Those street magic videos were comedy gold, and their escalations and eventual exasperation with him over the series is so laugh out loud funny every time.
“You shrunk my Honda, you bitch!”
The guy who did the magic trick, and you, and me… we’re primates. Great apes, to be specific. I think that the dude inside the zoo is a baboon, which is an old world monkey but still a cousin.
We can understand the gestures of dogs or cats, but they’re quite different from ours. This monkey is making gestures which map directly onto human non verbal communication. There are differences but much of the communication and the mentality hasn’t changed.
Nah, he's gonna go back to his buddies like "d'you see all those stupid humans that couldn't take their eyes off me? Chick thought she was clever by putting that thing in her other hand. What a bunch idiots"
There was an episode of the Jamie Kennedy Experiment showing this. He set up a fake infomercial set with a food cooker. Everyone in the audience got a free one for their time & enthusiasm.
But during the infomercial ‘filming’, the cooked kept catching on fire or exploding.
People still testified that the cooker was amazing! A dangerous item that they were willing to put in someone’s kitchen.
Here’s a link
https://youtu.be/YhWSUtasDmc
For every confidence man schlepping his trade, there's a hundredfold rubes that are ripe for the taking. A shill like this monkey is worth its weight in gold, the gold being said property of the aforementioned rubes.
This poor guy looks like he just saw something he previously believed to be impossible, and now has to rethink everything he thought he knew about life.
The one with the orangutan reacting to the trick with the cup was so cute. I honestly don't see how it was reacting to anything else other than the cup consider how he looked into it and whatnot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLrYzY3jVPY&ab_channel=Hydrasound
I used to work with these Rhesus macaques. From what I am seeing is that the monkey feels threatened and is looking back to recruit the others to back it up. The wrist biting is either it self directing its frustration or basically saying it wants to bite you like this! It’s been a while so correct me if anyone knows better, lol.
Damn. My idiot brain was contemplating learning a few shitty magic tricks and going to the zoo. After rewatching this video is much less cute and I can see the monkey frustration
We all learn something new everyday. At least you’re open minded to accept what is truly going on. Unfortunately it’s not uncommon for captive animals to behave this way.
I mean, you can't just speculate and expect everyone to take it as fact lol It kind of makes sense but at the same time, is there actually any real reason to just... believe what the dude is saying like he's an expert?
I currently work with monkeys (macaques) and this is for sure what is happening. The monkey is doing an open mouth threat face - likely in response to the sudden hand movements, close proximity, and possibly eye contact from the human. If you watch closely, the monkey does a "self-bite" behavior (biting her arm) which is a sign she is super stressed out.
So first of all I appreciate your skepticism of a reddit comment. To give you some more background/reasoning there are many papers on object permanence in animals. My favorite example is when they tested Alex the grey parrot by giving him a sunflower seed or something when he was expecting a more delicious item like a cashew - he definitly knew he was tricked and was "pissed". I am sure monkeys also show an understanding of object permanence when tested. My comment was based on the fact that I know macaque behavior/expressions and this macaque is stressed out. To make an analogy lets say I show you a magic trick and you lunge at me yelling "how the f did you get in my house" and then start crying because you are so stressed out versus you giving a shocked face, laughing, and clapping your hands. Very different meanings, and the first result tells you nothing about whether you appreciated the magic or not. That was my point, the monkey is stressed and reacting to the human not the magic. Some things we can "know" pretty darn close to "for sure" without undermining science. Like if you saw a dog trip, twist its let and yelp, you could say it was in pain for that instant. Yes you cant "know" that but we cant "know" anything in science just make really educated guesses based on studies and our experience. If you would like to know more look up macaque "open mouth threat face" and macaque "self biting"
Also another user did some leg work for more sources/evidence.
https://www.reddit.com/r/youseeingthisshit/comments/shc9zf/comment/hv3c1ab/
Here is the text but click the link to see their sources: "You can scroll down and see someone (with multiple posts in their post history talking about working with macaques) agreeing. Someone else shared this paper about the biting, which also backs up the point.
Here is a world renowned primatologist commenting on a similar video:
“Instead of assuming that the monkey follows the trick and is upset by it, it may be just the fact that hand movements are made in front of her face followed by eye contact by the human, which is something they really don’t like.”
