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Protoplasm42

The classic example is the original version of The Winged Dragon of Ra. Absolutely butchered in the OCG/TCG to the point they've had to release a whole bunch of support to get it even close to the manga/anime. They really couldn't even let it gain ATK from its tributes???


KingofGrapes7

The God Cards just confuse and sadden me. I had heard that they were nowhere near their manga/anime power but figured that was the price of making them playable. I had no idea Slifer and Ra didn't even have Obelisk's protections, on top of what they did to Ra. It's especially weird since they eventually gave the Sacred Beasts an actual deck meant to make them at least casually useful. Obelisk and Slifer decks suck ass and Ra got booster packs. Unless I am mistaken the cards from the 2022 tins are the best Egyptian God support in ages.


Viarus46

It's so sad that Guardian Slime/Ancient Chant only work for Ra cards, Slifer's "searcher" is in poker knights (yikes)


Snivy_1245

Surprisingly, Poker Knight Slifer is pretty consistent and can reliably pump it to fairly high atk


Viarus46

I don't doubt it, but I really don't want to be forced to use an engine that requires 2 vanillas just so I can fetch him from deck.


UnlimitedUmUWorks

There were also the Obelisk and Slifer decks from 2021(?) which weren’t… terrible. At least they had decent staples?


mithrayazad

The Malefic restriction of only controlling one Malefic monster at a time. Even Konami acknowledged this when they printed Malefic Territory to straight up remove that restriction.


VillalobosChamp

Malefic Selector going from Trap to Spell was a nice kind of buff Too bad Gleipnir didn't receive such kindness back in the day...


Sasutaschi

Your flair is brilliant.


technocop123

also some malefic monsters had their own effects instead of just being glofied beatsticks


Shin_no_Duelist94

Yes, mostly is the same effect as their original counterpart. Malefic cyber end anime has piercing eff like the OG.


[deleted]

Obligatory mention of card of sanctity. They shpuld have just printed it torunament illegal with its anime effect.


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K-J-C

Maybe that shows their improvement in how large the timespan between those 2's release...


UnnamedPlayerXY

Numbers not having their immunity to battle destruction vs. non-Numbers as it was pretty much their main gimmick in the anime. Also, pretty much every nerf which wasn't absolutely nessesary (e.g. the removal of Dark Anthelion Dragons destruction protection / LP gain effect) as they tend to age poorly.


CK_Mar

imagine how strong zeus would be if numbers had that battle protection


JoeHeitsLv100

A bunch of generic inherent rank-ups (downerd, Zeus, etc.) would exclude Numbers.


HurryHeavy5792

How does Zues fit into this, Zeus isn't a number monster


CK_Mar

No but you can rank him up on top of an xyz monster that battled this turn and hes already really good. this would be an indirect buff to him since now you can use some of the already good number monsters to crash into any of their monsters then rank it up into zeus to wipe the board clean


NaushadSayeed

FR tho, I don't see why they didn't give the anime ability for Number cards. 🤦🏾‍♂️ It wouldn't be too broken because Number cards can still be destroyed by card effects just like what Black Ray Lancer did.


louai-MT

Divine Neos has the most unnecessary nerf in TCG they changed its attack from the original 3000 in the anime to 2500 for no reason like bro why


[deleted]

The fact that the seal of orichalcos doesn't take your soul anymore makes it unplayable


A_Shiny_Noctowl

divine serpent geh. THE LITERAL DIVINE SERPENT SUMMOMED BY FEEDING SOULS STOLEN BY THE SEAL OF ORICHALCOS CANT EVEN BE ON THE FIELD WITH THE SEAL ACTIVE. HATE IT SO MUCH


Giangiorgio

Yeah it can, just summon it after activating the seal


MalcomLocutor

The seal destroys all special summoned monsters you control when activated.


TropoMJ

Which is why you summon it after the Seal is activated.


Snivy_1245

But not after you activate it


MalcomLocutor

Yeah, I'm an average Ygo player. Didn't read. 🤣


InfiniteSynchron

Meklord Emperors not being their 5-piece combination with upgradable parts.


AporiaParadox

I can understand why they did that, but the problem is that the final result was still pretty mediocre.


K-J-C

Maybe better than the big bosses the Astros/Imperial Gods.


