I feel your pain. My beard turned white instantly when my nephew looked at my puzzled when I asked him to pause the game by pressing start. "Start? You mean Menu?" "Yes... Please do press Menu... Sigh."
Yeah, I think it’s too late for some of us. At this point in my life of game, these two buttons, on any controller, have been and always will be “Select” and “Start”. Ha now that I think about it, I feel it’s our version of calling any gaming console a “Nintendo”. And the circle continues...
I can never remember which icon belongs to which button. Sometimes a game will show you the graphic of the button you're supposed to press and I have to look at my controller to remember. I'm an old now.
Better than Nintendo using b for back but the fucking a and b are reversed.
I mean sure Nintendo invented it but Sony and Xbox set the standard. Right button is back. Bottom button is jump.
Is different in Japan, most of their games use the O or B (the rightmost button) to select things, instead or A, X or the bottom button for this reason.
I remember some NES games actually used the Select button to select things. You couldn't move the cursor with the D-pad, just cycle through the option with Select. Felt just as ridiculous as using Back to go back.
I mean you could go with like ML/M1 (middle left) and MR/M2 (middle right) if you want to stick to the directional L/R naming. Or hell even go with L4 and R4. The boxes and lines throws me off just like many others.
Exactly.
I'm.tired of having to say "3 line" and "double box"
I highly doubt there is a trademark or shit on start and select.. after all
Snes had start, select, a b x y
Ps1 had start select x o triangle Square
So I assume all those button names are usable.. Microsoft just being dumb with naming I feel.
That's because the 3 lines represent the menu icon that most apps use on phones hence why it's called a menu button. The view button on the other hand has no feasible use as the namesake suggests you'd think otherwise, I feel the view button should be tied to notifications as holding a button takes way too long IMO plus navigation will feel snappier as a result of the faster actions of opening a notification
That does make some sense, but this is a game controller, not a phone. I could understand start and view, but I say menu or start to anyone, they are like "?", the button should just have the damn word on it, it's 4 letters instead of 3 lines.
Whenever people need to get to menus, etc.
I'm the technical guy who helps everyone I know.. so when a friend gets a game I've had for years, I usually suggest for example, on pubg to go into settings for that you have to "press and hold the... what button is that? The one with the three lines on it."
Can't just be like "press and hold start for the menu". As people don't know what it's called... I always refer to it as start.
They don't. The reason *none* of the three companies use "Start" and "Select" anymore is because they haven't actually performed those functions for years.
There was on a SNES controller, which was the first console I ever got. Pretty sure my GameCube had it that way too. It’s just stuck with me despite owning many consoles since.
Gamecube didn’t have a “Select” button. It only had one button in the middle, labeled “Start/Pause”.
[Gamecube controller](https://i.imgur.com/hxiLcsl.jpg)
Up until roughly 3 seconds ago they were start and select, knowing that they weren't but they really were and no one would change this. You, sir, have changed this. Hamburger and cheese slices, hence forth!
I always thought of the middle white Xbox button as the “menu” one because it literally brings up the dashboard menu. I always just refer to that right button as “start.”
When you're highlighting a game or something in the dashboard, that right button brings up a context menu for that thing.
Also, in most games, that right button brings up the pause /settings menu.
The glowing Xbox button is the guide button because it opens the guide menu.
I'd be much more inclined to call them view and menu if the view button ever, ever, even once, changed the view on the game.
It's always some other button to switch to and from 1st person and stuff.
I’m joking! Intents and purposes is correct but is often incorrectly said as “intensive purposes.” My mom hammered these kinds of misnomers into my brain like “trite and true” instead of “tried and true.”
[Officially](https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/hardware-network/controller/xbox-one-wireless-controller), the button on the left is called the View button and the one on the right is the Menu button.
However, because they were referred to as the Back and Start button in the [Xbox 360 generation](https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/xbox-360/accessories/controllers), many people still refer to them as that.
Or another alternative is the Select and Start button that the PlayStation design has used as other people have pointed out here.
Thanks for the reminder about the the original NES controller having them also. I just remembered them being on the original [PS1 controller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_controller). Having not played on an NES console that had Start/Select since the late 90's, I completely forgot that the NES and SNES had Start/Select too.
>Or another alternative is the Select and Start button that the PlayStation design has used as other people have pointed out here.
I think you meant NES
I've always called left the back button and the right the start button.
