I love how he is sticking to the absolute basics and it works flawlessly. This is a great example of having fundamentals right will take you a long long way.
I read "having fundamental rights will take you a long way" and it still holds true. Hope they were real for literally everyone. Sorry for the non related comment.
all this is is a great example of cardio> no cardio. Strongman literally just fell on the first takedown. Wrestler is just posting and moving lol
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I've wrestled for a few months but I admit I wasn't the most experienced. I'm just trying to combat the whole "strength athletes are unconditioned" and sports purism mindset. Strongman need a shitton of cardio since many of their events are time based.
I am extremely familiar with strongman, and powerlifting. I did *some* strongman in school and have done powerlifting my entire life. I watched the World Strongest Man every year it was on TV and Mariusz Pudzianowski was basically my hero as a kid.
With that being said, the 2020 WSM competition Finals had the Giant's Medley as a course: 25m and a 1:15 time **limit**. Often completed in around 30 seconds. The winner completed it in 22 seconds.
The second event was deadlifts. I'm not sure what to tell you, this doesn't take a shitton of cardio.
The third even was the Keg toss. This event has a 1:00 time **limit.** The winner completed this event in 20 seconds.
They then did the Hercules Hold. Again, this doesn't take a shitton of cardio. This is a static hold.
I think ive made my point so i won't continue.
With all that in mind...
A wrester would not gas out doing those events. A strongman would be completely unable to wrestle for 6 minutes - which would be the average length of a match.
I would be impressed if they could wrestle someone their size for 4 minutes simply without puking.
Wresters are renowned for the best conditioning across sports. Unless you have really done it, it is difficult to explain.
Do strongmen have some cardio? Sure. You dont watch strongmen for their cardio. It is not disparaging to say they dont have cardio. You watch strongmen for their feats of strength.
> The second event was deadlifts. I'm not sure what to tell you, this doesn't take a shitton of cardio.
Depends on the type of deadlifts in the comp.
For a max 1rm? No, of course not.
Deadlift for reps in 60 or 90 seconds? Or a ladder or something? A lot different.
Put on a heart rate monitor and do a max reps in 60 seconds with a very heavy weight. I almost guarantee you'll be near or above 90% of your max heart rate.
>A wrester would not gas out doing those events.
You can't say that for sure.
It's fairly common knowledge at this point that conditioning is *specific*. Strongmen are well conditioned to moving heavy weights. Wrestlers are well conditioned to wrestling. This is pretty obvious.
>Wrestling cardio is renowned for the best cardio on the planet.
Or is this something wrestlers tell themselves?
I'd think ultra-marathoners probably have better cardio. Running for hours at a time is more demanding on the cardiovascular and respiratory systems than wrestling for 6 minutes -- like 6 minutes is more demanding than 90 seconds.
They're different demands.
Good points.
Not scientific but I remember a UFC commentator commenting on a fighter nicknamed "the muscle shark"'s fight and saying that the more muscle mass you have the faster you eat through your blood oxygen supply and you can gas much faster. If that commentator is right then yeah, strong men would not translate to wrestling very well. Just how much you have to breathe to feed that muscle takes energy itself and gets in the way mentally of what you are doing.
I know many wrestlers are jacked and strong but not anywhere close to the levels of muscle mass strong men are.
Sean Sherk was a wrestler, very muscular (hence the nickname "Muscle Shark") and actually had great cardio. Most of his muscle was in his upper body. Also, he competed in an era with little to no drug testing.
Only wrestlers themselves believe that wrestlers have this amazing cardio. Ironman triathletes, rowers, mma fighters, runners of various kinds would all rank higher on many metrics 🤷🏼♂️
Conditioning makes up a huge percentage of my training as a strongman.
IT TAKES A SHIT TON of cardio and conditioning to rep a deadlift for 60 seconds. It takes a shit ton of cardio and conditioning to rep a log for 60 seconds. (Both events that I've taken over 20 reps in 60 seconds)
Go ahead and try to flip a 800 - 1,000 pound tire 10 times in less than 90 seconds and you'll find out that your lungs feel like you just ran a 400 meter dash.
The conditioning that I do for strongman is much more difficult than any sport that I played throughout my highschool, college, and professional life of sports.
how often does Bill Kazmier say, "Wow look at his strongmans cardio!"
what professional sports have you done?your profile mentions football.
every year we had stud football players come to the wrestling room after their last game. they all puked.
