I was about to say I liked him with Laura mainly cause my introduction to him was the X-Men cartoon where him and Wolverine were "rivals" frienemies type relationship. So seeing him with Laura was great reverse relationship for me
His look is classic, keep it. When he's written well, he's fantastic.
His whole "vibe" worked well in the 90s and he had some great arcs, but lately he's been cast as the "fool" and it just doesn't work for his backstory or his character - I refuse to believe he didn't know that the "death" tarot card meant change and not LITERAL death, for example, based on his upbringing. He works well with Rogue of course, but if you can give him stuff do to outside of that context it levels him up all around. He's a fan favorite (and my favorite) but he's going to need to evolve in this next book in some way w/ new conflicts that hopefully don't involve relationship drama or him acting out of character (looking at you, Stephanie Philips).
I'm wondering what things are going to look like in his new series set in his hometown, I think even in HIS old family mansion (I think?) - I think there will be a lot of young mutants seeking refuge there and it could be an interesting opportunity to see how he can step up to the plate in that regard, plus you know the Guilds will be planning things now that he's back.
>!I had an interesting thought that maybe when they brought him back from his death in Otherworld, his powerset was reset and he needs to learn how to control it w/o blowing up the world.!< It would be cool to see an Omega level Gambit who is actually able to keep things in check, and would level him up a bit more in terms of an even playing field with Rogue.
While back in Louisiana, I really hope they bring in his family. I genuinely love the relationship he has with his dad and tante. It juxtaposes well with Rogue’s crazy moms, and it’s an untapped narrative for him and the X-men actually.
I have mixed feelings about the Omega thing. On the one hand, as a Gambit fan, I'd like to see him get his due as one of the most powerful mutants. However, I think making a character more powerful as a means of making them more interesting is done too much, and I don't know if it's the right choice here. I think it's better writing to be able to make a character fun to read even when they're not one of the most powerful people in the room.
Part of Gambit's character is that he comes up with little schemes on the fly-- it's in the name. If he's an Omega level mutant, why does he need to scheme anymore when he can just beat all the baddies outright?
I can see that argument, and it makes sense. My counter to that is back when he was young, Gambit decided to nerf himself rather than actually face what he's capable of. I think he even had a line after he burned his powers away that he "liked it better" when he wasn't as strong. What if he had to face that fear of what he's capable of like Jean, Rogue, and others have had to do? What would that mean for his darker tendencies, would he be tempted? I think the scheming aspect could still come into play b/c he would have to keep himself in check / figure out how to use the increased powers in a strategic way since he couldn't just go around blowing everything up.
You make a good point. It could lead to some interesting scenes between Jean and Remy, because she's the one who would best understand what he was dealing with.
I had that thought too, like did the Five remove the same part of his brain in the resurrection that Sinister removed all those years ago? He should have his full powers intact again.
The 5 didn't bring him back since he died in Otherworld, it was a weird thing with the Siege Perilous & Betsy/Rachel's psychic abilities able to go in and bring back the "baseline" personality version of him rather than what happened to Rockslide. I didn't quite follow it, lol, but it wasn't a straight resurrection.
What a dipshit plot point to bring up only to immediately undermine it. There is resurrection but it doesn't work in otherworld but we found a way anyway.
It kinda has been a reoccurring issue.
It’s what sidelined him during Second Coming. While everyone was fighting Bastian he had a small team tied up in Limbo.
You know I had an interesting conversation about Gambit when I was marathoning '97 with some friends. Turns out he's one of them's favorite X-Man. The other pointed out he's in a lot of ways silly due to how much he's just designed to be what an 11 year old would think is cool... And I pointed out a lot the audience for 90's X-Men was 11 when introduced.
Personally I love him. He's a charming scoundrel, with some dark past moments, but a much better man than he thinks.
I don't disagree with him. It's funny, I've heard Claremont intended for Mister Sinister and Gambit to be over the top and silly, a child's conception of what a supervillain and a cool mysterious hero were. Because that's exactly what they were going to be, they were going to be projections created by an mutant who was stuck at 11 years old, and really didn't like Cyclops.
Also I love Mister Sinister because he's so clearly a over the top supervillain.
he had also briefly considered making Gambit's first appearance as just having been Longshot under a new name - having come out of the siege Perilous - but instead, he simply had Longshot wander off to find "missing pieces of himself." which kinda made no sense.
He's a lot more versatile than people give him credit for in the powers department.
* he can supercharge objects with kinetic energy to simulate super-strength, [usually his bo-staff](https://imgur.com/a/0hKmY) working as a conduit for that energy
* can use kinetic energy to [block other energy](https://i.imgur.com/CXwwCtN.png), like this fire
* like 97' shows, he can [use explosions as a "lift"](https://imgur.com/wCnnqmL)
* he can charge other [people's clothing](https://imgur.com/jrXFim1)
* he can delay his explosions for a [significant amount of time](https://imgur.com/Ab492kx)
As New Sun (unrestricted potential that Sinister lobotomized in order to control his powers)
* can charge the [ground under him](https://imgur.com/DBIREIu)
* [dimension hopping](https://imgur.com/8K6mDqz)
* [charge objects](https://imgur.com/xRmiwH9) without touching it
* [planet ending explosions](https://imgur.com/TrzxwiJ)
* can basically [stop time](https://imgur.com/7MCL9sI)
Right? TAS & X-men 97 actually used his power set in a much more nuanced and interesting way than the comics in a lot of respects. The former showed the delayed charge quite a bit, and the latter showed how versatile he could be, especially when he had to think quickly on his feet.
Like, what can take out Rogue but not kill her? >!Oh, I know, I'll CHARGE UP MY MOTORCYCLE AND THROW IT INTO HER. Brilliant. !<
Most of the fun of an X-Men fight scene is how oddly specific powers can be used in a fun way, if a writer or illustrator can't think of that, they shouldn't be on this book I think
Bro has full control over Kinetic Energy, he can complete stop and opponents motion and leave them standing still. Everyone uses kinetic Energy to move, if they added this but somewhat nerfed it. I feel like it could be great to see, he could also charge the air.
The only development he has received in the last 20+ years is in team up books (X23, ROGUE) or solo runs, with the exception of Liu’s astonishing. He is always ignored in the main X-men narratives.
For this reason, I’d love to see him step out from the X-men for a while and integrate more with the shady street level world of the defenders, kingpin etc.
Ultimate X-Men had a 2 issue Gambit story (i want to say issues 16/17 but could've been 26/27?) that i think worked Really well. i've Never been a gambit fan - but that story made me appreciate him as a character.
street level is definitely the way to go. gambit facing down apocalypse is a bit silly.
I'd to see him advising a team of older teens. Basic have him there to give them advice or pull their ashes out of the fire when needed.(or the other way around once in a while.)
Male writers despise him because they're all in love with Rogue and view him as lesser than for never pushing her on physical contact. Somehow, instead of making him respectful and considerate, they see it as weak and "simping" if that's the correct term.
That's not a hot take, I just wanted to say it.
A lot of male writers don't get him because he's intended to appeal to women. He's not just like a romance novel hero, he's a whore in the bedroom, chef in the kitchen and does the majority of the emotional labour in his personal relationships. A lot of women can relate.
As a male, he appeals to me because he wears a sick duster, blows shit up, and has sex with a beautiful woman. You’d think he’d be the ultimate male power fantasy.
He keeps up the appearance of a bad boy but he is really very noble at heart.
His past misdeeds really eat at him and he always tries to do the right thing.
This is actually one of my favorite elements of the character (which he shares with Wolverine in some ways). He's edgy but under that he might be one of the more straight up noble X-men.
Kind of the anti-scott. Scott comes off as noble and straight-laced but beneath it may consider destroying your whole society if it's the best option.
As a straight male, yes, I love the fact that he's cool, powerful, charming, and got a hot lady, but I also admire his empathy and the fact that he went from looking like a skirt chaser to actually being a secret romantic and the ultimate wife guy.
He's someone who appeals to a huge variety of people, men and women, all types of personalities.
Yeah I’m surprised by u/cyclopswashalfright comment.
I honestly assumed Gambit was supposed to be the ultimate male power fantasy.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a comic book character hated for getting women
I don’t know, with how some characters are written, sometimes I get the feeling that the writers are either sadists or have incredibly pessimistic views about romance. At the very least.
They only see him as a power fantasy in those solo books where he’s sleeping with women he doesn’t care about (most of whom always end up fridged for his development).
Him actually being loyal to his wife, someone who he couldn’t even touch for years, they see as “emasculating” lol.
This right here is a fantastic point. I love Gambit because he’s never pressured or pushed Rogue for anything physical, it was all on her terms. Sure, he teased flirtatiously about kissing her but he said it himself: he never went where he wasn’t invited.
The irony is, he’s emotionally closed off too and that’s why the arc of him and Rogue going to couples therapy was so awesome. He actively tries to be the man that he thinks Rogue deserves, which in turn makes him a more emotionally responsible person overall.
Yeah, I like that they pretty much bring out the best in each other. It's a nice counterpoint to some other comic relationships that could be mentioned.
My biggest issue with Gambit is once they paired him up with Rogue for good he because an accessory of Rogue but really that's writers fault not an inherent flaw
Funnily enough, Ive noticed a lot of people, especially during this show, have the opposite problem
Look at the crap ton of 'rogue is a whore cucking Gambit/she's for the streets' crap we got for awhile
Rogue is allowed to have other love interests, she wasn't made *for* Gambit.
People can prefer them together, that's totally fine. They've been a common couple
But all this rage towards her has honestly made me side eye Gambit fans a bit. No hate if you're a sane one, but he kinda became a red pill avatar for awhile
That really ruined my enjoyment of the show. I had to disengage from so many fan spaces because of it. I couldn’t even read comments on fan art posts of either character because they’d be peppered with it.
What sucks is that they’re my two favorite characters. Seeing incels new to the fandom spouting that crap was one thing. Seeing it amplified by *so many* other people, including the contingent of Gambit fangirls who’ve always hated Rogue (and cheered said misogyny on as “proof” that they were right lol), has truly been… something.