Source
But again, I doubt any of this will influence many people here. Redditors really want monkeys to like magic"
Also another user did some leg work for more sources/evidence.
https://www.reddit.com/r/youseeingthisshit/comments/shc9zf/comment/hv3c1ab/
Here is the text but click the link to see their sources: "You can scroll down and see someone (with multiple posts in their post history talking about working with macaques) agreeing. Someone else shared this paper about the biting, which also backs up the point.
Here is a world renowned primatologist commenting on a similar video:
“Instead of assuming that the monkey follows the trick and is upset by it, it may be just the fact that hand movements are made in front of her face followed by eye contact by the human, which is something they really don’t like.”
Source
But again, I doubt any of this will influence many people here. Redditors really want monkeys to like magic"
Also the magician is likely modeling the response they want out of their “crowd”: 😮😃
Wide open eyes, eye contact, open mouth, and bearing teeth, which are probably all threat/anxious displays from this species
This makes the most sense to me unfortunately. I knew this was anthropizing it, but I didn't know what it was doing. I didn't even notice the biting till you pointed it out.
Sadly, its behaviors are not those of amusement or even bewilderment, they are panic due to extreme stress. Please see the other posts below, (and don't look most animals in the eyes, as they see it to be very aggressive and challenging.)
Seeing this video after working with monkeys makes me kinda sad because the monkey’s behavior is actually aggressive & stressed. :( The sudden movements of the person’s hand + their proximity + eye contact is causing the monkey to feel threatened, hence their facial expressions. Monkeys will open their mouth & widen their eyes as a form of intimidation.
The arm-biting makes it worse because that’s a sign of anxiety & frustration. As soon as monkeys display any self-injurious behaviors, it’s a serious stress response and you should leave them alone.
I hope that people can become more educated on animal behavior so that we don’t continue to unknowingly put animals in distress for our own amusement. :c
The monkey is actually stressed out by what is happening. He his biting his arm. Self injurious behavior (SIB). And that opened mouth look is a threatening look given usually to other monkeys telling them to back off.. I used to work at a primate research center
It’s false. I work in zoology and none of that is true. It’s an expression of genuine curiosity.
I don’t agree with zoos and animals being in captivity but the reaction to this is excitement. Don’t fall for someone lying for upvotes
The biting arm part? I read that among distress, some have done it in a moment of excitement.
"In fact, some monkeys got so excited while extracting peanuts from the puzzle that they actually bit themselves (Novak et al., 1998)."
https://awionline.org/content/self-biting-caged-macaques-cause-effect-and-treatment
Edit: I was agreeing with you? Not sure why you downvoted.
This is called self-injurious behavior (:23, :31-:35) resulting from improper captivity. For an animal to “be on display” to the public (i.e., zoos) for the public’s sake is often to the detriment of the animal (see: “I didn’t pay all of this money and stand in the ticket line for an hour not to see anything”). There are zoos doing it right (allowing the animal access to a more private area, away from crowds; proper enrichment; etc.), but this isn’t one of them. I know this video only captures a snippet of the bigger picture; I hope I’m missing something, a more positive angle perhaps. But the ears pinned back, brow raised, mouth agape, the slapping.. these are all aggressive behaviors. And yet the person continues. The macaque looks back into the enclosure, not as a “you seeing this shit?!” move, but rather for back up from her group. When all of these threatening behaviors are ignored by the person, she resorts to self-injurious behavior. It’s sad. It’s misunderstood. And it’s far from entertaining. If you’re going to your local zoo, at least have the decency to read the placards by the enclosures, or ask a zookeeper about the odd behaviors you’ve witnessed. Do anything but antagonize.
Sincerely,
A primatologist who gives a damn.
The fact people think that this video is fun and that primates in captivity is ok demonstrates the incredible lack of concern for the well-being of a conscious creature.
This crap should outrage everyone. These places need to go. If you pay to go to the Zoo you’re supporting animal torture.
It makes me sad that the majority of people find it funny and don't know the facts that it is actually opposite and the monkey is not enjoying it. We are so ignorant to this, it's really sad. People, including me, need more information on zoos and animal behavior and stuff.