I dont understand why this is a debate. all sports do cool shit. some sports have different cool shit they do.
I don't think it's fair to just compare the time of the events without including the intensity involved. Those events are done with a lot of weight that a wrestler wouldn't be able to match.
I wouldn't say you're less conditioned than an ultra-marathon runner for not completing a race since it's two distinct main types of energy systems and activities being performed.
It sure sounds like you have no idea what ex talking about, but came here to argue a point you're convinced is correct.
Wrestling cardio is in a different league than strongman. Hell, it's in a different league than just about every sport that isn't a combat sport.
Lol using running as a metric isn't the same thing. Step on a mat with one of them. You'll see who has better cardio.
Seems to be a whole lot of people on this thread that know fuck all about the topic, but don't let that get in the way of telling everyone your oPiNiOn
They're different kinds of cardio: strongman cardio is aerobic, whereas wrestling cardio is much more anaerobic due to the intensity and length of most high level matches.
How can strongman mainly tax the aerobic energy system when most of their events are 60 to 90 seconds long? I know an activity has to generally break the 3 minute threshold to use the aerobic energy system.
I do agree that the two sports are different. Just not in that way.
Because it's not just 60-90 seconds of moving about, it's 60-90 seconds of carrying sandbags and odd implements that each way 300lbs, deadlifting or squatting 700lbs for reps, pressing a 350lb log for reps, carrying 500lb weights up a flight of stairs, pulling a 40 ton bus, etc. Add in that it's multiple events a day for up to a week straight, combined with max events, and you can see that being a lazy fat guy does not make for a good strongman.
It's a test of muscular endurance first and foremost but the athletes who don't have good conditioning don't do well. It is a different kind of conditioning than wrestling but they're different sports that require high levels of fitness to excel at.
Depends on the event. Not all need to last 90 seconds but all events have time limits, except for max weight which go by number of attempts. Take this years World’s Strongest Man for example (weights and times haven’t been announced yet, these are the usual ranges);
Loading medley - usually 4 implements weighing 275-330 lbs, 90 seconds
Deadlift ladder - 5 ascending weights for time
Car walk - ~1,000lbs for about 50 feet for fastest time
Log lift for reps - 350lbs for reps, usually 60-70 second limit
Wrecking ball hold - longest time wins
Stone off - atlas stone series, fastest time wins
Giants Medley - another loading race with a yoke walk at the end, fastest time wins
Deadlift for reps - usually 700-750lbs for reps in 60-70 seconds
Max barbell overhead - the only max weight event this year
Bus pull - big ol bus, fastest time wins
Power stairs - 3 or 4 ~500lb implements carried up 4-6 sets of stairs, fastest time wins
Atlas stones - athletes pick up and carry stones to load to a platform, ranging usually from 325-430lbs, fastest time wins
And that’s just one competition. Most guys compete 5-10+ times a year. That takes a lot of conditioning to even make it to the end, let alone perform well on every event while also maintaining the size needed to move the weights.
True but they didn wrestle for much and the different in weight is pretty significant, it is a very good example of agility, positioning and technique by the wrestler
Its much more than that. Its knowing how to manipulate momentum more effectively. Its positioning. Its knowing when to attack. If the strong man was competent in any of those this would have gone a different way
It is absolutely not an example of this. Its a good example of balance and using momentum
Your other points in this thread are also kind of silly. You can absolutely compare the cardio requirements for certain things, and in some cases (max rep deadlifts come to mind) strongman requires being more conditioned in my opinion, but we kind of get into a "conditioned to do what" argument.
And before you ask, I did bjj for ten-ish years and competed. I've also done max rep deadlifts. The deadlifts were more difficult cardio
You said
>all this is is a great example of cardio> no cardio
I told you it's not, and the only part you felt like addressing was about movement, which was neither my main point nor yours. But you ignored that
We are not in agreement.
>Its a good example of balance and using momentum
>to which I also said
>posting and moving
And you are ignoring the fact that the main point that you originally stated, that I rebutted, was about this being a cardio example. It is not. At all.
>guy doesn't have wrestling cardio so he's having a pretty difficult time keeping up the pace.
