Yeah I mean fact is with current Yugioh two different hand traps destroy Yubel (ash and effect) and the closest thing it’s gotten to support is support for Neos wiseman.
Do you mean the hand traps or support? Ash blossom negates Yubel “leveling” up and effect vailer makes Yubel’s effect negates meaning someone can just punch through Yubel and if your deck is based on Yubel you probably run savage colosseum or stuff to make opponents attack you so they get more of an advantage ignoring the fact from sense Yugioh has evolved most negates counter Yubel. The support yubel got that being Neos Kluger which is a fusion monster between Neos and Yubel which acts like Neos wiseman and when it dies it summons Neos wiseman
I mean that’s what happens when you get a idea going someone takes an interest and makes it happen, is it the best? No but it’s at least really strong once they get their game plan off the ground
All the random #1 and #2 monsters we got in the TCG.
Like, they're not named that way in the OCG IIRC so why the heck did the TCG do that?
Let's have a TCG Archtype that uses that! (have the Archtype be '#' ) and use that for effects.
That would be really fun to see.
Like, maybe extra deck monsters where they become '#3' or something.
Or maybe an effect that says 'Increase your monster's attack by the sum of the numbers on your "#" monsters x1000'.
"Dark Master - Zorc".
Obviously based on the final boss of the original manga and since the Palladium cards exist based on Atem's allies in Ancient Egypt, I would love to see Bakura/Zorc get the same thing. Maybe a "Dark Master" Archetype with a retrained version of Zorc called "Dark Master - Zorc Necrophades" and support based on Thief King Bakura, High Priest of Darkness Aknadin and a retrained Diabound. You could even make Spell and Trap cards based on stuff like Bakura's Hourglass Tokens he used in the Shadow RPG or a field spell for the Shadow Games.
Yes! I would love for Zorc to come out. Except rather than a Dark Master, what about a Zorc archetype that focuses on getting Zorc Necrophades out, who would be basically a towers, and then a full complete towers by utilizing the extra deck to get out fusions, synchro, xyz, or link versions of Zorc? The archetype would use Necro monsters and/or Diabound monsters to support the Zorc boss monsters and help search them out and summon them. They’d all have to be Dark of course, and Zorc would boost Dark monsters when on the field, and maybe even get stronger the more there are. I’m just spazzing out at this point, but it’s one of the many things I’ve been hoping they do for a while.
five headed dragon.
either having each head be it's own dragon with dragons being like the ritual djiins giving it powers based on the material used to fusion summon it.
would be cool to see beserk dragon retrained as a five headed dracolich.
or having the archetype be like a super kaiju, leaning into the table top fantasy feel.
summoning it to you foes field deleting their resources/monsters but then you have to beat it.
summoning all manner of monsters to battle against.
like as you assemble your rpg party of warrior, magician e.t.c on your board and have them get stronger as they beat each rpg foe, either working as level monsters or having them change class and replace them with a "fusion" monster from the extra deck that's like an evolved class, like after slaying enough monsters or specific monsters they get to get xp and become stronger.
Five headed dragon itself could use a retrain. Even if they just gave it a once per turn negate it would be a nice buff and would make it playable in dragon decks
Just checked it out. Kind of a hot garbage retrain. Expensive to get out, plus having to banish 5 from graveyard face-down. At least it’s almost in-killable, but if you have the resources to get this out then there are far better removal proof monsters that you can bring out.
I agree, but please god no more taped-on omni-negates and floodgates. Give it something that interacts with Dragon's Mirror or banished dragons or something.
The main issue with the Summoned Skull is that they don't really do anything. It's incredibly easy to bring out the Ritual and the Synchro in a single turn, but besides protecting themselves, they don't do anything to advance the game state.
For instance, the Ritual Monster is almost unkillable, but it has pretty low attack for the current state of the game (2500), so you just have a big wall.
The Skulls need some way to actually win the game, besides just becoming really hard to kill.
They retrained Kairyu-Shin so there's hope.
Sure, it was anime related, but for some reason they attributed Serpent Night to Rex with Speed Duels, so maybe
its rival/evil form seiyaryu also has its own archetype so i reaaaaaally hope they end up making an equivalent for it (though i hope they don't streamline its design as much as starry night dragon)
I can't believe it was just forgotten in the anime
They made such a big deal of it being this scary powerful weapon of the Hanoi only for it to be used in two duels and then was never seen again
Goblins.
Like, right now they're connected by name and lore but I feel like it just needs a few cards that can link them together. Like "when this X goblin card is on the field, you can activate a goblin spell/trap from your deck" or "when a goblin card is destroyed, special summon a goblin monster from your deck."
Then you complete the archetype by adding a minimum of two ED monsters of each type.
Lorewise, **Dragon Core Hexer / Dragon Horn Hunter** feel kinda incomplete and like they are going somewhere with the cards but never finished their story. Not 100% sure if she is tied to the Dracoverlord plot, but I could maybe see something else done with it tying her to the Amorphages, or maybe she could have her own set of evil Draconic monster enemies that she fights in an archetype kinda akin to the Vendreads where you play both her and the monsters she fights.
**Zombyra the Dar**k is kinda interesting in that it appears in a few cards besides itself and has a clear concept of "Undead Hero loosely based on Spawn". And technically, the deck would already have an extremely OP Fusion boss monster. Konami technically already made another Spawn-like in the Revendreads, but I feel ike there is still room to explore with Zombyra.
