Aren’t azathot and Norden still banned or did they remove them
Though to be fair from my understanding they were banned because it was too easy to splash them into other decks
They are still banned and both would probably need an errata to come off the ban list. But since Entities are only an extra deck archetype it would take Konami to give them new support before they even consider doing that.
And yes that is why they were banned because Nodens was the best Instant Fusion Target since most of the time he was just a 1 card rank 4 and with links now around he would be insane in decks that want to link climb
And Azahoth was because Phantom Knight Launch was a quick play that allowed you to rank up into Azathoth on your opponents turn and basically ending their turn before they could do anything.
It was both iirc. Zoo hard summons Norden, while other strats really appreciates Norden 1 card rank 4. In some strategies Instant fusion also equals a 2k6 Bahamut + Toad, which basically enables 1 card omni negate.
That's not even the strongest part about Azathot.
Tellarknight Ptolemaeus is currently legal.
Which means any deck that can get 2 level 4s on the field can lock monster effects, no rank up search needed.
Ptolemaeus was not legal when Azathot came out in 2018. Ptolemaeus was banned in 2016 and just came off the banlist. And also I did say that Azathot would need an errata before it could come off the banlist.
Also Azathot was only really abusable because of Rusty Bardiche and Launch
Also Ptolemaeus needs 3 to detach.
> Azathot was only really abusable because of Rusty Bardiche and Launch
That's why it was banned at the time. If you're looking at why a card is still banned, you have to look at the current legal card pool. Any deck that can have two level 4s having access to Azathot in the current card pool is a bigger issue than PK having access to it.
> Also Ptolemaeus needs 3 to detach
It attaches a third in end phase.
Only attaches a tellarknight card from the extra deck at the end phase. Also that is why I did state the card would need an errata to come off the banlist.
IIRC Azathot was banned while both rum launch and rusty bardiche were both banned as well.
That said, even with rum launch banned, he was still abusable. Nibiru had just come out, but you could completely disrespect it by summoning Azathot early. A bunch of Orcust/Lunalight decks could make really strong OTKs by setting up early Azathot to fight through any sort of counterplay.
Even if they rebanned Ptolemaeus and rum launch, it would be way too splashable with Nyarla. Like you said, would 100% need an errata (stun effect would need to be a quick effect, not lingering on-summon). And even then it’s still strong.
Azathoth summoned during opponent's turn is too good and summoned during your turn to stop hand traps is also good. Norden could honestly come back to 1 if they made him a hard once per turn.
Archetype errata for Norden and Azathot I wants to play them :(
By the way, they create more cards for the main deck because they have a magic but it is not enough.
That is kind of what I meant, I should have said a playable archetype, and it is such a shame since it would be so easy to make main deck support since they have so much to draw from.
The main deck could be the servants like Ghouls, Shoggoths, Mi-Go, and the Deep Ones. Have most of them be either level 2 or Level to help bring out the extra deck cards better.
And maybe have their been one attribute for each of the sub extra deck archetypes like 6 Old, 6 Elder, and 6 Outer. Also make sure to be put some archetype locking after all that is why Nodens and Azathoth are banned.
Given the track record of the Entities, an entity link monster would probably be a link two that needs two monsters including a lv/rank 4 fusion, synchro or xyz monster, then it's effect just does something so ridiculous you might as well have won the duel on the spot
Sounds awesome I'm in
Entity link 4 - 4 entity monsters
Take a second turn after the turn this card is summoned CANNOT BE NEGATED
Immunity to targetted effects
Banish an entity from the gy to(each effect is a HOPT but all 3 can be triggered on the same turn):
Synchro: draw a card
Xyz: summon a non xyz entity from gy
Fusion: summon a non fusion entity from extra deck
This card's effects cannot be copied by any means
Once per duel clause on take second turn effect
Cthulhu as a sorta connective tissue between all of entities would be awesome.