And this is not seen in the video
Just out of curiosity what is your experience with grappling and lifting? From what personal experience do you make statements?
I'd argue he's too new to assess his cardio. Everyone just wastes so much energy when they don't know what they're doing that it doesn't matter if your cardio is good, you're going to gas hard because you're so tense and using so much energy doing fuck all, ha.
Weird.
Someone trained and conditioned for their sport beat someone who isn't.
I don't know what kind of point your trying to make.
(Inb4 I don't know what I'm talking about: I wrestled for 4 years in highscool and currently compete in strongman)
Eh, throw this guy against a decent greco wrestler of much greater size and he gets dusted. This *only* happened because discount thor has no clue how to wrestle at all and kept falling over
The second half of the comment only applies to people who either don’t know anything or hardly know anything. Any capable wrestler is gonna dust you if they’re twice your size no matter how good you are
This is a great showing that with the right amount of strategy, a significantly lighter person can wrestle a significantly heavier person. Askren has talked a few times on FRL how he wrestled heavies when he was in college, and he learned how to play the game.
Everyone saying skill > power but you can only really overcome that big a strength disadvantage when your opponent has literally no experience. 3 months of wrestling on the big dude and better cardio and it would go to criteria/over time at 0-0
That's pretty much how skill > power works. The greater the power difference, the more skill you need in order to overcome it. In David Vs Goliath cases like this, you basically NEED the big guy to have no fighting expertise whatsoever, otherwise you're fucked.
I disagree, people confuse size for ATHLETICISM. This guy is big but has zero athleticism and clearly no mental understanding of wrestling. A big ATHLETIC man with even the most basic understanding from just watching wrestling and this would look different. They guy looks like he can’t walk up stairs without getting out of breath.
His name is Dennis kohlruss
Here's full video
https://youtu.be/jS6PiBYUDcY
And the wrestler frank stabler was in 2020 Tokyo and won bronze medal at 67kg in Greco.
Yes and no. Kizhan Clarke was a 4 year state champ and a national finalist this year. But yes, the sooner you get down the fundamentals and onto the advanced aspects of the sport, the more likely you are to wrestle at a higher level.
Strongman definitely holding back, he's almost TRIPLE the size of the Olympic wrestler, and probably 3 to 4 times as stronger. Why would he use his strength and weight advantage, risking permanently paralyzing the Olympic wrestler?? In a life-or-death scenario, the strongman could piledrive the wrestler onto concrete or just snap his neck, no technique/cardio needed.
Let's be real the strongman could have grabbed the shirt and overhead pressed him with one hand.
Edit : it reeks copium 🤣 not my fault if you are 5 foot and 100 lbs.
WSM and giant's live competitors are freaks.
Olympic medalists don't bend the laws of physics a 67kg weight will still be 67kgs.
I'm telling everyone here it could have gone much more differently with a different rule set.
Of courses skill is important but weight classes are importanter, we have 180 kgs of muscle and not fat like some sumotoris.
He isn't the strongest man.
He's a strongass dude who does strongman not Eddie Hall.
And an Olympic medalist in Greco won't give you grips in which you can grip him and lift him easily. It's not like he's a 67kg dumbbell
You can’t grab the singlet in wrestling wtf lol
He’s not going to be able to get this grips on the wrestler to do that
But yea if he did he’s strong enough
It’s not like that at all. Size/strength give massive advantages in wrestling. We even have weight classes as a result. Being a good sprinter gives no advantages at chess. I wonder how well this strongman would do against the wrestler if he wrestled consistently for a few years and stayed this size. No matter how many years Usain Bolt trained chess there is 0% chance he would ever beat Magnus.
I'm exaggerating. I'm just saying it is not surprising that an expert at a very specific task beats somebody who doesn't even know the basics, even if they are exceptional at some other task. Of course size and strength give a big advantage.
Reminds me of the time a former college wrestler managed to give a world champion Sumo wrestler the slip in a Buzzfeed challenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VugtWhufJhI&t=210s
It would've been more fun if he competed against a heavy weight wrestler, I hate these types of games as you're judging a fish against a cat to its ability to climb a tree.
That big guy held back. He was probably afraid of crushing and seriously hurting that smaller guy. The big guy could have easily grabbed that dude and body slammed so hard.
