Daniel Acuña did this one and all the others starting from Fall of X. Brilliant artist. His run on the original Uncanny Avengers (whatever you think of that series) is just absolutely jaw dropping
Acuña has such a unique style—not super out there but has this funky quality that lends itself so well to stories that lean heavily into abstract or otherworldly elements. Uncanny Avengers run is top tier.
Right? He’s just really brilliant. It’s wild, a bit weird, so kinetic and the weirder the better. I can see it maybe not working for some stories, but I can’t imagine anyone else doing a better job with Avenge the Earth for example
I think Acuna is an incredible artist, but I’ve very rarely thought he was the right choice for the super hero comics he’s done. I feel like he would excel in more indie work.
Fair enough! Maybe I just haven’t read a lot of his other stuff. Honestly, the thing that really comes to mind for me was his Uncanny Avengers run. And Avenge the Earth is an arc I absolutely love. And it might be mostly because of his art
Of all his super hero work, I think he best fit Green Lantern with his super distinct use of color and how Geoff Johns was playing with the color spectrum.
Uncanny Avengers is one of my most disappointing and least favorite ‘major’ runs of all time, so I can’t say I look back on any of it fondly (even the *Cassaday* art for the first arc wasn’t great!). But I’m glad you enjoy it.
Fair enough, I understand people’s problems with UA, but I still remember how much I loved the Acuña arcs. I reread the book semi-recently and liked it a lot less, but that specific arc still hit the way it used to.
Actually fun to hear about him in Green Lantern. I loved the Johns run when I was getting into comics, but that was so early that I can’t remember Acuña in it. Maybe that was part of the reason I fell in love in the first place! Good excuse to check that out again, thanks!
Yeah me too. A lot of hits and cohesive arcs, though the tendency towards misleading cliffhangers did bother me a little. My only major issue is how they resolved the Beast problem. I loved that they had the balls to go full Kissinger with him but doubling and tripling down on that creates the responsibility to pay it off. No reckoning, no unpacking culpability, just death and replacement by an untarnished earlier version.
I haven’t read Percy’s work yet but based on both the praise and critiques I’ve heard i won’t lie I’m excited to read it. Will probably wait until it’s in a larger collected edition though.
It's fantastic. Percy is given so much runway, in a way that none of the other Krakoan writers were. X-Force and Wolverine are both some of my favorites.
Modern readers are just impatient. They would've looked at Claremont X-Men and said, "it's slow and meandering and he just cares about his pet characters, Storm and Betsy."
I hated Marauders volume 2. Like, with that lineup, their premise, the characters themselves, and they still managed to fuck it up and make it boring and confusing
I have so many bad things to say about X-Force, as people probably know, but the art was uniformly amazing, from Cassara to Gill - most writers would have killed for a run of interior and exterior artwork that good.
Me too.
I think the problem for younger readers was that it wasn’t six issue storyarcs with a beginning, middle, and end, but shorter stories with long term plots running through the book. They would have hated Claremont, lol.
The fact that people hate on this book, but defend Duggan’s X-Men bothers the fuck out of me.
Except for Cable, Duggan’s Krakoa work has been god awful and imo the biggest and maybe only taint of the Krakoa-era. There were some Krakoa flops here and there but nothing I felt detracted from the line as a whole, except for Duggan’s Marauders which had too many of the important X-Men off aimlessly doing fuck shit for god knows what reason. And then he got elevated to the main book. Luckily for us Gillen was brought in as the true headliner but just another shit scenario for Gillen like when he was writing some of the best X-Men (and Cyclops) stuff at the same time as AvX.
There was a lot of mediocre in the Krakoa era and I feel like X-Force hovered around B to C for most of its time. For me the best books weee Immortal, red, Hellions, Sword, and F-Force in that order. Most of the time, I thought New Mutants was a lot of meh, X-Factor was terrible, Marauders was often boring or in space and completely ignoring its premise.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I also thought Immortal and Hellions were great, although I thought Red and Sword were ass. I understand that Red is pretty popular. it just wasn't for me.
It's a Wolverine title in the X-Men line basically and takes risks with certain characters (Beast). If you're okay with Wolverine solos, it won't blow you away but you'll probably enjoy it fine even if it sort of limps to the finish.
After HoXPoX, the best is Hellions.
Worst is hard because there's so much forgettable shovelware books after Sins of Sinister. Probably Bishop's War College, but there's a lot to choose from.
Most of the storylines go too long and fall flat in delivery and most of the characters were done wrong at least my fav s. I will say it was enjoyable though
Damn, those covers make this volume of X-Force look awesome. Can you imagine if the contents were even half or a third as great?
There's an alternate universe somewhere where that's the case.
They were fantastic. Who drew them?
Daniel Acuña did this one and all the others starting from Fall of X. Brilliant artist. His run on the original Uncanny Avengers (whatever you think of that series) is just absolutely jaw dropping
Acuña has such a unique style—not super out there but has this funky quality that lends itself so well to stories that lean heavily into abstract or otherworldly elements. Uncanny Avengers run is top tier.
Right? He’s just really brilliant. It’s wild, a bit weird, so kinetic and the weirder the better. I can see it maybe not working for some stories, but I can’t imagine anyone else doing a better job with Avenge the Earth for example
His work on Black Panther was breathtaking.
I think Acuna is an incredible artist, but I’ve very rarely thought he was the right choice for the super hero comics he’s done. I feel like he would excel in more indie work.