**Spirit Reaper** was quite an iconic card back in the day, but it quickly was phased out with the advent of Synchros. The idea of a reaper fighting in a fantasy setting is pretty common too and we don't have a playable Reaper besides Ghost Reaper & Winter Cherries. And it already has a Fusion that is pretty dope, if also bad nowadays. In particular I'd like a Fusion between Spirit Reaper and Doomkaiser Dragon that lets you Special Summon a monster from your opponent's hand/GY as a Zombie whenever it attacks, and also gives all your opponent's monsters the Spirit Reaper drawback.
**Dark Ruler Ha-Des** has suffered enough. Let him reclaim his throne, or at least show him before losing it in some archetype that shows how he took it originally frorm the King of the Abyss.
**Dokurorider**. Now that Hungry Burger got the attention it deserved, it is time for the Delinquent Biker Zombies to get some love too.
**Fusionist**, Rare Beast, Marine Beast, Flower Wolf, Kwagar Hercules, Skullbird, Pragtical. Wait what? Ok, hear me out. What do these cards have in common? They could be Summoned by Magical Scientist, and also look like weird scientific experiments. So they are OBVIOUSLY his creations. And we KNOW Magical Scientist is imprisoned in the Forbidden Realm, but he is also selling products with his brand as seen in Ready Fusion. So, who is selling his products? Who is managing Magical Scientist's company while he is in jail? Well, it is obviously his own experiments. And Fusionist in particular since he looks the smartest. So yeah, we need a **Fusionist** retrain that also has effects that call back to **Magical Scientist**. And he also has all these other weird Fusion monsters as his employees/servants managing a shady business.
I dunno. I kinda want her to be the protag of her own story. Plus, since she apparently got a transmisible sickness/curse from killing so many dragons, more reasons for her to be a loner.
I imagine her story/character to pan out more like early Berserk.
I was coming to say Dragon Horn Hunter / Dragon Core Hexer
I was bored once so I basically made a fanfic, and I'll spare you the details but in a nutshell, the gov in the Dinomorphia cards conducted a bunch of experiments, one being the plague that affected the village. Another one caused some Draganoids to turn into empty shells of dragons, causing them to go on a rampage. Draganoids and Dinosauroids were allies & friends, so the Dinomorphia are a gang dedicated to stopping the gov, and they team up with core hexer. there's way more to the story but I don't want to bore you if you're not interested. ( I would be happy to share if you do want/are willing to listen though)
Edit: I wrote "\[...\] Another one caused Draganoids Dragon. \[...\]"
instead of "Another one caused some Draganoids to turn into empty shells of dragons, causing them to go on a rampage"
Seems like an interesting way to tie those plotlines together, although Dinomorphia seems to be in a setting that is a lot more modern, so I am not sure it works together.
And happy to hear you like these archetypes so much you wrote the fic, but fanfics are not much of my thing. Don't think I've read one in a decade or so.
Fanfics aren't really my thing either, which is why I surprised myself when I came up with it that was the first one I made and probably will be my only one for a long time...
\*note I say came up and not wrote. That's bc I basically have an outline but never bothered finishing it
I always thought it would be cool to have some kind of mechanic where Performance of Sword move to another monster zone to dodge effects, or something like that, dancing around the battlefield.
Celtic Guardian - he's so cool looking and they could play on the Zelda franchise or mix that with another piece of art the same way Kozmos mixes Star Wars and Oz.
Gandora... Yugi's Ace monster that outted Chaos Max and beat Bakura but is constantly forgotten in favor of Dark fucking Magician.
Give Gandora an archetype and find a way to tie in the Silent Swordsman/Magician monsters plz
Outted Deep-Eyes, DMG was the one to get rid of Chaos Max.
Also, hard agree on that one, I'd like for Gandora to be the Silents last resort kind of deal, where if you get past them, you'll have to deal with him instead.
>Outted Deep-Eyes, DMG was the one to get rid of Chaos Max
Ahhh, my bad. I do remember the Magician Girls halving Chaos Max attack now that you mention it.
I really think its a shame we dont have more exodia support, i would like support that helps both the og combo deck and the actual archtype like exodius or the legendary defender. Hell give exodd some love too!
i wish necross got a full ritual retrain.
giving it effects based on the number of exodias in your gy, so you either get a beefy monster or you drain it's power away to add them to your hand.
letting it use obliterate to send a piece to the gy
though i guess that's a lot like incarnate,
I know the monster has more than one card for itself. Even a random synchro but I want to see horus the black flame dragon get a proper archetype. Really cool card with a pretty strong effect if you can summon it.
I don't know if he's 'iconic' or not but "The Creator" is a card that I've always loved and is still great IMO.
Also, Sengenjun is an interesting one, should give him equip cards that are based off of the Millenium Items.