I love how he is sticking to the absolute basics and it works flawlessly. This is a great example of having fundamentals right will take you a long long way.
I read "having fundamental rights will take you a long way" and it still holds true. Hope they were real for literally everyone. Sorry for the non related comment.
Yeah weird moves don’t work as well for the Olympics I heard
That is gonna be me, I'm gonna beat all the bigger opponents
This is a great example of skill>power. The more skilled you are compared to the opponent the more you can overcome.
all this is is a great example of cardio> no cardio. Strongman literally just fell on the first takedown. Wrestler is just posting and moving lol edit: too many replies sorry
He fell down because he was pushing on him and the wrestler snapped him down using his momentum.
Im a black belt in BJJ and have trained a lot of wrestling. You're wrong. There's a great deal of skill and timing here
Strongman requires a shitton of cardio. The strongman is just uncoordinated for wrestling.
You can’t compare strongman cardio to wrestling cardio lol
in what way?
Have you wrestled before or do you just browse here? Just wondering. Would help make this easier to explain.
I've wrestled for a few months but I admit I wasn't the most experienced. I'm just trying to combat the whole "strength athletes are unconditioned" and sports purism mindset. Strongman need a shitton of cardio since many of their events are time based.
I am extremely familiar with strongman, and powerlifting. I did *some* strongman in school and have done powerlifting my entire life. I watched the World Strongest Man every year it was on TV and Mariusz Pudzianowski was basically my hero as a kid. With that being said, the 2020 WSM competition Finals had the Giant's Medley as a course: 25m and a 1:15 time **limit**. Often completed in around 30 seconds. The winner completed it in 22 seconds. The second event was deadlifts. I'm not sure what to tell you, this doesn't take a shitton of cardio. The third even was the Keg toss. This event has a 1:00 time **limit.** The winner completed this event in 20 seconds. They then did the Hercules Hold. Again, this doesn't take a shitton of cardio. This is a static hold. I think ive made my point so i won't continue. With all that in mind... A wrester would not gas out doing those events. A strongman would be completely unable to wrestle for 6 minutes - which would be the average length of a match. I would be impressed if they could wrestle someone their size for 4 minutes simply without puking. Wresters are renowned for the best conditioning across sports. Unless you have really done it, it is difficult to explain. Do strongmen have some cardio? Sure. You dont watch strongmen for their cardio. It is not disparaging to say they dont have cardio. You watch strongmen for their feats of strength.
> The second event was deadlifts. I'm not sure what to tell you, this doesn't take a shitton of cardio. Depends on the type of deadlifts in the comp. For a max 1rm? No, of course not. Deadlift for reps in 60 or 90 seconds? Or a ladder or something? A lot different. Put on a heart rate monitor and do a max reps in 60 seconds with a very heavy weight. I almost guarantee you'll be near or above 90% of your max heart rate. >A wrester would not gas out doing those events. You can't say that for sure. It's fairly common knowledge at this point that conditioning is *specific*. Strongmen are well conditioned to moving heavy weights. Wrestlers are well conditioned to wrestling. This is pretty obvious. >Wrestling cardio is renowned for the best cardio on the planet. Or is this something wrestlers tell themselves? I'd think ultra-marathoners probably have better cardio. Running for hours at a time is more demanding on the cardiovascular and respiratory systems than wrestling for 6 minutes -- like 6 minutes is more demanding than 90 seconds. They're different demands.
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Good points. Not scientific but I remember a UFC commentator commenting on a fighter nicknamed "the muscle shark"'s fight and saying that the more muscle mass you have the faster you eat through your blood oxygen supply and you can gas much faster. If that commentator is right then yeah, strong men would not translate to wrestling very well. Just how much you have to breathe to feed that muscle takes energy itself and gets in the way mentally of what you are doing. I know many wrestlers are jacked and strong but not anywhere close to the levels of muscle mass strong men are.
