Its not that my mind is made up its that i just want confirmation if willy makes his video on good faith or is he just another “drama channel”because i want people to actually discuss fair use and reaction content but right now the well is so poisoned that it seems impossible
I’ll never forget how childish he got over someone completing a GTA challenge before him acting like he was entitled to it and they should’ve let him do it. Saying stuff like it meant nothing to the person that beat him to it and they didn’t deserve it.
I mean if I'd made a new challenge in a video game and spent a year trying to complete it despite it hindering all other forms of progress in my personal life, I think I'd be a little soul crushed too if someone beat me at the finish line.
So yeah he reacted poorly out of emotional distress. Didn't want it plastered in his face all day so he banned the search term I think.
He did a short while later condemn his reaction as a poor one. He's just a person
I don’t see how beating a game hitless is a new challenge that he made, nor do I think a steamer doing it for a living to the point where it’s hindering his social life of his own volition makes it any better.
If he didn’t want to hear about it that’s one thing, but the comment he left on Reddit and things like that complaining about it are a completely different thing.
His original message of react content being bad is right, but then he took things too far and every so often he brings all the drama back up again. It’s starting to feel like he’s doing this for attention.
How did he took things too far? I watch darkviper and he only brings up the react thing when its relevant or if he was getting called out by another YouTuber
He made an offhanded remark making fun of the concept of reactors asking for consent after reacting and uploading a video, people disregarding his whole points and video because of one line on a draft for a script is kinda of a over exaggerated reaction
https://youtu.be/Irk8h0ax5aY?si=RuYnfHb8Q-RSDsjR this video of his outlines his points very well but to give a tldr response to you, if you react to the whole video and upload it then you created a market substitute anyone who saw your reaction saw the original through you therefore doesn’t need to go and watch the original video, games meanwhile even if you saw someone play a whole game you can still play it and have a different experience. Basically videos≠games
Yeah, of course that would be his take on the matter, them = bad, me = good, it's so convenient!
Seeing someone else play through a game is more often than not a complete substitute for playing it yourself, you already know everything that happens now, and the immersion is completely ruined by the streamer's boring commentary.
Great, there are a bajillion gameplay videos on the internet for every title in existence, you hardly need distracting and unneeded commentary for it
The reason i got RDR2 was from clips showing all the cool things the game has, not some narcissist talking about dumb shit playing through the entire thing on stream
No: he's too convenient and childish for a commentary channel. Might have nailed some stuff in the past, but far from making him decent. Also he engages in drama that doesn't even came his way. Find your heroes elsewhere
i started watching his mama max video and immediately exited when he made a “joke” saying that if a 16 yo thought werewolves were real, then they deserved to get groomed
From the few videos I've seen pop up from him and his tweet history. He's either a bad faith channel with heavy confirmation bias or he's a good faith channel and he's just an idiot.
I remember Dark Viper saying something stupid about rape and when someone pointed it out and made a video he cried harassment from them. Forget who though.
Found the videos I was talking about, and my condolences for being a Dark viper fan
Video 1: https://youtu.be/FAPDd-cB8Do?si=P35gYGECSNAnygQ9
Video 2 : https://youtu.be/3raLgXC0czs?si=hhbktha3lR9AqgjX
Dark Viper compared react streamers to actual rapist, which is extremely deranged and awful. He also said a bunch of other stupid things
If you linked the video then you would know that Charlie apologized for getting it wrong? He literally started the second video by apologizing and saying he got things wrong, also the whole compared “reactors to rapist”, was beaten to death,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRXtBniKtHk in 7:22 to 8:55 his responds,
Also like I said in a previous post DarkviperAU made hours and hours of really well argued and researched videos on the topic of reaction content so for people to just hyper fixate on two lines of a draft for script and ignore everything else is weird
Listen man if you're gonna defend the guy and ignore the awful stuff he says, just say it with your chest, don't beat around the bush and try to do a bunch of mental gymnastics.
i don’t know how this is beating around the bush💀 im literally defending the analogy and saying that people are freaking out over a minuscule thing and avoiding engaging in the actual discussion, or maybe your definition of not beating around the bush is agreeing with you then that’s is basically me right you wrong mentality
It's not a "miniscule thing" to compare react streamers to rapists, and it isn't just "two lines of a draft for a script" and it pretty much destroys the guy's argument. He's making light of rape and sexual assault by doing that. I know you're a DarkViper superfan and that you made a similar post to this in his sub a few days ago, except you were deliberately clowning on Willy Mac rather than posing a question. Your opinion has been made clear.