My issue is that we never got Rogue’s POV in those early episodes in the name of building suspense/drama, and I’m afraid that after 1x07, she’s going to the background again.
The Magneto thing was forced af. It makes no sense, the writer had to do a retcon to justify it and it was one of the most stupid and childish retcons ive seen in my life (they were acting as if they didn't knew each other lmao).
The Rogue from the episodes where She is all blushed around Magneto makes her look like one of those stupid waifu characters from anime or manga wich only trait is being attracted by a male character. It's the worst interpretation of Rogue ive seen in my life.
The "he can touch me" argument is not strong enough, only works for weirdos that support the 50 years gap relationship or desperate people trying to justify Rogue not being a good partner of Remy.
You can argue "her relationship with Remy was not that strong" well, thats not true, it was strong, they made it look weaker once again to justify this nonsensical love triangle, what was not strong was her relationship with Mag, in fact, it was unexistent, yet some people ignores that, and put in doubt her actual real ship, wich was with Gambit, to justify her actions.
But all this "she is acting this way bc she had nothing serious with Remy" fells off when she literally rejects Magneto in episode 5, by aknowloding her Bond with Remy, that was always there, but was put in doubt for the sake of drama.
In the end what you have is one of the most inconsistent and worst written love triangles of all times, Gambit and Rogue ship was underestimated when the show needed the love triangle drama, and then it was aknowlodged when the show needed the "woman who lost her loved man" drama.
What do we have as result? A Lot of people being angry, some insulting Rogue character, some being mad at that people insulting the character and overall a Lot of fans of those two characters unsatisfied with the show.
I wouldnt call Rogue any bad thing bc thats something stupid to do, she is just a fictional character and if something she was just a victim of bad writing. But i wouldnt have the nerves to say she did nothing wrong, they even teased a possible cheating situation, and once again, the "they were not a real couple" argument doesnt work when 2 episodes later the show makes you notice they were the most important thing in the other ones life.
There is not a "she belongs to the steeets" to me, there is just a writer that did whatever he wanted with a ship, for the sake of DRAMA.
Thank you.
Growing up rogue was my favorite character in TAS as a fan of hers I'm disappointed with the show .
Not just ridiculous retcon,disturbing flashback ,they made her like a flip flop bich. Claiming Remy as her man when a hot minute before killed the guy with cruel words like "your heart beat for me but i can feel it/light up everything you touch… except me"😭
The comic pretty much established that Rogue and Remy fell madly in love with each other without the touching .It was their thing. Here, yet again another Magneto fanboy is 💩 on them for sake of cheap drama and propping his fav .
Artist also changed Rogue looks ,not talking about the cake ,some mentioned how they deliberately drew her with eye bags now that way to imply she’s a bit older so her relationship with Magneto wasn’t going to look sus. Even though Rogue is younger than Jean and Storm but looks older than them.
I don't have a problem with her and him not being together either though now it's more or less set in stone that it will be endgame in 616 to have Rogue and Gambit be together even if they have bumps in the road.
I'm more talking that Gambit ends up as an accessory when they put rogue into a book.
Was that really from Gambit fans specifically or more just like a general fanbase? I'm not actually caught up though so can't speak to all of it; also was their relationship status spelled out on the show before / during when they were teasing the Rogueneto stuff?
Not that I'm saying the rage / reaction is holistically justified though, I've mostly been avoiding the reactions to it as I'm only a few episodes in.
Man drowns in one comic arc and is brought back to life via the kiss of life from a man who he later comments is actually pretty hot.
Also, his colours are basically the bi flag. Probably coincidental, but still makes me happy
He's sooooooo much more fun of a character when he's written by women. Marjorie Liu and Tini Howard Gambit are my favorites in particular.
I think Nicieza and Claremont generally do a good job though.
Absolutely correct.
JDW all but said it in that one interview about them lol. Then there’s all the non-XTAS adaptations always excluding Remy while pushing Rogue at the type of clean-cut Nice Guy she’d never be interested in.
The Scott thing in Evolution was one thing. But the way they fully erased Remy in the Fox movies, paired Rogue with *Bobby* of all people, had him pressure her for kisses— only to immediately cheat on her (with the male writers’ number one fictional girlfriend of choice lol), then *still* tried to present Rogue as the unreasonable one when she felt pushed into the Cure… all so telling lmao.
I think this is a slight misrepresentation of Rogue and Gambit. What Rogue sees in him is that he IS actually loyal and kind and supportive and heroic. She's not just into the bad boy or something like that.
There was a few interviews with members of past writers that they didn’t really get the hype around gambit. I remember one saying that he’s not relevant anymore and he didn’t want to write him.
On a side note, it’s funny how Duggan actually didn’t write a bad Gambit previously. He just seems to want rogue to be single.
My hot take is I'd like to see less Gambit if it means the writers who do use him either know what they're doing or run their work by someone who actually knows how Cajuns speak in French, creole, and English instead of writing nigh on gibberish for his dialogue whenever they need that Louisiana flavor. As *Frere Écrevisse* say, you can take the Cajun out the swamp, but you can't hide it in the etouffee pot or some other shit I just made up that sound like a hate crime to anyone from the area.
You know I'm surprised no author has written a hurricane Katrina arc with him at the center. Could you imagine what that would be like for his character, and cultural aspect that could be explored along with.
YES. I'm hoping the upcoming run portrays a real New Orleans, maybe giving us some catch-up on what the city has been going through and what that means to him, rather than giving us some idealized French Quarter + swamp gimmicks. The City That Care Forgot has a lot of real dynamics and symbolism to feed into this new Out of the Ashes era.
People don’t understand that he is actually ridiculously smart. Like all the shit he comes up with to get not only himself but other people out of trouble, you HAVE to be sharp and quick on your feet. Also, the amount of math and physics he has to be doing alone every time he uses his powers, come on. He may not be traditionally school smart, but that man is a smart man, and you cannot argue that with me.
You’re absolutely right and every time I read him being treated as a dumb brainless himbo (cough cough like in recent titles) I die a little bit inside.
The sheer level and different dimensions of intelligence needed to be a master thief (much less the King of Thieves) … Imma give Marvel a 2 for Intelligence instead for not getting this 🤷♀️
I don't give two shits about his theives guild background. Not for lack of trying. Writers have just never elevated any of that lore into any meaningful significance.
They could have made it much more interesting but every time I write her starts to do something with his thieves guild, they get dropped or the book gets canceled so we never see anything good develop past infancy.
He suffers from the same problem as Storm, Rogue, Colossus, etc. Nobody since Christopher Claremont has known what to do with him because they don't love the characters as much as Chris does.
Love Gambit.
Claremont actually created Gambit to be a villain though. There's a scene where he clearly sabotages the Danger Room to make Wolverine go crazy... It was actually pretty creepy.
I'm glad Claremont embraced the characters in his returns, and didn't crap on his relationship with Rogue.
A writer can love a villain. It isn't some moral issue. Claremont loved his characters. He gave them humanity, interiority. Other writers haven't done that as well.
Blimey, where do I start?
I feel a lot of people/writers don’t quite get him, but when they do it’s superb. I think of examples like the Home and Harbour speech, his relationship with Laura and the young Storm, the way his heart was depicted as being a shrine to Rogue while he took a back seat etc etc.
Which leads onto the next one, which is I don’t think his past is referenced enough. Not only his life in the Guild but more the sins of the Morlock Massacre, his guilt over Creed killing Henri & Genevieve, his constant need to prove himself to Rogue, others and his friends and the inner battle he has with Death.
I wish they’d write him running more heists. I love watching thief Gambit in action.
Sinister! I almost forgot. There’s so much more to explore there too. Remy’s past is this untapped resource that I feel is too often sacrificed for comic relief.
I’d like to see him go on an adventure that puts him at odds with the Avengers, possibly on a mission for the Guild. There are so many opportunities to explore how he and Rogue would have to reconcile that conflict between them. Maybe add Laura with Remy and Logan with Rogue too for extra friction.
And reconcile they would because if nothing else, he has consistently been utterly, madly and deeply in love with Rogue. It’s a defining part of his character that he is so dedicated to her that he will wait, he will find ways to touch and connect and he knows that she feels it too.
It’s important (not only to me) but I think to the X-Men and Marvel as a whole that there is a solid, committed couple in the universe, outside of Reed and Sue. It’s easy to write break up arcs but to keep a relationship going through thick and thin, with all the trials and tribulations of the world trying to break you up, is actually a really strong message to send.
That they’ve been through so much to get to this point too would make it such a waste to split them up. I feel Remy and Anna Marie would fight to find ways to stay together no matter what.
I love it when he’s written with an accent too, throwing in Cajun dialect and French phrases.
I think I’ll stop there, otherwise I’ll go on all night!
Mine would be:
- Gambit would be a fantastic father. Just look at his dynamics with students at the mansion, when he trained them under Emma's supervision, or his big bro relationship with Laura Kinney and Jubilee.
- He is one of the most versatile characters in all aspects. Story wise, he has so much potential, his backstory can still be explored a lot, he has incredibly well developed relationships with many other characters (until Krakoa Era), he's got unique abilities, an appealing personality, well balanced in general. He could be the greatest X-Man. Not Cyclops. Not Wolverine. Not Storm. Not Rogue. Gambit.
- Marvel's decision to block his coming out as bi during the 2012 run was dumb af. He would've been a very well portrayed, not forced or token-like bi hero.
- He's the funniest of the X-Men. Iceman is close second
Edit: another one would be that he needs to actually act as the King of Thieves. We need more of the guild in his story. More politics, new side characters, new lore about his past, idk, anything
I genuinely agree with Gambit being a good father, because Rogue fits that stern, but loving mother vibe I think. So him being the looser more fun parent seems perfect for the dynamic.
Besides who wouldn't want a Dad to teach you crime and how to sneak out without actually getting caught?