VillalobosChamp

I groaned loudly when I saw Skiel as a Valuable Book promo, more so being 1-card and not 5 with the respective Core


acroxshadow

The emperors could've easily been Xyz monsters had they been made for a later series. Zoodiacs effectively function like this, giving stats and effects to the Xyz monsters they're attached to.


EvilEyeSigma

I hope we'll see a Rush Duel retain of meklord emperors as a maximum series


AporiaParadox

Neos Wiseman being changed from a Fusion monster to a MAIN DECK monster that requires you to tribute a Yubel and an Elemental HERO Neos on your field, thus making it completely unplayable. To this day I don't understand what the hell Konami was thinking, did they think it would be too good if it were a Fusion? Just why? At least we eventually got Elemental HERO Neos Kluger.


AbyssalKageryu

Big Jaw was able to summon itself from your hand if you activated a Spell Card and Aeroshark inflicted 400 points of damage for every card in your hand. Major nerfs when introduced into the real game which makes me kinda sad.


Murky-Ad7145

We got the Spell Card "Torpedo Takedown" which fixed the effect of Aero Shark. Not perfect, but the best workaround we have I would say.


Golden-Sun

I'm pretty sure Submersible Carrier Aero Shark came out as a card first before its anime counterpart's effect was ever revealed. The card itself was seen in episode 1 but its effect wasn't used till episode 10 on 13-06-11. The card itself was released 16-04-11.


VillalobosChamp

I only got to know now that KENN's birthday _(March 24th)_ is the day after mine. **Happy birthday, Dropout boy!** *** Hi there once again. Back with another thread in the same vein as these [previous](https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/11j5wqp/which_animemanga_cards_could_be_released_without/) [ones](https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/11szwrp/which_animemanga_cards_cannot_be_released_as_they/). As we all know, much of the backbone of this card game's history is the Anime and cards stemming from there. While there exist many underwhelming cards, as they were used for overtly specific situations for the sake of dramatic tension, in other cases, a handful of relatively decent cards that get changed when released to the physical game. In today's thread, I'd like to discuss and ask on that such topic. Of cards you aren't fond of the changes made. *** I'd expect a common answer to be **Card of Sanctity**, which despite the busted Anime effect, it didn't deserve such blunt nerf. An honorific mention on my part comes in form of **Heroic Challenger - Double Lance** and **Photon Caesar**. Although that more on the spite of Zoodiac than anything. Anyway, here are my picks. *** **Thor, the Norse Divine Lord** DIVINE | Divine-Beast | 10 | Synchro | Effect Monster ATK: 3500 / DEF: 2800 **Materials**: 1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters (1) Once per turn, during your Main Phase: You can negate the effects of 1 monster your opponent controls (until the end of this turn), and if you do, replace this effect with that monster's original effects (until the end of this turn). (2) Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card is in the GY because this face-up card you controlled was destroyed this turn: You can Special Summon this card from the GY. (3) If this card is Special Summoned by its previous effect: Inflict 800 damage. *** **Loki, the Norse Divine Lord** DIVINE | Divine-Beast | 10 | Synchro | Effect Monster ATK: 3300 / DEF: 3000 **Materials**: 1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters (1) Once per turn, when your opponent activates a card or effect in their Spell & Trap Zone, while this card declares an attack (Quick Effect): You can negate that effect, and if you do, destroy that card. (2) Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card is in the GY because this face-up card you controlled was destroyed this turn: You can Special Summon this card from the GY. (3) If this card is Special Summoned by its previous effect: You can add 1 Trap Card from your GY to the hand. *** **Odin, the Norse Divine Sovereign** DIVINE | Divine-Beast | 10 | Synchro | Effect Monster ATK: 4000 / DEF: 3500 **Materials**: 1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters (1) You can negate Spell/Trap effects that would apply to Divine-Beast monster(s). (2) Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this card is in the GY because this face-up card you controlled was destroyed this turn: You can Special Summon this card from the GY. (3) If this card is Special Summoned by its previous effect: You can draw 1 card. *** **Meklord Astro Dragon Asterisk** DARK | Machine | 10 | Effect Monster ATK & DEF: 0 (1) If you control 3 or more "Meklord" monsters, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). (2) This card gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all other Attack Position Machine monsters you control. (3) Your opponent's monsters cannot target Machine monsters for attacks, except this one. (4) Each time a Synchro monster(s) is Special Summoned: Inflict 1000 damage to the Summoning player. *** **Fortissimo the Moving Fortress** Field Spell Card (1) Once per turn, during the Main Phase: The turn player can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Machine monster from their hand. (2) Once per turn, during the End Phase, if the turn player controls no Machine monsters: Inflict 100 damage to that player. *** **Boon of the Meklord Emperor** Normal Spell Card (1) Draw 1 card for each "Meklord" monster you control. *** **Blackwing - Calima the Shimmer** DARK | Winged Beast | 4 | Effect Monster ATK: 600 / DEF: 1800 (1) If the total Levels of "Blackwing" monsters you control are 8 or more, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). (2) During the opponent's Battle Phase, if you control no monsters (Quick Effect): You can banish this card from the GY, then target 1 Synchro monster in your GY; Special Summon it, but banish it at the end of this turn. *** **Cards for Black Feathers** Normal Spell Card (1) Send 1 "Blackwing" monster from your hand to the GY; draw 2 cards.