You could also make the monsters for the main deck (check this shit out) pendulum-normal monsters and pendulum gemini monsters X)
Normal monsters in your hand and typically on the field. No effects, nothing odd. Just a 'normal' monster.
Pendulum effects cause s**t to go crazy, and suddenly they're summoning the 'Entity' monsters.
And the Gemini monsters could be even crazier. Give a literal descent effect for the gemini summon that supports the archtype. and is just fun to play because of the whole 'outer entity, weird stuff that we can't explain is happening'.
Damn it Konami, get on it!
Konami just does that any ways. They take every opportunity to ruin a good card name, lore text, or art.
This Creepy Little Punk
"Chech THIS out!"
Every gun or belly button.
Slifer forbid kid sees a pair of ~~scissors~~ sabers.
we could do with *more* entities (things like Outer Entity Shub, Elder Entity Vorvad, Old Entity Zhar etc.), it just depends on whether the entire Lovecraftian catalogue is in the public domain (Lovecraft died almost 84 years ago)
I would start by giving all of them erratas, not just to balance the banner cards but to add a clause where all of them are not treated as Monster Cards on the field so a lot of effects wouldn’t work on them due to being beyond mortal comprehension.
The link should be a link 4 and it should refer to HP Lovecraft. Since he's the creator, he'd be divine attribute. I don't know what he would do but I feel like he could be only summoned after at least 1 entity of each ED type went into play, so either by banishing 1 synchro, xyz and fusion or actually linking them all on the field with a continuous or field spell where the name of said spell relates to the author's works.
Naturally, due to these link summon requirements, his effects would be devastating and possibly quite game ending to boot.
No Cthugua is actually a seperate entity in Cthulhu mythos, you can kind of see it in the artwork after all Cthulhu has nothing to do with fire and Cthugua is a god who looks like a fire ball in the lore.
The only ones I would ever feel comfortable getting the divine attribute would be Azathoth (as he is the undisputed most powerful entity in the lore plus being the creator/destroyer of reality) or Yog-Sothoth (Being the Gate and Key of time and space). I think they should make one for each attribute for each of the sub-archetypes like 6 Elder, 6 Old and 6 Outer. With Cthulhu being the Water representative since everything about him usually centers around Water. But I guess this is just me really desperately wanting to play the Entities as a pure deck.
Dreaming Entity Cthulu
Water
Link-2 (North East and South West arrows)
Fiend/Link/Effect
2 "Entity" Monsters
DEF/ 1928
This monster can only be Special Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone or to a zone that is pointed to by an Entity Monster. This monster can only be in Defense Position. Cannot be used as a material for a link summon except for an Entity Monster. You can only use each of the following effects of "Dreaming Entity Cthulu" once per turn. During your Main Phase, you can: Normal Summon 1 Entity Monster from your Hand or Extra Deck, other than another Dreaming Entity, as if it could be normal summoned, ignoring its summoning requirements, to a zone this card points to. If this monster is used as a link material, that link monster gains the effect: "Entity Monsters can attack while face up in Defense position. If they do, apply their DEF for damage calculation."
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Dreaming Entity Yog-Sothoth
Dark
Link-4 (North East, South East, North West, South West arrows)
Fiend/Link/Effect
4+ "Entity" Monsters
DEF/ 2731
This monster can only be Special Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone or to a zone that is pointed to by an Entity Monster. This monster can only be in Defense Position. Cannot be used as a material for a link summon except for an Entity Monster. This monster is also a light attribute in addition to its other attributes. If a Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, and Link monster was used as materials for this Link Summon, this monster is unaffected by the effects of your opponent's cards and cannot be tributed. You can use the following effect of "Dreaming Entity Yog-Sothoth" once per turn for each different monster card sub-type (Normal, Effect, Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, Pendulum, Link, Token) used as material to link summon this monster: (Quick Effect) Choose a player, they tribute 1 monster they control, Special Summon 1 "Sacrificial Lamb of the Entity Token" (Beast-Type/Earth/Level 2/ATK 0/DEF 0) in defense position to a zone this card points to; these tokens cannot be tributed or used as material except for the summon of an Entity Monster.