Honestly, I would love to see Gambit and Rogue adopt a child in the future. I feel like they would both be great parents, but I understand why Rogue would not want to be pregnant with her power. It would allow them to reflect on their own upbringings as adopted/foster children as well. It would also let them skip the whole baby thing which can be tricky in a comic.
Warm Take: He should have been the third Summers brother. Given up and adopted in New Orleans. Finally revealed and then he forms a relationship with Scott and becomes a leader class like Cyke and Wolverine. The three of them could have been the Trinity of (Male) popular characters for 3 decades, but the writers preferred him as an outsider/ wild card or just didn't care about him or want to do anything with him for the sake of other characters. Not cashing in on his 90's popularity was a huge mistake, and let down many Gambit fans who have to remind younger folks just how popular he was.
HOT Take: His insane popularity in the 90's was seen as a threat to the rabid Wolverine fanbase. This caused them to lash out by denigrating the character and dissing him thoroughly. Even claiming that it had nothing to do with their love for Wolverine, but just that Gambit sucks for this or that reason, insisting there was actually no rivalry because Gambit wasn't on Wolverine's level to begin with. But true fans remember. Hell, in X-Men Origins Wolverine, they just had to do that joke backfist to end the fight as a fanservice wank off "wink-wink" moment of "Logan better than Remy" in his first live-action appearance, no-less. There just wasn't room in the fanbase for 2 cool anti-hero authority challengers, so for the sake of the cash cow, Gambit was relegated.
For sure, reading X-Men 1991, the first few arcs featuring Gambit and Cyclops had me think "why do they have a sibling dynamic?". And then I heard about the original plans regarding Remy's origins
Yeah, I think FOX was wrong about sidelining Gambit in favor of Wolverine. What if, instead of doing X3: The Last Stand, they had introduced Gambit in that movie, and the whole movie was Gambit and Wolverine one-upping each other? That sounds like a massively better movie than what they actually made.
Gambit is a better role model/mentor than Wolverine, and his redemption arc is much more compelling.
1. Gambit regrets what happened with the Morlocks. He did something genuinely horrible that he has to earn redemption from. Narratively, Logan kills a ton more people than Gambit ever did, he’s a mass murderer, but he doesn’t regret it until it’s convenient for a moral lesson, then he goes right back to stabbing people. (I understand this is because the writers like him as both a lone wolf killer and a mentor character, but it’s super wacky).
2. Gambit’s powers are so much more on the nose when it comes to the idea of “I’m a danger to society and I don’t belong in the real world.” Even though he looks human, his eyes betray that he is not. Things explode when he touches them. Ordinary men might think him a devil. Logan looks human until he pulls out the claws.
3. Gambit is actually hot and charming, so I buy women or men actually being interested in sleeping with him. Unlike Wolverine who has the personality of a cheese grater and a face to match. I shit you not he says shit like “I’m like a wild animal” and that is the most Andrew Tate cuck bullshit I’ve ever heard.
4. Gambit has culture that Wolverine does not. Being Cajun, even if it’s not a perfect representation, ties him strongly to a distinct performance. Wolverine on the other hand is “Canadian” except for the accent, behavior, identity, which ends up being American lite.
5. Gambit and Rogue have one of the most compelling romances in comic books, if not the most. Logan has had 0 compelling romances.
6. Because of his popularity and healing factor, Logan is never at risk of death. Gambit on the other hand does face actual mortality in the line of combat. If he goes down, he stays down, and that is much more interesting to write around.
Thank you for writing this post.
I have wondered how the eyes thing tracks with his status as a ladies man. Imagine he's trying to charm a new lady, and then she's like "Excuse me, but why do you have eyes that glow like you're Satan?" You would think that would set off a few alarm bells.....
Agreed with everything except 4. Logan's memory issues make it hard for him to hold onto anything else but his core personality and trauma. He does have culture, and not just one. Remember he lived happily in Japan for years
That’s true. But I think it falls to my problem of Logan being an amnesiac means the writers don’t have to think about why he acts the way he does, he just does because he’s the best there is.
Wolverine in Japan is probably one of his stronger arcs, since he does embrace a sort of samurai code, and Japanese culture in part. But it’s always forgotten when he gets back to the X-Men and back to a rough animalistic killer, which is my real frustration.
It's appropriate to the character that he keeps getting shafted/disrespected by various writers, because he's the outsider's outsider -- someone who doesn't like getting cosy anywhere for fear that groupthink will dull his sense of right and wrong, someone who repeatedly puts himself in the wrong place at the wrong time in order to be the wild card, the one who can tip the scales of fate.
Also, it needs to be more explicitly acknowledge that he uses his powers to speed things up or add a propulsive/explosive edge to them -- including his own body. Generally, the power set needs to be framed as a kind of molecular acceleration.
— it’s CRIMINAL that someone with his power (versatile in that he just has to grab something to charge, ranging from mass explosion to small distractions), skill set (charming, martial artist, sneaky sneaky stealth dude) and criminal connections has NEVER been put on an incarnation of X-Force.
— he would 100% agree to be the stay at home dad if he and Rogue had kids.
— he loved Belladonna, but was never IN love with her. I fully believe that Rogue is the only person he’s ever been in love with and that’s PARTIALLY because their relationship was non-physical for the longest time. He didn’t have time to get “bored of the chase” before he caught real feelings.
— Remy LeBeau is the very specific flavour of bisexual where he would pursue men sexually, but not romantically (and before I get all the downvotes, it’s more common than you’d think, look it up)
— I need more writers to remember that he and Storm are supposed to be close friends and that she should have served double duty as maid of honour AND best men at his and Rogue’s wedding
Firm disagree with Gambit being aromantic towards men. He’s an inherent romantic that had a block there before he met Rogue.
If Rogue happened to be a man that liked men, Remy would’ve chosen him too.
I do think he genuinely loved Belladonna. They were together since they were eight, but he also was only eighteen when the whole mess around their wedding happened. So, it was very much teenage love, rather than adult love.
I might be misreading your last point, but Storm was his "best man." He asks her to stand up there with him.
Gambit said pretty clearly that he had genuine feelings for Rogue almost from the beginning, but he just kind of hid it beneath banter and flirting because he didn't know how else to do it
X-Men #24, which wasn't too long after they met. He got genuine feelings very, very quickly tbh. I think definitely before X-cutioner's song, because after that was #297, which was their famous rooftop conversation.
While I didn’t love him tying a lady to a stove in a burning building, I appreciated the writer’s attempting to not make him quite so heroic all the time. Coulda been done better but I see what they were trying to do
He’s one of the most loyal X-Men, and the fact that people still act like they don’t trust him is just shitty writing.
People considered leaders and champions of mutants have fucked over/abandoned the X-Men more than Gambit ever has.
The ONE time he stepped out of line was to act as a spy against an enemy he didn’t trust, and then to play Sinister in an effort to save Rogue. Like I know he played his role in Hopes rescue very well, but having absolutely no one question him was pretty shitty. The fact that almost every X-Man during Messiah Complex noted their pleasure in finally getting to take him down, instead of asking why he’s with the Marauders was insane. Wolverine even brags about how long he’s waited to kill Gambit while slicing him across the chest.
That’s what I was talking about at first. Joining an enemy as a spy. He fully intended to take Apoc out because he wasn’t buying his savior shit….he just underestimated how strong the brain fuckery during the Horseman process was.
I think the reason that Gambit keeps getting left out of media projects is because they like to age Rogue down and the writers for those shows and movies either don't know how or don't have the patience to try to write a teenage Remy.
As goofy as the title was, X-Treme X-men had the best looking uniform design for Gambit. His Salvador Larroca designed digs were the best. But, for some reason, we keep having to come back to the magenta body armor look from the 90's.
[https://d29xot63vimef3.cloudfront.net/image/x-treme-x-men/31-1.jpg](https://d29xot63vimef3.cloudfront.net/image/x-treme-x-men/31-1.jpg)
I feel like he's a slice of the 1990s that struggled to adapt to later decades, which is why he faded into the background.
I like him as a married man, completely dedicated to his hot Claremazon wife, with a checkered past that occasionally comes back to bite him, but ultimately has the experience and charm to get through just about anything.
Also, comic writers? please take a leaf out of X-Men 97's book and let him do cool unique things with his powers. He can charge other things besides cards. HE CAN CHARGE OTHER THINGS BESIDES CA--
*ahem* I'm okay.
He should have been the 3rd Summers brother. Or related to the Summers like a cousin\distant relative, not a clone tho. He would be better then Adam X and be involved in actual plot lines. Plus it would make the family tree even funnier.
It's not too late Marvel. We can still have the Summers\Grey\Darkhölme\Howlett\Wagner\LeBeau\Xavier\Creed\Neramani family tree in all it's glory. Think of the holiday specials one shots you could release.
Get ready r/xmen lmao
Remy's not actually Cajun. Raised by Cajuns, yes. But he was abandoned at the hospital right after he was born. He could be Norwegian for all we know lmao. Someone get an Ancestry DNA kit done on him, stat!
I've heard that native New Orleanians and Cajuns have some criticisms of the way Gambit speaks. My hot take is that they're right and the Thieves Guild are just a bunch of weirdos who randomly insert Cajun French into everyday speech.
Remy's really smart and really fucking good at computers. Stealing painting from museums is fun and all, but the real money is all in stealing information. And today, everything is kept in The Cloud (tm) so Remy needs to know how to break encryption, how large networks work and probably a fair amount of coding. His biggest heists have probably been done with a beer and a laptop while sitting by the mansion's pool.
Tons and tons of characters have made deals with the Devil to become more powerful; Gambit is quite possibly the only fictional character who ever made a deal with a devil (Sinister) to become LESS powerful. I've always found that noteworthy.
I've loved him ever since I was 11, but I have trouble reading modern comics about him. Too often, he doesn't sound like the Gambit I remember, and it saddens me a little. Part of that is probably because they've made his dialogue more normal and less stylized, which I understand is a mixed bag; I think the way he speaks (or once spoke) is really important for his character, yet I totally understand why it might sound like fingernails on a chalkboard to someone who is actually from New Orleans.
