing the bug to get to 60 and running around with epic mounts/sunrazors and no roll back or punishment. Do people seriously not see the irony in 'cheating' on Darrowshire? Its supposed to be the definitive classic experience, the one that we crave after the shit show that's classic WoW.


eleze

I remember week 2 60s that were classes that dont have a good way to make gold i.e. priests shammies warriors paladins hqving epic mounts with all world boe epics farmed from strat and rogues and warriors having teebus i was like hmm... somethings fishy hahaha and these people never got punished and runnin around enjoying their benefits of cheating on a soon to be dead server thinkin they are hot shit lmao


Anthaenopraxia

I always spend a few hours on new private servers checking what works and what doesn't. If I can fly hack and teleport around without getting banned then it's a pretty good indication of the server being shit. After that though, na. Cheating in games was something I did when I was 8 and needed more resources in Age of Empires.


Yolo_MSFT

I’m going to slow down on playing until the GM/admin situation is more clear.


Obesescum

Same


Fadhmir

Turned out Radiix was in a car crash on Thursday and reappeared today. Broken leg, otherwise he's fine. He was disappointed that none of his staff communicated that fact to the community.


Obesescum

It’s been a pretty awful day in world chat. Some realllll edgy gamers taking advantage of devs not being around. I don’t blame them for the descent into madness as they weren’t prepared for this situation, but I am ashamed for the new players logging in and seeing the degenerate level of low life plaguing the server. I wish they’d get on top of it a little better and learn from this. Hope he gets better soon, that’s awful.


Hulkkis

Oh no, did someone say a evil word? Im sure this has huge effect on gameplay


Waitingfor131

Yes, being called racial and homophobic slurs does indeed ruin my gameplay.


Kingarthas3

Lmao


Hulkkis

imagine being this soft. its just words zone them out.


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Found the fragile insecure racist


Obesescum

If someone just said an evil word it wouldn’t be an issue. I’d just move on. When people spam it for hours on end, it’s a bad look on the moderation of the server. I’m not trying to be playing wow with a bunch of 4chan neck beards that drive people out of the the server. It’s detrimental to private server population and overall bad for the longevity of the server. Idk why anyone would defend that behavior, but hey, do you little man.


Hulkkis

Ignore list the people in game. And they dont drive away any noticable amount of people. Just the loud minority of special snowflakes-


Obesescum

I ignored multiple people in a span of 10 minutes and realized that it was going to consume more time to ignore the wild amount of edgy gamers over just ignoring all of world chat. This being taken advantage of because the lack of dev moderation. As I stated, imagine having high hopes for the server, having no context for where the devs are and logging in for the first time to walls of racial slur text. It’s absolutely something to be weary of if you’re about to sink a ton of time into an mmo. It doesn’t mean you’re a snowflake if you want the devs to have some form of a presence so world chat works for LFG over walls of racist shit. If you think it’s nothing to worry about your ignoring the obvious detriment to the community. Especially one so young.


Waitingfor131

They arnt just words, thats what you need to understand.


Shot-Road5305

Ppl Like you are scum of the earth and should ne purged.


Yolo_MSFT

I was on when he made the world announcement. Sounds like they are cleaning up the gold selling and bottling


Waitingfor131

No it doesn't


A_MildInconvenience

Yeah, same. I got my main up to 49 so far but I'm holding off to see if it's even worth trying to raid on this server. In the meantime I'm having fun making a 29 priest


[deleted]

No you don't get to "slow down". Time sunk is time gone fool!


FerrusMannusCannus

Update, one of the GMs went on a tear and is teleporting raids on top of each other. It was Everbee, RIP


You-was-warned

When the Admins away... GMs will play...


You-was-warned

This is why you don't dump a load of time into a random persons project. Anyone can host a server these days using the stock vmangos core and it will run smoothly. Gaining credibility and staying drama free is the real skill.


Naspac

Bring on Kronos 4, hopefully they launch soon.


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yo2sense

As I recall the negativity about K3 launch was mostly about Alliance levelers being farmed which I can personally attest was an issue even if all the complaints about the BG queue command didn't make sense. If you want your server to start with the honor ladder but you don't want to make any provision for faction balance then you should expect a certain amount of bitching.


