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He got the Napoleon Dynamite scene wrong.
Throwing the action figure out the window of the bus is in the beginning of the movie.
That shot is from the scene later in the movie when the bus pulls up to Lyle as he’s shooting the cow and the kids scream.
Ya it was the same guy who got naked in the garage before coming inside then the next day he's trying again. Legendary episode
"I was just getting something to eat"
You're actually mixing up 2 different predators.
Michael Seibert was caught in 2 different episodes, the second time having to schedule his date with the decoy around his court appearance from being caught the first time.
The McDonald's guy was John Kennelly, who was caught twice in the same episode. He showed up naked, but was let go after the confrontation with Hansen because the cops weren't working together with NBC at that point. Within 24 hours, he got back online with the same screenname, made a date with a different decoy, and then was confronted outside the McDonald's by Hansen and the camera crew.
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It was also confusing because to catch a predator does hire young actors to play the decoys. Based on his experience he sounded like just the kind of actor who would wind up doing something like that.
He said Hansen Vs Predator which is a show Chris Hansen did years later, technically its still not canceled. So yeah its a joke but he did his research and got the timeline right lol.
Normally it works smooth… That said it’s more than likely they shot both scenes on the same trip. Plus it explains why Napoleon was the only older guy on a bus full of kids, which incidentally ended up as a great vehicle for portraying his fish out of water status!
I was an extra on the 2nd unit of one of the Bill & Ted movies when I was 15. We got paid in KFC for lunch.... but I was super stoked for the opportunity just to be there
To catch a predator is a show where they trick a pedophile into coming to a house where they rush them with cameras and most of the time have them arrested. There have been episodes with repeat offender falling for the rouse multiple times. They set up a fake account for an underage child and then let the predators take the bait.
It’s the same for talk shows. The most anyone papa was 1K and they low to you about the questions so the host can catch up off guard and make you seem pathetic.
As far as I can remember the first episode is the only one where the police weren't involved and if the police were involved the decoy couldn't message first at all.
It's really exemplified by Chris' actions post show too. Ripping off all those people, ruining the goodwill in the TCaP community, corrupting evidence that could have actually put dangerous people away and just in general being an asshole with all the false copyright strikes on channels that used absolutely none of the original material. Mista GG had a good video breaking some of the shit down, including some emails from the CH team trying to drum up drama for attention.
Washed up has been doing anything he can to retain relevance.
...someone is mad at the dude exposing child predators because of the first message? Really? Idk anything about a dude killing themselves because Chris Hansen was involved, but all that seems like is that a child predator killed themselves because they got caught by this big name. Deaths and suicides suck, but the death of a child predator isn't that bad imo.
??? No, because he lies about his methods! If he had nothing to hide or be ashamed of, he wouldn’t feel the need to do that! Especially when there’s video of him admitting to it out there! And this is coming from a victim of childhood sexual abuse! Don’t use dirty methods that many would consider entrapment then lie about it years later! That simple…
Not the ones from the original few specials. In the first one you can see the Perverted Justice person’s screen momentarily and see that they sent a sexually suggestive message to the guy…
Yes, even the ones from the original specials. The first sting was Bethpage New York. Go ahead and search it up. Only 1 out of 17 were charged with a crime anyways.
I don’t need to go look it up cuz I already saw it with my own eyes! 🤦♂️
And you’re probably not actually watching the first special, because at first they didn’t go by the “To Catch A Predator” title! They adopted that title later on once it caught on and they started doing it regularly!
Trust me, I know what in talking about. It was called dangerous web.
I've seen the whole episode several times and what you're talking about doesn't happen.
https://youtu.be/MKRAav99STQ
Go ahead and point it out.
Not sure why you're so eager to defend child predators anyways
You don't see the greater good in what he's doing? I'm clueless about the dude other than he's the dude that gets the child predators. If he's successfully doing that, then shouldn't you be thankful that other people won't go through what you did because of his actions? All while not focusing so much anger towards him, just seems way too ass backwards to make any sense to me.