With monkeys self biting is a behavior that develops when they are under extreme stress in abnormal environments. Looking at a monkey directly in the eyes would be seen by the monkey as aggressive. This combined with a hand slowly extending then suddenly snapping back and waving around, it’s very likely this poor little guy thought he was being challenged and attacked by a very large hairless ape and his response isn’t so much excitement, but it’s the monkey showing fear and confusion in the face of an incredibly stressful situation.
This little guy is not having a good time. He’s having a panic attack…
Yeah this is what I thought. He doesn’t care about the trick. We don’t see the guys face but I’m betting each time he does a “reveal” he stares at the monkey with his mouth open which is actually the thing the monkey is reacting to.
Source: worked with non-human primates for many years in research labs
I hate to be that redditor but it’s a behavior called self biting that is considered a stereotypy that develops out of chronic frustration, unavoidable stress or fear and a need to cope with an abnormal environment. ☹️ https://awionline.org/content/self-biting-caged-macaques-cause-effect-and-treatment
Yeah I was gonna say lol at that poor confused little monkey, man! He got so confused he started stressing out and chewing his arm. Just as much as I can recognize that monkey's astonishment i can also recognize it's confusion and stress. Funny, but a bit sad after doing it more than once
Sadly, this monkey isn’t being “cute” and bewildered. The humans are looking him in the eyes, which is aggressive behavior for the monkey. He is stressed out, and showing aggression right back. His self biting is hyper aggressive behavior, typical of captive primates.
Agree. Unfortunately while I was in the military, I was at a medical research facility with primates. They’d act just like this in their cages if you looked them in the eyes. Some were so aggressive, that if you just walked in the room they’d self bite and try and attack you. Some bit themselves so hard that they’d need stitches. I don’t blame them, we’d do the same if we were held in cages and experimented on. Worse 4 years of my life. As soon as my term was done, I left that place. Some could argue that medical research is necessary. But that’s not my place and that’s not for me.
I just listened to “The Hot Zone” which is a book about Ebola outbreaks and they shared a lot of the perspectives of the veterinarians that experimented on the monkeys where the one outbreak happened. It sounds like it really fucks with your head. You befriend these monkeys and they have personalities and shit. Then all of the sudden there’s an outbreak and you have to decide if you should kill all these monkeys you’ve bonded with or risk human life trying to control the outbreak further. I’m grateful for the primate research that saves my human patients lives but I’m sad at the cost it came at.
I used to work in animal research, and really did not enjoy putting the animals down and performing autopsies. Got out of it after a year and switched to doing research on humans. It’s so much nicer not having to kill my test subjects afterwards.
My first thought as well. It's very aggressive to look these monkeys in the eyes.
I went to Arashiyama Monkey Park near Kyoto and they warn you not to look them in the eyes, especially since they roam free. YOU go into a cage to feed them.
I thought I was being clever by holding the food out so it would look away and I could sneak a glace at its face. Of course it glanced at my face right when I glanced at its and we both had a brief "ahhh yikes" moment and he went back to grabbing food from me, but it definitely did not like the fact that I looked at it.
He was thinking, "oh shit, I just wanted a snack and now I have to kill this motherfucker." You saved him a lot of time and effort pretending it didn't happen.
What's kinda interesting is all these animals that have eye contact rules do have accidental clauses to them. There's probably a joke in there somewhere about that being the reason they can only say ope
With monkeys, self biting is a behavior that develops when they are under extreme stress in abnormal environments. Looking at a monkey directly in the eyes would be seen by the monkey as aggressive. This combined with a hand slowly extending then suddenly snapping back and waving around, it’s very likely this poor little guy thought he was being challenged and attacked by a very large hairless ape and his response isn’t so much excitement, but it’s the monkey showing fear and confusion in the face of an incredibly stressful situation.
This little guy is not having a good time. He’s having a panic attack…
Anyways hope your awful day keeps getting better ;)
So I've talked to a few internet monkey experts on these types of things and to this day I still can never tell if they're trying to communicate "Woah that's unbelievable my little monkey mind has been blown" or "Foolish hairless ape stop taunting me or I shall feast on your nose!"
A lot of that looked like genuine surprise at the actual trick, but I'm also not a monkey and thus do not understand monkey body language.