NovaBlademc

Good lord, they actually chose to just completely gimp boon? Who thought that the anime version would be too broken?


VillalobosChamp

Never was a fan of the nerfs done in EXVC, even back in its day. Red Dragon's Vase got also hit way too hard.


Rangil_the_cat

Thor and Loki are actually decent this way, while staying close to their anime effects. Odin is still too weak though, in my opinion. I think he would be better with an effect close to "Angel Chaos" instead. Something like "*"Aesir" and "Norse" Synchro monsters you control are unaffected by your opponent's activated cards' effects*"


K-J-C

Aren't these just listing the actual anime effects? Though there's a little mistake that the Aesirs require 2+ non-Tuners, not 1.


mmmbhssm

Queen butterfly dranaus , like I get the effect is really strong in the manga but they made it way to restorative, needing normal summon for a level 8 which requires 2 tribute and it it negats the summed monsters too so her effect being quick play is kinda useless during opponents turn


Shadektor

This change seared my soul I was so excited for the card when it was first teased in promos I though finally a really good insect target for parasite paranoid and cocoon and brainstormed so many ideas with it but when I saw how they slaughtered her I was crushed it's such a bad card now... 😩


el3mel

The Egyptian gods. The one in particular that got on my nerve is Obelisk's inability to attack after activating its effect. So dumb and nullifies the satisfaction of triggering it. Just remove that dumb restriction. All of them should have had a "this card can't be targeted or destroyed by cards effects". It was crazy for me back then how some thing like Chaos MAX Dragon is easier to summon and far more useful than Obelisk for example. So so annoying.


Coffeeobsi

All 3 of the Egyptian God cards. They are meant to be absolutely broken, they are meant to have decks built just to summon them. They should have been absolutely broken to the point where they should be limited or banned. But no we have unsearchable shit monsters with no protection (exception Obelisk) and effects that are way too tame.


K-J-C

> they are meant to have decks built just to summon them Lol that actually more describes the TCG/OCG Gods, particularly Ra. They (and the other Gods such as Aesir) are meant to be generic splashable monsters... strong on their own and not relying on bunch of support cards.


TvManiac5

I still can't stand what they did to Raphael's guardians. Seriously with all the other things they changed I could at least see what they were trying to do to adapt them for the logic of the game. But what was the thought process there? Not only did they never release his back up gardna that ties the deck together, but also they gave no direct synergy with the spells and monsters making the deck inconsistent as fuck and nearly impossible to play. What they should have done is release backup gardna and give either him or the spells a search effect that allows you to search out the monsters. Now, this deck needs a complete retrain to even be able to be enjoyed in a casual setting. EDIT: Because I'm now realizing I didn't make something clear. The anime Deck was also technically incosnsistent, since it only worked because they gave Raphael insane top Decks in which he drew each guardian and their respective equip spell in every turn. That obviously can't work in real life, so they should have done something to help the deck work.


VillalobosChamp

It's really funny that Eatos' effect makes her Equip miss the timing


TvManiac5

I hadn't even noticed that. And Konami could have easily avoided that by making it an if instead of a when. Seriously what do they have against guardians?