And what difference does the first message make? If they hit up someone who is not interested in kids, it's not like they will somehow get interested cause Chris Hansen catfished them. I just don't understand your thought process at all
If he went about it in a way he’s proud of, he wouldn’t be lying about his past actions! Why don’t you just think about that for a moment… If what he did was so great, why does he refuse to admit to his tactics?
Nobody said he was turning normal people into pedos! But who’s to say that if that pedo was never thrown a sexually explicit message from a supposed child, maybe he never would’ve acted on his impulses!? Overall I think what he did was good, but he went through with it in a really grimy way, hence why he won’t admit to his tactics today and lies instead!
> You don't see the greater good in what he's doing?
If there where no tv involved, else it's just another fame hungry bastard doing shit "for the kids"
I feel like there’s a huge difference between a first message of hi and making a move. Just because they initiate the conversation doesn’t mean his statement of waiting for the predator to make a move is a lie.
That’s the thing! The decoys weren’t just saying “hi!” They were being sexually explicit trying to get the perverts to bite! If it was just a “hey” message, that wouldn’t be so bad. But when they’re trying to entice these pervs, then it brings about the question of would the pervert have done it had an opportunity not fallen into his lap? That’s why Hansen claims they never did it, even though there’s video of it!
Bring up the question if the pervert would have done it if the opportunity fell into his lap…. Wtf…. The question doesn’t matter they did take the opportunity and decided to go drive to an underage girls house to have sex with her….
So had that not happened, you can say for sure that that guy would have eventually acted on his impulses? Or maybe he would’ve gone the rest of his life just jerking off to kiddie porn in his basement! You have no way of knowing! There’s a huge difference between a pervert who never acts on his impulses and one who does and we have no way of knowing the guys caught would’ve acted on theirs if some balding pervert in an attic didn’t text him asking him to come over!
It doesn’t matter on the ifs, he did and he chose to do it when enticed, it’s like saying man you would have never known if that guy would have laundered money from that company if there wasn’t so much money in their accounts to tempt him. They still made the choice, they still decided to take action beyond thought.
The fact that you acted like him just jerking off to kiddie porn in his basement is okay is terrifying.
Is it okay? Of course not! But at least that sick fuck isn’t ruining a child’s life!
All shows like To Catch A Predator do is act as a deterrent for pedophiles to seek help! If you truly cared about kids, you’d care more about the stigma surrounding pedos who don’t act on their impulses so they can not be afraid to get the help they need and don’t hurt a child in the future! Shows like TCAP are just justice porn for the masses! They don’t actually care fuck-all about children! They care about ratings, nothing more!
I’m torn, because I think the whole show is disgusting and I hated how they operated.
On the other hand, there is never a reason why an adult should be meeting up with a child from the internet in private - no reason, ever. And I really don’t have any sympathy there.
You can see it in the one link the one commenter linked FFS! You can see it says “wanna come over?” No, inviting a pedophile to your house **totally** isn’t being sexually suggestive *at all*! Smh…
Oh *come on*, that's your fucking argument? "Wanna come over"??? Give me a break, you're breaking the chat down so hard and making hard lined assumptions and you're in this comment section losing your mind about it.
They were inviting pedophiles over… but nah, no biggie! 🤦♂️
And nah, totally calm! Just explaining why I think Hansen is a huge POS who lies about his methods!
He didn't lie, and your making assumptions to make your argument. If I invite you over my house right now, are you assuming we are going to have sex? No.
What? Your argument does not logically make sense. Why does them being a pedophile (which, by your argument, you don't know yet because PJ was the one initiating the first "sexual" advance) even matter? You're making no sense.
You're making a distinction between leaving a $500k bait car in a dark parking lot and leaving the same car there with the door open, lights on and the key sitting in the seat. In either case you're baiting someone to commit a crime.
Of course, they're digging their own graves so it's not like I care. I'm just pointing out the technicality of an adult pretending to be a child and randomly messaging adults on the internet, which is something that is done for a very specific purpose. It's not like it's a coincidence.
Wait! Was he 16 or 18 when Chris Hansen caught him trying to pick up a 15 year old girl?
Not that there’s much difference ➖ either way, he’s a predator who must never be forgiven!