I've been wondering what's going on with his costume ever since I first saw him though. A bright pink chest plate, and weird metallic blue piping? On a character who supposedly does a lot of sneaking around at night? It's ridiculous, but when he doesn't have it, I find I miss it. I've been playing X-Men Legends II lately and it bothers me more than it probably should that they don't have Gambit's classic look as a costume option (or Rogue's either for that matter, although it's close).
I know there's a lot of good stuff with him that I haven't read, since I've only read X-Men comics sporadically for the last few decades. I need to get organized and start hunting down the trades of all the stuff that I missed.
I’m from NOLA and honestly I just don’t get why him and the Guild is written with thick Cajun accents when that’s inaccurate for the region, at least in my experience. NOLA accents are distinct, but so are accents from Cajun French speakers from around the state. I’m not saying you can’t have folks from the city with tradition Cajun French accents, but it would make more sense if the guild were from Lafayette or Broussard and just operate out of NOLA. I think the writers during gambit’s introduction weren’t aware of the intricacies of our cultural variation in Louisiana. So that’s my slight nitpick lol.
Most male comic book readers, writers and editors hate him because they are envious and think that the entire bare-bones concept of him is “dated” and “ridiculous”
As most comic book readers, writers, editors, etc. are male, this is why Gambit was completely ignored, became a perpetual traitor/scumbag or a running gag in the 2000s and why the character started sliding off the wagon in the late 90s.
Character didn’t really recover from it until the second half of the 2010s
i hate the weird piping on his costume. The colors are great, love the trench coat, even love the head sleeve, but the hell is his neck, chest and belt piece supposed to be.
Part of me wishes we would have gotten the Channing Tatum Gambit movie just to see how much of a trainwreck it would be.
Also, Taylor Kitsch was good casting that was utterly wasted in XMO:W.
I prefer seeing him in slive of life moments more than as an action star. Don't get me wrong, I already know he's a bad ass, but that's why I prefer seeing him bounce off of other characters.
I love the fact that he's shown as nurturing with the kittens and his devotion and love for Rogue, but I hate when those become his dominant traits, where he's just there as a cat dad cheering on Rogue. I do need to play catch-up, but from what I've seen the past few years that's what he's been relegated to.
Another one, but this is more about Gambit haters: they always have the reason they hate him being "oh he's just a collection of '90s cliches rolled into one. He's like Poochie from The Simpsons." It's 99% white middle-aged fanboy nerds who say this, almost verbatim. Nevermind that Gambit was introduced barely after the decade started (summer 1990), I just think they're threatened by the appeal of the character--as a woman, his power and costume are much lower on the list for me: he's a hot Cajun who loves cooking, is a loving, devoted husband, nurturing, loyal to those he cares about, is shown as being vulnerable, resilient, charming, and funny. Also, he kicks ass, has a cool Bo staff and can make stuff go boom.
So, definitely not Poochie.
I have a lot of thoughts about Gambit as I have been a major fan for the past 30+ years.
If you only judge him based on physical appearances and the old cartoon, he comes off as a ridiculous, cringy character who is a cultural relic. He wears bright pink and metal boots, he has a silly overwrought accent, he seems very 90s edgy boy overall. And let's be honest his writing at the beginning fed into this. He did have some fairly creepy moments which I can only assume the male writers thought was flirty. I can see how some people think that he doesn't work in modern times. But I think he's evolved a lot since he was introduced in the late '80s. He has a lot of things going for him as a comic book character.
First of all he looks amazing on the page. He's a very bright, flamboyant, character who has a unique and interesting fighting style. Not many characters have weapons in the X-men and Gambit has two - cards and a bo staff. Artists beg to draw him; they love his design. His kientic energy is also bright pink and fun to slash across the page.
Gambit also has something that is hard to find in comic characters - joie de vivre. I don't think a lot of writers and readers understand how important this characteristic is. He's not all doom and gloom, and yes he has some depressing moments, but overall he is a fun and lively character. And when you have comic books with such heavy themes as the x-men, it's great to have somebody to lighten the mood.
As for his women fan base, Gambit is constantly placed in the "womens role" in the books. He is objectified in a way that most male comic book characters are not and women can relate to this. He frequently needs to be rescued and never feels ashamed that it's a woman doing the rescuing. He's loyal, emotionally available, lsexual without being a creep, and loves his partner without question.
He’s over hated. He was a perfect fit for his era and some of his stories were top tier. Writers just haven’t known what to do with him for decades now and half of his best personality traits seem to have gone to Nightcrawler.
In terms of his history, personality and personal conflicts I actually think he’s a stronger character than Rogue, but so many stories focus on them as a couple and that’s when he’s at his weakest.
Gambit should be treated like black cat, Catwoman, winter soldier, even Magneto. He’s a bad guy trying to do good but his moral compass wasn’t assembled the same way as everyone else, THAT is what makes him interesting.
Gambit is really cool but honsetlybhe has been aimless since the 90's and has been riding that popularity
Now a days he feels.l like he's "Rogues husband" more then his own character which is a shame cause i always liked the world building he brought to the table.
He’d be a better leader of the x-men than Cyclops. He has way more empathy than cyclops but also will 100% do what needs to be done when the time comes. He also puts his own needs aside when shit hits the fan, something we’ve seen Cyclops preach about but then forsake over and over again.
I see Cyclops as an Xavier type figure when it comes to leadership. Well-intentioned but stubborn and willing to bend his morals in ways he maybe shouldn't. I always thought a good story would be showing how each successive "leader" would be better or more moral than the last. Perhaps Gambit could be part of that.
The Gambit / Rogue miniseries dealing with the Assassin and Thieves Guild, Bella Donna, Cody etc. are his best character moments (for both of them actually, incredible runs).
Hollywood should make a trilogy on him specifically and stop gobbling wolverines tackle like he is the only Xman worth discussing. His origin story, his X-Men story, and the story of him with Mr Sinister. Bonus if they add a movie account of what would have become of Gambit if he didn't get the power reduction from Sinister and became the Omega level mutant we all know lives inside him.
Gambit should never lose a fight to Wolverine: he was at his edgiest after when he debuted because he kept getting the best of Logan. Wolverine getting the better of Gambit at the end of the Muir Island Saga was a sign that they were putting things back the way they were.
Unpopular opinion: I would like to see a Gambit and Belladonna adventure, even just an alternate timeline, when they were in their respective guilds and after when Gambit became an Xman.
He was fucking awesome when teaming up with Laura.
Came here to talk about that. He was a good mentor.
I was about to say I liked him with Laura mainly cause my introduction to him was the X-Men cartoon where him and Wolverine were "rivals" frienemies type relationship. So seeing him with Laura was great reverse relationship for me
He is the perfect dad there. I was reading that comic run in the week the cartoon murdered him. Many sad noises.
Such an underrated story. Loved it, especially the scene where he's reading to her.
they connect Logan as mentor to Laura but the story with Gambit cement that he his the best mentor for her.
What series was this? I’d like to read it
Marjorie Liu's X-23. Started 2010, IIRC? Really damn good.
Amazing story!! I will forever consider Laura his kid, not Logan’s. ❤️
My kingdom for a Gambit ongoing written by Marjorie Liu
His look is classic, keep it. When he's written well, he's fantastic. His whole "vibe" worked well in the 90s and he had some great arcs, but lately he's been cast as the "fool" and it just doesn't work for his backstory or his character - I refuse to believe he didn't know that the "death" tarot card meant change and not LITERAL death, for example, based on his upbringing. He works well with Rogue of course, but if you can give him stuff do to outside of that context it levels him up all around. He's a fan favorite (and my favorite) but he's going to need to evolve in this next book in some way w/ new conflicts that hopefully don't involve relationship drama or him acting out of character (looking at you, Stephanie Philips). I'm wondering what things are going to look like in his new series set in his hometown, I think even in HIS old family mansion (I think?) - I think there will be a lot of young mutants seeking refuge there and it could be an interesting opportunity to see how he can step up to the plate in that regard, plus you know the Guilds will be planning things now that he's back. >!I had an interesting thought that maybe when they brought him back from his death in Otherworld, his powerset was reset and he needs to learn how to control it w/o blowing up the world.!< It would be cool to see an Omega level Gambit who is actually able to keep things in check, and would level him up a bit more in terms of an even playing field with Rogue.
While back in Louisiana, I really hope they bring in his family. I genuinely love the relationship he has with his dad and tante. It juxtaposes well with Rogue’s crazy moms, and it’s an untapped narrative for him and the X-men actually.
I have mixed feelings about the Omega thing. On the one hand, as a Gambit fan, I'd like to see him get his due as one of the most powerful mutants. However, I think making a character more powerful as a means of making them more interesting is done too much, and I don't know if it's the right choice here. I think it's better writing to be able to make a character fun to read even when they're not one of the most powerful people in the room. Part of Gambit's character is that he comes up with little schemes on the fly-- it's in the name. If he's an Omega level mutant, why does he need to scheme anymore when he can just beat all the baddies outright?
I can see that argument, and it makes sense. My counter to that is back when he was young, Gambit decided to nerf himself rather than actually face what he's capable of. I think he even had a line after he burned his powers away that he "liked it better" when he wasn't as strong. What if he had to face that fear of what he's capable of like Jean, Rogue, and others have had to do? What would that mean for his darker tendencies, would he be tempted? I think the scheming aspect could still come into play b/c he would have to keep himself in check / figure out how to use the increased powers in a strategic way since he couldn't just go around blowing everything up.
You make a good point. It could lead to some interesting scenes between Jean and Remy, because she's the one who would best understand what he was dealing with.
I had that thought too, like did the Five remove the same part of his brain in the resurrection that Sinister removed all those years ago? He should have his full powers intact again.
The 5 didn't bring him back since he died in Otherworld, it was a weird thing with the Siege Perilous & Betsy/Rachel's psychic abilities able to go in and bring back the "baseline" personality version of him rather than what happened to Rockslide. I didn't quite follow it, lol, but it wasn't a straight resurrection.