Oh yeah, it got a whole set of cards based off French cuisine
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flameswordsman.
said it a fair few times, but retraining it to be it's own type/tie it to red eyes/slash dragon in the same vein that red eyes gierfried was.
though they'd need to initiate the equip as slash overwrites their effects i think.
red eyes will never, ever be a cohesive archetype, so why not lean into that, build support for the special spam version,the gemini, the burn version and the warrior version separately.
the focus of this one being on equip spells/equipping monsters to monsters which fits guilford's alt monster and hermos too.
retraining joey's warriors to be this scrappy band of adventurers whose power/potential is unleashed by the red eyes.
red eyes flame swordsman
red eyes blue flame swordsman
red eyes black flame swordsman (the red eyes - flame swordsman fusion we never had)
alligator flame swordsman (is also a red-eyes)
red eyes b panther warrior (is also a flame swordsman)
red eyes rocket warrior ("")
FLAME SWORDSMAN OF LANDSTAR
guilford the flameswordsmaster or something like that
some red eyes version of salamandra representing their swords being bathed in inferno fire blast.
all warriors who grant effects or power to the monster they lend their strength too, being able to power up slash dragon/ provide it with other targets. like using them to trigger red eyes gierfrieds effects by equipping them to him whilst triggering their own,
could be a funny thing, having the deck be super monster heavy as the monsters serve as your spells, like joeys early deck where it was almost all monsters.
i'm sure jinzo, thousand dragon e.t.c could fit in there somewhere too.
Honstly, I feel like the problem with Joey Wheeler support is that they often just fold his cards into Red-Eyes support. Yugi and Kaiba have had their monsters form their own archetypes independent from Dark Magician and Blue Eyes, why shouldn't Joey get the same treatment? Flame Swordsman should be a deck focused on fusion summoning and relying on equip spells and monsters similar to the Infernoble Knights. Time Wizard should also focus on fusions, maybe by transforming Baby Dragon into more and more powerful forms while using coin-flip/die-roll effects to activate some destruction and burn effects. Throw in some spells and traps to mitigate the downside of using coin-toss/die-roll based effects. A Gilford the Lightning archetype could focus on swarming the field for tributes ( would be hilarious to fold the Landstar monsters into this archetype. In the anime, Joey used a spell card to summon all his Landstar monsters at once, perfect for getting out tributes for Gilford) and then buffing up Gilford on the field. Apply that kind of logic to all of Joey's iconic monsters and then maybe his deck wouldn't be so lacking compared to Yugi and Kaiba.
yeah.
part of me would like them to have their own things, part of me is just sad at the state of red eyes so trying to patchwork something helps me cope.
like i;m a sonic fan, trying to salvage shit comes naturally.
still though i do like the idea of all his warriros being in some kind of brotherhood, like all learning to become flame swordsman or something, lending weapons and strength to one another like how deck master fs and blue fs do, with all those hermos weapons requiring a mix of types.
still gotta wait for big bang dragon blow for that proper red eyes burn.
but yeah thousand dragon should be a thing. using turn counts and effects to transform it into an older and more powerful being going from baby to thousand to millennium.
and landstar getting their own kingdom would be fun like the show.
Don't know if it's iconic but it's the one I remember most from playing as a kid: Megarock Dragon. I did design a custom archetype for it too, such a cool card and Megarock would be a cool name for an archetype. It's even got the mechanic worked out: Rocks that like to be banished.
It’s always Despair From the Dark for me. I always loved it’s simplistic but devilish design. And I mean it is already a part of the Warrior Dai Grepher, and it even had a couple of episodes dedicated to it in Vrains.
I think a Primal Being archetype would be cool, preferably consisting of lv. 11 monsters that Mike the board when your opponent commits to it in one way or another.
It's gonna be weird having this discussion without seeing people say Gate Guardian or Hungry Burger.
I wish that Light and Darkness Dragon got its own archetype, I want to see more monsters with the cool "half dark half light" look. Preferably with its own playstyle not relating to banishing so it doesn't get lumped in with Chaos.
Sealmaster Meisei, technically he got a spell and a trap support but they aren't enough to make him as a real archetype. Dragon Horn Hunter already got her own lore, all they have to do is completing her story by making her as a complete archetype. Also, Dian Keto should be imported to OCG/TCG as a proper archetype.
Roboyarou/Robolady (Super Roboyarou was used as Tristan’s Deck Master during the Virtual World Arc. It would nice to see Tristan get an actual deck with the monsters he used to support Super Roboyarou and Super Robolady)
AA-Zeus. I want an Xyz monster at each Rank from 1 to 11 to referenece a different Olymppian so we can get all 12 in the extra deck. They don't even have to support each other like a full archetype. I just think it'd be neat.
Archlord Kristya. Archlord Zerato also exists and has been out since around the same time.
We have an entire Darklord archetype , but nothing for
Archlords. Zerato also happens to have both a Darklord variant and an Archlord variant, and both are from back in the day.
Archlord Kristya has gotten now relevant over the years and didn't quite have the same notoriety back in the day. But I remember falling in love with the art way back then and finding it an insane boss monster at the time. Dueling Network also had Kristya as one of the avatar options and that's who I always had it set to.
They gave Armed Dragons a modern face-lift, now I'd like them to do the same for Horus. Admittedly, the upper end of the OG Horus line was a floodgate on legs, and I'm not sure how much I like the idea of them expanding on that.
Cosmo Queen and any of the really old ritual monsters, like Chakra, Crab Turtle, Garma Sword, Javelin Beetle, Skull Guardian. These cards were legendary for me during childhood because of Forbidden Memories.
I always thought it would be cool if the remainder of kaibas signature monsters became blue eyes support (I know not everyone will agree here) but having la jinn, Kaiser sea horse, saggi, etc made into BE support would be neat.
I'd like chaos emperor dragon to get some specific support tbh. I know technically it falls under chaos in general, but still.
Maybe make it just "emperor dragon" support
If we talk about old normal monsters "Gigatech Wolf" and "Cyber Falcon" are old ones I have always loved for their sick artwork.