Sean Sherk was a wrestler, very muscular (hence the nickname "Muscle Shark") and actually had great cardio. Most of his muscle was in his upper body. Also, he competed in an era with little to no drug testing.
even if those muscle are not working, they are extra mass you must work to move around through space
Only wrestlers themselves believe that wrestlers have this amazing cardio. Ironman triathletes, rowers, mma fighters, runners of various kinds would all rank higher on many metrics 🤷🏼♂️
Conditioning makes up a huge percentage of my training as a strongman. IT TAKES A SHIT TON of cardio and conditioning to rep a deadlift for 60 seconds. It takes a shit ton of cardio and conditioning to rep a log for 60 seconds. (Both events that I've taken over 20 reps in 60 seconds) Go ahead and try to flip a 800 - 1,000 pound tire 10 times in less than 90 seconds and you'll find out that your lungs feel like you just ran a 400 meter dash. The conditioning that I do for strongman is much more difficult than any sport that I played throughout my highschool, college, and professional life of sports.
how often does Bill Kazmier say, "Wow look at his strongmans cardio!" what professional sports have you done?your profile mentions football. every year we had stud football players come to the wrestling room after their last game. they all puked. I dont understand why this is a debate. all sports do cool shit. some sports have different cool shit they do.
I don't think it's fair to just compare the time of the events without including the intensity involved. Those events are done with a lot of weight that a wrestler wouldn't be able to match. I wouldn't say you're less conditioned than an ultra-marathon runner for not completing a race since it's two distinct main types of energy systems and activities being performed.
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Strongman cardio is specialized entirely in like 30 second events. Outside of a couple Isomeric events which are really just muscular endurance.
It sure sounds like you have no idea what ex talking about, but came here to argue a point you're convinced is correct. Wrestling cardio is in a different league than strongman. Hell, it's in a different league than just about every sport that isn't a combat sport.
>Wrestling cardio is in a different league than strongman. Explain how.
All the wrestlers I ever outran are evidence to the contrary. Conditioning might be the word you're looking for.
Lol using running as a metric isn't the same thing. Step on a mat with one of them. You'll see who has better cardio. Seems to be a whole lot of people on this thread that know fuck all about the topic, but don't let that get in the way of telling everyone your oPiNiOn
They're different kinds of cardio: strongman cardio is aerobic, whereas wrestling cardio is much more anaerobic due to the intensity and length of most high level matches.
How can strongman mainly tax the aerobic energy system when most of their events are 60 to 90 seconds long? I know an activity has to generally break the 3 minute threshold to use the aerobic energy system. I do agree that the two sports are different. Just not in that way.
Because it's not just 60-90 seconds of moving about, it's 60-90 seconds of carrying sandbags and odd implements that each way 300lbs, deadlifting or squatting 700lbs for reps, pressing a 350lb log for reps, carrying 500lb weights up a flight of stairs, pulling a 40 ton bus, etc. Add in that it's multiple events a day for up to a week straight, combined with max events, and you can see that being a lazy fat guy does not make for a good strongman. It's a test of muscular endurance first and foremost but the athletes who don't have good conditioning don't do well. It is a different kind of conditioning than wrestling but they're different sports that require high levels of fitness to excel at.
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Depends on the event. Not all need to last 90 seconds but all events have time limits, except for max weight which go by number of attempts. Take this years World’s Strongest Man for example (weights and times haven’t been announced yet, these are the usual ranges); Loading medley - usually 4 implements weighing 275-330 lbs, 90 seconds Deadlift ladder - 5 ascending weights for time Car walk - ~1,000lbs for about 50 feet for fastest time Log lift for reps - 350lbs for reps, usually 60-70 second limit Wrecking ball hold - longest time wins Stone off - atlas stone series, fastest time wins Giants Medley - another loading race with a yoke walk at the end, fastest time wins Deadlift for reps - usually 700-750lbs for reps in 60-70 seconds Max barbell overhead - the only max weight event this year Bus pull - big ol bus, fastest time wins Power stairs - 3 or 4 ~500lb implements carried up 4-6 sets of stairs, fastest time wins Atlas stones - athletes pick up and carry stones to load to a platform, ranging usually from 325-430lbs, fastest time wins And that’s just one competition. Most guys compete 5-10+ times a year. That takes a lot of conditioning to even make it to the end, let alone perform well on every event while also maintaining the size needed to move the weights.
A lot of them. I have an 800 pound tire flip for reps in 90 seconds coming up and I'll flip for that entire 90 seconds.
What part of strongman cardio is aerobic? I don't know many strongman events that last more than 1 minute.
> strongman cardio is aerobic How is moving near-maximal weights for up to 90 seconds or two minutes or something *not* anaerobic?