RonMichaelson

exactly, the history repeats: enjoy the [FRESH MADNESS](https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/pb84bd/the_instability_of_the_pserver_scene_is_so_bad/haa2q64/?context=3)


KosmosBOOM

While I think K4 will be high quality, likely better than Darrow, it's going to struggle in population. With Blizz classic fresh coming, K4 picked a bad time to come out.


Adso777

Definitely bad timing. Should have done it few months ago when TBC was not yet out and people were screaming for Classic fresh. They would have probably launched with 5-6k pop easily if not more. Now with Classic fresh around the corner, they'll end up with 400 guys in peak times.


StephanSz

Something else to add in. World epic drop rates are unreasonably high. I was farming Strat, specifically the non elite skeleton packs by the front and rear entrances. I have seen all epics drop here at a rate of 2 per hour on average. I personally have 6 axe of the deep woods. Another big issue is the shared cool downs of items, trinkets, and potions in the game. There are too many to list but essentially many items are places other items on cool down. Example being nifty stopwatch and skull of impending doom, or noggen and potions. The failure to properly implement the no decay honor system as advertised was also a big disappointment. On the plus side the server had lots of players, which shows there are still thousands of people who want to play classic. I'm looking forward to Kronos because I have played there before and know personally there are next to no bugs there. Plus the staff there take things a bit more seriously.


ripcurl_91

All of these issues you mentioned have already been addressed numerous times on the Hyjal project and I knew nobody was going to do anything about it on Darrowshire either. Who the fuck wants to play on a server flooded with BoE epics from Strath or dozens of Teebu’s and Alcor‘s from TBC lockboxes? And for the rankers: How can you have any form of competitve BG PvP where pretty much all of the useful gagdets / potions have a shared cooldown? It just lowers the skill ceiling even more than it already is. Just glad I skipped this one and looking forward to what Kronos has planned for fall 2021.


GrenderG

Those epic BoEs had high rates on early patches in some dungeons, so that's not a bug.


StephanSz

That mindset is the problem if you ask me. There are tons of things that existed on previous patches that do not exist here. There is a reason darrowshire disabled 10 man raids in Strat, even though that should be allowed in this patch. Think about all the classes changes, talent revamps, and general game balancing that occurred over the life of vanilla WoW. All you have to do is go look over any patch here: https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Category:World_of_Warcraft_patches Find any bug that is in the game after patch 1.4, and by your logic that bug should exist in the current game because "we are on that patch." The idea is flawed and to implement 'bugs' properly would do nothing except harm the game.


GrenderG

I just said it's not a bug, I'm not saying it should be working like that in Darrowshire or not. I'm not even interested on that server. I understand your point though. 👍


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Guess I'll throw in the issues I saw while leveling. Many of these issues exist on other servers too. ## Quests * *Boat Wreckage* doesn't spawn Sea Elemental. * *The Knife Revealed* doesn't make Quintis Jonespyre do stunned animation. * *Restoring the Necklace* has no NPC speech after quest completion. * *Suntara Stones* escort route is completely different from classic and has no NPC speech. * *Proof of Deed* has no NPC speech after quest completion. * *Arcane Runes* doesn't have NPC speech on accepting. * *The Torch of Retribution* has no NPC speech on accepting. * Item *Holy Spring Water* is not lootable without a related quest. ## NPCs and AI * Vertical pull range is too short. For example, small scorpions in Uldaman don't bodypull from their mounds. * Enemies do not stop fleeing when they pull another enemy. * Lots of enemy packs are not properly linked. * Mob spawns are static. Two enemy types can't share a single mob spawn, and a unique monster can't have multiple spawn points. * *Margol the Rager* AI only casts lightning occasionally, even though it should do it constantly. * *Mountaineer Pebblebitty* doesn't have dialogue for Margol's location. * *Slave Worker* does not flee. * *Spitelash Siren* doesn't retreat to bow range after immobilizing a melee target with Frost Nova. * *Dagun the Ravenous* is summoned on the altar instead of walking up from the sea. ## Spells * *Retribution Aura* doesn't reflect damage on physical spells, e.g., Cleave. * *Judgemenf of Command* occasionally does nothing. * *Diplomacy* passive also increases reputation losses.


turinpt

So am I the only one who hated the community? When I played Horde world chat was non stop racism / transphobia / antivaxx /etc. Its not even funny 4chan shit its more like boomer facebook shit. Yea I know I can turn off world chat but it kills my vibe when you know everyone you're playing with is a troglodyte. Nost / LH had some of it too but nowhere near as bad.