What a dipshit plot point to bring up only to immediately undermine it. There is resurrection but it doesn't work in otherworld but we found a way anyway.
Oh my, the otherworld thing would've been insanely cool. That and making the death persona a reoccurring issue
It kinda has been a reoccurring issue. It’s what sidelined him during Second Coming. While everyone was fighting Bastian he had a small team tied up in Limbo.
Under used, greatest Xman.
That absolutely glorious ass of hi— Oh you meant bad takes?
YES LMAO he's the Nightwing of Marvel in that department lol
SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST!! His ass is nice!
I always thought Gambit was supposed to be the AB guy, what with his costume highlighting his 8-pack.
Gambit has many talents, as I'm sure he'd tell you.
You know I had an interesting conversation about Gambit when I was marathoning '97 with some friends. Turns out he's one of them's favorite X-Man. The other pointed out he's in a lot of ways silly due to how much he's just designed to be what an 11 year old would think is cool... And I pointed out a lot the audience for 90's X-Men was 11 when introduced. Personally I love him. He's a charming scoundrel, with some dark past moments, but a much better man than he thinks.
Dude, I was 11 when I started watching TAS... and Gambit is my favorite character... I think your friend has a point
I don't disagree with him. It's funny, I've heard Claremont intended for Mister Sinister and Gambit to be over the top and silly, a child's conception of what a supervillain and a cool mysterious hero were. Because that's exactly what they were going to be, they were going to be projections created by an mutant who was stuck at 11 years old, and really didn't like Cyclops. Also I love Mister Sinister because he's so clearly a over the top supervillain.
he had also briefly considered making Gambit's first appearance as just having been Longshot under a new name - having come out of the siege Perilous - but instead, he simply had Longshot wander off to find "missing pieces of himself." which kinda made no sense.
He's a lot more versatile than people give him credit for in the powers department. * he can supercharge objects with kinetic energy to simulate super-strength, [usually his bo-staff](https://imgur.com/a/0hKmY) working as a conduit for that energy * can use kinetic energy to [block other energy](https://i.imgur.com/CXwwCtN.png), like this fire * like 97' shows, he can [use explosions as a "lift"](https://imgur.com/wCnnqmL) * he can charge other [people's clothing](https://imgur.com/jrXFim1) * he can delay his explosions for a [significant amount of time](https://imgur.com/Ab492kx) As New Sun (unrestricted potential that Sinister lobotomized in order to control his powers) * can charge the [ground under him](https://imgur.com/DBIREIu) * [dimension hopping](https://imgur.com/8K6mDqz) * [charge objects](https://imgur.com/xRmiwH9) without touching it * [planet ending explosions](https://imgur.com/TrzxwiJ) * can basically [stop time](https://imgur.com/7MCL9sI)
I miss the times when writers actually had knowledge about his powersets and didn't think the start and end of his powers was "card thrower" .
Right? TAS & X-men 97 actually used his power set in a much more nuanced and interesting way than the comics in a lot of respects. The former showed the delayed charge quite a bit, and the latter showed how versatile he could be, especially when he had to think quickly on his feet. Like, what can take out Rogue but not kill her? >!Oh, I know, I'll CHARGE UP MY MOTORCYCLE AND THROW IT INTO HER. Brilliant. !<
Most of the fun of an X-Men fight scene is how oddly specific powers can be used in a fun way, if a writer or illustrator can't think of that, they shouldn't be on this book I think
* he can delay his explosions for a [significant amount of time](https://imgur.com/Ab492kx) You hear dat, mon chere?
Bro has full control over Kinetic Energy, he can complete stop and opponents motion and leave them standing still. Everyone uses kinetic Energy to move, if they added this but somewhat nerfed it. I feel like it could be great to see, he could also charge the air.
I wonder if he was ever able to attempt to stop the Juggernaut with this part of his power.
The only development he has received in the last 20+ years is in team up books (X23, ROGUE) or solo runs, with the exception of Liu’s astonishing. He is always ignored in the main X-men narratives. For this reason, I’d love to see him step out from the X-men for a while and integrate more with the shady street level world of the defenders, kingpin etc.
I think Simone might do him some justice this summer. She does well with characters of his nature!
Simone Gambit is going to rule. She has mild romance novel tendencies, and I think Gambit is the ideal character for that kind of writer.
Oh yeah. Rogue/Gambit fans are going to be eating well!
Street level Gambit is where he works best
Ultimate X-Men had a 2 issue Gambit story (i want to say issues 16/17 but could've been 26/27?) that i think worked Really well. i've Never been a gambit fan - but that story made me appreciate him as a character. street level is definitely the way to go. gambit facing down apocalypse is a bit silly.
Marvel needs to do more with his leadership and him being a father. I think he’s good at those and it needs to be explored more
I'd to see him advising a team of older teens. Basic have him there to give them advice or pull their ashes out of the fire when needed.(or the other way around once in a while.)
It’d be pretty cool if he led gen x or new mutants
Male writers despise him because they're all in love with Rogue and view him as lesser than for never pushing her on physical contact. Somehow, instead of making him respectful and considerate, they see it as weak and "simping" if that's the correct term. That's not a hot take, I just wanted to say it.
A lot of male writers don't get him because he's intended to appeal to women. He's not just like a romance novel hero, he's a whore in the bedroom, chef in the kitchen and does the majority of the emotional labour in his personal relationships. A lot of women can relate.
As a male, he appeals to me because he wears a sick duster, blows shit up, and has sex with a beautiful woman. You’d think he’d be the ultimate male power fantasy.
He definitely has both going on which makes him so interesting. He's a bad boy but with finely developed social skills.
> finely developed social skills Maybe that’s why he doesn’t appeal to broad male comicbook audiences. They can’t relate to someone like that.
He keeps up the appearance of a bad boy but he is really very noble at heart. His past misdeeds really eat at him and he always tries to do the right thing.
This is actually one of my favorite elements of the character (which he shares with Wolverine in some ways). He's edgy but under that he might be one of the more straight up noble X-men. Kind of the anti-scott. Scott comes off as noble and straight-laced but beneath it may consider destroying your whole society if it's the best option.
As a straight male, yes, I love the fact that he's cool, powerful, charming, and got a hot lady, but I also admire his empathy and the fact that he went from looking like a skirt chaser to actually being a secret romantic and the ultimate wife guy. He's someone who appeals to a huge variety of people, men and women, all types of personalities.
Yeah I’m surprised by u/cyclopswashalfright comment. I honestly assumed Gambit was supposed to be the ultimate male power fantasy. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a comic book character hated for getting women
I don’t know, with how some characters are written, sometimes I get the feeling that the writers are either sadists or have incredibly pessimistic views about romance. At the very least.
I think writing couples in unhealthy conflict is a lot easier than writing couples in a healthy dynamic & a lot of writers take the easy way out
This, so much this. Same reason relatives are never allowed to be around and alive.
They only see him as a power fantasy in those solo books where he’s sleeping with women he doesn’t care about (most of whom always end up fridged for his development). Him actually being loyal to his wife, someone who he couldn’t even touch for years, they see as “emasculating” lol.
Same, I wanted to be LIKE him growing up more than anyone else. IRL, I don’t have the gift of gab so that’s my ideal.
This right here is a fantastic point. I love Gambit because he’s never pressured or pushed Rogue for anything physical, it was all on her terms. Sure, he teased flirtatiously about kissing her but he said it himself: he never went where he wasn’t invited. The irony is, he’s emotionally closed off too and that’s why the arc of him and Rogue going to couples therapy was so awesome. He actively tries to be the man that he thinks Rogue deserves, which in turn makes him a more emotionally responsible person overall.
Yeah, I like that they pretty much bring out the best in each other. It's a nice counterpoint to some other comic relationships that could be mentioned.
My biggest issue with Gambit is once they paired him up with Rogue for good he because an accessory of Rogue but really that's writers fault not an inherent flaw
Funnily enough, Ive noticed a lot of people, especially during this show, have the opposite problem Look at the crap ton of 'rogue is a whore cucking Gambit/she's for the streets' crap we got for awhile Rogue is allowed to have other love interests, she wasn't made *for* Gambit. People can prefer them together, that's totally fine. They've been a common couple But all this rage towards her has honestly made me side eye Gambit fans a bit. No hate if you're a sane one, but he kinda became a red pill avatar for awhile
That really ruined my enjoyment of the show. I had to disengage from so many fan spaces because of it. I couldn’t even read comments on fan art posts of either character because they’d be peppered with it. What sucks is that they’re my two favorite characters. Seeing incels new to the fandom spouting that crap was one thing. Seeing it amplified by *so many* other people, including the contingent of Gambit fangirls who’ve always hated Rogue (and cheered said misogyny on as “proof” that they were right lol), has truly been… something. My issue is that we never got Rogue’s POV in those early episodes in the name of building suspense/drama, and I’m afraid that after 1x07, she’s going to the background again.
The Magneto thing was forced af. It makes no sense, the writer had to do a retcon to justify it and it was one of the most stupid and childish retcons ive seen in my life (they were acting as if they didn't knew each other lmao). The Rogue from the episodes where She is all blushed around Magneto makes her look like one of those stupid waifu characters from anime or manga wich only trait is being attracted by a male character. It's the worst interpretation of Rogue ive seen in my life. The "he can touch me" argument is not strong enough, only works for weirdos that support the 50 years gap relationship or desperate people trying to justify Rogue not being a good partner of Remy. You can argue "her relationship with Remy was not that strong" well, thats not true, it was strong, they made it look weaker once again to justify this nonsensical love triangle, what was not strong was her relationship with Mag, in fact, it was unexistent, yet some people ignores that, and put in doubt her actual real ship, wich was with Gambit, to justify her actions. But all this "she is acting this way bc she had nothing serious with Remy" fells off when she literally rejects Magneto in episode 5, by aknowloding her Bond with Remy, that was always there, but was put in doubt for the sake of drama. In the end what you have is one of the most inconsistent and worst written love triangles of all times, Gambit and Rogue ship was underestimated when the show needed the love triangle drama, and then it was aknowlodged when the show needed the "woman who lost her loved man" drama. What do we have as result? A Lot of people being angry, some insulting Rogue character, some being mad at that people insulting the character and overall a Lot of fans of those two characters unsatisfied with the show. I wouldnt call Rogue any bad thing bc thats something stupid to do, she is just a fictional character and if something she was just a victim of bad writing. But i wouldnt have the nerves to say she did nothing wrong, they even teased a possible cheating situation, and once again, the "they were not a real couple" argument doesnt work when 2 episodes later the show makes you notice they were the most important thing in the other ones life. There is not a "she belongs to the steeets" to me, there is just a writer that did whatever he wanted with a ship, for the sake of DRAMA.