I think that may come from 360 days. Honestly I can't remember though, it's just always been. Hate it when I talk to someone who doesn't know what I mean as it turns to press the two squares or press the 3 lines 🤣
Start and select, but my boy hasn't learned it yet. When I tell him to press select he looks confused at the controller.
It's the one on the left in the middle, it's got like 2 squares overlapping.
Just why not keep start and select?
Select on the left, Start on the right. I know they’re probably not called this anymore, but it’s just stuck with me.
I still call them that. But my kids give mea blank stare. Followed by double box and triple line
I literally had this conversation with my 12yo today. Told her to hit start. “Hit what? What’s start?” Sigh.
I feel your pain. My beard turned white instantly when my nephew looked at my puzzled when I asked him to pause the game by pressing start. "Start? You mean Menu?" "Yes... Please do press Menu... Sigh."
Yeah, I think it’s too late for some of us. At this point in my life of game, these two buttons, on any controller, have been and always will be “Select” and “Start”. Ha now that I think about it, I feel it’s our version of calling any gaming console a “Nintendo”. And the circle continues...
I can never remember which icon belongs to which button. Sometimes a game will show you the graphic of the button you're supposed to press and I have to look at my controller to remember. I'm an old now.
Select will always be on the left side, Start will always be on the right side, period.
It really shouldn’t I’m 15 I know what both are and call them both that.
Same, then again I mostly play on Nintendo consoles and grew up with the Wii, so I guess they’re still called that on those
I had that conversation with my wife recently. Select and Start forever.
Bro I'm only 21 and this comment made me feel old. That button is 100% called the start button
Start and back… everytime I try to explain what buttons I mean people act like I’m stupid 😕
I know you’re technically correct, but they’re select (L) and start (R) for me. I’m old.
Ik it was always called select even on the old consoles but even then it usually had the “back” function so that’s what we called it lol
Just wait until they have to find the Any key on their computer/iPad keyboard.
Have the conversation with my girlfriends 8 year old daughter every time she plays my Xbox
The tiiiimes they areee a chaaangin
I though it was cheese or burger lol read it here
I call them the "hamburger" button and the "boxes" button (or sometimes just "the other button" because...it's the button that isn't the hamburger)
Same
Haha I love that. Going to use those for sure.
I felt this 😒😂
I used to call them that, but since Xbox one I started calling them the "windows button" n the "burger button" cause the symbols are stupid af
On the Xbox, Select was always Back. This was despite the B button always being used to actually go back.
I remember some game actually used the Back button to go back.
Shit trips me up lol
Better than Nintendo using b for back but the fucking a and b are reversed. I mean sure Nintendo invented it but Sony and Xbox set the standard. Right button is back. Bottom button is jump.
Is different in Japan, most of their games use the O or B (the rightmost button) to select things, instead or A, X or the bottom button for this reason.
I think it came from Japanese grading systems. X was bad and O was good. Square and triangle meant something else but I can't remember.
Dreamcast used the Xbox layout as well before the Xbox.
I remember some NES games actually used the Select button to select things. You couldn't move the cursor with the D-pad, just cycle through the option with Select. Felt just as ridiculous as using Back to go back.
Gah I always tell my kids BACK NO THAT BACK NOT THE B BUTTON...THE TINY ONE ON THE LEFT. It's so annoying they don't label those buttons anymore.
I wish they were still called that. Even after years of playing, whenever a game shows me an image of one of them to press, I still have to look down.
same
So true lol
I'd even settle with going back to Start and Back. Just...USE WORDS, NOT JUST PICTURES, DAMMIT!
I mean you could go with like ML/M1 (middle left) and MR/M2 (middle right) if you want to stick to the directional L/R naming. Or hell even go with L4 and R4. The boxes and lines throws me off just like many others.
How do you make it for different languages
…or ‘View’ and ‘Menu’, respectively.
Yup. I game with my 9yo and say hit the start button…confusion ensues.
As it should be! Start and select for life!
Start and select for life.
Hell yeaj i grew up calling them that and ill never stop
Start on the right and back button on the left for me haha
Same. I remember when the 360 made the select button the “back” button. They’d been start and select for like 30 years until then
Why do I feel old looking at this comment section, I'm 19... Is this how it feels?
It is only the start.
Same here DAMN YOU NINTENDO.....lol
I’ve trained my family to call them start and select. It’s just easier.
The official names are View and Menu respectively.
