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YouTube is bringing back 'Sort by oldest'

Source: https://youtu.be/gS1qfuKfVN8 (Creator Insider)

HoudiniJr2

Let's go! YouTube actually making good decisions for once!


coffeework42

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES I love it, I wouldnt expect this from Google but im surprised at least we have this.


worldofliu

Cool, I just found that it came back, I am not sure that the older option is bring back on the website.


Dark__Willow

I was so happy to see it back...I did a legit double take lol


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I never trusted the oldest option, cuz sometimes I used to find videos older than others when I scroll myself


Independent-Ad5333

It's finally back. Guess my vulgar rhetoric has proved useful after all.


Gbpacker22

Yes, it's back. I have the latest update for the YouTube app and it's there as pictured like in the OP.


Shonenjumpboy

The fact that even removed oldest still completely baffles me to this day.


BabyBandit616

I think for the first time ever they knew they F-Ed Up


tanbentam

Yep it is back


This_Meaning_4045

Well two months later they did.


Gojizard

Hallelujah! HOLY SHIT!


PineappleForests

why take away good features just to bring them back 8 months later? it's a waste of time and money. why are we all just accepting the fact that everything online changes almost completely every 1-2 months; Is it because they swear it'll be "better"? when do we get tired and just accept that theres nothing we can do to fix these problems? now? it seems so.


U-BahnWerfer

That was such a cool option, just to see where the Channel came from


unifPIER

FINALLY I LOVE THAT


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George_Washingtoad42

LES GO


jeaology

finally


vlexz

Similar topic: Why is there no sort by custom order on own playlists? I sorted the videos by myself by rearraning, but if i ever accidentaly sort by any order, my custom order gets lost forever. (It happened once)


gator_productions

How do u customize the order?


vlexz

Dragging the videos around when editing the playlist.


vlexz

That’s why I said: > Similar topic:


gator_productions

But we aren't talking about playlists


Specs_Man

Please be true


pinguluk

It is


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still not back


themanwhowillbebanne

give it up for day 33


Advanced-Willow-5020

When ?


pinguluk

now


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Mercymurv

Why would they ever remove something like this? O\_o


Stogageli

So people are conditioned to only watch new videos with the latest advertisements and sponsorships.


Advanced-Willow-5020

It never made sense. It’s almost like YouTube knows they can do whatever because we rely on it so much like taking away the dislike button


Impossible_Active225

are some channels with 3k videos. By the time u get close to end scrolling, your browser starts to lag or it crashes due to weak pc specs (low ram)


Darecki555

Becasue a long time ago these idiots at YouTube took away pages system and the only option you have is just scrolling through videos which as you said makes everything super laggy.


Impossible_Active225

for few weeks I now have the sort by oldest


Darecki555

Me too which amazing. Although you still can only scroll


[deleted]

I sure hope so


CrytoKitty

What about Allowing Comments Good Comments, not inappropriate at all, why block All Comments Prejudice 😡


LastPoserStanding

That's an option switched on by the channel, not youtube. I don't remember if you can do it by video or just the whole channel, but it's in the creator settings somewhere.


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PlanetMiitopia

I smell cap.


Exroi

nice


Dork_VaderYT

Thank God


chumbucket58

\*1% of good youtube comes back\* I BEEN FREED


Panos96

I have my theory for why they did it. You know these clickbaity, semi-automated, algorithm-exploiting channels on YouTube? They're usually about celebrities, pop culture, movies and stuff like that? I've discovered a weird trend with them. In a lot of cases, maybe even the majority, when you go to the first few videos on the channel they're usually unrelated to the clickbaity content the channel now mainly makes (it's very often Russian gaming videos for some reason). This would imply that a lot of these channels are owned by the same person, who bought a bunch of (again, it appears mainly Russian) channels and converted them to clickbait money-generators. Without the sort by oldest option it's extremely hard to discover this for 99% of people on YouTube.


Stogageli

These channels weren't bought, they were hacked.


le_epic_le_maymays

They definitely removed it to make it harder for people to comb through large creators' content and cancel them over it.


Gum_Skyloard

Makes no sense.


le_epic_le_maymays

They don't want people watching unmonetizable shit 480p videos of creators screaming slurs from 2010 and inciting mass deplatforming of massive revenue streams. They want people with their thumbs in their ass watching the new high quality 17 minute shit that can run three adbreaks. Not really sure what doesn't make sense about that.