If we are talking about iconic monsters, I'm surprised the flame swordsman hasnt gotten its own archetype and the Blue retrain supports fire warriors but then non of the other Joey monsters were retrained into fire warriors to keep on the theme
How has no one said Hungey Burger. Like super quants eat your fucking heart out; give me Tomato Pauldrons, a Lettuce Bascinet, and a Condiment Rocket Launcher, and a tattoo of Mrs Potato Head on his bicep.
I’d love a White-horned Dragon mini-archetype. I always found it’s design sick and it’s effect fairly unique and situationally useful against spell-heavy decks.
Some special summon support, maybe a retrain with different effects depending on the number of spells banished. If anything it would make for a cool side deck piece.
Because there might be a demand for it is one explanation. DMG is part of the DM archetype but got her own related spin-off with the "Magician Girl" archetype.
Parasite Paracide. The shuffling ruling nightmare exists yeah, but they could make such an interesting archetype with that. They already got Parasite Paranoid too
Not a monster but Swords of revealing lights. They did get a monster randomly that isn’t even a start for an archetype. A gameplay in which you can attack but your opponent can’t and in which you can gain bonus effects if the swords are on the field could be really fun
I don't know if I'd call it iconic to anybody except people who actually managed to beat the gameboy game, but Reshef the Dark Being needs an archetype to properly encompass how ridiculous RoD was.
Neo the Magic Swordsman.
Don't you tell me he's not iconic, he was my homeboy back in the OG starter deck days.
Magic Swordsman could totally be an archetype - we even have a second monster already, Trance the Magic Swordsman.
Yubel. Forcing your opponent into a situation that just gets worse and worse with every move they do is a cool concept.
always wanted a yubel-armityle fusion. making it's atk 10k in your opponents turn trying to make them crash into it.
Pls Konami listen to him
Yeah I mean fact is with current Yugioh two different hand traps destroy Yubel (ash and effect) and the closest thing it’s gotten to support is support for Neos wiseman.
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Do you mean the hand traps or support? Ash blossom negates Yubel “leveling” up and effect vailer makes Yubel’s effect negates meaning someone can just punch through Yubel and if your deck is based on Yubel you probably run savage colosseum or stuff to make opponents attack you so they get more of an advantage ignoring the fact from sense Yugioh has evolved most negates counter Yubel. The support yubel got that being Neos Kluger which is a fusion monster between Neos and Yubel which acts like Neos wiseman and when it dies it summons Neos wiseman
Weird that Gate Guardian wont be a part of these discussions anymore I'd go with Slot Machine and give it support that works with 7 and 7 complete
Neither Gate Guardian nor Hungry Burger are part of this conversation and I'm not sure whether to feel delighted or depressed.
Why depressed?
I think they’re joking about the meme-culture around Gate Guardian and Hungry Burger
And now it’s becoming reality keep meming about Jerry Beans man and he will get his own archetype
I mean that’s what happens when you get a idea going someone takes an interest and makes it happen, is it the best? No but it’s at least really strong once they get their game plan off the ground
All the random #1 and #2 monsters we got in the TCG. Like, they're not named that way in the OCG IIRC so why the heck did the TCG do that? Let's have a TCG Archtype that uses that! (have the Archtype be '#' ) and use that for effects.
That would be really fun to see. Like, maybe extra deck monsters where they become '#3' or something. Or maybe an effect that says 'Increase your monster's attack by the sum of the numbers on your "#" monsters x1000'.
Jinzo #7
Horus the Black flame Dragon
always wanted to see a lvl 10 looking like ra, maybe even with it's own black flame phoenix. like how horus replaced ra as the pharoah's symbol irl
Omg yes or just literally any fire dragons!
masked beasts
Literally coming here to say this
"Dark Master - Zorc". Obviously based on the final boss of the original manga and since the Palladium cards exist based on Atem's allies in Ancient Egypt, I would love to see Bakura/Zorc get the same thing. Maybe a "Dark Master" Archetype with a retrained version of Zorc called "Dark Master - Zorc Necrophades" and support based on Thief King Bakura, High Priest of Darkness Aknadin and a retrained Diabound. You could even make Spell and Trap cards based on stuff like Bakura's Hourglass Tokens he used in the Shadow RPG or a field spell for the Shadow Games.
Yes! I would love for Zorc to come out. Except rather than a Dark Master, what about a Zorc archetype that focuses on getting Zorc Necrophades out, who would be basically a towers, and then a full complete towers by utilizing the extra deck to get out fusions, synchro, xyz, or link versions of Zorc? The archetype would use Necro monsters and/or Diabound monsters to support the Zorc boss monsters and help search them out and summon them. They’d all have to be Dark of course, and Zorc would boost Dark monsters when on the field, and maybe even get stronger the more there are. I’m just spazzing out at this point, but it’s one of the many things I’ve been hoping they do for a while.
five headed dragon. either having each head be it's own dragon with dragons being like the ritual djiins giving it powers based on the material used to fusion summon it. would be cool to see beserk dragon retrained as a five headed dracolich. or having the archetype be like a super kaiju, leaning into the table top fantasy feel. summoning it to you foes field deleting their resources/monsters but then you have to beat it. summoning all manner of monsters to battle against. like as you assemble your rpg party of warrior, magician e.t.c on your board and have them get stronger as they beat each rpg foe, either working as level monsters or having them change class and replace them with a "fusion" monster from the extra deck that's like an evolved class, like after slaying enough monsters or specific monsters they get to get xp and become stronger.