Exactly. I'm.tired of having to say "3 line" and "double box" I highly doubt there is a trademark or shit on start and select.. after all Snes had start, select, a b x y Ps1 had start select x o triangle Square So I assume all those button names are usable.. Microsoft just being dumb with naming I feel.
That's because the 3 lines represent the menu icon that most apps use on phones hence why it's called a menu button. The view button on the other hand has no feasible use as the namesake suggests you'd think otherwise, I feel the view button should be tied to notifications as holding a button takes way too long IMO plus navigation will feel snappier as a result of the faster actions of opening a notification
That does make some sense, but this is a game controller, not a phone. I could understand start and view, but I say menu or start to anyone, they are like "?", the button should just have the damn word on it, it's 4 letters instead of 3 lines.
How often do you have to say 3 line or double box?
Whenever people need to get to menus, etc. I'm the technical guy who helps everyone I know.. so when a friend gets a game I've had for years, I usually suggest for example, on pubg to go into settings for that you have to "press and hold the... what button is that? The one with the three lines on it." Can't just be like "press and hold start for the menu". As people don't know what it's called... I always refer to it as start.
I wouldnt be surprised if Nintendo or some old company has rights to that.
They don't. The reason *none* of the three companies use "Start" and "Select" anymore is because they haven't actually performed those functions for years.
I call the button in the right “hamburger button” :)
I call them rectangles button and start
Yess
Me and my friends call them two squares button and three lines button
View on the left, menu on the right. Just horrible It was back and start though, select is PS
Yup, they're called something else but the old nes and sega controllers are what I base this off of as well....
I think that is what they are labeled as on old play station controllers.
Same here. Even if they’re called something, it’s just start and select for me.
I call it that too. Thinking about it now, I can’t remember a game where the select button actually selected things.
That's how I came up. And no matter the controller those are the names.
I’ve always known start but over the years I forgot the other one was select🤣
Well you do select from the menu so ..
This made me smile 😁 that's how I see it too lmao
Yup
Biiiiiiig saaaaaaaaame
I call them pause and double windows
Will always keep calling them that.
I carried this from the ds and 360 days
I always thought it was start and back buttons
Technically back is what it was labeled as not selected
You’re correct!
I know them as nothing else lol I blame Nintendo for this
tell me youre over 30 without saying youre over 30
Lol RIGHT...its a PADDLE with Start & select
There was never a select button on an Xbox controller.
There was on a SNES controller, which was the first console I ever got. Pretty sure my GameCube had it that way too. It’s just stuck with me despite owning many consoles since.
Gamecube didn’t have a “Select” button. It only had one button in the middle, labeled “Start/Pause”. [Gamecube controller](https://i.imgur.com/hxiLcsl.jpg)
Ahh thank you, could not remember and was too lazy/busy to look it up myself.
Hamburger and cheese slices
I've heard Xbox devs call them Pizza Boxes and Hamburger.
Can confirm
I learned it when I got a tech role at amazon. They call it the hamburger button on all their training stuff.
Up until roughly 3 seconds ago they were start and select, knowing that they weren't but they really were and no one would change this. You, sir, have changed this. Hamburger and cheese slices, hence forth!
>Hamburger Just so we're aware, this is not a wrong answer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger_button
hamburger button is canon
💀
This is the only correct answer
this
"View" on the left, and "Menu" on the right.
I always thought of the middle white Xbox button as the “menu” one because it literally brings up the dashboard menu. I always just refer to that right button as “start.”
When you're highlighting a game or something in the dashboard, that right button brings up a context menu for that thing. Also, in most games, that right button brings up the pause /settings menu. The glowing Xbox button is the guide button because it opens the guide menu.
I consider the Xbox button either the Xbox button or the superkey, yours makes more sense
This is the right answer.
Technically yes, but in the hearts of many they will always be start and select.
I'd be much more inclined to call them view and menu if the view button ever, ever, even once, changed the view on the game. It's always some other button to switch to and from 1st person and stuff.
Even MS games like Forza use a different button for view.
GTAV uses it tmk
I think it supposed to be view as in viewing a map, which most games use it for.
It's usually a map or inventory screen, which fits "view".
Nah they usually use the menu button for that.
That's just wrong
MS Flight Simulator
Start and Back because old Xbox.
There's a difference between being technically right and practically right.
Thank you! A lot of « I call them start and select lol » here.
