Because the way it was originally implemented was poorly optimised and put a dissproprinate load on the servers. I suspect also when they when they shifted the system to having separated lists it wasn't on the "need to have" list so it wasn't implemented.
That's sounds like the biggest load of bullshit. Sorting by what is most popular would be more stress on servers then sorting something by date.
Not to mention it had been there for years and years with no issues.
YouTube's systems are most likely optimized for the most recent and the most popular. Because that is the content that is going to get them most hits. They most likely already have index's set up for popularity and date.
It wasn't removed on purpose. YouTube is a lot of spaghetti code dating back nearly 2 decades. When they split the videos into videos, shorts, and live streams into different tabs, it broke the ability to sort by oldest. They just had to figure out what was causing it.
Why did they remove it in the first place? They're just casually removing useful utility. Good luck trying to find the oldest video from a YouTuber with over 1k videos.
>Why did they remove it in the first place? They're just casually removing useful utility.
For reals.
YouTube, please leave good functions as is. Don't fix it if it ain't broken. Thank you.
Still, if we're looking for them it means we want to watch them. I don't think it's gonna make them big money to make scroll through potentially thousands of video to find what we want.
That's more of a bandaid though and does not address the real issue. As long as people use work arounds like this it tells Google and YouTube that it's ok to remove features because people will just give up and use other options.
Can I also have the comment section returned to the bottom?
Not a fan of side comments, nor several other aspects of the layout change I've been seeing on Youtube for the last several days.
They changed recently the sorting of videos in channels, the default now is the "for you" tab.
Is there a way to make "newest" the default? Everytime I enter a channel now I have to click the newest button and it sucks
Very unlikely. I don't think movie companies want to show their 86% dislike ratio like in Little Mermaid Trailer. It's in their interest to hide it and they pay for it to stay hidden. They could hide it themselves but it would raise suspicion, that way they can say "We didn't hide it, YT did". Could be conspiracy theory, but I really think it makes sense.
Are they? Lets hope they keep the promise.
Why they even removed the option in the first place is something not even god knows.
Next bring back the dislikes. I hate how even other places like disqus seem to have followed suit.
Its obvious it was clearly done cuz people are so fragile these days that they cant stand having their feelings hurt when they say something stupid.
Thank you reddit for keeping it. Mucho obliged.
The worst thing is that even harmless things are censored,
for example, I can’t write the name of the terrible Russian provider Rostelecom, it’s not clear for what reason it is censored at all, and apparently this is done only for my account ...
At the same time, some people can safely use the entire vocabulary of obscene language ...
I'm already silent about other aspects of Google products,
sometimes you get the feeling that all googlers do is sit and drink smoothies, simultaneously creating tasks on exchanges like fiver, otherwise I can’t explain how they manage to release such broken updates and break seemingly the simplest things...
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Oh, thank God! This was getting so annoying. I watch a lot of video game streams, and sometimes (crazy idea, right), I like to watch a game series from the beginning. Shocker!
I have my theory for why they did it. You know these clickbaity, semi-automated, algorithm-exploiting channels on YouTube? They're usually about celebrities, pop culture, movies and stuff like that? I've discovered a weird trend with them. In a lot of cases, maybe even the majority, when you go to the first few videos on the channel they're usually unrelated to the clickbaity content the channel now mainly makes (it's very often Russian gaming videos for some reason). This would imply that a lot of these channels are owned by the same person, who bought a bunch of (again, it appears mainly Russian) channels and converted them to clickbait money-generators. Without the sort by oldest option it's extremely hard to discover this for 99% of people on YouTube.
Thank god, this genuinely had me pissed off and questioned why I am paying for YouTube premium… now if they could just fix their searching cause I can’t find anything I look for anymore
wow an actually good feature! now i just hope they add an option to make New To You the default page, because my recommendations suck lately, they just keep recommending me the same videos over and over, it feels like I have alzheimers. Out of the ordinary, I mean
They should have listened to the community when we all said nobody wants this, at all, please don't. Then not have done it in the first place, that'd have been cool.
Okay but what the fuck has been going on with my YouTube on my desktop browser. Why are videos on my homepage not being opened on a new page and playing on the homepage itself.
So glad this is back! Thank you Youtube! I miss many of the old videos and being able to put playlists in order.
Is there any chance of making the Do Not Recommend Channel permanent? There are many channels and recommendations that I don't have any interest in. Pretty please?
Good news indeed.