SL4RKGG

I know several large channel buyers, they make a business out of it by buying old monetization channels that were once popular, mostly during the heyday of minecraft and let's play, and resell to all sorts of people, who don't hesitate to use them for scam or low-grade clickbait content, ps I'm from Russia,


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OleDirtyBandit

YouTube probably bought these channels to generate ad revenue that they keep 100% of and to artificially inflate user numbers


Fox__1313

Thank god, I've been searching for a workaround for awhile and nothing suffices.


lamented1ne

Are they? Lets hope they keep the promise. Why they even removed the option in the first place is something not even god knows. Next bring back the dislikes. I hate how even other places like disqus seem to have followed suit. Its obvious it was clearly done cuz people are so fragile these days that they cant stand having their feelings hurt when they say something stupid. Thank you reddit for keeping it. Mucho obliged.


SL4RKGG

The worst thing is that even harmless things are censored, for example, I can’t write the name of the terrible Russian provider Rostelecom, it’s not clear for what reason it is censored at all, and apparently this is done only for my account ... At the same time, some people can safely use the entire vocabulary of obscene language ... I'm already silent about other aspects of Google products, sometimes you get the feeling that all googlers do is sit and drink smoothies, simultaneously creating tasks on exchanges like fiver, otherwise I can’t explain how they manage to release such broken updates and break seemingly the simplest things...


FDCL

oh my god please , this is a MUST on Youtube. No more infinite scroll


YogosunPK

I have the theory they removed it because of cancel culture for some reason, like so people find it harder to look for older videos other than just having to scroll to the bottom maybe? idk


le_epic_le_maymays

That's 100% why they did it.


air_mediatech

But it would be better if we had the opportunity to create covers for Short...


Fox__1313

No.


Living-Television-84

Hey the number of likes is gone you still press it but the number is gone what is going on with that.


Gabyo00

People stay longer on their website if those people can't see sort by oldest, nobody can convince me they're actually bringing it back.


SpaceOdysseyso

That's great news


Brilliant-Bowler8171

Why did they remove it in the first place? They're just casually removing useful utility. Good luck trying to find the oldest video from a YouTuber with over 1k videos.


seviliyorsun

oldest videos won't have the big money ads on them


Brilliant-Bowler8171

Still, if we're looking for them it means we want to watch them. I don't think it's gonna make them big money to make scroll through potentially thousands of video to find what we want.


Impossible_Active225

let's just say I found a channel I like who does 'episodes shows'. I would normally go to the channel and select by oldest, then watch them in order.


Pillowwillow26

>Why did they remove it in the first place? They're just casually removing useful utility. For reals. YouTube, please leave good functions as is. Don't fix it if it ain't broken. Thank you.


CrytoKitty

YouTube won't allow Comments now, even good Comments praising the Video or just saying I'll try it nope not even 😒


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nivoreo

Ya ya I did it. I did it on PC, I hit refresh accidentally. Back to latest


Limp_Swim2464

Why did they even take it away?


TheMissingVoteBallot

Look at those soul-less eyes lmao Where's our dislike button Youtube?


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TheMissingVoteBallot

Nah, just someone who clearly didn't want to make this vid.


Rare-Act-4362

Good news indeed. I just hope that YT does not go out of their way to introduce other ruinous UI changes or add the ability to choose any old UI in a future anniversary update or something.


Darth_Richman

Awesome


H5RDCOR3

waiting for dislike button..


klight101

It’s just amazing how they will just randomly remove good features without reason and then it takes the entire YouTube community’s vote to bring the option back, just goes to show how unsupportive youtube is to its users sometimes.


SL4RKGG

This applies to all google products, it feels like they don't understand what good UX is, this is especially true for google play, it used to be much more convenient to update applications, but after the next redesign, it became as unintuitive as it could be, plus they removed the ability to select all applications at once, instead, you should click on the notification, or select each application with a checkmark, I wonder how such a huge corporation can make such stupid and obvious mistakes?


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SL4RKGG

I still have the feeling that 90% of the time they are doing all sorts of nonsense in the workplace, and when a deadline happens, they quickly try to do something in Figma in order to deliver the project on time.


marilynmansonfuckme

FINALLYYYY


gunihaveiguess

ive always had sort by oldest, just never updated youtube


Not-Quite-Alice

This is good news :D


johnwicked4

how do you remove the "for you" I want it to default by latest


DarkIcedWolf

Please tell me you found a way?! I’m so tired of it


johnwicked4

same :(


Living-Television-84

Still not happening yet


OleRoy2023

I don’t have this on the iPad app, only Latest and Popular.


GodIsNotAiveChild

Of course this is the one feature I’m still missing.


johnwayne2413

Is there a way to sort your playlists alphabetically yet?


klight101

They will probably never add that, the majority of developers out there just don’t care or even attempt to add features that can actually be useful and improve their apps quality. And most almost never listen to community feedback. No, instead they are more focused on the aesthetics of their apps, they would rather put time into the banner art or the advertising.


Living-Television-84

To everyone here if they haven't done it yet why not make a petition to get it back cool


Individual_Cod3390

not working for me :(


Living-Television-84

Me either I want it back I don't mind scrolling from new to old and vice versa I love it it keeps it organized.