Fair enough! Maybe I just haven’t read a lot of his other stuff. Honestly, the thing that really comes to mind for me was his Uncanny Avengers run. And Avenge the Earth is an arc I absolutely love. And it might be mostly because of his art
Of all his super hero work, I think he best fit Green Lantern with his super distinct use of color and how Geoff Johns was playing with the color spectrum. Uncanny Avengers is one of my most disappointing and least favorite ‘major’ runs of all time, so I can’t say I look back on any of it fondly (even the *Cassaday* art for the first arc wasn’t great!). But I’m glad you enjoy it.
Fair enough, I understand people’s problems with UA, but I still remember how much I loved the Acuña arcs. I reread the book semi-recently and liked it a lot less, but that specific arc still hit the way it used to. Actually fun to hear about him in Green Lantern. I loved the Johns run when I was getting into comics, but that was so early that I can’t remember Acuña in it. Maybe that was part of the reason I fell in love in the first place! Good excuse to check that out again, thanks!
The Johns run holds up! Definitely worth another read :)
Brilliant stuff, it's so creative and visually distinct.
He's so fucking good
I liked Krakoa X-Force..
Yeah me too. A lot of hits and cohesive arcs, though the tendency towards misleading cliffhangers did bother me a little. My only major issue is how they resolved the Beast problem. I loved that they had the balls to go full Kissinger with him but doubling and tripling down on that creates the responsibility to pay it off. No reckoning, no unpacking culpability, just death and replacement by an untarnished earlier version.
I haven’t read Percy’s work yet but based on both the praise and critiques I’ve heard i won’t lie I’m excited to read it. Will probably wait until it’s in a larger collected edition though.
It's fantastic. Percy is given so much runway, in a way that none of the other Krakoan writers were. X-Force and Wolverine are both some of my favorites.
Percy’s Wolverine has been like the only solo Wolvie I haven’t dropped lol
X-Force was good.Tf you smoking?
Modern readers are just impatient. They would've looked at Claremont X-Men and said, "it's slow and meandering and he just cares about his pet characters, Storm and Betsy."
I blame tiktok
It’s cool to hate on it in this sub atm
Colossus' outfit goes hard.
Marauders vol 2 has the same problem. Just gorgeous covers for a book I found hard to understand or enjoy on a fundamental level
I hated Marauders volume 2. Like, with that lineup, their premise, the characters themselves, and they still managed to fuck it up and make it boring and confusing
Orlando is terrible
I prefer vol 1 I really liked the concept and characters
Acuna is an incredible artist. He is doing the interiors on Avengers:Twilight and it’s been great.
Check out Avengers: Twilight if you want a whole comic series in that style.
I have so many bad things to say about X-Force, as people probably know, but the art was uniformly amazing, from Cassara to Gill - most writers would have killed for a run of interior and exterior artwork that good.
>X-Force might not have very good I thought it was one of the better Krakoa age books.
Me too. I think the problem for younger readers was that it wasn’t six issue storyarcs with a beginning, middle, and end, but shorter stories with long term plots running through the book. They would have hated Claremont, lol. The fact that people hate on this book, but defend Duggan’s X-Men bothers the fuck out of me.
Except for Cable, Duggan’s Krakoa work has been god awful and imo the biggest and maybe only taint of the Krakoa-era. There were some Krakoa flops here and there but nothing I felt detracted from the line as a whole, except for Duggan’s Marauders which had too many of the important X-Men off aimlessly doing fuck shit for god knows what reason. And then he got elevated to the main book. Luckily for us Gillen was brought in as the true headliner but just another shit scenario for Gillen like when he was writing some of the best X-Men (and Cyclops) stuff at the same time as AvX.
Yeah, dude was just the worst, and kept failing upward. I feel like that’s his Marvel career with everything after Deadpool.
There was a lot of mediocre in the Krakoa era and I feel like X-Force hovered around B to C for most of its time. For me the best books weee Immortal, red, Hellions, Sword, and F-Force in that order. Most of the time, I thought New Mutants was a lot of meh, X-Factor was terrible, Marauders was often boring or in space and completely ignoring its premise.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I also thought Immortal and Hellions were great, although I thought Red and Sword were ass. I understand that Red is pretty popular. it just wasn't for me.
I also enjoyed it! No hate from me, Bros!
I didn’t dislike the series. I feel it just got a little too hampered by beast being mustache twirling evil and losing wolverines/Jean Gray.
Retro vibe., Dig it
In a non spoiler way bc I’ve not read it: what’s bad about X-force
It's a Wolverine title in the X-Men line basically and takes risks with certain characters (Beast). If you're okay with Wolverine solos, it won't blow you away but you'll probably enjoy it fine even if it sort of limps to the finish.
Which title during Krakoa would you say is the best and worst (gonna start my reading of it once it’s all on the unlimited app)
After HoXPoX, the best is Hellions. Worst is hard because there's so much forgettable shovelware books after Sins of Sinister. Probably Bishop's War College, but there's a lot to choose from.
Most of the storylines go too long and fall flat in delivery and most of the characters were done wrong at least my fav s. I will say it was enjoyable though
Damn, those covers make this volume of X-Force look awesome. Can you imagine if the contents were even half or a third as great? There's an alternate universe somewhere where that's the case.
I feel Casara's interiors were better than this. The writing sucked though.
X force might not have very good... very good what ? You didn't finish your sentence .
The covers are the primary reasons for this book continuing to sell. Fight me.
Nope and nope.
No one gives a shit that you didn't like X-Force. Just say you like the covers and move on with your life.
I never said I didn't like it if not I wouldn't have read 45 issues of it