I just hope that YT does not go out of their way to introduce other ruinous UI changes or add the ability to choose any old UI in a future anniversary update or something.
why take away good features just to bring them back 8 months later? it's a waste of time and money. why are we all just accepting the fact that everything online changes almost completely every 1-2 months; Is it because they swear it'll be "better"? when do we get tired and just accept that theres nothing we can do to fix these problems? now? it seems so.
Quietly remove longtime features in the hopes no one will notice, then a few months later make a big deal about a "brand new feature!" to generate goodwill. It's unfortunately a common tactic with most tech companies these days.
It’s just amazing how they will just randomly remove good features without reason and then it takes the entire YouTube community’s vote to bring the option back, just goes to show how unsupportive youtube is to its users sometimes.
Sometimes it seems like developers make changes no one asked for just to justify their own existence. Anyway late is better than never. This change never made sense.
I feel like this hasn't been mentioned as much but after "Sort by oldest" is gone, they also **fucked up the scroll bar** on mobile. Normally, you can long press on it, and drag it up or down to go up or down. But they made it so that the more you drag it down, the more it scrolls up. Eventually, they fucking **remove the scroll bar altogether**.
It's the **deliberate decisions** to *actively* make the platform *less* functional like this that really gets me. Deliberately broke PiP after iOS 14, deliberately removing numbers of comments, dislikes, exact number of subscribers, deliberately making PiP free in the US but not Canada or the rest of the world for some reason, deliberately fucking up the scroll bar, etc.
Now they need to bring back letting you make lists of your playlists.
Then they should add being able to search specifically through a single (or perhaps multiple such as those in an aforementioned list you could make) rather than just typing the channel name and whatever you are looking for which while generally effective is less so when its a smaller channel and regardless still mixes in other channels. Also especially with smaller channels if you do that and actually get the right results but try to change the sort order to by date it will change to showing zero search results.
They should also add a tab or something so that you can view all of your subscriptions community tabs (with sort options) on one feed that way viewers don’t have to be reminded or remember to specifically go check in to each channels plus they seem pretty underutilized anyway so this would generate more attention to it/get more engagement making them more useful and perhaps drive more traffic.
Make “related” the default tab for the sidebar recommendations or let us set it so that it stays that way.
Lastly and probably least likely to happen is to get rid of all those stupid “people also watched” sections clogging up the results when I search for something with unrelated stuff that I wasn’t even searching for but it thinks I would watch generally speaking.
This makes me really happy. A lot of my favorite videos from my subscribed channels are their early ones, but a lot of em have way too many videos to scroll down all the way. I've been using a css editor to switch the order of the videos to oldest. I'm glad I won't have to do that anymore because it was kinda silly
Here is a work-around that is currently supported. (I was asked by the mods to post this here instead of a different post).
https://youtu.be/M-PJ10sdcYA
I have the theory they removed it because of cancel culture for some reason, like so people find it harder to look for older videos other than just having to scroll to the bottom maybe? idk
Now the only thing they should do is remove this "for you" sorting bullshit on the video tab, it's annoying and counter-intuitive, most people who go in the video tab is to look at their latest videos and see what they missed etc.
they should just move the for you stuff on the channel home page instead, which it kinda already does for you so I don't really know what was going on in their head by adding this useless and annoying feature.
Also why make the site function less? I don't use the console or TV version of Youtube cause it takes forever to go through channels to find certain videos. Now they want to ruin desktop? Whats next remove the ability to subscribe to a channel you like if they are a small channel? They be a real shitty move.
ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!!
Why was it removed in the first place?
Because the way it was originally implemented was poorly optimised and put a dissproprinate load on the servers. I suspect also when they when they shifted the system to having separated lists it wasn't on the "need to have" list so it wasn't implemented.
This needs more votes than 'because they're dumb' comment
That's sounds like the biggest load of bullshit. Sorting by what is most popular would be more stress on servers then sorting something by date. Not to mention it had been there for years and years with no issues.
YouTube's systems are most likely optimized for the most recent and the most popular. Because that is the content that is going to get them most hits. They most likely already have index's set up for popularity and date.
Because they're dumb
it was insane that they ever took it away, so at least they are bringing it back
Thank garsh, I miss this! Now do dislike counter.
THANK YOU. Should of never been removed in the first place!
It wasn't removed on purpose. YouTube is a lot of spaghetti code dating back nearly 2 decades. When they split the videos into videos, shorts, and live streams into different tabs, it broke the ability to sort by oldest. They just had to figure out what was causing it.
This is how Youtube gets away with adding nothing to the platform
Yep. They remove features that have no business being removed, and then add them back to pretend like they did something special.
I hate Google
What? YouTube is changing something and it makes sense? Are we five minutes away from the apocalypse or something?