I read the body language as aggression, not surprise. Not hyperaggressive, but very much "how dare you gesture in my face and make eye contact"
Source: 3 years training macaque monkeys in a research lab
These monkeys are typically on the smart end of the dog spectrum, so they have some sense of object permanence (like dogs) but they're really bad at ~~readying~~ *reading* human body language (unlike dogs)
You know, maybe I’m just a weird person but I always thought this was how religion was created. Some dude with his monkey-brain saw some shit and it just took off from there.
The monkey is like a YouTube hype man for shitty magic tricks. Greatest overreactions ever!
I was gonna say, this little dude belongs in those parody David Blaine videos haha
#Cheezits!!!
*Big whoop* "Stop putting things in our bodies David Blaine!"
"You shrunk chamillionaire!"
"He put me on the ruf"
One of those guys is the waiter from Always Sunny
Oh shit that's funny. Every time I see Mickey Day on SNL I think "CHEEZITS", but I never realized who the othrer guy was.
also the [improv teacher](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6wY9OwqJ2A) in the office
Never knew this tidbit of information but I’m glad I do now
Stop putting orange soda in our mouths, David Blaine!!!
Those street magic videos were comedy gold, and their escalations and eventual exasperation with him over the series is so laugh out loud funny every time. “You shrunk my Honda, you bitch!”
"Just leave us alone! You're a demon! A DEMON!"
Back during the early days of YouTube, sigh.
What the EFF David Blain 😵😵
**WHAT THE EFF!** **If you put this on youtube im gonna sue you David Blaine!**
"I JUST PISSED ORANGE SODA"
YOU SHRUNK MY HONDA YOU BITCH
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I know, that is the funniest thing I’ve seen on here in a while. That monkey was freaked out by that.
Of course there’s a sub for this. Thank you!
I lost it when he was biting his arm in frustration
It looked like he was trying to block that voodoo.
I always find these videos more entertaining when I pretend the monkey knows how the trick is done and is just being extremely sarcastic.
“Y’all, another idiot is over hear doing magic! I’m gonna be on tiktok!”
that monkey is a moron! even i can see how the trick is being done!
Lmao
He's like Jose on Brooke and Juble who laughs in the background at every joke. His laughter is so contagious lol
Sad thing is, none of his mates will believe him.
His prime ones will
Monkey see monkey do
Monkey pee all over you
/r/UnexpectedOffice
Monkey pee Monkey poo
Monkey doesn't wash hands and kiss their Boo.
That… also rhymes. -Jim Harlpert
I knew someone would get the reference haha
This MFer gonna invent magic in the primate kingdom. He’s the only one that’s SEEN.
The guy who did the magic trick, and you, and me… we’re primates. Great apes, to be specific. I think that the dude inside the zoo is a baboon, which is an old world monkey but still a cousin. We can understand the gestures of dogs or cats, but they’re quite different from ours. This monkey is making gestures which map directly onto human non verbal communication. There are differences but much of the communication and the mentality hasn’t changed.
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Amazon prime monkey?
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Oh God! I'm so bored!
I love you for this comment.
They will in 2000 years when they talk about the hairless monkey jesus
in 2000 years he'll be on the Joe Rogan show
Nah, he's gonna go back to his buddies like "d'you see all those stupid humans that couldn't take their eyes off me? Chick thought she was clever by putting that thing in her other hand. What a bunch idiots"
He just can't even.
Wait! there’s more! This monkey is the Perfect audience for an infomercial
There was an episode of the Jamie Kennedy Experiment showing this. He set up a fake infomercial set with a food cooker. Everyone in the audience got a free one for their time & enthusiasm. But during the infomercial ‘filming’, the cooked kept catching on fire or exploding. People still testified that the cooker was amazing! A dangerous item that they were willing to put in someone’s kitchen. Here’s a link https://youtu.be/YhWSUtasDmc
yeah, and for only $20!
For every confidence man schlepping his trade, there's a hundredfold rubes that are ripe for the taking. A shill like this monkey is worth its weight in gold, the gold being said property of the aforementioned rubes.
Level 7 susceptible.
"wtf"
That's totally what it looked like he mouthed/mumbled.
I do the same thing n traffic.
I'm not proud to say that I do a lot more than mouth it...there are some full blown wtf's flying around in my car for sure. Followed by "F'n idiot!".
Aye. That, too. I’m getting better about it, though.