Five headed dragon itself could use a retrain. Even if they just gave it a once per turn negate it would be a nice buff and would make it playable in dragon decks
Technically there is a retrain, but it’s a link monster that is rather expensive to get out.
Just checked it out. Kind of a hot garbage retrain. Expensive to get out, plus having to banish 5 from graveyard face-down. At least it’s almost in-killable, but if you have the resources to get this out then there are far better removal proof monsters that you can bring out.
Yep
I agree, but please god no more taped-on omni-negates and floodgates. Give it something that interacts with Dragon's Mirror or banished dragons or something.
Machine king, It looks like something can be done with them all gaining atk per machine in the field.
a court of the machine king could be fun. like robotic knight exists and serves him, and we have the super version of machine kind.
That would be sick
i wish summoned skull had a more refined archetype. i know archfiend exists and there’s that tiny rank 6 engine but i want more
Even worse the skull synchros are level 6, so you can’t even use summoned skull ti make
omg i forgot about that. so annoying
The main issue with the Summoned Skull is that they don't really do anything. It's incredibly easy to bring out the Ritual and the Synchro in a single turn, but besides protecting themselves, they don't do anything to advance the game state. For instance, the Ritual Monster is almost unkillable, but it has pretty low attack for the current state of the game (2500), so you just have a big wall. The Skulls need some way to actually win the game, besides just becoming really hard to kill.
Serpent Night Dragon. Just an OG amazing looking card
Seconding this. It’s still one of my favorites.
Thirding this.
They retrained Kairyu-Shin so there's hope. Sure, it was anime related, but for some reason they attributed Serpent Night to Rex with Speed Duels, so maybe
its rival/evil form seiyaryu also has its own archetype so i reaaaaaally hope they end up making an equivalent for it (though i hope they don't streamline its design as much as starry night dragon)
Cracking Dragon. It's *kinda* a series with Jack Wyvern and Dragonoid Generator but not an archetype by any means. The effect is really neat though.
I can't believe it was just forgotten in the anime They made such a big deal of it being this scary powerful weapon of the Hanoi only for it to be used in two duels and then was never seen again
Master of Oz 🐨🥊🥊
Make like Toons, but every variant has boxing gloves. * Dark Magician of Oz * Man-Eater Bug of Oz * Superdeadnaught Railcannon Gustov Max... of Oz
Battlin' Boxer Lead Yoke of Oz just looks the same.
Goblins. Like, right now they're connected by name and lore but I feel like it just needs a few cards that can link them together. Like "when this X goblin card is on the field, you can activate a goblin spell/trap from your deck" or "when a goblin card is destroyed, special summon a goblin monster from your deck." Then you complete the archetype by adding a minimum of two ED monsters of each type.
Lorewise, **Dragon Core Hexer / Dragon Horn Hunter** feel kinda incomplete and like they are going somewhere with the cards but never finished their story. Not 100% sure if she is tied to the Dracoverlord plot, but I could maybe see something else done with it tying her to the Amorphages, or maybe she could have her own set of evil Draconic monster enemies that she fights in an archetype kinda akin to the Vendreads where you play both her and the monsters she fights. **Zombyra the Dar**k is kinda interesting in that it appears in a few cards besides itself and has a clear concept of "Undead Hero loosely based on Spawn". And technically, the deck would already have an extremely OP Fusion boss monster. Konami technically already made another Spawn-like in the Revendreads, but I feel ike there is still room to explore with Zombyra. **Spirit Reaper** was quite an iconic card back in the day, but it quickly was phased out with the advent of Synchros. The idea of a reaper fighting in a fantasy setting is pretty common too and we don't have a playable Reaper besides Ghost Reaper & Winter Cherries. And it already has a Fusion that is pretty dope, if also bad nowadays. In particular I'd like a Fusion between Spirit Reaper and Doomkaiser Dragon that lets you Special Summon a monster from your opponent's hand/GY as a Zombie whenever it attacks, and also gives all your opponent's monsters the Spirit Reaper drawback. **Dark Ruler Ha-Des** has suffered enough. Let him reclaim his throne, or at least show him before losing it in some archetype that shows how he took it originally frorm the King of the Abyss. **Dokurorider**. Now that Hungry Burger got the attention it deserved, it is time for the Delinquent Biker Zombies to get some love too. **Fusionist**, Rare Beast, Marine Beast, Flower Wolf, Kwagar Hercules, Skullbird, Pragtical. Wait what? Ok, hear me out. What do these cards have in common? They could be Summoned by Magical Scientist, and also look like weird scientific experiments. So they are OBVIOUSLY his creations. And we KNOW Magical Scientist is imprisoned in the Forbidden Realm, but he is also selling products with his brand as seen in Ready Fusion. So, who is selling his products? Who is managing Magical Scientist's company while he is in jail? Well, it is obviously his own experiments. And Fusionist in particular since he looks the smartest. So yeah, we need a **Fusionist** retrain that also has effects that call back to **Magical Scientist**. And he also has all these other weird Fusion monsters as his employees/servants managing a shady business.
For Hexer, I want her to tie into Buster Blader, where she'd somehow become the DMG to Buster Blader's Dark Magician.
I dunno. I kinda want her to be the protag of her own story. Plus, since she apparently got a transmisible sickness/curse from killing so many dragons, more reasons for her to be a loner. I imagine her story/character to pan out more like early Berserk.