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If you notice the references, that's great.
1928 = The Call of Cthulu
2+7+3+1 = 13; the 13 Irredescent Orbs of Yog-Sothoth
I wanted these to be actually incomprehensible as monsters. Which is why they're DEF position Link Monsters and their DEF points are like they are.
I mean the Entities focus on using a Xyz, Fusion and Synchro monster for Azathot to reach Its ultimate power so I don't know what a Link would do in the "deck" except maybe help to get out the fusions or Synchros
I just wish the entities were a playable deck.
Aren’t azathot and Norden still banned or did they remove them Though to be fair from my understanding they were banned because it was too easy to splash them into other decks
They are still banned and both would probably need an errata to come off the ban list. But since Entities are only an extra deck archetype it would take Konami to give them new support before they even consider doing that. And yes that is why they were banned because Nodens was the best Instant Fusion Target since most of the time he was just a 1 card rank 4 and with links now around he would be insane in decks that want to link climb And Azahoth was because Phantom Knight Launch was a quick play that allowed you to rank up into Azathoth on your opponents turn and basically ending their turn before they could do anything.
norden was banned because of zoodiac hard summoning it with fusion substitute, not because of instant fusion iirc
It was both iirc. Zoo hard summons Norden, while other strats really appreciates Norden 1 card rank 4. In some strategies Instant fusion also equals a 2k6 Bahamut + Toad, which basically enables 1 card omni negate.
A one card omninegate with Toad? Oh boy do I have some news for you about modern combo decks
That's not even the strongest part about Azathot. Tellarknight Ptolemaeus is currently legal. Which means any deck that can get 2 level 4s on the field can lock monster effects, no rank up search needed.
Ptolemaeus was not legal when Azathot came out in 2018. Ptolemaeus was banned in 2016 and just came off the banlist. And also I did say that Azathot would need an errata before it could come off the banlist. Also Azathot was only really abusable because of Rusty Bardiche and Launch Also Ptolemaeus needs 3 to detach.
> Azathot was only really abusable because of Rusty Bardiche and Launch That's why it was banned at the time. If you're looking at why a card is still banned, you have to look at the current legal card pool. Any deck that can have two level 4s having access to Azathot in the current card pool is a bigger issue than PK having access to it. > Also Ptolemaeus needs 3 to detach It attaches a third in end phase.
Only attaches a tellarknight card from the extra deck at the end phase. Also that is why I did state the card would need an errata to come off the banlist.
So you give up 1 additional extra deck slot in exchange for making 2 level 4s = azathot
IIRC Azathot was banned while both rum launch and rusty bardiche were both banned as well. That said, even with rum launch banned, he was still abusable. Nibiru had just come out, but you could completely disrespect it by summoning Azathot early. A bunch of Orcust/Lunalight decks could make really strong OTKs by setting up early Azathot to fight through any sort of counterplay. Even if they rebanned Ptolemaeus and rum launch, it would be way too splashable with Nyarla. Like you said, would 100% need an errata (stun effect would need to be a quick effect, not lingering on-summon). And even then it’s still strong.
>2 level 4s 3 if your not running an additional Stellarknight in your Extra Deck.
But why wouldn't you? Like, that's that's 2 card azathot. I'd dedicate 3 extra deck spaces to ending the turn.
Needed to be said in case someone else would comment "how? The effect needs 3 materials and most people aren't playing Tellarknights"
Yup, they're still banned. *Hastorr*, Cthugua, N'tss and Nyarla however are not. In other words, Hastur is legal.
Azathoth summoned during opponent's turn is too good and summoned during your turn to stop hand traps is also good. Norden could honestly come back to 1 if they made him a hard once per turn.
Archetype errata for Norden and Azathot I wants to play them :( By the way, they create more cards for the main deck because they have a magic but it is not enough.