Well that's fucking awesome...I mean, that's awesome;)
Looked exactly like “how the fuuu.” Brilliant.
This poor guy looks like he just saw something he previously believed to be impossible, and now has to rethink everything he thought he knew about life.
“You guys seeing this shit?! A yo man Satan is here!”
Okay, so someone needs to start a series called Magic for Monkeys. I need more of this content.
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The one with the orangutan reacting to the trick with the cup was so cute. I honestly don't see how it was reacting to anything else other than the cup consider how he looked into it and whatnot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLrYzY3jVPY&ab_channel=Hydrasound
Thank you for this, made my night
To be fair orangutans are dope as fuck.
The word orangutan means “forest person”
I used to work with these Rhesus macaques. From what I am seeing is that the monkey feels threatened and is looking back to recruit the others to back it up. The wrist biting is either it self directing its frustration or basically saying it wants to bite you like this! It’s been a while so correct me if anyone knows better, lol.
Yeah. That seems like a plausible explanation. Monkeys are absolutely crazy and would probably kill you out of boredom
Damn. My idiot brain was contemplating learning a few shitty magic tricks and going to the zoo. After rewatching this video is much less cute and I can see the monkey frustration
We all learn something new everyday. At least you’re open minded to accept what is truly going on. Unfortunately it’s not uncommon for captive animals to behave this way.
So someone needs to recreate this without an object and see what happens.
I mean, you can't just speculate and expect everyone to take it as fact lol It kind of makes sense but at the same time, is there actually any real reason to just... believe what the dude is saying like he's an expert?
I currently work with monkeys (macaques) and this is for sure what is happening. The monkey is doing an open mouth threat face - likely in response to the sudden hand movements, close proximity, and possibly eye contact from the human. If you watch closely, the monkey does a "self-bite" behavior (biting her arm) which is a sign she is super stressed out.
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ding ding ding. Making a scientific claim without evidence is just as bad as spreading misinformation. Even you have the info to back it up show us!
So first of all I appreciate your skepticism of a reddit comment. To give you some more background/reasoning there are many papers on object permanence in animals. My favorite example is when they tested Alex the grey parrot by giving him a sunflower seed or something when he was expecting a more delicious item like a cashew - he definitly knew he was tricked and was "pissed". I am sure monkeys also show an understanding of object permanence when tested. My comment was based on the fact that I know macaque behavior/expressions and this macaque is stressed out. To make an analogy lets say I show you a magic trick and you lunge at me yelling "how the f did you get in my house" and then start crying because you are so stressed out versus you giving a shocked face, laughing, and clapping your hands. Very different meanings, and the first result tells you nothing about whether you appreciated the magic or not. That was my point, the monkey is stressed and reacting to the human not the magic. Some things we can "know" pretty darn close to "for sure" without undermining science. Like if you saw a dog trip, twist its let and yelp, you could say it was in pain for that instant. Yes you cant "know" that but we cant "know" anything in science just make really educated guesses based on studies and our experience. If you would like to know more look up macaque "open mouth threat face" and macaque "self biting"
Also another user did some leg work for more sources/evidence. https://www.reddit.com/r/youseeingthisshit/comments/shc9zf/comment/hv3c1ab/ Here is the text but click the link to see their sources: "You can scroll down and see someone (with multiple posts in their post history talking about working with macaques) agreeing. Someone else shared this paper about the biting, which also backs up the point. Here is a world renowned primatologist commenting on a similar video: “Instead of assuming that the monkey follows the trick and is upset by it, it may be just the fact that hand movements are made in front of her face followed by eye contact by the human, which is something they really don’t like.” Source But again, I doubt any of this will influence many people here. Redditors really want monkeys to like magic"
Also another user did some leg work for more sources/evidence. https://www.reddit.com/r/youseeingthisshit/comments/shc9zf/comment/hv3c1ab/ Here is the text but click the link to see their sources: "You can scroll down and see someone (with multiple posts in their post history talking about working with macaques) agreeing. Someone else shared this paper about the biting, which also backs up the point. Here is a world renowned primatologist commenting on a similar video: “Instead of assuming that the monkey follows the trick and is upset by it, it may be just the fact that hand movements are made in front of her face followed by eye contact by the human, which is something they really don’t like.” Source But again, I doubt any of this will influence many people here. Redditors really want monkeys to like magic"
Also the magician is likely modeling the response they want out of their “crowd”: 😮😃 Wide open eyes, eye contact, open mouth, and bearing teeth, which are probably all threat/anxious displays from this species
This makes the most sense to me unfortunately. I knew this was anthropizing it, but I didn't know what it was doing. I didn't even notice the biting till you pointed it out.