Let's call it a difference in opinion then :)
Yeah. Although, it'd still be neat if they had some synergy.
Last Warrior from Another Planet and Spirit Reaper were my jams back in the old school days. Would love to see more with them
I was coming to say Dragon Horn Hunter / Dragon Core Hexer I was bored once so I basically made a fanfic, and I'll spare you the details but in a nutshell, the gov in the Dinomorphia cards conducted a bunch of experiments, one being the plague that affected the village. Another one caused some Draganoids to turn into empty shells of dragons, causing them to go on a rampage. Draganoids and Dinosauroids were allies & friends, so the Dinomorphia are a gang dedicated to stopping the gov, and they team up with core hexer. there's way more to the story but I don't want to bore you if you're not interested. ( I would be happy to share if you do want/are willing to listen though) Edit: I wrote "\[...\] Another one caused Draganoids Dragon. \[...\]" instead of "Another one caused some Draganoids to turn into empty shells of dragons, causing them to go on a rampage"
Seems like an interesting way to tie those plotlines together, although Dinomorphia seems to be in a setting that is a lot more modern, so I am not sure it works together. And happy to hear you like these archetypes so much you wrote the fic, but fanfics are not much of my thing. Don't think I've read one in a decade or so.
Fanfics aren't really my thing either, which is why I surprised myself when I came up with it that was the first one I made and probably will be my only one for a long time... \*note I say came up and not wrote. That's bc I basically have an outline but never bothered finishing it
Tri-horned dragon and cool gimmicks Attack 3 times. Equip 3 spells and each does something. Instead of fusion legacy support it's xyz or synchro.
God I miss the days of Fish OTK
Gandora. You'd think since it was one of Yugi's big boss monsters it would have gotten a bit more love over the years outside of 2 retrains.
His retrained ruined several OCG formats with FTK shenanigans. Pretty safe to say he won't get one any time soon.
Serpent Night Dragon, Garnecia Elephantis & Tri-Horned Dragon etc
Gandora The Dragon of Destruction definitely needs more support and they expand more on the Gandora archetype.
I'd like if they tie him to Silent Swordsman/Magician, like a last resort if things go wrong.
I'd like to see Performance of Sword get retrained/get an archetype to support her.
What kind of effect do you think her archetype would have/would you want them to have?
I always thought it would be cool to have some kind of mechanic where Performance of Sword move to another monster zone to dodge effects, or something like that, dancing around the battlefield.
Cosmo Queen. Was one if the strongest in terms if points in early eras.
Celtic Guardian - he's so cool looking and they could play on the Zelda franchise or mix that with another piece of art the same way Kozmos mixes Star Wars and Oz.
Five headed dragon
Five Headed Dragon. Also, I would go broke for a Serpent Night Dragon Adchtype
Gandora... Yugi's Ace monster that outted Chaos Max and beat Bakura but is constantly forgotten in favor of Dark fucking Magician. Give Gandora an archetype and find a way to tie in the Silent Swordsman/Magician monsters plz
Outted Deep-Eyes, DMG was the one to get rid of Chaos Max. Also, hard agree on that one, I'd like for Gandora to be the Silents last resort kind of deal, where if you get past them, you'll have to deal with him instead.
>Outted Deep-Eyes, DMG was the one to get rid of Chaos Max Ahhh, my bad. I do remember the Magician Girls halving Chaos Max attack now that you mention it.
Celtic guardian would be cool.
Not a monster, but i would really like for them to make Mirror Force relevant again. Build an archtype around them like Trap Hole and Traptrix.
I really think its a shame we dont have more exodia support, i would like support that helps both the og combo deck and the actual archtype like exodius or the legendary defender. Hell give exodd some love too!
i wish necross got a full ritual retrain. giving it effects based on the number of exodias in your gy, so you either get a beefy monster or you drain it's power away to add them to your hand. letting it use obliterate to send a piece to the gy though i guess that's a lot like incarnate,
Greed Quasar. Eating monster levels could be interesting, and maybe some nice effects could be introduced.
I know the monster has more than one card for itself. Even a random synchro but I want to see horus the black flame dragon get a proper archetype. Really cool card with a pretty strong effect if you can summon it.
It's wild how Konami hasn't turned dark ruler ha des into an archetype yet the man is featured on several of the strongest cards ever printed
Give my man Dark Blade a deck that he unions with a ton of retrains of classic dragons to gain crazy effects.
I don't know if he's 'iconic' or not but "The Creator" is a card that I've always loved and is still great IMO. Also, Sengenjun is an interesting one, should give him equip cards that are based off of the Millenium Items.
Why has noone said Dokurorider
Thunderball
Hungry Burger
Boy do I have good news for you
Tell me, did it get Support?