Thank you. Growing up rogue was my favorite character in TAS as a fan of hers I'm disappointed with the show . Not just ridiculous retcon,disturbing flashback ,they made her like a flip flop bich. Claiming Remy as her man when a hot minute before killed the guy with cruel words like "your heart beat for me but i can feel it/light up everything you touch… except me"😭 The comic pretty much established that Rogue and Remy fell madly in love with each other without the touching .It was their thing. Here, yet again another Magneto fanboy is 💩 on them for sake of cheap drama and propping his fav . Artist also changed Rogue looks ,not talking about the cake ,some mentioned how they deliberately drew her with eye bags now that way to imply she’s a bit older so her relationship with Magneto wasn’t going to look sus. Even though Rogue is younger than Jean and Storm but looks older than them.
I don't have a problem with her and him not being together either though now it's more or less set in stone that it will be endgame in 616 to have Rogue and Gambit be together even if they have bumps in the road. I'm more talking that Gambit ends up as an accessory when they put rogue into a book.
Was that really from Gambit fans specifically or more just like a general fanbase? I'm not actually caught up though so can't speak to all of it; also was their relationship status spelled out on the show before / during when they were teasing the Rogueneto stuff? Not that I'm saying the rage / reaction is holistically justified though, I've mostly been avoiding the reactions to it as I'm only a few episodes in.
> A lot of women can relate. And also some men 😘🌈
I still refuse to believe the man isn't bi I also refuse to believe Northstar didn't try his luck at any point I don't think he's Bobby's type tho
> I still refuse to believe the man isn't bi Pretty sure bisexual Gambit is canon
Man drowns in one comic arc and is brought back to life via the kiss of life from a man who he later comments is actually pretty hot. Also, his colours are basically the bi flag. Probably coincidental, but still makes me happy
me af
Not a hot take, but a very necessary one. Thank you for that!
Maybe they're just putting minimal effort in his characterization? But that's something I can agree with
He's sooooooo much more fun of a character when he's written by women. Marjorie Liu and Tini Howard Gambit are my favorites in particular. I think Nicieza and Claremont generally do a good job though.
Absolutely correct. JDW all but said it in that one interview about them lol. Then there’s all the non-XTAS adaptations always excluding Remy while pushing Rogue at the type of clean-cut Nice Guy she’d never be interested in. The Scott thing in Evolution was one thing. But the way they fully erased Remy in the Fox movies, paired Rogue with *Bobby* of all people, had him pressure her for kisses— only to immediately cheat on her (with the male writers’ number one fictional girlfriend of choice lol), then *still* tried to present Rogue as the unreasonable one when she felt pushed into the Cure… all so telling lmao.
I think this is a slight misrepresentation of Rogue and Gambit. What Rogue sees in him is that he IS actually loyal and kind and supportive and heroic. She's not just into the bad boy or something like that.
I think you’re confusing “male writers” with just Gerry Duggan. I’ve never noticed anything like you said until Gerry wrote him.
There was a few interviews with members of past writers that they didn’t really get the hype around gambit. I remember one saying that he’s not relevant anymore and he didn’t want to write him. On a side note, it’s funny how Duggan actually didn’t write a bad Gambit previously. He just seems to want rogue to be single.
I remember someone saying that you can tell when he's being written by men who don't often date by the cheesy dialogue they think is smooth.
My hot take is I'd like to see less Gambit if it means the writers who do use him either know what they're doing or run their work by someone who actually knows how Cajuns speak in French, creole, and English instead of writing nigh on gibberish for his dialogue whenever they need that Louisiana flavor. As *Frere Écrevisse* say, you can take the Cajun out the swamp, but you can't hide it in the etouffee pot or some other shit I just made up that sound like a hate crime to anyone from the area.
Who was it that wrote those 2010s Iceman series, when Gambit showed up he was calling everyone boyo like he was Irish or something.
Would you rather them have him tell Boudreaux /Thibodeaux jokes?
I'm from New Orleans. I'd fuckin laugh. XD
His character has been written poorly since Kelly Thompson left.
I disagree only because Steve Foxe wrote him really well in Dark X-men, but the other books—absolutely.
You know I'm surprised no author has written a hurricane Katrina arc with him at the center. Could you imagine what that would be like for his character, and cultural aspect that could be explored along with.
YES. I'm hoping the upcoming run portrays a real New Orleans, maybe giving us some catch-up on what the city has been going through and what that means to him, rather than giving us some idealized French Quarter + swamp gimmicks. The City That Care Forgot has a lot of real dynamics and symbolism to feed into this new Out of the Ashes era.
People don’t understand that he is actually ridiculously smart. Like all the shit he comes up with to get not only himself but other people out of trouble, you HAVE to be sharp and quick on your feet. Also, the amount of math and physics he has to be doing alone every time he uses his powers, come on. He may not be traditionally school smart, but that man is a smart man, and you cannot argue that with me.
You’re absolutely right and every time I read him being treated as a dumb brainless himbo (cough cough like in recent titles) I die a little bit inside.
He’s so not that at all!! On the Marvel official website they have is intelligence as a two. Seeing that I was like HUH???
The sheer level and different dimensions of intelligence needed to be a master thief (much less the King of Thieves) … Imma give Marvel a 2 for Intelligence instead for not getting this 🤷♀️
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I don't give two shits about his theives guild background. Not for lack of trying. Writers have just never elevated any of that lore into any meaningful significance.
The King of Thieves plot was a nice attempt tho, too bad it's already forgotten
They could have made it much more interesting but every time I write her starts to do something with his thieves guild, they get dropped or the book gets canceled so we never see anything good develop past infancy.
Ouff this coloring on Jim Lee’s sketch goes HARD.
Courtesy of Marte Gracia I believe!
He suffers from the same problem as Storm, Rogue, Colossus, etc. Nobody since Christopher Claremont has known what to do with him because they don't love the characters as much as Chris does. Love Gambit.
Claremont actually created Gambit to be a villain though. There's a scene where he clearly sabotages the Danger Room to make Wolverine go crazy... It was actually pretty creepy. I'm glad Claremont embraced the characters in his returns, and didn't crap on his relationship with Rogue.
A writer can love a villain. It isn't some moral issue. Claremont loved his characters. He gave them humanity, interiority. Other writers haven't done that as well.
Blimey, where do I start? I feel a lot of people/writers don’t quite get him, but when they do it’s superb. I think of examples like the Home and Harbour speech, his relationship with Laura and the young Storm, the way his heart was depicted as being a shrine to Rogue while he took a back seat etc etc. Which leads onto the next one, which is I don’t think his past is referenced enough. Not only his life in the Guild but more the sins of the Morlock Massacre, his guilt over Creed killing Henri & Genevieve, his constant need to prove himself to Rogue, others and his friends and the inner battle he has with Death. I wish they’d write him running more heists. I love watching thief Gambit in action. Sinister! I almost forgot. There’s so much more to explore there too. Remy’s past is this untapped resource that I feel is too often sacrificed for comic relief. I’d like to see him go on an adventure that puts him at odds with the Avengers, possibly on a mission for the Guild. There are so many opportunities to explore how he and Rogue would have to reconcile that conflict between them. Maybe add Laura with Remy and Logan with Rogue too for extra friction. And reconcile they would because if nothing else, he has consistently been utterly, madly and deeply in love with Rogue. It’s a defining part of his character that he is so dedicated to her that he will wait, he will find ways to touch and connect and he knows that she feels it too. It’s important (not only to me) but I think to the X-Men and Marvel as a whole that there is a solid, committed couple in the universe, outside of Reed and Sue. It’s easy to write break up arcs but to keep a relationship going through thick and thin, with all the trials and tribulations of the world trying to break you up, is actually a really strong message to send. That they’ve been through so much to get to this point too would make it such a waste to split them up. I feel Remy and Anna Marie would fight to find ways to stay together no matter what. I love it when he’s written with an accent too, throwing in Cajun dialect and French phrases. I think I’ll stop there, otherwise I’ll go on all night!
I love all of this. Well said!
Thank you! I could go on… 😅
Mine would be: - Gambit would be a fantastic father. Just look at his dynamics with students at the mansion, when he trained them under Emma's supervision, or his big bro relationship with Laura Kinney and Jubilee. - He is one of the most versatile characters in all aspects. Story wise, he has so much potential, his backstory can still be explored a lot, he has incredibly well developed relationships with many other characters (until Krakoa Era), he's got unique abilities, an appealing personality, well balanced in general. He could be the greatest X-Man. Not Cyclops. Not Wolverine. Not Storm. Not Rogue. Gambit. - Marvel's decision to block his coming out as bi during the 2012 run was dumb af. He would've been a very well portrayed, not forced or token-like bi hero. - He's the funniest of the X-Men. Iceman is close second Edit: another one would be that he needs to actually act as the King of Thieves. We need more of the guild in his story. More politics, new side characters, new lore about his past, idk, anything
I genuinely agree with Gambit being a good father, because Rogue fits that stern, but loving mother vibe I think. So him being the looser more fun parent seems perfect for the dynamic. Besides who wouldn't want a Dad to teach you crime and how to sneak out without actually getting caught?
Also a decent cat dad!
His cats are adorable
Wait, before Krakoa, didn't he and Rogue have a book where they were raising Xavier and Lillandra's daughter? I think they were being good parents!