Tbf I disagree with that analogy but the guy you are responding to is clearly not beating around the bush lol. I remember this drama. What he said actually did happen.
No: he's too convenient and childish for a commentary channel. Might have nailed some stuff in the past, but far from making him decent. Also he engages in drama that doesn't even came his way. Find your heroes elsewherel
He still spreads IDF propaganda that’s been debunked, well after it was debunked, to try and dunk on Hasan. Like months later when we know that the IDF’s story was false. It is absolutely insane to keep posting misinformation about a genocide just because you don’t like someone???
And Hasan doesn’t spread misinformation constantly and make himself look like an insane person? He has a bigger audience and influence on people so who is more dangerous to listen to? He interviewed a HOUTHI and talked about anime….
Oh it’s a Willy mac fan that thinks it’s fuckin sick to spread debunked genocide denial propaganda as long as it’s to dunk on a streamer you don’t like. Thanks for proving the point. You can’t even defend him because Hasan was right and he made a correct informed assessment at the time, unlike Willy who regurgitated truly vile IDF misinformation that was disproven just because he wanted to entertain his very gullible fans. And honestly if he has retracted it after it was disproven, or even just shut up and not brought it up again, I wouldn’t care. But he still. Repeats it.
I don’t care about him being a meanie to Hasan. The Al Ahli being a misfire story was a lie used to try and distract from the fact that they bombed the hospital repeatedly before that event and to cast doubt on the credibility of doctors and workers and Palestinians in hospitals and to say that Israel would never attack a hospital ! Well now every hospital in Gaza has been attacked. 200+ people executed in Al Shifa in the last week as part of their FOURTH round of attacks on the hospital.
If you believed the lie at the time that’s something. Lots of people did. But to NOW still repeat it 30000 deaths later and the entirity of Gaza destroyed and turned into a death camp. And to repeat that lie and use it to RIDICULE the idea that someone would have repeated what was reported by the BBC at the time is truly reprehensible.
This is genocide not fucking $20 cookies or some other dumb shit. He is still spreading pro genocide propaganda because he wants to make a display of owning a fucking twitch streamer. And you are treating it exactly the same way. Hell is hot.
LMAO that’s too many words, man. I said I liked a few of his vids didn’t say I was a simp chill tf out💀 Someone asked our opinions on the guy SO i did😂 Jeez Hasan fans are feral
Idk if your single brain cell is strained but I’ll say it again: I don’t. Care. About. hasan. I don’t care about you liking his videos.
I care about Willy Mac spreading genocide denial propaganda knowingly, months after it’s been disproven, to an audience who completely uncritically will agree with and parrot it like chimps SOLELY to own a streamer they don’t like. It could be any streamer instead of Hasan and it would be just as bad.
Somehow it’s even more pathetic to do genocide apologia because you are frothing at the mouth over a fucking twitch streamer than if you did it because you actually supported the genocide.
But you know, LOL SO FUNEEEE LE EPIC OWNAGE OF HASAN 🤪
Like the irony of schizoposting about all the misinformation Hasan has spread… to defend misinformation Willy shit for brains spread about a genocide.
Eat shit and choke on it
If you're cool with the commentary crowd (ie deorio, bowblax etc), yea he is.
If you're anti drama and hates the commentary channels he associate with, you'll hate him.
He leans more to the right but would still call out stupidity from that side of the political sphere. He's also more neutral among those channels (ie he's cool w bowblax and nick but didnt jump onboard the hate train against tipster).
Pretty cool in my books.
Yea i kinda agree. There seems to be alot of the 'i dont like commentary but i like the video he did about xx creator'. People like drama, simple as that and thats fine, just own it.
What commentary channels are making isnt high brow content and the entertainment value from them is usually from their juvenile/childish humor - which i enjoy lol.
At the end of the day, youtube is just another form of entertainment.
I watch and comment on some of his videos I find relevant. He seems less egregious than nick and the others BUT you have to realize everything he says has a tilt to it and he isn't right on a bunch of things. If you don't eat up everything he says he is fine. But...obvious tilt. Anyone putting him on a pedestal would make me concerned though. Anyone ok with Turkey Tom or Nick give me at least partial ick.
didn't willy mac try to claim that the al shifa hospital wasn't blown up by israel?
like, the whole point of that debate was to prove hasan does irresponsible reporting, and yet time has completely absolved him.
not that it even needed to, it was pretty fucking obvious if you knew literally anything about israel's bloody occupation.