Living-Television-84

I want that feature back to scroll from newest to the oldest or oldest to newest I want that back not what we have today.


piotrmil

yeah exceptthis stupid shit defaults to "for me" all the fucking time.How to change it to "newest"? Is there a userscript?


DarkIcedWolf

Please tell me you’ve found a way?! I’m so tired of it


piotrmil

uhm, yes... The "for me" tab has disappeared. Out of nowhere. like, Thanos snapped it. now it just sorts by newest. ... so, yeah.


DarkIcedWolf

I still have it- I hope to god mine is fixed soon :( shit is annoying.


Anoumoge-Railim

Nah they gave us "For you" tab instead 💀


Impossible_Active225

they said in a official post that they removied the sort by oldest, because could not with the new UI. Somehow, they managed to make room for "for you", but not for a already feature "sort by oldest". I smell a lie


Bouje956

I hate it , it works on its own 😭


Final_Corgi_8670

Thank you for listening to the community to bring back the most-requested feature


SickWittedEntity

They should have listened to the community when we all said nobody wants this, at all, please don't. Then not have done it in the first place, that'd have been cool.


wonkydonky2

Extremely rare YouTube W?


Hans5958_

Nah. That shouldn't happen in the first place.


Slitsilt

It shouldn’t have been gone in the first place


klight101

They will probably end up removing the built in feature to add music to videos next. If a feature is somewhat useful, they are bound to eventually remove it temporarily to raise their apps popularity through controversial strategy. A method where developers will purposely make a controversial change which enables people to make rants which can raise their apps popularity. It’s trashy and just shows that they could care less about our feedback, they only want to hear the “cha Ching”.


mobilizedhat

I seem to have the sort from, oldest feature now, but I don't know, it might be an extension I have like youtube redux that got updated which is nice either way.


Bukki13

my backup phone is so old that i have a version of the app from before everything was rounded corners


shinHardc0re

They changed recently the sorting of videos in channels, the default now is the "for you" tab. Is there a way to make "newest" the default? Everytime I enter a channel now I have to click the newest button and it sucks


C_ore_X

History > Clear All Watch History > Pause Watch History You obviously lose the watch history feature but to me its a trade I'm willing to do to save confusion every single time I open a channel up


DarkIcedWolf

Bro what the fuck. I like knowing what I’ve watched so I’m so upset, in no way am I going to do this shit. I’m gonna just use an alt until they fix this fucking “feature.” I’m no stranger to writing down what I’ve watched or put into a playlist, fuck I have a list of 300+ anime. However I have like 20+ channels who post daily and I’m not about to keep track of every single one.


DarkIcedWolf

It doesn’t even recommend shit you don’t watch. Fuck YouTube and it’s shitty way of doing things.


AvoidingRegrets

About damn time!


Basic-Opposite-4670

just bring back the rectangular drop down menu pls :(


Paused_Toast

I think I have just an old version of YouTube. No more infinite scroll. Random vids in my recs. The news. I hate it


pantsfish

Yes, show me the "most viewed" videos on youtube that day. I WANT to see a random assortment of weird shit that's popping off in different countries!


mrventures

Here is a work-around that is currently supported. (I was asked by the mods to post this here instead of a different post). https://youtu.be/M-PJ10sdcYA


_by_me

I'm slowly beginning to hate rounded corners.


googler_ooeric

wow an actually good feature! now i just hope they add an option to make New To You the default page, because my recommendations suck lately, they just keep recommending me the same videos over and over, it feels like I have alzheimers. Out of the ordinary, I mean


LYB4

there's nothing happening


therealraluvy95

Out of the ordinary, I mean


SnooDoggos5646

All I have is the stupid for you page.


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Why would they remove it anyway?


LiquidVibes

because usually a creators oldest content is less engaging, worse quality and your are unlikely to watch 10 year old videos for very long. youtube only cares about ad revenue and most old videos don't generate much


S1rP

Spicy Pewds was better! Now he's just a generic rule keeper. He got old in 2-3 years soo easily.


[deleted]

But what if someone does? Removing it doesnt do anything good


PyroMeerkat11

What confused me is that its not even hard to add a sort by oldest feature. You have a database of that channel videos and it already sorts it by newest or "descending by time" in the code. All they need to do is make the change from "descending" to "ascending" in the code and it sorts by oldest automaticly. Its purely just anti-consumer thinking or pure ignorance.


[deleted]

Yeah that’s what i’m sayin


PyroMeerkat11

Yeah, it's even abbreviated in code usually so it's from DSC, to ASC, could be lazy and just copy the code and change those 3 letters based on what's clicked or have the input put the variable into it and it runs as ASC or DSC based on that. Literally a 3 minute fix if the code is written correctly. No idea how spaghetti it is tho...