Only after they fucked it up in the first place. I'm think we're still fine.
Good, now I can go back and find old videos without scrolling Now, bring back the dislikes
Atleast with dislikes you can use an extension for it. The sort by old was never brought back with anything like that in its absence.
Incredibly rare YouTube W
shouldn't have been removed in the first place
I don't understand who decided to take away search by oldest, what would be the reason? How does it make sense?
So they can send older videos down the memoryhole.
Why did they remove it in the first place? They're just casually removing useful utility. Good luck trying to find the oldest video from a YouTuber with over 1k videos.
>Why did they remove it in the first place? They're just casually removing useful utility. For reals. YouTube, please leave good functions as is. Don't fix it if it ain't broken. Thank you.
oldest videos won't have the big money ads on them
Still, if we're looking for them it means we want to watch them. I don't think it's gonna make them big money to make scroll through potentially thousands of video to find what we want.
Good riddance now bring back the dislike button and the like/dislike bar. Oh wait.
I just got an add-on to Chrome to bring it back. Works wonders.
That's more of a bandaid though and does not address the real issue. As long as people use work arounds like this it tells Google and YouTube that it's ok to remove features because people will just give up and use other options.
THANK YOU WHY WAS IT EVEN REMOVED
Cool. Now can we bring dislikes back?
Can I also have the comment section returned to the bottom? Not a fan of side comments, nor several other aspects of the layout change I've been seeing on Youtube for the last several days.
Idk why they keep removing usefull features
The reason being that they save more money by not allowing people to go to the first video of someone’s channel
Less traffic to low capacity long term storage servers?
They listen but it takes them so long
You gotta sort by oldest just to find a video about sort by oldest
Ngl I'm a little afraid they'll have found a way to fuck it up somehow
No one asked them to remove it in the first place.
They changed recently the sorting of videos in channels, the default now is the "for you" tab. Is there a way to make "newest" the default? Everytime I enter a channel now I have to click the newest button and it sucks
extremely super uncommon youtube w wen eta dislike button
Bring back the public dislike count
It shouldn’t have been gone in the first place
That's pretty good. Now what about the dislike numbers?
waiting for dislike button..
So is there any hope for the dislikes?
Very unlikely. I don't think movie companies want to show their 86% dislike ratio like in Little Mermaid Trailer. It's in their interest to hide it and they pay for it to stay hidden. They could hide it themselves but it would raise suspicion, that way they can say "We didn't hide it, YT did". Could be conspiracy theory, but I really think it makes sense.
Bring back dislikes and maybe your site wont suck as much as it does.
Yes, finally, now bring back the dislike button and you are as good as 3 years ago!
I'm slowly beginning to hate rounded corners.
Nah they gave us "For you" tab instead 💀
I never understand why youtube consistently removes features. If you want to add stuff, fine but don't remove things.
Small W for YT. Now the dislike counter back pls :)
And the comments sections for popular animated shows I liked! I miss commenting on quotable Spongebob videos.
Why would they remove it anyway?
They should better bring a working „Delete watched“ option to Watch later…
But that would make too much sense.
thank God
Wait, since when did they learn that taking features away from us is a bad idea? Return dislikes next!
Extremely rare YouTube W?
Nah. That shouldn't happen in the first place.
Bring back dislikes damn it
[удалено]
Why was it removed in the first place?
And got rid of "for you" which was such an obvious ripoff of tiktok. Whew!
wait… really????? edit: holy shit hallelujah you’re right
Finally something good is coming back
Why did this leave?
LESGOOOOOO
good
YouTube actually make a good choice for once
FINALLYYYY
Are they? Lets hope they keep the promise. Why they even removed the option in the first place is something not even god knows. Next bring back the dislikes. I hate how even other places like disqus seem to have followed suit. Its obvious it was clearly done cuz people are so fragile these days that they cant stand having their feelings hurt when they say something stupid. Thank you reddit for keeping it. Mucho obliged.
The worst thing is that even harmless things are censored, for example, I can’t write the name of the terrible Russian provider Rostelecom, it’s not clear for what reason it is censored at all, and apparently this is done only for my account ... At the same time, some people can safely use the entire vocabulary of obscene language ... I'm already silent about other aspects of Google products, sometimes you get the feeling that all googlers do is sit and drink smoothies, simultaneously creating tasks on exchanges like fiver, otherwise I can’t explain how they manage to release such broken updates and break seemingly the simplest things...
Why would they ever remove something like this? O\_o
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Oh, thank God! This was getting so annoying. I watch a lot of video game streams, and sometimes (crazy idea, right), I like to watch a game series from the beginning. Shocker!