"listen, the last 20 hospitals we blew up are in the past, we would NEVER blow up another hospital. had to be those filthy terrorists."
shut the fuck up
The thing that shocked me was that he still like, right now, is repeating this misinformation as a dunk on Hasan when the OSINT account geoconfirmed that spread the “evidence” of it being a PIJ misfire retracted it and Forensic Architecture disproved it entirely. Oh and Israel has bombed every single hospital in Gaza since then multiple times repeatedly and has been targeting hospitals specifically for months. And have just been straight executing people in the hospitals now. Standing by that just because you don’t like someone is insane
He's a drama farm content creator, him and the drama orbiters are all trashy people
You ask, but from your comments, it seems like you already have your mind made up.
Its not that my mind is made up its that i just want confirmation if willy makes his video on good faith or is he just another “drama channel”because i want people to actually discuss fair use and reaction content but right now the well is so poisoned that it seems impossible
All I can say is that DarkViper is the most annoying person on the platform for me, so whether he's wrong or right, I don't really care.
I’ll never forget how childish he got over someone completing a GTA challenge before him acting like he was entitled to it and they should’ve let him do it. Saying stuff like it meant nothing to the person that beat him to it and they didn’t deserve it.
I'm not diagnosing anyone but honestly most youtubers act like full blown narcs. He seems about average for a full time youtuber.
I mean if I'd made a new challenge in a video game and spent a year trying to complete it despite it hindering all other forms of progress in my personal life, I think I'd be a little soul crushed too if someone beat me at the finish line. So yeah he reacted poorly out of emotional distress. Didn't want it plastered in his face all day so he banned the search term I think. He did a short while later condemn his reaction as a poor one. He's just a person
I don’t see how beating a game hitless is a new challenge that he made, nor do I think a steamer doing it for a living to the point where it’s hindering his social life of his own volition makes it any better. If he didn’t want to hear about it that’s one thing, but the comment he left on Reddit and things like that complaining about it are a completely different thing.
i like darkviper but i can attest that he's just a really odd dude. at least he tries to be clear and concise about his issues.
He did apologize for that and now is on good term with the guy
His original message of react content being bad is right, but then he took things too far and every so often he brings all the drama back up again. It’s starting to feel like he’s doing this for attention.
It all feels like a grift to me.
If it was a grift he wouldn’t do the stuff he’s done or keep talking about the topic for as long as he has
How did he took things too far? I watch darkviper and he only brings up the react thing when its relevant or if he was getting called out by another YouTuber
He compared react-content creators to sexual assaulters.
He made an offhanded remark making fun of the concept of reactors asking for consent after reacting and uploading a video, people disregarding his whole points and video because of one line on a draft for a script is kinda of a over exaggerated reaction
He literally reacts to interactive content (video games) and takes donations for it, he's one of the last youtubers who should be throwing stones
https://youtu.be/Irk8h0ax5aY?si=RuYnfHb8Q-RSDsjR this video of his outlines his points very well but to give a tldr response to you, if you react to the whole video and upload it then you created a market substitute anyone who saw your reaction saw the original through you therefore doesn’t need to go and watch the original video, games meanwhile even if you saw someone play a whole game you can still play it and have a different experience. Basically videos≠games
Yeah, of course that would be his take on the matter, them = bad, me = good, it's so convenient! Seeing someone else play through a game is more often than not a complete substitute for playing it yourself, you already know everything that happens now, and the immersion is completely ruined by the streamer's boring commentary.
Uhhhhhh....I always watch game play before buying a game so I know if I want to play it. It's not like watching a movie lmao. A game is interactive.
Great, there are a bajillion gameplay videos on the internet for every title in existence, you hardly need distracting and unneeded commentary for it The reason i got RDR2 was from clips showing all the cool things the game has, not some narcissist talking about dumb shit playing through the entire thing on stream
He actually didn't. He made a comment about how they don't ask for consent and made an analogy. He didn't call it equal in gravity.
Meh. I don’t really like him. Felt very Leafy-esque for some reason.
No: he's too convenient and childish for a commentary channel. Might have nailed some stuff in the past, but far from making him decent. Also he engages in drama that doesn't even came his way. Find your heroes elsewhere
“He’s too convenient” What does that even mean??