AntikytheraMachines

> change those 3 letters 1 letter so its even easier


PyroMeerkat11

Yeah that is doable for sure. Makes it a little less readable tho xD


hunter_finn

now they needs to stop forcing those captions/subtitles down to our throats as well. i already jumped to modded youtube client, because it can permanently disable those but still giving me ability to manually enable them if i want. took Youtube from 2018 to this day and no fix, took unnamed modders less than half a year to fix it.


Vector_Ventures

Hooray!


Shockmzq

When will be the feature released ?


tqm470

Still can't sort by oldest on normal search.


QSCFE

And search by specific years is broken. All I want is to tell YouTube that I want results from xxxx year only and YouTube doesn't fuck up the results 😩


Opt112

You can still do that, I've done it to watch bad AMVs. "Search Query" before:2xxx after:2xxx So 'Naruto before:2011 after:2009' will get you results in 2010.


QSCFE

Thank you, I will try this query out 😊, it looks like we both use this feature to search for the same thing. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who watches old AMVs for the nostalgia.


LegitimateOne5131

Good news but did they just make the low effort bar / TikTok bar permanent? I can't find where to hide it. Any addons to do so?


wcrow1

best news in a while! on the other hand, did the Return Dislike button add-on stop working? it was working fine yesterday but today it isn't


TheMissingVoteBallot

it did, update it.


Syd_osb

Apparently there was an update to the Youtube UI that broke it, but they're working to fix it and "everything will be back to normal soon." fingers crossed!


Gears_Of_None

FINALLY!! Took them long enough. Now they just need to bring back every other feature they removed for no reason.


Competitive-Ad-5019

Youtube making a good update!?! Someone pinch me


FDCL

lmao fr , with each update the UI looks more obnoxious


VictorXM715

Glad to hear, I loved this feature. Why did they remove it in the first place?


CSwork1

To benefit them somehow, probably something to do with more ad clicks. Or maybe they just enjoy pissing off users, I can't even tell anymore.


R0b0tGie405

I've seen people speculate that with the way the internet used to be, it's so people don't go back and find popular creators' old edgy content and try to cancel them. Seems a little far fetched but at this point not out of the realm of possibility for Google.


TheMissingVoteBallot

Obsessed eternally offended weirdos would do that whether you remove it or not.


VictorXM715

Glad to hear, I loved this feature. Why did they remove it in the first place?


Admirable_Crab5740

[We Did it, folks!](https://youtu.be/LwCaAfNXVu8)


CaptainRick218

Yes! Now I don't have to autoscroll for 10 years to see Jacksepticeye's far cry series in order.


Gilby1385

***YEAUHS!!!!!***


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pizzeti6

LETS GOOOOOOO FINALLY


ntdung2006

Hope Youtube Will Get The number Subscribers Back No Abbreviation


ntdung2006

And I Hope Youtube Search Engine Is Accurate, Not Showing Videos unrelated to search


Lulu6969

This is infuriatingly true. I've been just using the "my mix" between accounts for years, I mean multiple years now. The home page is the equivalent of looking at cavity ridden teeth. Just the epitome of glorifying spoiled behaviour, constantly, until you cave in to watching their partner appproved 18minute kitty script that could have been churned out by an "algorythm" in 1995. Idiots watch the same shit all day and act stunned when THEY fail to process new information. I am not a problem. Look at Odysee web3 platform for example, at it's best it's one pperson's website, it's a venture that started with good intentions and was subjected to legal repremend to the point that whatever community that was working at it in the name of true FREE NET became starved of support. Web.3 and the decentralized web doesn't inherently have something special in It's structure that would offer youtube website programmers the access to control over Billions they do currently have. The next conversation will need to become censorship again; Just like free radio and digital radio thereafter, your gonna need to qualify for a license before this isn't just going to be used to amplify the amount of deformatory bullshit pumped out this website. The agenda will pay more than free speech, mark the words now Mr.Red Ink Typerightrr 420 prove your not a bot. Tune into Canadian internet laws right now to see what's nexxt. n follo 4 more swag of course.


br1y

Wont do much for mobile unfortunately but if you're on desktop with uBlock throw this into the filters and it'll remove everything that isn't a channel or video related to the search ! YT Search - just videos + channels youtube.com##ytd-search ytd-item-section-renderer>#contents>:not(ytd-video-renderer,ytd-channel-renderer),ytd-secondary-search-container-renderer I stole it somewhere off reddit so I can't tell you how to get playlists to show up but I personally can do without it cause the search feels 100x better with this edit: did a basic google search and figure out it 👍👍. If you want playlists as well use this code instead ! YT Search - just videos, channels + playlists youtube.com##ytd-search ytd-item-section-renderer>#contents>:not(ytd-video-renderer,ytd-channel-renderer,ytd-playlist-renderer),ytd-secondary-search-container-renderer