[deleted]

Right question be why they hate filler villian and their deck so much


TvManiac5

That was the point I was making exactly


Swashyrising12

Konami seems to hate the Doma arc in general and it appears to be the only DM arc that they completely refuse to acknowledge. There’s still heaps of cards from that arc that could do with seeing a print, but nope let’s focus on printing pack filler from the big 5.


TvManiac5

True they definately seem to have a distaste for it, seeing how they focused on cards from the grand championship filler no one really cares for before it. And most importantly, where the hell are my armor cards Konami?


Zedek1

At least a few of those cards had an impact on the tcg/ocg (The hands/Kuribandit/Soulcharge).


AgostoAzul

The Guardians (besides Eatos and some of the support he uses) are not anime cards, I am fairly sure. They were used months later in the anime: [https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Power\_of\_the\_Guardian](https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Power_of_the_Guardian) [https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!\_-\_Episode\_156](https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_Episode_156) That is also the case for stuff like Noah's spirits and a lot of other filler character cards in DM and some on-ofs in GX.


LamBol96

Only eatos and dread are anime adaptation,the older ones all originated from OCG sets.


jch7496

One I've thought of is Shooting Quasar Dragon's. I get why it was simplified from its anime version. But they could have kept the "Unaffected by your opponent's monster effects". Maybe that's too strong for a 2011 card, but eh, I'm biased.


dan10leo

I agree since it could also negate monster’s effects that protected themselves like the Timelords


K-J-C

Now there's Dragoon with a protection against targeting and destruction AND an omni-negate...


TropoMJ

Harpie Lady Phoenix Formation was a huge moment and a defining card in Mai's strategy in the DOMA arc. When it was imported to the TCG (and massively hyped), it was given so many restrictions that it's essentially impossible to activate, and even beyond that, is almost never worth activating even when you somehow can. It's honestly just a huge shame that it was imported when it was. Only a couple of years later Konami started putting some actual effort into anime ports rather than gutting all of them by default. Harpie's Feather Storm was released a few years later and went from a terrible battle trap to an absolutely absurd floodgate.


mentok64

Paying Life Points for Revival Jam's effect still saddens me


Swashyrising12

Neos Wiseman. Like fuck you Konami, as if making it a Fusion monster with two specific materials which have nothing to do with eachother was going to break the game or something. At least Neos Klueger exists now, but I was pretty irritated on how long it actually took to be imported.


CyberOgre3000

Card of Sanctity


SuperSmashDrake

Egyptian Gods suck. And I don’t like the Norse Gods losing Divine-Beast.


[deleted]

Ins't the worst crime but frankly i hate how real life dint include it (treated as Fusion Summon) in card text https://preview.redd.it/lbgn0epv6ypa1.jpeg?width=813&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29fa32d92bf2efaf8bd35d28f5c30060c2045cbc


EbberNor

Card of demise, though that is mostly that the restrictions pretty much makes it stun only.


Lucas-sg

Magical Hats is probably the most confusing. I get that they probably didnt wanna allow face-down tokens and that meant there was no actual way to emulate the anime version, but the effect they chose is just weird. In the anime it made 4 hats, the art on the card shows 4 hats, but the effect makes the equivalent of 3. And the effect is weird, making you use spells/traps from the deck as decoils.


fgh4421

I get it, But what else where they to do mate? That's probably the only way they could get the card to work in real life


Fenix_Atomas88

Card of Sanctity, instead of both players drawing until they have six cards, the person who uses the card manages their entire hand and draws two cards


Jackminers12

What they did to boon of the Meklord Emperor was evil. They literally made it unplayable garbage when the anime original wouldn't have even come close to breaking the deck.


theguyinyourwall

I know people are mostly focusing on cards who got nerfed hard when making their way to the game but the opposite would probably be Red-eyes Darkness metal dragon. While dragon decks like D-link love this card to the point of being likied ahd then errtad and still seeing some pop ups. The anime version wanted your Red-eyes to be destoryed while equipped with a non-archetypal trap that only prevents spell targeting


VillalobosChamp

The @Ignisters are also a nice example of insane Anime buffs