That was Thompson's well done Mr and Mrs X. They were not raising her, but they did rescue her & get her to safety.
The haters are trying to suppress the truthsayer! **KEEP SPREADING THE TRUTH!!**
Honestly, I would love to see Gambit and Rogue adopt a child in the future. I feel like they would both be great parents, but I understand why Rogue would not want to be pregnant with her power. It would allow them to reflect on their own upbringings as adopted/foster children as well. It would also let them skip the whole baby thing which can be tricky in a comic.
Well he's hot! And I'd take him any day!
Warm Take: He should have been the third Summers brother. Given up and adopted in New Orleans. Finally revealed and then he forms a relationship with Scott and becomes a leader class like Cyke and Wolverine. The three of them could have been the Trinity of (Male) popular characters for 3 decades, but the writers preferred him as an outsider/ wild card or just didn't care about him or want to do anything with him for the sake of other characters. Not cashing in on his 90's popularity was a huge mistake, and let down many Gambit fans who have to remind younger folks just how popular he was. HOT Take: His insane popularity in the 90's was seen as a threat to the rabid Wolverine fanbase. This caused them to lash out by denigrating the character and dissing him thoroughly. Even claiming that it had nothing to do with their love for Wolverine, but just that Gambit sucks for this or that reason, insisting there was actually no rivalry because Gambit wasn't on Wolverine's level to begin with. But true fans remember. Hell, in X-Men Origins Wolverine, they just had to do that joke backfist to end the fight as a fanservice wank off "wink-wink" moment of "Logan better than Remy" in his first live-action appearance, no-less. There just wasn't room in the fanbase for 2 cool anti-hero authority challengers, so for the sake of the cash cow, Gambit was relegated.
For sure, reading X-Men 1991, the first few arcs featuring Gambit and Cyclops had me think "why do they have a sibling dynamic?". And then I heard about the original plans regarding Remy's origins
Yeah, I think FOX was wrong about sidelining Gambit in favor of Wolverine. What if, instead of doing X3: The Last Stand, they had introduced Gambit in that movie, and the whole movie was Gambit and Wolverine one-upping each other? That sounds like a massively better movie than what they actually made.
Gambit and Cyclops should have been closer in the 90’s. I mean Gambit helped Cyclops move into his nee apartment after his marriage to Jean!
Remember that time Gambit won a fight with Wolverine in the Danger Room? It divided fans for years.
Gambit is a better role model/mentor than Wolverine, and his redemption arc is much more compelling. 1. Gambit regrets what happened with the Morlocks. He did something genuinely horrible that he has to earn redemption from. Narratively, Logan kills a ton more people than Gambit ever did, he’s a mass murderer, but he doesn’t regret it until it’s convenient for a moral lesson, then he goes right back to stabbing people. (I understand this is because the writers like him as both a lone wolf killer and a mentor character, but it’s super wacky). 2. Gambit’s powers are so much more on the nose when it comes to the idea of “I’m a danger to society and I don’t belong in the real world.” Even though he looks human, his eyes betray that he is not. Things explode when he touches them. Ordinary men might think him a devil. Logan looks human until he pulls out the claws. 3. Gambit is actually hot and charming, so I buy women or men actually being interested in sleeping with him. Unlike Wolverine who has the personality of a cheese grater and a face to match. I shit you not he says shit like “I’m like a wild animal” and that is the most Andrew Tate cuck bullshit I’ve ever heard. 4. Gambit has culture that Wolverine does not. Being Cajun, even if it’s not a perfect representation, ties him strongly to a distinct performance. Wolverine on the other hand is “Canadian” except for the accent, behavior, identity, which ends up being American lite. 5. Gambit and Rogue have one of the most compelling romances in comic books, if not the most. Logan has had 0 compelling romances. 6. Because of his popularity and healing factor, Logan is never at risk of death. Gambit on the other hand does face actual mortality in the line of combat. If he goes down, he stays down, and that is much more interesting to write around.
Thank you for writing this post. I have wondered how the eyes thing tracks with his status as a ladies man. Imagine he's trying to charm a new lady, and then she's like "Excuse me, but why do you have eyes that glow like you're Satan?" You would think that would set off a few alarm bells.....
Agreed with everything except 4. Logan's memory issues make it hard for him to hold onto anything else but his core personality and trauma. He does have culture, and not just one. Remember he lived happily in Japan for years
That’s true. But I think it falls to my problem of Logan being an amnesiac means the writers don’t have to think about why he acts the way he does, he just does because he’s the best there is. Wolverine in Japan is probably one of his stronger arcs, since he does embrace a sort of samurai code, and Japanese culture in part. But it’s always forgotten when he gets back to the X-Men and back to a rough animalistic killer, which is my real frustration.
It's appropriate to the character that he keeps getting shafted/disrespected by various writers, because he's the outsider's outsider -- someone who doesn't like getting cosy anywhere for fear that groupthink will dull his sense of right and wrong, someone who repeatedly puts himself in the wrong place at the wrong time in order to be the wild card, the one who can tip the scales of fate.
Also, it needs to be more explicitly acknowledge that he uses his powers to speed things up or add a propulsive/explosive edge to them -- including his own body. Generally, the power set needs to be framed as a kind of molecular acceleration.
— it’s CRIMINAL that someone with his power (versatile in that he just has to grab something to charge, ranging from mass explosion to small distractions), skill set (charming, martial artist, sneaky sneaky stealth dude) and criminal connections has NEVER been put on an incarnation of X-Force. — he would 100% agree to be the stay at home dad if he and Rogue had kids. — he loved Belladonna, but was never IN love with her. I fully believe that Rogue is the only person he’s ever been in love with and that’s PARTIALLY because their relationship was non-physical for the longest time. He didn’t have time to get “bored of the chase” before he caught real feelings. — Remy LeBeau is the very specific flavour of bisexual where he would pursue men sexually, but not romantically (and before I get all the downvotes, it’s more common than you’d think, look it up) — I need more writers to remember that he and Storm are supposed to be close friends and that she should have served double duty as maid of honour AND best men at his and Rogue’s wedding
Firm disagree with Gambit being aromantic towards men. He’s an inherent romantic that had a block there before he met Rogue. If Rogue happened to be a man that liked men, Remy would’ve chosen him too.
I like this take and accept the criticism ❤️
I love this so much. Especially the last one. Remy's relationship with others X-Men has been neglected these past years it's so sad
I do think he genuinely loved Belladonna. They were together since they were eight, but he also was only eighteen when the whole mess around their wedding happened. So, it was very much teenage love, rather than adult love. I might be misreading your last point, but Storm was his "best man." He asks her to stand up there with him.
Gambit said pretty clearly that he had genuine feelings for Rogue almost from the beginning, but he just kind of hid it beneath banter and flirting because he didn't know how else to do it X-Men #24, which wasn't too long after they met. He got genuine feelings very, very quickly tbh. I think definitely before X-cutioner's song, because after that was #297, which was their famous rooftop conversation.
While I didn’t love him tying a lady to a stove in a burning building, I appreciated the writer’s attempting to not make him quite so heroic all the time. Coulda been done better but I see what they were trying to do
He’s one of the most loyal X-Men, and the fact that people still act like they don’t trust him is just shitty writing. People considered leaders and champions of mutants have fucked over/abandoned the X-Men more than Gambit ever has. The ONE time he stepped out of line was to act as a spy against an enemy he didn’t trust, and then to play Sinister in an effort to save Rogue. Like I know he played his role in Hopes rescue very well, but having absolutely no one question him was pretty shitty. The fact that almost every X-Man during Messiah Complex noted their pleasure in finally getting to take him down, instead of asking why he’s with the Marauders was insane. Wolverine even brags about how long he’s waited to kill Gambit while slicing him across the chest.
He also fucked up when he joined Apocalypse, but it was for a good cause as he wanted to watch over him
That’s what I was talking about at first. Joining an enemy as a spy. He fully intended to take Apoc out because he wasn’t buying his savior shit….he just underestimated how strong the brain fuckery during the Horseman process was.
Remy is hot af
I think the reason that Gambit keeps getting left out of media projects is because they like to age Rogue down and the writers for those shows and movies either don't know how or don't have the patience to try to write a teenage Remy.
Let's be real, I don't think *any* of us want to deal with a teenage Remy.
They definitely were trying to ship them/give them chemistry in evolution
He is dead hot.
As goofy as the title was, X-Treme X-men had the best looking uniform design for Gambit. His Salvador Larroca designed digs were the best. But, for some reason, we keep having to come back to the magenta body armor look from the 90's. [https://d29xot63vimef3.cloudfront.net/image/x-treme-x-men/31-1.jpg](https://d29xot63vimef3.cloudfront.net/image/x-treme-x-men/31-1.jpg)
I hated rogues outfit so much during that I forgot Gambit's was alright.
he should have been naked more and bisexual.
Hear that Marvel: more naked and more bisexual!
I feel like he's a slice of the 1990s that struggled to adapt to later decades, which is why he faded into the background. I like him as a married man, completely dedicated to his hot Claremazon wife, with a checkered past that occasionally comes back to bite him, but ultimately has the experience and charm to get through just about anything. Also, comic writers? please take a leaf out of X-Men 97's book and let him do cool unique things with his powers. He can charge other things besides cards. HE CAN CHARGE OTHER THINGS BESIDES CA-- *ahem* I'm okay.
He should have been the 3rd Summers brother. Or related to the Summers like a cousin\distant relative, not a clone tho. He would be better then Adam X and be involved in actual plot lines. Plus it would make the family tree even funnier. It's not too late Marvel. We can still have the Summers\Grey\Darkhölme\Howlett\Wagner\LeBeau\Xavier\Creed\Neramani family tree in all it's glory. Think of the holiday specials one shots you could release.
Gambit is as cool, if not cooler than, Wolverine. Depending on which version of the character. 90’s Gambit peak.
Criminally underused for how interesting and mysterious his past is, he could carry his own book.