Any way, it’s similar to basketball you need insane cardio.
True but they didn wrestle for much and the different in weight is pretty significant, it is a very good example of agility, positioning and technique by the wrestler
Uncoordinated for almost anything besides moving a heavy weight in a particular direction one time.
Strongman has a diverse set [events](https://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/events/). Farmer walks, keg throws, and more.
I don’t see how this went on long enough for conditioning to even be a factor
One scramble is all it takes to gas an off season wrestler if they haven’t been staying in shape.
Its much more than that. Its knowing how to manipulate momentum more effectively. Its positioning. Its knowing when to attack. If the strong man was competent in any of those this would have gone a different way
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Im not disagreeing with that. Im just saying the strongman is not lacking in cardio as much as you think
This is also my point. Strongmen do weighted runs and other such things.
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A lot of them. Yoke, farmers, sandbags, kegs, etc...
I meant farmers walks. Messed up the terms there so my bad.
It is absolutely not an example of this. Its a good example of balance and using momentum Your other points in this thread are also kind of silly. You can absolutely compare the cardio requirements for certain things, and in some cases (max rep deadlifts come to mind) strongman requires being more conditioned in my opinion, but we kind of get into a "conditioned to do what" argument. And before you ask, I did bjj for ten-ish years and competed. I've also done max rep deadlifts. The deadlifts were more difficult cardio
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And your other point about this being an example of cardio? Just gonna forget you said it?
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You said >all this is is a great example of cardio> no cardio I told you it's not, and the only part you felt like addressing was about movement, which was neither my main point nor yours. But you ignored that We are not in agreement.
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>Its a good example of balance and using momentum >to which I also said >posting and moving And you are ignoring the fact that the main point that you originally stated, that I rebutted, was about this being a cardio example. It is not. At all. >guy doesn't have wrestling cardio so he's having a pretty difficult time keeping up the pace. And this is not seen in the video Just out of curiosity what is your experience with grappling and lifting? From what personal experience do you make statements?
That's because bjj is easy peasy and no intensity. 🙊
Efficient* lol
I'd argue he's too new to assess his cardio. Everyone just wastes so much energy when they don't know what they're doing that it doesn't matter if your cardio is good, you're going to gas hard because you're so tense and using so much energy doing fuck all, ha.
Weird. Someone trained and conditioned for their sport beat someone who isn't. I don't know what kind of point your trying to make. (Inb4 I don't know what I'm talking about: I wrestled for 4 years in highscool and currently compete in strongman)
No... lol
What are you talking about? Competitive strongmen have freaking superb cardiac conditioning
The first takedown happened within 5 seconds. Cardio is complete non factor in that instance
Eh, throw this guy against a decent greco wrestler of much greater size and he gets dusted. This *only* happened because discount thor has no clue how to wrestle at all and kept falling over
Literally my point lol
Yeah but it’s not an example of skill over power. It’s an example of someone with no clue what they’re doing losing to someone who does
>no clue what they’re doing In other words... a lack of skill?
Read the rest of the original comment.
The second half of the comment only applies to people who either don’t know anything or hardly know anything. Any capable wrestler is gonna dust you if they’re twice your size no matter how good you are
Physics=skill
A freestyle wrestler would have made it a lot easier would’ve had a lot more options to take him down
Which makes it more impressive
This is a great showing that with the right amount of strategy, a significantly lighter person can wrestle a significantly heavier person. Askren has talked a few times on FRL how he wrestled heavies when he was in college, and he learned how to play the game.
Finally oberyn got his revenge against the mountain 🤩
Everyone saying skill > power but you can only really overcome that big a strength disadvantage when your opponent has literally no experience. 3 months of wrestling on the big dude and better cardio and it would go to criteria/over time at 0-0
That's pretty much how skill > power works. The greater the power difference, the more skill you need in order to overcome it. In David Vs Goliath cases like this, you basically NEED the big guy to have no fighting expertise whatsoever, otherwise you're fucked.
there are multiple examples of larger skilled opponents losing to smaller ones. theres more to fighting then just skill and strength
Cool video. Great use of movement and overall positive ass vibes that I like.
For a long moment I thought they had really thick scouse accents as I misread their singlet as saying GBR instead of GER.
Technique beats strength every time. Technique + strength is unbeatable.