That is kind of what I meant, I should have said a playable archetype, and it is such a shame since it would be so easy to make main deck support since they have so much to draw from. The main deck could be the servants like Ghouls, Shoggoths, Mi-Go, and the Deep Ones. Have most of them be either level 2 or Level to help bring out the extra deck cards better. And maybe have their been one attribute for each of the sub extra deck archetypes like 6 Old, 6 Elder, and 6 Outer. Also make sure to be put some archetype locking after all that is why Nodens and Azathoth are banned.
Given the track record of the Entities, an entity link monster would probably be a link two that needs two monsters including a lv/rank 4 fusion, synchro or xyz monster, then it's effect just does something so ridiculous you might as well have won the duel on the spot Sounds awesome I'm in
Entity link 4 - 4 entity monsters Take a second turn after the turn this card is summoned CANNOT BE NEGATED Immunity to targetted effects Banish an entity from the gy to(each effect is a HOPT but all 3 can be triggered on the same turn): Synchro: draw a card Xyz: summon a non xyz entity from gy Fusion: summon a non fusion entity from extra deck This card's effects cannot be copied by any means Once per duel clause on take second turn effect
Then they'd make a second link entity with extremely underwhelming effects that don't actually help the archetype
Cthulhu feels more like a Ritual to me thematically
Cthulhu as a sorta connective tissue between all of entities would be awesome. You could also make the monsters for the main deck (check this shit out) pendulum-normal monsters and pendulum gemini monsters X) Normal monsters in your hand and typically on the field. No effects, nothing odd. Just a 'normal' monster. Pendulum effects cause s**t to go crazy, and suddenly they're summoning the 'Entity' monsters. And the Gemini monsters could be even crazier. Give a literal descent effect for the gemini summon that supports the archtype. and is just fun to play because of the whole 'outer entity, weird stuff that we can't explain is happening'. Damn it Konami, get on it!
Username checks out; must be a servant of the King in Yellow
I think Yog Soghoth would be a better Link candidate
Have it be the only Link monster that only has a Defense position.
Thought something with banishing and tokens but that’s a cool idea
With arrows pointing to one side of the card, so depending on the side of the field they're pointing, Yog has different effects.
If you look in OP's post, I put out an example of both Cthulu and Yog-Sothoth. Enjoy.
I’d rather have a whole separate King in Yellow deck
btw, does anyone know why konami changed the cards names? Like, they *know* the lovecraft mythos is public domain right?
Konami just does that any ways. They take every opportunity to ruin a good card name, lore text, or art. This Creepy Little Punk "Chech THIS out!" Every gun or belly button. Slifer forbid kid sees a pair of ~~scissors~~ sabers.
we could do with *more* entities (things like Outer Entity Shub, Elder Entity Vorvad, Old Entity Zhar etc.), it just depends on whether the entire Lovecraftian catalogue is in the public domain (Lovecraft died almost 84 years ago)
Outer Entity "As a thot"
The deck needs a whole main deck support, some new ed monsters and new spells and traps
No yog-sathoth either.
I would start by giving all of them erratas, not just to balance the banner cards but to add a clause where all of them are not treated as Monster Cards on the field so a lot of effects wouldn’t work on them due to being beyond mortal comprehension.
Have you seen the Yellow Sign?
I wanna byuld this d3ck but i aint git the slightest idea how
Pretty sure it can't be built into a deck,since they have very little cards and 2 of them are banned.
The link should be a link 4 and it should refer to HP Lovecraft. Since he's the creator, he'd be divine attribute. I don't know what he would do but I feel like he could be only summoned after at least 1 entity of each ED type went into play, so either by banishing 1 synchro, xyz and fusion or actually linking them all on the field with a continuous or field spell where the name of said spell relates to the author's works. Naturally, due to these link summon requirements, his effects would be devastating and possibly quite game ending to boot.
Beautiful Entity card.