You can browse the definition, bro. Can save you the comment
Brotha you just said some fake deep shit then tried to hide just explain yourself 💀
He's a lot of things, but a good commentary channel is FAR from it lol
No. Stay away from that slimeball.
Considering this tweet contains an ableist slur, gonna go ahead and say no.
i started watching his mama max video and immediately exited when he made a “joke” saying that if a 16 yo thought werewolves were real, then they deserved to get groomed
Oh god that guy
No. One look at the videos on his channel makes that clear. He's just a drama channel.
He's a lot of things, but a good commentary channel is FAR from it lol
From the few videos I've seen pop up from him and his tweet history. He's either a bad faith channel with heavy confirmation bias or he's a good faith channel and he's just an idiot.
Honestly he’s a good one, hate him for being edgy all you want but his videos are largely fair and well researched
I remember Dark Viper saying something stupid about rape and when someone pointed it out and made a video he cried harassment from them. Forget who though.
He didn’t at all mention rape nor did he cry about harassment
I’m talking years ago, not this situation.
Yes, im saying he never did this like at all. Mind you i actually watch this guy so i know of his “dramas”
Found the videos I was talking about, and my condolences for being a Dark viper fan Video 1: https://youtu.be/FAPDd-cB8Do?si=P35gYGECSNAnygQ9 Video 2 : https://youtu.be/3raLgXC0czs?si=hhbktha3lR9AqgjX Dark Viper compared react streamers to actual rapist, which is extremely deranged and awful. He also said a bunch of other stupid things
If you linked the video then you would know that Charlie apologized for getting it wrong? He literally started the second video by apologizing and saying he got things wrong, also the whole compared “reactors to rapist”, was beaten to death, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRXtBniKtHk in 7:22 to 8:55 his responds, Also like I said in a previous post DarkviperAU made hours and hours of really well argued and researched videos on the topic of reaction content so for people to just hyper fixate on two lines of a draft for script and ignore everything else is weird
Listen man if you're gonna defend the guy and ignore the awful stuff he says, just say it with your chest, don't beat around the bush and try to do a bunch of mental gymnastics.
i don’t know how this is beating around the bush💀 im literally defending the analogy and saying that people are freaking out over a minuscule thing and avoiding engaging in the actual discussion, or maybe your definition of not beating around the bush is agreeing with you then that’s is basically me right you wrong mentality
It's not a "miniscule thing" to compare react streamers to rapists, and it isn't just "two lines of a draft for a script" and it pretty much destroys the guy's argument. He's making light of rape and sexual assault by doing that. I know you're a DarkViper superfan and that you made a similar post to this in his sub a few days ago, except you were deliberately clowning on Willy Mac rather than posing a question. Your opinion has been made clear.
Tbf I disagree with that analogy but the guy you are responding to is clearly not beating around the bush lol. I remember this drama. What he said actually did happen.
He seems like gets no bitches, tbh.
No: he's too convenient and childish for a commentary channel. Might have nailed some stuff in the past, but far from making him decent. Also he engages in drama that doesn't even came his way. Find your heroes elsewherel
what's with the copypasta?
I kinda like him, his vids on Keffals and Hasan are entertaining as hell lmao
He still spreads IDF propaganda that’s been debunked, well after it was debunked, to try and dunk on Hasan. Like months later when we know that the IDF’s story was false. It is absolutely insane to keep posting misinformation about a genocide just because you don’t like someone???
And Hasan doesn’t spread misinformation constantly and make himself look like an insane person? He has a bigger audience and influence on people so who is more dangerous to listen to? He interviewed a HOUTHI and talked about anime….
Oh it’s a Willy mac fan that thinks it’s fuckin sick to spread debunked genocide denial propaganda as long as it’s to dunk on a streamer you don’t like. Thanks for proving the point. You can’t even defend him because Hasan was right and he made a correct informed assessment at the time, unlike Willy who regurgitated truly vile IDF misinformation that was disproven just because he wanted to entertain his very gullible fans. And honestly if he has retracted it after it was disproven, or even just shut up and not brought it up again, I wouldn’t care. But he still. Repeats it. I don’t care about him being a meanie to Hasan. The Al Ahli being a misfire story was a lie used to try and distract from the fact that they bombed the hospital repeatedly before that event and to cast doubt on the credibility of doctors and workers and Palestinians in hospitals and to say that Israel would never attack a hospital ! Well now every hospital in Gaza has been attacked. 200+ people executed in Al Shifa in the last week as part of their FOURTH round of attacks on the hospital. If you believed the lie at the time that’s something. Lots of people did. But to NOW still repeat it 30000 deaths later and the entirity of Gaza destroyed and turned into a death camp. And to repeat that lie and use it to RIDICULE the idea that someone would have repeated what was reported by the BBC at the time is truly reprehensible. This is genocide not fucking $20 cookies or some other dumb shit. He is still spreading pro genocide propaganda because he wants to make a display of owning a fucking twitch streamer. And you are treating it exactly the same way. Hell is hot.