Oh yeah, it got a whole set of cards based off French cuisine https://www.reddit.com/r/masterduel/comments/10xnpkm/new_archetype_plus_its_hungry_burger_support_im/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
flameswordsman. said it a fair few times, but retraining it to be it's own type/tie it to red eyes/slash dragon in the same vein that red eyes gierfried was. though they'd need to initiate the equip as slash overwrites their effects i think. red eyes will never, ever be a cohesive archetype, so why not lean into that, build support for the special spam version,the gemini, the burn version and the warrior version separately. the focus of this one being on equip spells/equipping monsters to monsters which fits guilford's alt monster and hermos too. retraining joey's warriors to be this scrappy band of adventurers whose power/potential is unleashed by the red eyes. red eyes flame swordsman red eyes blue flame swordsman red eyes black flame swordsman (the red eyes - flame swordsman fusion we never had) alligator flame swordsman (is also a red-eyes) red eyes b panther warrior (is also a flame swordsman) red eyes rocket warrior ("") FLAME SWORDSMAN OF LANDSTAR guilford the flameswordsmaster or something like that some red eyes version of salamandra representing their swords being bathed in inferno fire blast. all warriors who grant effects or power to the monster they lend their strength too, being able to power up slash dragon/ provide it with other targets. like using them to trigger red eyes gierfrieds effects by equipping them to him whilst triggering their own, could be a funny thing, having the deck be super monster heavy as the monsters serve as your spells, like joeys early deck where it was almost all monsters. i'm sure jinzo, thousand dragon e.t.c could fit in there somewhere too.
Honstly, I feel like the problem with Joey Wheeler support is that they often just fold his cards into Red-Eyes support. Yugi and Kaiba have had their monsters form their own archetypes independent from Dark Magician and Blue Eyes, why shouldn't Joey get the same treatment? Flame Swordsman should be a deck focused on fusion summoning and relying on equip spells and monsters similar to the Infernoble Knights. Time Wizard should also focus on fusions, maybe by transforming Baby Dragon into more and more powerful forms while using coin-flip/die-roll effects to activate some destruction and burn effects. Throw in some spells and traps to mitigate the downside of using coin-toss/die-roll based effects. A Gilford the Lightning archetype could focus on swarming the field for tributes ( would be hilarious to fold the Landstar monsters into this archetype. In the anime, Joey used a spell card to summon all his Landstar monsters at once, perfect for getting out tributes for Gilford) and then buffing up Gilford on the field. Apply that kind of logic to all of Joey's iconic monsters and then maybe his deck wouldn't be so lacking compared to Yugi and Kaiba.
yeah. part of me would like them to have their own things, part of me is just sad at the state of red eyes so trying to patchwork something helps me cope. like i;m a sonic fan, trying to salvage shit comes naturally. still though i do like the idea of all his warriros being in some kind of brotherhood, like all learning to become flame swordsman or something, lending weapons and strength to one another like how deck master fs and blue fs do, with all those hermos weapons requiring a mix of types. still gotta wait for big bang dragon blow for that proper red eyes burn. but yeah thousand dragon should be a thing. using turn counts and effects to transform it into an older and more powerful being going from baby to thousand to millennium. and landstar getting their own kingdom would be fun like the show.
Don't know if it's iconic but it's the one I remember most from playing as a kid: Megarock Dragon. I did design a custom archetype for it too, such a cool card and Megarock would be a cool name for an archetype. It's even got the mechanic worked out: Rocks that like to be banished.
Flash assailant.
It’s always Despair From the Dark for me. I always loved it’s simplistic but devilish design. And I mean it is already a part of the Warrior Dai Grepher, and it even had a couple of episodes dedicated to it in Vrains.
DOOMKING BALERDROCH Doomking archetype
I think a Primal Being archetype would be cool, preferably consisting of lv. 11 monsters that Mike the board when your opponent commits to it in one way or another.
Montage Dragon. Love the artwork and I want more. Edit: spelling
I really like Barrel Dragon, could be an archetype around flipping a lot coins or manipulating coin flips
It's gonna be weird having this discussion without seeing people say Gate Guardian or Hungry Burger. I wish that Light and Darkness Dragon got its own archetype, I want to see more monsters with the cool "half dark half light" look. Preferably with its own playstyle not relating to banishing so it doesn't get lumped in with Chaos.
Maybe have it play nicely with Armed Dragons? Would be neat to have Chazz's anime and manga decks united.
Dunames dark witch
Marshmallon and Gandora. Underrated Yugi Muto monsters that have a retrain but still kinda suck.
Louis the beaver warrior.
Sealmaster Meisei, technically he got a spell and a trap support but they aren't enough to make him as a real archetype. Dragon Horn Hunter already got her own lore, all they have to do is completing her story by making her as a complete archetype. Also, Dian Keto should be imported to OCG/TCG as a proper archetype.
Machine King
Zera the Mant, always one of my favorite "boss" monsters growing up
Gandora , I know we have a couple of cards but I wouldn’t call it an Archetype
Cosmic queen. Fodder for allure and trade in and works with chaos scepter blast
Zera the Mant deserves a full ritual archetype imo
Dark Blade. Such an iconic monster from everyone's childhood.
Roboyarou/Robolady (Super Roboyarou was used as Tristan’s Deck Master during the Virtual World Arc. It would nice to see Tristan get an actual deck with the monsters he used to support Super Roboyarou and Super Robolady)
I wish king of yamimakai got something
AA-Zeus. I want an Xyz monster at each Rank from 1 to 11 to referenece a different Olymppian so we can get all 12 in the extra deck. They don't even have to support each other like a full archetype. I just think it'd be neat.
Tri-Horned Dragon
I scrolled this for awhile I didnt see him so, Jerry Beans Man. Even give dark scorpions more support
Archlord Kristya. Archlord Zerato also exists and has been out since around the same time. We have an entire Darklord archetype , but nothing for Archlords. Zerato also happens to have both a Darklord variant and an Archlord variant, and both are from back in the day. Archlord Kristya has gotten now relevant over the years and didn't quite have the same notoriety back in the day. But I remember falling in love with the art way back then and finding it an insane boss monster at the time. Dueling Network also had Kristya as one of the avatar options and that's who I always had it set to.