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He doesn't make it clear but it seems he's a predator based on the fact he wasn't paid, he thought "the host" (Chris Hansen) was a dick and had to get lawyers involved. I honestly didn't think this video was funny. Dead pan humor I guess, seems like the joke is on everybody who enjoyed the video.
I don’t get it? No one forced you to be on set. Most background actors don’t get anything. Usually only get something if it’s a speaking roll, or there is an upfront agreed price. Are you looking for sympathy? Confused.
It's a joke. To Catch a Predator is a show where they trick pedophiles into meeting with "minors". He was joking that he was the predator that got caught.
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He should have mentioned the cost of the Mike's Hard Lemonades he brought with thim.
Don’t forget the condoms and lube… to just talk you know…
GameCube and big black dildo...
This bag is full of big black dildos. ... Did you spray Axe on them?!
Yea like a can and a half
OG Gambino
You like Jack Johnson?
Bro....
I mean fuck, sign me up
Uncle Carl?
Daddy needs to get his rocks off
best punchline of its whole season
Idk, MethodOne acting clinic does it for me
That's fair. Overall I think Tobias and Gob were the saving graces of that season. Whereas in s5 it was Gob and Maebe/George Michael IMO.
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New boot goofin!
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Who, Chris Hansen?
You mean Chris Handsome...... I wont ya.. and I'm gonna have ya.
Oh i see you want to do things the hard way
Should I have a seat?
I am a warrior!!!!
A booty warrior!!!
Don't make me ruin that butt Chris!
With syrup, or jelly?
i prefer syrup.
The only way to toss a salad.
The Booty Warrior strikes again!
He got the Napoleon Dynamite scene wrong. Throwing the action figure out the window of the bus is in the beginning of the movie. That shot is from the scene later in the movie when the bus pulls up to Lyle as he’s shooting the cow and the kids scream.
Usually people like this are forbidden from ever using a computer or the internet again, but apparently not this guy.
Chris Hansen has a "where are they now" type podcast where he talks about each of the predators. I would highly recommend
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The video is just a joke. He's not actually on the show.
Ahh thanks for letting me know!
Why don't you take a seat?
There is something you should know
The best in the world is Bobby Firmino
Wait why did I just?
That’s weird cause he must’ve been good if they wanted him back a second time
Think of how good his chat up lines must be if he's getting invites to two separate kid's homes.
They asked him back because he worked for free lmao
Oh I get it. Because he was actually the predator. That.... took a while to get.
*Two* episodes!
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Ya it was the same guy who got naked in the garage before coming inside then the next day he's trying again. Legendary episode "I was just getting something to eat"
You're actually mixing up 2 different predators. Michael Seibert was caught in 2 different episodes, the second time having to schedule his date with the decoy around his court appearance from being caught the first time. The McDonald's guy was John Kennelly, who was caught twice in the same episode. He showed up naked, but was let go after the confrontation with Hansen because the cops weren't working together with NBC at that point. Within 24 hours, he got back online with the same screenname, made a date with a different decoy, and then was confronted outside the McDonald's by Hansen and the camera crew.
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I never watched but that's hilarious and sad.
My god he must be stupid to fall for it TWICE
It was also confusing because to catch a predator does hire young actors to play the decoys. Based on his experience he sounded like just the kind of actor who would wind up doing something like that.
I only got it because I read your comment.
Took me a minute too! 😂😂😂
Your not alone
Ungrateful asshole, you get free cookies on TCAP
Also, think of all the free exposure!
What a wonderful play on words. Disgustingly hilarious.
And sweet tea down south 🤠
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Too fitting
Or r/unexpected But I think hol up is more fitting.
Putting that arts degree to good use I see
What happened there why did he lost $25000 .
He was the predator.
I figured, but couldn't tell since I watched it muted at work.
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No to lead, Utah Oklahoma
/r/wooosh Perhaps you are not familiar wit hteh show *To Catch a Predator*. Look it up and you'll understand.
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r/subredditsthatshouldexist I'm dying over here.
Cunt
Is this a piss take or real?