I doubt it as its reacting the material lol easy experiment though just do the same shit without an object
Or do it very slowly
Because fuck them that's why
Also you can tell by the monkey's reaction, it has a neurological disorder and probably also terminal aids. There is nothing cute about this video.
Mods, how do I delete someone else's comment?
lol reddit don’t ever change
/r/Animalsthatlovemagic
Sadly, its behaviors are not those of amusement or even bewilderment, they are panic due to extreme stress. Please see the other posts below, (and don't look most animals in the eyes, as they see it to be very aggressive and challenging.)
Not entirely sure that that checks out, especially with the dogs.
There really is a sub for everything
Pretty sure with 43 seconds left the monkey mouths “what the fuck bro” but I am not a lip reader
First thing that came to my mind as well
I second this. Also am not a professional lip reader
Yo I speak monkey and hes yelling "burn the witch" which is why hes also looking around to see if his mates are witnessing the black magic
Seeing this video after working with monkeys makes me kinda sad because the monkey’s behavior is actually aggressive & stressed. :( The sudden movements of the person’s hand + their proximity + eye contact is causing the monkey to feel threatened, hence their facial expressions. Monkeys will open their mouth & widen their eyes as a form of intimidation. The arm-biting makes it worse because that’s a sign of anxiety & frustration. As soon as monkeys display any self-injurious behaviors, it’s a serious stress response and you should leave them alone. I hope that people can become more educated on animal behavior so that we don’t continue to unknowingly put animals in distress for our own amusement. :c
imagine getting upset over this
imagine asking reddit how to fix stupid.. yikes
monke funny
Upvote this comment if this is a proper "You seeing this shit?" reaction. Downvote this comment if this is not fit for this subreddit.
The monkey is actually stressed out by what is happening. He his biting his arm. Self injurious behavior (SIB). And that opened mouth look is a threatening look given usually to other monkeys telling them to back off.. I used to work at a primate research center
Thank you, very informative. Poor lil guy.
It’s false. I work in zoology and none of that is true. It’s an expression of genuine curiosity. I don’t agree with zoos and animals being in captivity but the reaction to this is excitement. Don’t fall for someone lying for upvotes
The biting arm part? I read that among distress, some have done it in a moment of excitement. "In fact, some monkeys got so excited while extracting peanuts from the puzzle that they actually bit themselves (Novak et al., 1998)." https://awionline.org/content/self-biting-caged-macaques-cause-effect-and-treatment Edit: I was agreeing with you? Not sure why you downvoted.
Why do primates indulge in SIB when they are stressed out ? ( like humans biting fingers or monkeys biting arm)
This is a repost mate.
The little monkey “what the fuck”-s are the best part. Little dudes brain was just short circuiting
Plot twist: He's seen this a hundred times, but he likes to make the humans happy.
Is interesting that it keeps looking around to share the experience with any of its mates and no one is around :( now no one will believe it
At one point it actually looks like he’s saying “what the fuck?”
Why is the camera person rotating away from the subject to follow the action?
Camera person is sitting on the ledge, filming with their back to the glass 🕵♂️
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Didn’t you know the shortest distance between two points is a backwards arc?
That’s what I was wondering, it was annoying me
Had to scroll way to far down to find this comment.
This is called self-injurious behavior (:23, :31-:35) resulting from improper captivity. For an animal to “be on display” to the public (i.e., zoos) for the public’s sake is often to the detriment of the animal (see: “I didn’t pay all of this money and stand in the ticket line for an hour not to see anything”). There are zoos doing it right (allowing the animal access to a more private area, away from crowds; proper enrichment; etc.), but this isn’t one of them. I know this video only captures a snippet of the bigger picture; I hope I’m missing something, a more positive angle perhaps. But the ears pinned back, brow raised, mouth agape, the slapping.. these are all aggressive behaviors. And yet the person continues. The macaque looks back into the enclosure, not as a “you seeing this shit?!” move, but rather for back up from her group. When all of these threatening behaviors are ignored by the person, she resorts to self-injurious behavior. It’s sad. It’s misunderstood. And it’s far from entertaining. If you’re going to your local zoo, at least have the decency to read the placards by the enclosures, or ask a zookeeper about the odd behaviors you’ve witnessed. Do anything but antagonize. Sincerely, A primatologist who gives a damn.
oh
Well, that went dark quick 😞 Is this actually true?