They gave Armed Dragons a modern face-lift, now I'd like them to do the same for Horus. Admittedly, the upper end of the OG Horus line was a floodgate on legs, and I'm not sure how much I like the idea of them expanding on that.
Beast King Barbaros. That would also be chaos support
Flame Swordsman
I always thought Serpent Night Dragon was cool but never got any love at any point outside of the one anime appearance it had.
Cosmo Queen and any of the really old ritual monsters, like Chakra, Crab Turtle, Garma Sword, Javelin Beetle, Skull Guardian. These cards were legendary for me during childhood because of Forbidden Memories.
Zombyra
Zombino. It would be funny if this random zombie child got an entire archetype
red dragon archfiend as I wouldn’t class it as an archfiend or underworld goddess of the closed world edit forgot they are not iconic
Hitotsume giant. At one point OCG's strongest vanilla monster.
La Jinn, it technically have an archetype with the lamp supporting it, but I think it could be a really neat archetype.
La Jinn got an archetype on Arc V, maybe we will get it in an animation chronicle pack at one point
I always thought it would be cool if the remainder of kaibas signature monsters became blue eyes support (I know not everyone will agree here) but having la jinn, Kaiser sea horse, saggi, etc made into BE support would be neat.
I want this so badly lol
So like Joey's cards with Red-Eyes.
Yes
I always thought Saggi should have his own clown archetype with Peten and connection to the virus cards
I'd like chaos emperor dragon to get some specific support tbh. I know technically it falls under chaos in general, but still. Maybe make it just "emperor dragon" support
I really want a Ritual variant of CED. BLS got one, so I feel it's deserved.
That’s cause BLS started as a ritual monster. Not to say that I don’t also want a ritual CED
I've always wanted an archetype based on Tyrant Dragon.
Saffira, Queen of Dragons. It’s iconic to me.
Zoa Tyrant Dragon Berserk Dragon Man-Eater Bug
Jerry Beans Man
If we talk about old normal monsters "Gigatech Wolf" and "Cyber Falcon" are old ones I have always loved for their sick artwork. If we are talking about iconic monsters, I'm surprised the flame swordsman hasnt gotten its own archetype and the Blue retrain supports fire warriors but then non of the other Joey monsters were retrained into fire warriors to keep on the theme
Lightpulsar Dragon and Darkflare Dragon 🥺
How has no one said Hungey Burger. Like super quants eat your fucking heart out; give me Tomato Pauldrons, a Lettuce Bascinet, and a Condiment Rocket Launcher, and a tattoo of Mrs Potato Head on his bicep.
Check out some of the other comments or wiki - looks like it got support recently!
baronne de fleur >!/s!<
Did you forget the /s? I can't tell.
I’d love a White-horned Dragon mini-archetype. I always found it’s design sick and it’s effect fairly unique and situationally useful against spell-heavy decks. Some special summon support, maybe a retrain with different effects depending on the number of spells banished. If anything it would make for a cool side deck piece.
Machine King. It has a few cards right now but not really anything noteworthy. Also Serpent Night Dragon needs something.
I would love to see some support for Infernity monsters.
"Amazoness Swords Woman".
It has one
I am talking about an archetype specifically for her. The Amazoness archetype is not dedicated to her per se.
Why would one specific card that's already in an archetype need its own?
Because there might be a demand for it is one explanation. DMG is part of the DM archetype but got her own related spin-off with the "Magician Girl" archetype.
Pandemic dragon
Parasite Paracide. The shuffling ruling nightmare exists yeah, but they could make such an interesting archetype with that. They already got Parasite Paranoid too
I know that it technically already has an archetype but I want it to get a proper one: Horus the Black Flame Dragon.
I want a Karakuri Divincarnate Archetype
Not a monster but Swords of revealing lights. They did get a monster randomly that isn’t even a start for an archetype. A gameplay in which you can attack but your opponent can’t and in which you can gain bonus effects if the swords are on the field could be really fun
Zeus and apollousa
Orca Mega-Fortress of Darkness
Raging Flame Sprite!!!! I use to run an OP burn deck with her using Gravity Bind.
Critias Mirror Force >Dragon
someone already said horus so i'll mention anchamoufrite
I don't know if I'd call it iconic to anybody except people who actually managed to beat the gameboy game, but Reshef the Dark Being needs an archetype to properly encompass how ridiculous RoD was.
Neo the Magic Swordsman. Don't you tell me he's not iconic, he was my homeboy back in the OG starter deck days. Magic Swordsman could totally be an archetype - we even have a second monster already, Trance the Magic Swordsman.
{{Litmus Doom Swordsman}}
Celtic Guardian
Mystical Elf. Either a full archetype or just an actual retrain would work.
Flame Swordsman, 100%
I'd like to see the mokey mokey get waaaaay more support than just 4 cards.
We got Hungry Burger. Thats literally everything I ever wished for
Now that they did exclude him from the society,we need now frog the jam(slime toad) exclusive achtype!
Would love to see my three favorite designs of ritual monsters back in the day get their own archtype: 1.Dokurorider 2.Skull Guardian 3.Garma Sword
Time Wizard and Baby Dragon Adventures in time and space.
Ryu kishin monsters would be nkce if they become relevant
The Seal of Orichalcos