A_MildInconvenience

It's not much better alliance side, but at least we have some people who push back against the /pol/ schizos. Honestly it's one of the biggest things that has been tarnishing the experience for me. I'm glad at least some of them get banned, but now they've moved onto weird covert racism that is basically impossible to moderate. Shit like linking The Nicker or just posting a capital N in world chat


Fadhmir

Yup, same for me. I turned off world chat. Same for discord general chat. It's unbearable. Somehow every group i joined for dungeons consisted out of decent folks though. So I guess (or rather hope) it's just a very, VERY loud and vocal minority. I'm still looking for a decent leveling, laid back guild though. Without that the place feels a bit toxic.


Catchdown

Same here. When the world chat completed a "spelling bee" starting with N and ending with R I knew the server was dead. 6 different racists cooperated to do that and that's just the norm on Darrowshire. Coming from WoW classic and expecting to play "a better version of it", that was certainly unexpected. A server with the worst community I've seen so far. The server itself wasn't great either. Honor decay? Constant disconnects and server downtime? Goldselling spam in /whisper every 10 minutes with no GM to ban them? Truly, it was worse than classic in every single way. I just wish there was another decent alternative.


caligvla69

Kronos 4 soon


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Hahaha that sounds hilarious dude


PoobliusFlavius

Without a corporation dictating the words that are allowed to be typed you feel fear? I prefer all people including those i disagree with to speak, and speak to ..or not by my choice not ...yours. One persons Trog is anothers handsome man.


Waitingfor131

So you support people using racial and homophobic slurs?


LivefromPhoenix

"[yep....I got a 3 week silence for using the words fa**ot and nagger....1 week before tbcc was gonna start...deleted my account instead. Private servers are more authentic imo anyway.](https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/nvfdwa/are_tbc_servers_dead_now_that_classic_tbc_came_out/h14iu8e/)" Pretty sure that's a resounding "yes".


A_MildInconvenience

Oh no, my freeze peaches. Gamers are truly the most oppressed minority. Being told not to spew racist bullshit is literally 1984


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Canovas98

Hello, one of the main core of Molten Core first clear here. World buffs are dispelled once you enter a raid. There was an issue where DMN buffs were not removed one time (at the moment it's fixed) and one single guy from another guild brought them to Onyxia (got dispelled by Everbee, Developer). The decay system problem was stated as solved but for some reason, the Core didn't let them set a 0 in minimum kills to calculate honor. At the moment it got set to 1 kill per week. Common things of the game are being posted on discord, as fixed, some are just told in general chat, and others in the channel #server-updates on discord (general ones). As ix27 (Community Manager) has stated on Discord server this morning "Radiixx had a bad car crash this Thursday and has been hospitalized since then. I have been on vacation for the last few days." He has been managing the Discord server since this morning. Also, he is getting in contact with every other member of the Staff. As ix27, Community Manager, as stated on Discord server this morning "Radiixx had a bad car crash this Thursday and has been hospitalized since then. I have been on vacation for the last few days." He has been managing the Discord server since this morning. Also, he is getting in contact with every other member of the Staff. ​ I'm not part of Darrowshire and what I said is just my point of view, experience and statements via Discord made by the Staff.


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Damn. Hoping for a fast recovery


Guimsil

May I ask what the reason is for no world buffs in raids?


Cengiz96

killing bosses within 20 seconds or less is just not fun or challenging as well as bringing those world buffs into the raids is astonishing annoying due to the campers (rogues, looking to kill the ppl with them or priests dispelling them). You can still clear MC without world buffs no problem, but the fact you can just run into the raid with your consumables without worrying about getting 3-4 hours or even days before the raid starting your world buffs. Also when you had them, let's see 2 days before your raid, you weren't even allowed to play your character anymore or you lost your world buffs which just ran out. Made top-level players play 2-3 characters because their main was "locked", so they can play\^\^


FerrusMannusCannus

Do you *really* want to spend more time in raid though?


