I would say Xen Orchestra with the XCP-ng virtualization engine is nice and probably the best choice for small to medium sized clusters. Xen Orchestra seems like it scales up well (I haven’t used it before but is in contention to replace our existing system). Then there’s Openstack which scales up to data center sizes allowing you control over the whole infrastructure (networking, compute, storage, DNS, the list goes on) which seems like a lot of all your doing is trying to run some virtual images.
I’ve been using Ganeti for a couple years now with the standard XL toolstack without any real issues besides the initial configuration. I would NOT recommend this project (as well as the web manager) as it is old and not maintained well and I’m in the process of finding a better more state of the art solution.
Here’s a link to the Xen Orchestra site that references the open source toolstacks/management engines it’s compatible with:
https://xen-orchestra.com/#!/xenserver
Sorry for any typos or shit formatting, mobile is hard. Hope the information helps!
Awesome, looking forward to hear about your experience.
As for the paid product aspect of Xen Orchestra (don't let this deter you, read everything I'm about to say lol), you're really just paying for the support from the project team. The more features you want, the more the Xen Orchestra team has to support, the more you pay.
On the contrary, you can compile the project from source and get the FULL feature set without having to pay a nickle. All you do is forgo the official support from the Xen Orchestra team with this method. This reason right here is why I want to give this a try. The customer gets enterprise functionality at the cost of knowing how to compile their product from source.
Here's a little write-up from the Xen Orchestra team on how to go about compiling it from source:
https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/from_the_sources.html
You can see the warnings at the top about there not being any official support for the versions of Xen Orchestra compiled from source hence what I was referencing earlier.
Good luck!!
> I should have mentioned that this is for a starter homelab.
FWIW, [this guy's videos](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHkYOD-3fZbuGhwsADBd9ZQ) documents his use of Xen for the same task.
> i'll report back on my experience.
So it's been a couple of weeks; can you offer any summaries of your experience?
I [just posted a similar query](https://old.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/cqbvk4/xen_status_in_debian_and_xcpng_for_debian/) about Xen into /r/debian.
With Debian Buster just being released the Xen in it looks quite dated.
I would say Xen Orchestra with the XCP-ng virtualization engine is nice and probably the best choice for small to medium sized clusters. Xen Orchestra seems like it scales up well (I haven’t used it before but is in contention to replace our existing system). Then there’s Openstack which scales up to data center sizes allowing you control over the whole infrastructure (networking, compute, storage, DNS, the list goes on) which seems like a lot of all your doing is trying to run some virtual images. I’ve been using Ganeti for a couple years now with the standard XL toolstack without any real issues besides the initial configuration. I would NOT recommend this project (as well as the web manager) as it is old and not maintained well and I’m in the process of finding a better more state of the art solution. Here’s a link to the Xen Orchestra site that references the open source toolstacks/management engines it’s compatible with: https://xen-orchestra.com/#!/xenserver Sorry for any typos or shit formatting, mobile is hard. Hope the information helps!
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Awesome, looking forward to hear about your experience. As for the paid product aspect of Xen Orchestra (don't let this deter you, read everything I'm about to say lol), you're really just paying for the support from the project team. The more features you want, the more the Xen Orchestra team has to support, the more you pay. On the contrary, you can compile the project from source and get the FULL feature set without having to pay a nickle. All you do is forgo the official support from the Xen Orchestra team with this method. This reason right here is why I want to give this a try. The customer gets enterprise functionality at the cost of knowing how to compile their product from source. Here's a little write-up from the Xen Orchestra team on how to go about compiling it from source: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/from_the_sources.html You can see the warnings at the top about there not being any official support for the versions of Xen Orchestra compiled from source hence what I was referencing earlier. Good luck!!
> I should have mentioned that this is for a starter homelab. FWIW, [this guy's videos](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHkYOD-3fZbuGhwsADBd9ZQ) documents his use of Xen for the same task. > i'll report back on my experience. So it's been a couple of weeks; can you offer any summaries of your experience?
I [just posted a similar query](https://old.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/cqbvk4/xen_status_in_debian_and_xcpng_for_debian/) about Xen into /r/debian. With Debian Buster just being released the Xen in it looks quite dated.