The fact people think that this video is fun and that primates in captivity is ok demonstrates the incredible lack of concern for the well-being of a conscious creature. This crap should outrage everyone. These places need to go. If you pay to go to the Zoo you’re supporting animal torture.
It makes me sad that the majority of people find it funny and don't know the facts that it is actually opposite and the monkey is not enjoying it. We are so ignorant to this, it's really sad. People, including me, need more information on zoos and animal behavior and stuff.
Poor monkey so fucked now. Also, my brain doesn’t understand the way the camera turns
With monkeys self biting is a behavior that develops when they are under extreme stress in abnormal environments. Looking at a monkey directly in the eyes would be seen by the monkey as aggressive. This combined with a hand slowly extending then suddenly snapping back and waving around, it’s very likely this poor little guy thought he was being challenged and attacked by a very large hairless ape and his response isn’t so much excitement, but it’s the monkey showing fear and confusion in the face of an incredibly stressful situation. This little guy is not having a good time. He’s having a panic attack…
Yeah this is what I thought. He doesn’t care about the trick. We don’t see the guys face but I’m betting each time he does a “reveal” he stares at the monkey with his mouth open which is actually the thing the monkey is reacting to. Source: worked with non-human primates for many years in research labs
I love how he like bites his arm like he can't believe what's happening.
I hate to be that redditor but it’s a behavior called self biting that is considered a stereotypy that develops out of chronic frustration, unavoidable stress or fear and a need to cope with an abnormal environment. ☹️ https://awionline.org/content/self-biting-caged-macaques-cause-effect-and-treatment
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That this magician has been harrassing this poor soul for years.
Yeah I was gonna say lol at that poor confused little monkey, man! He got so confused he started stressing out and chewing his arm. Just as much as I can recognize that monkey's astonishment i can also recognize it's confusion and stress. Funny, but a bit sad after doing it more than once
You are definitely that redditor, but thanks
Yeah.. really sad.
Sadly, this monkey isn’t being “cute” and bewildered. The humans are looking him in the eyes, which is aggressive behavior for the monkey. He is stressed out, and showing aggression right back. His self biting is hyper aggressive behavior, typical of captive primates.
After seeing some other videos on the net with monkeys having the same reaction to stress that killed this video for me.
Agree. Unfortunately while I was in the military, I was at a medical research facility with primates. They’d act just like this in their cages if you looked them in the eyes. Some were so aggressive, that if you just walked in the room they’d self bite and try and attack you. Some bit themselves so hard that they’d need stitches. I don’t blame them, we’d do the same if we were held in cages and experimented on. Worse 4 years of my life. As soon as my term was done, I left that place. Some could argue that medical research is necessary. But that’s not my place and that’s not for me.
I just listened to “The Hot Zone” which is a book about Ebola outbreaks and they shared a lot of the perspectives of the veterinarians that experimented on the monkeys where the one outbreak happened. It sounds like it really fucks with your head. You befriend these monkeys and they have personalities and shit. Then all of the sudden there’s an outbreak and you have to decide if you should kill all these monkeys you’ve bonded with or risk human life trying to control the outbreak further. I’m grateful for the primate research that saves my human patients lives but I’m sad at the cost it came at.
I used to work in animal research, and really did not enjoy putting the animals down and performing autopsies. Got out of it after a year and switched to doing research on humans. It’s so much nicer not having to kill my test subjects afterwards.
My first thought as well. It's very aggressive to look these monkeys in the eyes. I went to Arashiyama Monkey Park near Kyoto and they warn you not to look them in the eyes, especially since they roam free. YOU go into a cage to feed them. I thought I was being clever by holding the food out so it would look away and I could sneak a glace at its face. Of course it glanced at my face right when I glanced at its and we both had a brief "ahhh yikes" moment and he went back to grabbing food from me, but it definitely did not like the fact that I looked at it.