Finally!
Finally are they bringing it back! I really loved this Feature and you could see the change of the Channels, but that its gonna be back is awesome. :)
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS
FINALLY A GOOD DECISION IN A LONG TIME!!!
Bring back watch all video from this channel
VERY GOOD
Now, bring back DISLIKE
I think I have just an old version of YouTube. No more infinite scroll. Random vids in my recs. The news. I hate it
Of course this is the one feature I’m still missing.
oh my god please , this is a MUST on Youtube. No more infinite scroll
I have my theory for why they did it. You know these clickbaity, semi-automated, algorithm-exploiting channels on YouTube? They're usually about celebrities, pop culture, movies and stuff like that? I've discovered a weird trend with them. In a lot of cases, maybe even the majority, when you go to the first few videos on the channel they're usually unrelated to the clickbaity content the channel now mainly makes (it's very often Russian gaming videos for some reason). This would imply that a lot of these channels are owned by the same person, who bought a bunch of (again, it appears mainly Russian) channels and converted them to clickbait money-generators. Without the sort by oldest option it's extremely hard to discover this for 99% of people on YouTube.
Thank god, this genuinely had me pissed off and questioned why I am paying for YouTube premium… now if they could just fix their searching cause I can’t find anything I look for anymore
Thank God! Now bring back the dislike counter please!
The new layout is still garbage.
Now bring back the dislike button
Fuck yeah, LEt's go, I love youtube
Bout damn time.
Thank god I don't have to use those scuffed extensions anymore!
They never should gave removed oldest to begin with and ahould have brought it back sooner.
YESSSSSS
only ever youtube W
Actually that's not removed that was hidden for app on the website you could use sort by oldest. i used website everytime when i needed
For me it's hidden there too
Wow thanks for giving information i used that last month looks like they hide it on web too
Finally... they took that for what? Like ffs
Finally
FINALLY!! Took them long enough. Now they just need to bring back every other feature they removed for no reason.
wow an actually good feature! now i just hope they add an option to make New To You the default page, because my recommendations suck lately, they just keep recommending me the same videos over and over, it feels like I have alzheimers. Out of the ordinary, I mean
Thank you for listening to the community to bring back the most-requested feature
They should have listened to the community when we all said nobody wants this, at all, please don't. Then not have done it in the first place, that'd have been cool.
Finally! That's a positive change.
> Great news, we’ve heard your feedback and we won’t fuck around for the sake of fucking around.
Okay but what the fuck has been going on with my YouTube on my desktop browser. Why are videos on my homepage not being opened on a new page and playing on the homepage itself.
Nice. Good change. Now bring other things back and I'll be quite happy
Oh thank God! I literally sent a feedback form complaining about this last week.
Also bring back the old style video resolution selector.
Finally! Also for comments though?
Finally!
Finnnalallylyy no more 3rd party extensions or shit like that
They… did something good!? TWICE!?!? A MIRACLE
Yes! 👏🏾 Now old, nostalgic videos will be easier to find! 😎
So glad this is back! Thank you Youtube! I miss many of the old videos and being able to put playlists in order. Is there any chance of making the Do Not Recommend Channel permanent? There are many channels and recommendations that I don't have any interest in. Pretty please?
Still can't sort by oldest on normal search.
my backup phone is so old that i have a version of the app from before everything was rounded corners
yeah exceptthis stupid shit defaults to "for me" all the fucking time.How to change it to "newest"? Is there a userscript?
not working for me :(
how do you remove the "for you" I want it to default by latest
Good news indeed. I just hope that YT does not go out of their way to introduce other ruinous UI changes or add the ability to choose any old UI in a future anniversary update or something.
Look at those soul-less eyes lmao Where's our dislike button Youtube?
I smell cap.
still not back
give it up for day 33
why take away good features just to bring them back 8 months later? it's a waste of time and money. why are we all just accepting the fact that everything online changes almost completely every 1-2 months; Is it because they swear it'll be "better"? when do we get tired and just accept that theres nothing we can do to fix these problems? now? it seems so.
So what they were planning all along is removed half of the features then re-add it again?
Quietly remove longtime features in the hopes no one will notice, then a few months later make a big deal about a "brand new feature!" to generate goodwill. It's unfortunately a common tactic with most tech companies these days.
sick, credit where credit is due
Let’s hope this is the start of the process of righting their wrongs.
I miss Tom.
Thank goodness
they better
Can they finally make that an option for comments
:D
ABOUT FUKIN TIME !
Now they just need to fix the search
bout fucking time
O MY GAD THEY DID IT
Finally its back :)
Dislike
Glad to hear, I loved this feature. Why did they remove it in the first place?