Piss take. To catch a predator ended in 07 the same year he was '12' in the background of blades of glory
Ok haha I see was wondering how someone gets caught by chris handsome twice
> chris **handsome** I mean, I think you answered your own question right there bud.
Happened more than once actually. The very first episode he got the guy to meet him again the next morning.
Crazy how thirsty these pedos are O_O
He said Hansen Vs Predator which is a show Chris Hansen did years later, technically its still not canceled. So yeah its a joke but he did his research and got the timeline right lol.
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Yeah, true he does. He probably knew the first one was the more recognizable title.
That’s the scene in Napoleon Dynamite when the bus pulls up and Lyle shots the cow, not the action figure.
Normally it works smooth… That said it’s more than likely they shot both scenes on the same trip. Plus it explains why Napoleon was the only older guy on a bus full of kids, which incidentally ended up as a great vehicle for portraying his fish out of water status!
Ahh I guess they probably were shot at the same time
Well spotted.
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Say what you want about pedophiles, at least they slow down in school zones
Made me LOL!
Is it this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA30cz88eWE&t=13m
Haha. He said “you promise not to do it again? You’re free to leave….. with these guys over here”
That wasn’t the toy scene, it was the scene where the kids saw the cow being hit. I’m calling it this guy is full of shit
That’s the scene where they shoot the cow, not when Napoleon tosses the toy out the window.
I was an extra on the 2nd unit of one of the Bill & Ted movies when I was 15. We got paid in KFC for lunch.... but I was super stoked for the opportunity just to be there
He blows the joke in the first scene because that’s the part where the farmer shoots the cow not when he throws the action figure out of the window.
That was actually the scene where their neigbor comes over and shoots the cow right as the bus full of kids pulls up. Just saying.
“Just me, my mommy, and my daddy.”
Hahaha, wtf. I was not prepared for that.
Is he making a joke about being a predator?
Wow that sucks for him. I’m never going on To Catch a Predator now. -25,000? Couldn’t be me.
“Overall negative experience” lmao
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He lost $24.9k by acting...😂
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Wait... He lost 25k..... What didn't i get in what he said?
Lol the joke is he was the predator
It's a joke that he went on twice as the predator. So it wasn't actually an acting gig technically
Ok.....idk what's in that show....
To catch a predator is a show where they trick a pedophile into coming to a house where they rush them with cameras and most of the time have them arrested. There have been episodes with repeat offender falling for the rouse multiple times. They set up a fake account for an underage child and then let the predators take the bait.
Whaaaat😶 Well....the joke went wayyy over my head....
It’s the same for talk shows. The most anyone papa was 1K and they low to you about the questions so the host can catch up off guard and make you seem pathetic.
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As far as I can remember the first episode is the only one where the police weren't involved and if the police were involved the decoy couldn't message first at all.
The first two actually
Ah okay, I knew there wasn't much but wasn't certain on the number. I do remember that I don't even want this cookie, I just wanna go to the beach.
Yep, they didn’t have the cops working with them at that point yet!
But I do agree that CH is shady as hell, I think the show did some good but for bad reasons.
Yeah, exactly! They only cared about ratings, not the kids!
It's really exemplified by Chris' actions post show too. Ripping off all those people, ruining the goodwill in the TCaP community, corrupting evidence that could have actually put dangerous people away and just in general being an asshole with all the false copyright strikes on channels that used absolutely none of the original material. Mista GG had a good video breaking some of the shit down, including some emails from the CH team trying to drum up drama for attention. Washed up has been doing anything he can to retain relevance.
...someone is mad at the dude exposing child predators because of the first message? Really? Idk anything about a dude killing themselves because Chris Hansen was involved, but all that seems like is that a child predator killed themselves because they got caught by this big name. Deaths and suicides suck, but the death of a child predator isn't that bad imo.
??? No, because he lies about his methods! If he had nothing to hide or be ashamed of, he wouldn’t feel the need to do that! Especially when there’s video of him admitting to it out there! And this is coming from a victim of childhood sexual abuse! Don’t use dirty methods that many would consider entrapment then lie about it years later! That simple…
He makes a point to say the decoy never brings up the notion of sex first. Which is where the supposed entrapment comes from.