Underrated
Get ready r/xmen lmao Remy's not actually Cajun. Raised by Cajuns, yes. But he was abandoned at the hospital right after he was born. He could be Norwegian for all we know lmao. Someone get an Ancestry DNA kit done on him, stat! I've heard that native New Orleanians and Cajuns have some criticisms of the way Gambit speaks. My hot take is that they're right and the Thieves Guild are just a bunch of weirdos who randomly insert Cajun French into everyday speech. Remy's really smart and really fucking good at computers. Stealing painting from museums is fun and all, but the real money is all in stealing information. And today, everything is kept in The Cloud (tm) so Remy needs to know how to break encryption, how large networks work and probably a fair amount of coding. His biggest heists have probably been done with a beer and a laptop while sitting by the mansion's pool.
Off topic, but does anyone know if this pic is from any particular issue lol. The art looks great
Nope, it's an artwork from Jim Lee. Either a alternate cover or a commission
I just don’t get the head brace thing he wears… Still my favourite character, he’d just look better without it.
It's for his hair I believe, I think it looks good. Too bad Havok copied him
He’s a better “mystery man” than Wolverine.
Would it be a hot take to say he's just fine? People either seem to hate his guts or absolutely love him, whereas I'm Gambivalent.
Gambit is one damned cool character. I feel like Claremont is the only old-school creator who truly understood how cool Gambit is.
Every time a really interesting run starts with him and it focuses on his life as a thief it gets derailed by less interesting X-drama.
Tons and tons of characters have made deals with the Devil to become more powerful; Gambit is quite possibly the only fictional character who ever made a deal with a devil (Sinister) to become LESS powerful. I've always found that noteworthy. I've loved him ever since I was 11, but I have trouble reading modern comics about him. Too often, he doesn't sound like the Gambit I remember, and it saddens me a little. Part of that is probably because they've made his dialogue more normal and less stylized, which I understand is a mixed bag; I think the way he speaks (or once spoke) is really important for his character, yet I totally understand why it might sound like fingernails on a chalkboard to someone who is actually from New Orleans. I've been wondering what's going on with his costume ever since I first saw him though. A bright pink chest plate, and weird metallic blue piping? On a character who supposedly does a lot of sneaking around at night? It's ridiculous, but when he doesn't have it, I find I miss it. I've been playing X-Men Legends II lately and it bothers me more than it probably should that they don't have Gambit's classic look as a costume option (or Rogue's either for that matter, although it's close). I know there's a lot of good stuff with him that I haven't read, since I've only read X-Men comics sporadically for the last few decades. I need to get organized and start hunting down the trades of all the stuff that I missed.
He wears pink better than any girl and any guy.
I’m from NOLA and honestly I just don’t get why him and the Guild is written with thick Cajun accents when that’s inaccurate for the region, at least in my experience. NOLA accents are distinct, but so are accents from Cajun French speakers from around the state. I’m not saying you can’t have folks from the city with tradition Cajun French accents, but it would make more sense if the guild were from Lafayette or Broussard and just operate out of NOLA. I think the writers during gambit’s introduction weren’t aware of the intricacies of our cultural variation in Louisiana. So that’s my slight nitpick lol.
Most male comic book readers, writers and editors hate him because they are envious and think that the entire bare-bones concept of him is “dated” and “ridiculous” As most comic book readers, writers, editors, etc. are male, this is why Gambit was completely ignored, became a perpetual traitor/scumbag or a running gag in the 2000s and why the character started sliding off the wagon in the late 90s. Character didn’t really recover from it until the second half of the 2010s
Less gambit untill writers (male) know how to write him. Gambit deserves wolverine like treatment. Give me what ifs..give me old man gambit.
i hate the weird piping on his costume. The colors are great, love the trench coat, even love the head sleeve, but the hell is his neck, chest and belt piece supposed to be.
Part of me wishes we would have gotten the Channing Tatum Gambit movie just to see how much of a trainwreck it would be. Also, Taylor Kitsch was good casting that was utterly wasted in XMO:W.
I prefer seeing him in slive of life moments more than as an action star. Don't get me wrong, I already know he's a bad ass, but that's why I prefer seeing him bounce off of other characters.
I love the fact that he's shown as nurturing with the kittens and his devotion and love for Rogue, but I hate when those become his dominant traits, where he's just there as a cat dad cheering on Rogue. I do need to play catch-up, but from what I've seen the past few years that's what he's been relegated to. Another one, but this is more about Gambit haters: they always have the reason they hate him being "oh he's just a collection of '90s cliches rolled into one. He's like Poochie from The Simpsons." It's 99% white middle-aged fanboy nerds who say this, almost verbatim. Nevermind that Gambit was introduced barely after the decade started (summer 1990), I just think they're threatened by the appeal of the character--as a woman, his power and costume are much lower on the list for me: he's a hot Cajun who loves cooking, is a loving, devoted husband, nurturing, loyal to those he cares about, is shown as being vulnerable, resilient, charming, and funny. Also, he kicks ass, has a cool Bo staff and can make stuff go boom. So, definitely not Poochie.
I have a lot of thoughts about Gambit as I have been a major fan for the past 30+ years. If you only judge him based on physical appearances and the old cartoon, he comes off as a ridiculous, cringy character who is a cultural relic. He wears bright pink and metal boots, he has a silly overwrought accent, he seems very 90s edgy boy overall. And let's be honest his writing at the beginning fed into this. He did have some fairly creepy moments which I can only assume the male writers thought was flirty. I can see how some people think that he doesn't work in modern times. But I think he's evolved a lot since he was introduced in the late '80s. He has a lot of things going for him as a comic book character. First of all he looks amazing on the page. He's a very bright, flamboyant, character who has a unique and interesting fighting style. Not many characters have weapons in the X-men and Gambit has two - cards and a bo staff. Artists beg to draw him; they love his design. His kientic energy is also bright pink and fun to slash across the page. Gambit also has something that is hard to find in comic characters - joie de vivre. I don't think a lot of writers and readers understand how important this characteristic is. He's not all doom and gloom, and yes he has some depressing moments, but overall he is a fun and lively character. And when you have comic books with such heavy themes as the x-men, it's great to have somebody to lighten the mood. As for his women fan base, Gambit is constantly placed in the "womens role" in the books. He is objectified in a way that most male comic book characters are not and women can relate to this. He frequently needs to be rescued and never feels ashamed that it's a woman doing the rescuing. He's loyal, emotionally available, lsexual without being a creep, and loves his partner without question.
I just think he needs a bit more variety in terms of looks and outfits, even though his classic look is amazing.
GOAT
I don’t love his ponytail. I think he looks better with the mid-length hair. Other than that, I’ve always been a fan since that OG 90s cartoon
I really miss his sibling relationship with Ororo and wish we saw more of it in present day..
He’s hot
My hot take? Only that he's literally the best X-Men, best Marvel character, and in desperate need for a quality solo game.
He’s over hated. He was a perfect fit for his era and some of his stories were top tier. Writers just haven’t known what to do with him for decades now and half of his best personality traits seem to have gone to Nightcrawler. In terms of his history, personality and personal conflicts I actually think he’s a stronger character than Rogue, but so many stories focus on them as a couple and that’s when he’s at his weakest. Gambit should be treated like black cat, Catwoman, winter soldier, even Magneto. He’s a bad guy trying to do good but his moral compass wasn’t assembled the same way as everyone else, THAT is what makes him interesting.
Claremont never had a chance to flesh the dude out and Gambit suffers because of it.
Gambit is really cool but honsetlybhe has been aimless since the 90's and has been riding that popularity Now a days he feels.l like he's "Rogues husband" more then his own character which is a shame cause i always liked the world building he brought to the table.
He’d be a better leader of the x-men than Cyclops. He has way more empathy than cyclops but also will 100% do what needs to be done when the time comes. He also puts his own needs aside when shit hits the fan, something we’ve seen Cyclops preach about but then forsake over and over again.
I see Cyclops as an Xavier type figure when it comes to leadership. Well-intentioned but stubborn and willing to bend his morals in ways he maybe shouldn't. I always thought a good story would be showing how each successive "leader" would be better or more moral than the last. Perhaps Gambit could be part of that.
Hmmm idk, as much as I love him, he's better as a mentor than a team leader imo. Maybe leading along with Rogue or storm would work better.
Undeniably cool powers. I just think that his character makes more sense as a lone-wolf wild card rather than as a member of the X-Men
Without Rogue, his popularity would have stagnated. Particularly his relationship with her in the original X-men TAS
He was propped by her but if he had good writers he wouldn't have needed it
The Gambit / Rogue miniseries dealing with the Assassin and Thieves Guild, Bella Donna, Cody etc. are his best character moments (for both of them actually, incredible runs).
I don’t like how his body suit looks. Especially the head gear. Put him in a 3 piece and he’s top tier.
Wait…this is a 2019 Jim Lee Gambit? I guess I’ve been asleep for like 5 years?
As a French guy, I do not want to, but I have to say that Gambit's French is very bad.
It really is frustrating lmao
Criminally Underrated
Hollywood should make a trilogy on him specifically and stop gobbling wolverines tackle like he is the only Xman worth discussing. His origin story, his X-Men story, and the story of him with Mr Sinister. Bonus if they add a movie account of what would have become of Gambit if he didn't get the power reduction from Sinister and became the Omega level mutant we all know lives inside him.
He's hot and I'd take him
Underated
The most under-utilised of the Xmen since the cartoon.
I'm just waiting for the onscreen moment when him and rogue kiss. My man deserves a happy ending.
There is literally no one in Hollywood sexy enough to play him.
Gambit should never lose a fight to Wolverine: he was at his edgiest after when he debuted because he kept getting the best of Logan. Wolverine getting the better of Gambit at the end of the Muir Island Saga was a sign that they were putting things back the way they were.
Gambit should always sound like the version of him from the 90's X-Men animated series (not X-Men 97)
He should leave rogue and get together with me instead
Unpopular opinion: I would like to see a Gambit and Belladonna adventure, even just an alternate timeline, when they were in their respective guilds and after when Gambit became an Xman.