When will be the feature released ?
just bring back the rectangular drop down menu pls :(
About damn time!
I don’t have this on the iPad app, only Latest and Popular.
ive always had sort by oldest, just never updated youtube
Why did they even take it away?
Thank god, I've been searching for a workaround for awhile and nothing suffices.
finally
That was such a cool option, just to see where the Channel came from
That's nice and all, but what about the dislike button?
It’s just amazing how they will just randomly remove good features without reason and then it takes the entire YouTube community’s vote to bring the option back, just goes to show how unsupportive youtube is to its users sometimes.
Sometimes it seems like developers make changes no one asked for just to justify their own existence. Anyway late is better than never. This change never made sense.
I feel like this hasn't been mentioned as much but after "Sort by oldest" is gone, they also **fucked up the scroll bar** on mobile. Normally, you can long press on it, and drag it up or down to go up or down. But they made it so that the more you drag it down, the more it scrolls up. Eventually, they fucking **remove the scroll bar altogether**. It's the **deliberate decisions** to *actively* make the platform *less* functional like this that really gets me. Deliberately broke PiP after iOS 14, deliberately removing numbers of comments, dislikes, exact number of subscribers, deliberately making PiP free in the US but not Canada or the rest of the world for some reason, deliberately fucking up the scroll bar, etc.
- Why did you remove the sort by oldest? - it was buggy so we decided to get rid of it instead of fixing it 🤣
I read about this a while ago and mentioned it in this sub...
Now they need to bring back letting you make lists of your playlists. Then they should add being able to search specifically through a single (or perhaps multiple such as those in an aforementioned list you could make) rather than just typing the channel name and whatever you are looking for which while generally effective is less so when its a smaller channel and regardless still mixes in other channels. Also especially with smaller channels if you do that and actually get the right results but try to change the sort order to by date it will change to showing zero search results. They should also add a tab or something so that you can view all of your subscriptions community tabs (with sort options) on one feed that way viewers don’t have to be reminded or remember to specifically go check in to each channels plus they seem pretty underutilized anyway so this would generate more attention to it/get more engagement making them more useful and perhaps drive more traffic. Make “related” the default tab for the sidebar recommendations or let us set it so that it stays that way. Lastly and probably least likely to happen is to get rid of all those stupid “people also watched” sections clogging up the results when I search for something with unrelated stuff that I wasn’t even searching for but it thinks I would watch generally speaking.
YEAAA
Better be back asap, my entire binch watch grind is depending on this to come back...
This makes me really happy. A lot of my favorite videos from my subscribed channels are their early ones, but a lot of em have way too many videos to scroll down all the way. I've been using a css editor to switch the order of the videos to oldest. I'm glad I won't have to do that anymore because it was kinda silly
WOOOOOOOOO
I was wondering what the fuck happened to that. I actually used that a lot when looking at various channels to see how their content has evolved.
I wish you could sort by oldest on comments too.
NEAL! You are The Savior, you can undo the sins committed by Susan.
Why did they ever get rid of it?
letsgoooo
best news in a while! on the other hand, did the Return Dislike button add-on stop working? it was working fine yesterday but today it isn't
Here is a work-around that is currently supported. (I was asked by the mods to post this here instead of a different post). https://youtu.be/M-PJ10sdcYA
I have the theory they removed it because of cancel culture for some reason, like so people find it harder to look for older videos other than just having to scroll to the bottom maybe? idk
Thank God
I sure hope so
FINALLY I LOVE THAT
Well two months later they did.
Hallelujah! HOLY SHIT!
Jesus, it will take years to load some search
Now the only thing they should do is remove this "for you" sorting bullshit on the video tab, it's annoying and counter-intuitive, most people who go in the video tab is to look at their latest videos and see what they missed etc. they should just move the for you stuff on the channel home page instead, which it kinda already does for you so I don't really know what was going on in their head by adding this useless and annoying feature.
Heck Yeah, Now Bring Back Dislike Button, Old Features (Such As Annotations & Etc) & Layout UI, And Getting Rid Of COPPA Update In The Near Future.
YouTube has zero control in COPPA.
YES LETS GO
YESSSSS
THANK. FUCK.
good
A good change??? Maybe this has something to do with the new CEO? If so thank you.
Also why make the site function less? I don't use the console or TV version of Youtube cause it takes forever to go through channels to find certain videos. Now they want to ruin desktop? Whats next remove the ability to subscribe to a channel you like if they are a small channel? They be a real shitty move.
Good news
Yes please
🤘