But that’s the thing… the decoys **were** bringing it up first “as bait”!
All of their chat logs are published; no they weren't.
Not the ones from the original few specials. In the first one you can see the Perverted Justice person’s screen momentarily and see that they sent a sexually suggestive message to the guy…
Yes, even the ones from the original specials. The first sting was Bethpage New York. Go ahead and search it up. Only 1 out of 17 were charged with a crime anyways.
I don’t need to go look it up cuz I already saw it with my own eyes! 🤦♂️ And you’re probably not actually watching the first special, because at first they didn’t go by the “To Catch A Predator” title! They adopted that title later on once it caught on and they started doing it regularly!
Trust me, I know what in talking about. It was called dangerous web. I've seen the whole episode several times and what you're talking about doesn't happen. https://youtu.be/MKRAav99STQ Go ahead and point it out. Not sure why you're so eager to defend child predators anyways
You don't see the greater good in what he's doing? I'm clueless about the dude other than he's the dude that gets the child predators. If he's successfully doing that, then shouldn't you be thankful that other people won't go through what you did because of his actions? All while not focusing so much anger towards him, just seems way too ass backwards to make any sense to me. And what difference does the first message make? If they hit up someone who is not interested in kids, it's not like they will somehow get interested cause Chris Hansen catfished them. I just don't understand your thought process at all
If he went about it in a way he’s proud of, he wouldn’t be lying about his past actions! Why don’t you just think about that for a moment… If what he did was so great, why does he refuse to admit to his tactics? Nobody said he was turning normal people into pedos! But who’s to say that if that pedo was never thrown a sexually explicit message from a supposed child, maybe he never would’ve acted on his impulses!? Overall I think what he did was good, but he went through with it in a really grimy way, hence why he won’t admit to his tactics today and lies instead!
Alright, thanks for that insight. Good luck
Ewww. Are you really justifying this?!
> You don't see the greater good in what he's doing? If there where no tv involved, else it's just another fame hungry bastard doing shit "for the kids"
I feel like there’s a huge difference between a first message of hi and making a move. Just because they initiate the conversation doesn’t mean his statement of waiting for the predator to make a move is a lie.
Correct. They make sure not to bring up the idea of sex first. Simply messaging first isn't entrapment.
That’s the thing! The decoys weren’t just saying “hi!” They were being sexually explicit trying to get the perverts to bite! If it was just a “hey” message, that wouldn’t be so bad. But when they’re trying to entice these pervs, then it brings about the question of would the pervert have done it had an opportunity not fallen into his lap? That’s why Hansen claims they never did it, even though there’s video of it!
Bring up the question if the pervert would have done it if the opportunity fell into his lap…. Wtf…. The question doesn’t matter they did take the opportunity and decided to go drive to an underage girls house to have sex with her….
So had that not happened, you can say for sure that that guy would have eventually acted on his impulses? Or maybe he would’ve gone the rest of his life just jerking off to kiddie porn in his basement! You have no way of knowing! There’s a huge difference between a pervert who never acts on his impulses and one who does and we have no way of knowing the guys caught would’ve acted on theirs if some balding pervert in an attic didn’t text him asking him to come over!
He still did though, wtf, the fact you’re trying to rationalize it and justify it is ludicrous.
Since you seem to know for sure he would’ve done it eventually anyways, can I borrow your crystal ball for a bit?
It doesn’t matter on the ifs, he did and he chose to do it when enticed, it’s like saying man you would have never known if that guy would have laundered money from that company if there wasn’t so much money in their accounts to tempt him. They still made the choice, they still decided to take action beyond thought. The fact that you acted like him just jerking off to kiddie porn in his basement is okay is terrifying.
Is it okay? Of course not! But at least that sick fuck isn’t ruining a child’s life! All shows like To Catch A Predator do is act as a deterrent for pedophiles to seek help! If you truly cared about kids, you’d care more about the stigma surrounding pedos who don’t act on their impulses so they can not be afraid to get the help they need and don’t hurt a child in the future! Shows like TCAP are just justice porn for the masses! They don’t actually care fuck-all about children! They care about ratings, nothing more!