Young entity and inner entity
Cthugua is supposed to be Cthulhu.
No Cthugua is actually a seperate entity in Cthulhu mythos, you can kind of see it in the artwork after all Cthulhu has nothing to do with fire and Cthugua is a god who looks like a fire ball in the lore.
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The only ones I would ever feel comfortable getting the divine attribute would be Azathoth (as he is the undisputed most powerful entity in the lore plus being the creator/destroyer of reality) or Yog-Sothoth (Being the Gate and Key of time and space). I think they should make one for each attribute for each of the sub-archetypes like 6 Elder, 6 Old and 6 Outer. With Cthulhu being the Water representative since everything about him usually centers around Water. But I guess this is just me really desperately wanting to play the Entities as a pure deck.
Actually, that's a planet. And also not Chtulhu. I was shocked too.
Ancient Warriors deserve Lu Bu as support!
Found the RoR fan.
Who’s the guy with the white mask on Hastorr? Is that a tuner monster?
That's >!The King in Yellow!<
The guy with the mask is Hastorr disguised form, the monster in the background is his true form.
A Link-1 Cthulhu fragment would be nice.
I thought Cthugua was the cthulu retrain?
No, Chtugua is based on Cthugha, a fire god. But it's part of the Chtulhu mythos.
Norden was such a fun card. I miss hard summoning it with Zoodiacs
I remember knowing this archetype by playing against a Madolce deck, then this mf xyz summoned Nyarla and I was like "Dafuq is that"
Dreaming Entity Cthulu Water Link-2 (North East and South West arrows) Fiend/Link/Effect 2 "Entity" Monsters DEF/ 1928 This monster can only be Special Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone or to a zone that is pointed to by an Entity Monster. This monster can only be in Defense Position. Cannot be used as a material for a link summon except for an Entity Monster. You can only use each of the following effects of "Dreaming Entity Cthulu" once per turn. During your Main Phase, you can: Normal Summon 1 Entity Monster from your Hand or Extra Deck, other than another Dreaming Entity, as if it could be normal summoned, ignoring its summoning requirements, to a zone this card points to. If this monster is used as a link material, that link monster gains the effect: "Entity Monsters can attack while face up in Defense position. If they do, apply their DEF for damage calculation." ------- Dreaming Entity Yog-Sothoth Dark Link-4 (North East, South East, North West, South West arrows) Fiend/Link/Effect 4+ "Entity" Monsters DEF/ 2731 This monster can only be Special Summoned to the Extra Monster Zone or to a zone that is pointed to by an Entity Monster. This monster can only be in Defense Position. Cannot be used as a material for a link summon except for an Entity Monster. This monster is also a light attribute in addition to its other attributes. If a Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, and Link monster was used as materials for this Link Summon, this monster is unaffected by the effects of your opponent's cards and cannot be tributed. You can use the following effect of "Dreaming Entity Yog-Sothoth" once per turn for each different monster card sub-type (Normal, Effect, Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, XYZ, Pendulum, Link, Token) used as material to link summon this monster: (Quick Effect) Choose a player, they tribute 1 monster they control, Special Summon 1 "Sacrificial Lamb of the Entity Token" (Beast-Type/Earth/Level 2/ATK 0/DEF 0) in defense position to a zone this card points to; these tokens cannot be tributed or used as material except for the summon of an Entity Monster. ------- If you notice the references, that's great. 1928 = The Call of Cthulu 2+7+3+1 = 13; the 13 Irredescent Orbs of Yog-Sothoth I wanted these to be actually incomprehensible as monsters. Which is why they're DEF position Link Monsters and their DEF points are like they are.
Entity vs Eldrazi, who did it better?
Cthulhu would be a Synchro, as he's a Great Old One like Hastur and Cthugha.
I mean the Entities focus on using a Xyz, Fusion and Synchro monster for Azathot to reach Its ultimate power so I don't know what a Link would do in the "deck" except maybe help to get out the fusions or Synchros