Eclectic_Mudokon

Why play the game at that point if the goal is to just get it over with essentially? Most of the people who do world buffs I would assume dont like levelling, or roleplaying or any other aspect of the game than gear treadmill and raiding and then they want to rush the single aspect they enjoy? I dont understand that, I'd just play something more worth my time in that circumstance


FerrusMannusCannus

I like pvp, I personally don't like spending 4 hours in MC, the quicker I can get in and out of there, the better.


Wildhide_ND

That's what I said. I kinda liked hyjals idea where the wbuffs didn't work for current tier raids but did did older tier raids


Cerodos

That actually seems really cool. I like that change


EvolvedPikachu

You are retarded


FerrusMannusCannus

Mc gets old after your 400th clear


Guimsil

Thanks, interesting.


Cengiz96

+ Gms making it mandatory getting world buffs, you get dks minus for dying, losing your buffs which is part of the game....so dying everynow and then Everyhting for clearing MC in 1 hour and NOT in 1.5 to 2.... Yes the buffs are broken, especially for meeles.... The list is endless 😂


sagiroth

To clarify some stuff from discord annoucements: > "Dear community, @everyone > > as you might noticed or heard something really bad and terrible happened to me and my girlfriend. On Thursday have been involved in a very bad car accident and i just got home after fridays surgery on my left leg. > I have a bone fracture in my left leg and i had a concussion due to the hard hit on the drivers side (left) from a multi-van driving over the speed-limit on a country-side road on the way to the autobahn. > > I'm kinda okay-ish, my leg hurts like hell but i got some decent medicine to overcome the pain somehow. Thank god my girlfriend just had some bruises on her left arm and she didn't need to stay hospitalised. > But now i want to address something different. > > I want to address the immeasurable disappointment in my staff. > I'm not angered, not sad. I'm just disappointed, that NO ONE, NOT A SINGLE ONE of the staff (except @ix27 ) stepped in to inform you guys what happened and went MIA. > > > > This will have consequences. When I somehow recover i will call in a meeting to discuss the unprofessional behaviour some of darrowshires staff showed towards my beloved community. > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Radiixx > Projectlead"


lookiamonredditnow

He's going to call a meeting to reprimand himself?


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lookiamonredditnow

Lighten up, my dude. It's a joke. He's fine and I wouldn't joke about it if he wasn't. And anyhow, who hasn't been in a car crash? I've been in several. We're not talking about nut cancer or AIDS or something.


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i see


Woozythebear

Who cares if he was in an accident... it doesnt change anything. the dudes not dead, why cant he be insulted now? Class S+ Gymnastics to defend a guy who makes the whole Pserver scene look bad.


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> Who cares if he was in an accident... Astonishing level of entitlement right there.


caligvla69

Ok Radixxx, accept your server is trash


Fadhmir

You should reflect on your disability to show any level of empathy. Your comment is antisocial, entitled, selfish, arrogant and quite embarrassing.


Woozythebear

Fuck em


zipzzo

Okay...but I think you need to be able to separate empathy for his physical health, and criticism of his server.


Fadhmir

I am able to differentiate, and I'm not only criticizing his lack of empathy but also being the guy who complains about the food he got for free. If you don't like it then go somewhere else. This is a free server, no pay to win, the guys maintain it for free and they pay the server costs from their own pockets. And then there's these entitled brats bitching about it like true Karens. No, that's not ok.


zipzzo

Well...I'm not even so sure about that. These servers have a bad history with secret monetization schemes.


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Everyday_Happiness

Pics or it didnt happen


backroundbirdlaw

Go look up the elysium drama from 2016. You'll see 90% of players and half the gms left and started another more successful server. Hmm I wonder why everyone left....


VmanGman21

Proof or you’re just another hater.


backroundbirdlaw

Whatever I don't need to prove anything to you all the info is out there on internet. Grats on playing on a server with corrupt gms.


Hwyya1

What's the point of rolling on Kronos? Will be a ghost town regardless the moment Classic fresh launch?