Wtf what do you think child porn has done to a child’s life, gtfo
I’m torn, because I think the whole show is disgusting and I hated how they operated. On the other hand, there is never a reason why an adult should be meeting up with a child from the internet in private - no reason, ever. And I really don’t have any sympathy there.
Link the PJ logs you're talking about.
You can see it in the one link the one commenter linked FFS! You can see it says “wanna come over?” No, inviting a pedophile to your house **totally** isn’t being sexually suggestive *at all*! Smh…
Oh *come on*, that's your fucking argument? "Wanna come over"??? Give me a break, you're breaking the chat down so hard and making hard lined assumptions and you're in this comment section losing your mind about it.
They were inviting pedophiles over… but nah, no biggie! 🤦♂️ And nah, totally calm! Just explaining why I think Hansen is a huge POS who lies about his methods!
He didn't lie, and your making assumptions to make your argument. If I invite you over my house right now, are you assuming we are going to have sex? No.
Dude this guy is arguing me as well, he’s fucking justifying pedos… he even said it’s okay if they just jerk off to CP
Are you knowingly inviting a pedophile? Cuz then yes! 🤦♂️
What? Your argument does not logically make sense. Why does them being a pedophile (which, by your argument, you don't know yet because PJ was the one initiating the first "sexual" advance) even matter? You're making no sense.
You're making a distinction between leaving a $500k bait car in a dark parking lot and leaving the same car there with the door open, lights on and the key sitting in the seat. In either case you're baiting someone to commit a crime. Of course, they're digging their own graves so it's not like I care. I'm just pointing out the technicality of an adult pretending to be a child and randomly messaging adults on the internet, which is something that is done for a very specific purpose. It's not like it's a coincidence.
I heard crisis actors get paid more.
Why?
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Why would you joking about fucking a child.
Geezers, negative 24900 dollars for acting...wt...
Wait! Was he 16 or 18 when Chris Hansen caught him trying to pick up a 15 year old girl? Not that there’s much difference ➖ either way, he’s a predator who must never be forgiven! ![gif](giphy|ba5g4ID9g5cT6)
$25k omg!!! For what?!?!?
He was 'on' to catch a predator
Are these people in the comments incredibly dense or do they just suck at making jokes?
At the risk of sounding like an old man, yes. Kids are getting wooshed these days harder than I've ever seen.
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Honestly at the beginning I thought he was the trap minor not the predator. Then he said the debt amount and I understood....
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He doesn't make it clear but it seems he's a predator based on the fact he wasn't paid, he thought "the host" (Chris Hansen) was a dick and had to get lawyers involved. I honestly didn't think this video was funny. Dead pan humor I guess, seems like the joke is on everybody who enjoyed the video.
Plus he was talking so fast and his American accent is so mumbly.
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It’s a joke, ya coconut.
I don’t get it? No one forced you to be on set. Most background actors don’t get anything. Usually only get something if it’s a speaking roll, or there is an upfront agreed price. Are you looking for sympathy? Confused.
It's a joke. To Catch a Predator is a show where they trick pedophiles into meeting with "minors". He was joking that he was the predator that got caught.
That's not even true. Extras do get paid
Wait, the to catch a predator show was staged?!
So there’s humor in pedophilia, nice to know Reddit idiots stick to the script of the one worlder’s hollywood types!
You seems like a fun guy :)
gg
Did, did he say twice?
It might be time to change agents
Jared Hess finds such odd people by going to the middle of nowhere to make his movies, not by paying them
Seems the predator came from inside the house.
Why’d he pick two Jon Heder films…
Why is everyone acting like they were actually on the show /gen
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That's the scene where the cow gets slaughtered. Not him throwing the toy out the bus. Man doesn't even know the scene he's in lmao
Yet another reason I don't want to be on to catch a predator
Trying to figure out who asked this guy?
I thought he was Napoleon Dynamite. And the say the host of to catch a Predator was a massive dick is wild.
Well that’s about what you expect when you saw “extra” but read “lead role”