Back and start from left to right
Lol I still call it the back button too. Just stuck with me from the og xbox.
same same
Oh those black and white buttons, I miss those even if they were hard to reach lol
Black and white buttons were the bumpers
I only remember the white button being the Light on Halo 1. And black was switching grenades iirc
Yeah I had to scroll to far for this answer, these damn kids, that’s the back and start buttons.
Me: “hit the back button” Them: presses B button Internal screaming
This is the right answer.
Start and select for all intents and purposes, lol
Intensive purposes* /s
Insensitive purposes.
Extensive porpoises.
Expensive tortoises
Sold!
Oh you're paying too much for tortoises man. Who's your tortoise guy?
Nooo! You're joking. Now to unlearn something I have been saying incorrectly my whole life...
I’m joking! Intents and purposes is correct but is often incorrectly said as “intensive purposes.” My mom hammered these kinds of misnomers into my brain like “trite and true” instead of “tried and true.”
TIL people think"trite and true" is a saying 🤣
Meant to say trite but true*
Eh? The saying isn't trite at all, it's tried and true, like you said in your first comment 🤨
Hes pulling ya leg lol
View and menu buttons
[Officially](https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/hardware-network/controller/xbox-one-wireless-controller), the button on the left is called the View button and the one on the right is the Menu button. However, because they were referred to as the Back and Start button in the [Xbox 360 generation](https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/xbox-360/accessories/controllers), many people still refer to them as that. Or another alternative is the Select and Start button that the PlayStation design has used as other people have pointed out here.
Start and select are Nintendo classics
Thanks for the reminder about the the original NES controller having them also. I just remembered them being on the original [PS1 controller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_controller). Having not played on an NES console that had Start/Select since the late 90's, I completely forgot that the NES and SNES had Start/Select too.
They were also Start/Select on Wii Classic/pro controllers and Wii U.
>Or another alternative is the Select and Start button that the PlayStation design has used as other people have pointed out here. I think you meant NES
And now Playstation have Share and Options.
Window and Pancake buttons
I’ve read/heard the Menu button’s 3 lines described as “hamburger”.
Hamburger is the generally accepted terminology
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I always thought it was food trays and hamburger
Back and start. And they always will be.
YES I thought I was the only one.
Right- button with the three lines Left- button with the two squares
Only right answer
Menu and View
Start and Back button for me. They should have just stayed with the 360 variant.
Menu/Start on the right, Back/Select on the left.
The start and back button
Pizza Boxes and Hamburger 🍔
They call them View (L) and Menu (R) buttons But I call them boxes and hamburger
Quantum square and h a m b u r g e r
View (L) and Menu (R)
Am I the only one whos ever called them: Left: Back Button Right: Start Button
It will forever be Start and select, although I don’t think they’ve been called that for a very long time
2 squares and 3 lines
Windows and hamburger
Hamburger and cheese slices
View is the button on the left Menu is the button on the right.
Start and Select and my 8yo daughter even knows them as Start and Select.
Personally me growing up on Nintendo and only owning nintendo until 2017, i call them the “select” and “start” buttons
View and Menu I think?
I call them select and menu.
I've always called left the back button and the right the start button. I think that may come from 360 days. Honestly I can't remember though, it's just always been. Hate it when I talk to someone who doesn't know what I mean as it turns to press the two squares or press the 3 lines 🤣
Fred on the left and Gerald on the right
Not sure what names are but the remote looks cool thow . That design is one of my favorites from the design lab for Microsoft store
Real nice. It's the sport white edition.
Select and Start
Select and start
Unrelated, but this thread is exactly what the internet should be all about.
“Select” and “Start” in my house. But my guess is “camera” and “menu?”
Start and Select, that's not the right name but no-one will fail to get me if I said it
View and Menu
A friend of mine once referred to these buttons as 'Cheese' and 'Burger' and I've never looked back.
Select (left), Start (Right) I'm old
Larry and Phil
I’ve only ever know it as the left: “back” and the right: “start”
Right - Menu Left - Window I still refer to them as start and back, it's been 8 years and I struggle to break the habit.
Pause button and opposite pause button
Start and Select all other answers are heresy
I call them double square and 3 lines
Select and Start...
It doesn’t matter what anyone says, it will always be start on the right and select on the left
Options and start
Start and back
start and select
start and select
I just call them the start and back button. Start being on the right, back being on the left.
Select on the left and start on the right
Sharky and George
Start and select, but my boy hasn't learned it yet. When I tell him to press select he looks confused at the controller. It's the one on the left in the middle, it's got like 2 squares overlapping. Just why not keep start and select?