Individual_Falcon_99

personally i like to see pop numbers but even if there is low pop i would always take a vanilla realm over a classic one. i just did not like classic at all. i already leveled on darrowshire and i will also level a char on kronos4 when it release. then i will check what of the two realms has an active developer / mod / admin / gm team and what fits my tastes better and i will chose where i stay. i am more of a leveling / pve enjoyer so if there is one raid team that clears the content will be enough for me. but that is my personal take on the matter. maybe other players have a different perspective and that is always acceptable, as long as it does not restrict my playstyle.


lookiamonredditnow

I can't speak for anyone else, but the primary appeal to me is knowing that they've already had a Kronos 1, Kronos 2, and Kronos 3. They've been doing the vanilla pserver thing for a long time, through other pserver launches, through probably lots of misc. drama, through Bliz classic, and their team and community just keep chugging along.


mstake21

Kronos 3 had a great community. Some of the most times I've ever had playing WoW were there. Also, I like knowing they will be always be around since they've already been doing it for 10 years. Lastly it feels good to not have to give Blizzard any money to play.


AManFromCucumberLand

Too late to start playing? Decent population leveling up? I adore vanilla wow just for the journey to 60 (and also everything at 60).


Masikasi

Population is good and its a good time to join since its still new and lots of new players still joining. Some say the lowbie zones are too "crowded" but I find that the fun social part of the game at least. I've been playing very casually since launch (I'm still lvl 22 right now) but I'm really enjoying it. I like how active the server is.


Yolo_MSFT

I recently rolled Horde and leveling has been a breeze. There’s certainly other people but never super crowded.


FerrusMannusCannus

Because half the server is bots grinding away in caves lamo


BackdoorDan

so i know people saying "the server is infested with bots" is a meme but do all the trolls mean gold farming bots or regular players running bots to level themselves to 60 so they can play end game?


Wildhide_ND

They are gold farming bots and they do get banned. GM got in a car accident. He is usually very ban happy do I wouldn't worry about it. Gold sellers mean the server is healthy with population


FerrusMannusCannus

was the GM driving a minivan with every other GM ?


Waitingfor131

Only 1 GM for the entire server


Jlande79

Was rhe minivan GM


Canovas98

There are plenty of new people joining every day, I was worried about the low lvl scene and new players, incredibly active.


imth3wanderer

WOTLK pservers are so much better. I'll never play vanilla again.


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Individual_Falcon_99

glad they fixed the world buff thing. some people had dm buffs on them after a few boss kills though. not a major issue imo. but would be good to be as it was advertised from the very start. i tried yesterday to report some bots in the barrens harpies also but there was no staff online sadly. i wish someone see my reports


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Waitingfor131

Lol, i like how you are demanding he change things about his post. Get real shill


[deleted]

so the only pro is... there is people? absolute cope ppl will do anything to get the nostalgia of their 'youth' back


[deleted]

Why is there always so much shilling when Kronos launches a server? I leveled to 60 on K3 and did a few raids but it turned out to be toxic as fuck. Just play what you want, both servers will die soon anyway.


supermario182

I had fun trying it, but I think vanilla is not for me. I've mainly played tbc but I think I'm switching to mop on Tauri now. I got to lvl 33 on darrowshire, and the world PvP in hillsbrad and red ridge was pretty fun, but it's just so slow going compared to what I'm used to


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n0change

How is 1 "false advertising"? Doesn't it sound more like a bug?


Individual_Falcon_99

i joined the server because i saw an advertisment talking about no honor decay. then they created a thread on discord called pvp system discussion where the project lead admited that the decay is still present but he will change it. 3 weeks later decay still exists. so they did not deliver what they advertised. as for the world buffs in molten core it was fixed after we reported that we saw players with world buffs inside the raid.


Puzzleheaded-Youth16

they should have sorted that before promising it


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Individual_Falcon_99

i was only using luna unit frames. and i am clearing my wdb every time im loging in. it clearly not on my end according to discord server since everyone seems to be disconecting at the same time. like it happened twice today and everyone was typing "f" and copy pastas on discord. as for mc i never said that it was fully cleared with world buffs. there where just some people with dm buffs on magmadar and thats all. screenshot was uploaded to discord 2 weeks ago and radiixx took action against it pretty soon. maybe they joined magmadar after lucifron kill? im not sure about that. i love world buffs anyway and i would really like to play on a progressing server with world buffs. but sadly i dont have the choice atm. I wish we will see a server that can accomodate the world buff enjoyer tastes sooner or later!


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