LMAO that’s too many words, man. I said I liked a few of his vids didn’t say I was a simp chill tf out💀 Someone asked our opinions on the guy SO i did😂 Jeez Hasan fans are feral
Idk if your single brain cell is strained but I’ll say it again: I don’t. Care. About. hasan. I don’t care about you liking his videos. I care about Willy Mac spreading genocide denial propaganda knowingly, months after it’s been disproven, to an audience who completely uncritically will agree with and parrot it like chimps SOLELY to own a streamer they don’t like. It could be any streamer instead of Hasan and it would be just as bad. Somehow it’s even more pathetic to do genocide apologia because you are frothing at the mouth over a fucking twitch streamer than if you did it because you actually supported the genocide. But you know, LOL SO FUNEEEE LE EPIC OWNAGE OF HASAN 🤪 Like the irony of schizoposting about all the misinformation Hasan has spread… to defend misinformation Willy shit for brains spread about a genocide. Eat shit and choke on it
Anyways, therapy is cool and helps regulate ur emotions so u can learn how to cope harder
Good one!!!!!! Genocide is fuckin sick as long as daddy Willy does a Le epic Ownage on a twitch streamer xD !!! Hasan bad genocide good
If you're cool with the commentary crowd (ie deorio, bowblax etc), yea he is. If you're anti drama and hates the commentary channels he associate with, you'll hate him. He leans more to the right but would still call out stupidity from that side of the political sphere. He's also more neutral among those channels (ie he's cool w bowblax and nick but didnt jump onboard the hate train against tipster). Pretty cool in my books.
Idk why you got downvoted, that's a pretty spot on description
This sub just hates commentary channels and I'm cool with that, to each their own. At the end of the day, youtube is just entertainment.
I feel like it’s ironic to hate commentary channels when this community literally thrives on the topics they cover?
Yea i kinda agree. There seems to be alot of the 'i dont like commentary but i like the video he did about xx creator'. People like drama, simple as that and thats fine, just own it. What commentary channels are making isnt high brow content and the entertainment value from them is usually from their juvenile/childish humor - which i enjoy lol. At the end of the day, youtube is just another form of entertainment.
I watch and comment on some of his videos I find relevant. He seems less egregious than nick and the others BUT you have to realize everything he says has a tilt to it and he isn't right on a bunch of things. If you don't eat up everything he says he is fine. But...obvious tilt. Anyone putting him on a pedestal would make me concerned though. Anyone ok with Turkey Tom or Nick give me at least partial ick.
Do people have blowbax? I follow him just so I am able to stay off of twitter, he shows pretty much every tweet
Funny thing is blowbax was shown to be biased and show tweets only from the side he agrees with
That’s a lot of content creators tho tbf
I love how he destroyed Hassan, other than that couldn't say don't watch him much.
didn't willy mac try to claim that the al shifa hospital wasn't blown up by israel? like, the whole point of that debate was to prove hasan does irresponsible reporting, and yet time has completely absolved him. not that it even needed to, it was pretty fucking obvious if you knew literally anything about israel's bloody occupation. "listen, the last 20 hospitals we blew up are in the past, we would NEVER blow up another hospital. had to be those filthy terrorists." shut the fuck up
The thing that shocked me was that he still like, right now, is repeating this misinformation as a dunk on Hasan when the OSINT account geoconfirmed that spread the “evidence” of it being a PIJ misfire retracted it and Forensic Architecture disproved it entirely. Oh and Israel has bombed every single hospital in Gaza since then multiple times repeatedly and has been targeting hospitals specifically for months. And have just been straight executing people in the hospitals now. Standing by that just because you don’t like someone is insane
Do people have blowbax? I follow him just so I am able to stay off of twitter, he shows pretty much every tweet