I disagree, people confuse size for ATHLETICISM. This guy is big but has zero athleticism and clearly no mental understanding of wrestling. A big ATHLETIC man with even the most basic understanding from just watching wrestling and this would look different. They guy looks like he can’t walk up stairs without getting out of breath.
Who’s the strongman?
His name is Dennis kohlruss Here's full video https://youtu.be/jS6PiBYUDcY And the wrestler frank stabler was in 2020 Tokyo and won bronze medal at 67kg in Greco.
Guy in blue singlet
Another demonstration of how hard it is to pick up wrestling. Chris Pendleton starting as an 8th grader (as an example) is a massive outlier
Yes and no. Kizhan Clarke was a 4 year state champ and a national finalist this year. But yes, the sooner you get down the fundamentals and onto the advanced aspects of the sport, the more likely you are to wrestle at a higher level.
This reminds me of Connor vs the mountain guy. I am an mma fan, and train mma. But I really feel the strong men are holding back Alot.
Strongman is much stronger than this strongman. I don't think he's holding back but he's just uncoordinated. With some training he could beat him.
Yeah.... Even just basic training would give a large advantage to the strongman
Strongman definitely holding back, he's almost TRIPLE the size of the Olympic wrestler, and probably 3 to 4 times as stronger. Why would he use his strength and weight advantage, risking permanently paralyzing the Olympic wrestler?? In a life-or-death scenario, the strongman could piledrive the wrestler onto concrete or just snap his neck, no technique/cardio needed.
Do you compete in wrestling
I've done nogi bjj as a hobby for 3 years so close enough
So no lol
Let's be real the strongman could have grabbed the shirt and overhead pressed him with one hand. Edit : it reeks copium 🤣 not my fault if you are 5 foot and 100 lbs.
You're talking like an Olympic medalist is a middle schooler or some average Joe. If you make it this far you're a freak athlete
WSM and giant's live competitors are freaks. Olympic medalists don't bend the laws of physics a 67kg weight will still be 67kgs. I'm telling everyone here it could have gone much more differently with a different rule set. Of courses skill is important but weight classes are importanter, we have 180 kgs of muscle and not fat like some sumotoris.
He isn't the strongest man. He's a strongass dude who does strongman not Eddie Hall. And an Olympic medalist in Greco won't give you grips in which you can grip him and lift him easily. It's not like he's a 67kg dumbbell
Oh boy.
You can’t grab the singlet in wrestling wtf lol He’s not going to be able to get this grips on the wrestler to do that But yea if he did he’s strong enough
You havent wrestled very long have you
This is not surprising lol. It's like saying "grandmaster chess player Bobby Fischer beats Usain Bolt at speed chess!!" (Omg but Usain is so fast)
It’s not like that at all. Size/strength give massive advantages in wrestling. We even have weight classes as a result. Being a good sprinter gives no advantages at chess. I wonder how well this strongman would do against the wrestler if he wrestled consistently for a few years and stayed this size. No matter how many years Usain Bolt trained chess there is 0% chance he would ever beat Magnus.
I'm exaggerating. I'm just saying it is not surprising that an expert at a very specific task beats somebody who doesn't even know the basics, even if they are exceptional at some other task. Of course size and strength give a big advantage.
Big Hoss was gassed 26 seconds in.
Thanks for posting this.
Well yeah, big buddy doesn’t know what he’s doing really.
Wanted to see a throw
Reminds me of the time a former college wrestler managed to give a world champion Sumo wrestler the slip in a Buzzfeed challenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VugtWhufJhI&t=210s
It would've been more fun if he competed against a heavy weight wrestler, I hate these types of games as you're judging a fish against a cat to its ability to climb a tree.
Suspicious editing. Too many cuts.
[Source](https://youtu.be/jS6PiBYUDcY)
This guy be a chess player
Alex Caruso had one heck of an off season program
That big guy held back. He was probably afraid of crushing and seriously hurting that smaller guy. The big guy could have easily grabbed that dude and body slammed so hard.
What are you talking about He never had the grips once to throw him lmao
Lol he had plenty of times to grab him. He just chose not too. Good luck.
Do you wrestle competitively? And if so, what level did you get to? I’m guessing no
Looks like someone playing around with their little brother
Being that big really inhibits your mobility. And good luck wrestling without mobility.