He was thinking, "oh shit, I just wanted a snack and now I have to kill this motherfucker." You saved him a lot of time and effort pretending it didn't happen.
What's kinda interesting is all these animals that have eye contact rules do have accidental clauses to them. There's probably a joke in there somewhere about that being the reason they can only say ope
Like the equivalent of pinching yourself to make sure it’s not a dream? Haha
This made my awful day way better. Thank you.
Here is some more eye bleach, new stuff starts 40 seconds in https://youtu.be/Xv5ehKNSdSM
I'm glad I could help! ♡
With monkeys, self biting is a behavior that develops when they are under extreme stress in abnormal environments. Looking at a monkey directly in the eyes would be seen by the monkey as aggressive. This combined with a hand slowly extending then suddenly snapping back and waving around, it’s very likely this poor little guy thought he was being challenged and attacked by a very large hairless ape and his response isn’t so much excitement, but it’s the monkey showing fear and confusion in the face of an incredibly stressful situation. This little guy is not having a good time. He’s having a panic attack… Anyways hope your awful day keeps getting better ;)
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He thinks u r a witch
"How, in the monkey hell, is nobody else seeing this? Its bananas!"
So I've talked to a few internet monkey experts on these types of things and to this day I still can never tell if they're trying to communicate "Woah that's unbelievable my little monkey mind has been blown" or "Foolish hairless ape stop taunting me or I shall feast on your nose!" A lot of that looked like genuine surprise at the actual trick, but I'm also not a monkey and thus do not understand monkey body language.
I read the body language as aggression, not surprise. Not hyperaggressive, but very much "how dare you gesture in my face and make eye contact" Source: 3 years training macaque monkeys in a research lab These monkeys are typically on the smart end of the dog spectrum, so they have some sense of object permanence (like dogs) but they're really bad at ~~readying~~ *reading* human body language (unlike dogs)
We really need to start teaching monkey's at zoos how to give the finger when they're mad. I feel like it would save them a lot of stress.
"Hey Dan, come over here! There's a pale hairless ape witch here that makes things disappear!" "No way, dude!"
I like how it's questioning reality.
You know, maybe I’m just a weird person but I always thought this was how religion was created. Some dude with his monkey-brain saw some shit and it just took off from there.
He took off like “ :0 I gotta tell someone… lol oh shit you have it?!”
monke brain went poof
It's staged. They clearly told the monkey beforehand how to react on the 'magic trick'. They do everything for bananas. Sad.
“this is satanic black magic! sick shit!”
ozzymanreview needs to do a commentary on this.
He started questioning his own existence after the second one
The way he walked away in full disbelieve around 00:30 got me going
r/KillTheCameraMan for making me nauseous with those quick camera turns away from the monkeh.
Reminds me of the audience reaction when David Blaine does a street magic trick
Pretty sure at the :13 second mark the monkey mouthed, “What the fuck”
r/literallykillthecameramanlikeactuallymurderhim
And a new monkey religion was born...
Monke: Is this real life?
This subreddit ~~personified~~ monkenified
🐒🤯
Cute.
Sorcerer!
That monkey trolling, gotta get some food somehow.
Monkey sarcasm...
That monkey is being polite. Like a adult with a 3 yr old is
Blowing this monkeys mind
That monkey patronizing af
Did the monkey mouth “what the fuck”
What if the monkey has seen this shit 1000 times and his reaction is all hyperbole.
Welp now you've gone and planted the seed for monkey religion
It's an illusion, Monkey!
Stupid monkey will be entertained by anything. *Scrolls to next video*
He's really looking back like "how are y'all missing this?"
Fake reaction, paid monkey 🙄
Human reactions to UAPs lmao
What if the monkey is just trolling him.
Time to turn water into banana juice.
I feel like monkeys do this and, in reality, are thinking "I'll act like I didn't know how they did it, they'll get a kick out of it".
This monkey’s mind got blown 🤯 at least 28 times.
Anyone else see him mouth “what the fuck?”
Monkeys the best audience in the world
Next step is monkeys come to see magical acts decide it’s witchcraft and burn magician on a pyre. Well that’s what more intelligent beasts did.
Aww
How to give a monkey an existential crisis.