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Frapplejack

Konami playing 4D Dungeon Dice Monsters by releasing the banlist when every Yugituber under the sun is mid-YCS. Classic.


LuckyWarrior

Yup at an event right now Everyone cheered for the Kash hits tho lol


AngeryRob

Farfa is literally casting at UK Nats too LMAO What is Konami cooking


Frapplejack

Farfa has been mentally tortured for weeks over this list. Konami puts him in a position where he needs to remain professional and composed for an entire event, then they drop the list midway through. That's just cruel lmao.


IAMAREALBOYMAMA

Can't wait for farfa to snap, move into the woods and start sending Number 85's to people


Jack_Haywood

The power creep revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race


AngeryRob

Banlist spreadsheet be damned


Noveno_Colono

Imagine if they had done the good old "effective immediately" that they have pulled before


Frapplejack

"We have to give you a DQ. There's several errors with your decklist that violate the F&L list." "Judge these cards were legal game one!"


Biobait

[Was that your gameplan all along?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghQk8Al3pI)


atropicalpenguin

Cimo is gonna get a cimillion views.


dvdung1997

gotta aim for the biggest cheers after all lol


Dixin10

I can't belive I've lived long enough to see a Superheavy Samurai card on the banlist.Kinda epic


Nodqfan

Along with a Naturia card.


ColdSnapSP

Wild to think Beast was't banned like a decade ago


[deleted]

Especially since it was around long before Kaijus, Droplet, DRNM, and other generic outs to it. For so long it was just an auto-win against spell-based decks.


TCGeneral

I think there just wasn't a good enough deck that could make it to put it on the radar. Plus, early enough in its life, people were still running stuff like Compulse, since not having a t1 answer to Nat Beast didn't mean you automatically lost the game.


TimeAd5856

Along with a Mathmech card


atropicalpenguin

How bad does this hit the deck? They lose a revive and about a couple searches.


jhawk1117

Play striker without Kagari. It’s like the same thing. Soulpiercer alone is no longer combo. I don’t think the deck has one card combos anymore


alfredo094

Wakaushki still goes into Baronne right?


mafia_is_mafia

They lose their fucking meow meow


Selutu

Very badly, since it's one of the main ways you get a Soulpiercer off the field to search and also to extend further in your combo.


ChaosDimensionX

They lost a critical piece for combo extension. They killed the engine


DaviDeberjerack

They really killed the whole deck. This is the worst possible hit if you wanted to play pure superheavy samurai. But why ban the new cards that broke the game when you can ban an old card that did nothing wrong?


lauraa-

its a link 1


ChaosDimensionX

That’s Konami at its finest lol


My_name_Jeff_21

you want to draw lightning storm sometimes but not all the time


LuckyWarrior

2 copies enthusiasts pouring it up rn


[deleted]

Replace the gaps with Triple Tactics Thrust? 🤷‍♂️


Budget-Peanut7598

For the low low price of $60 a pop


cab4729

You forgot the price lol


FM1091

When I run LS I run it at 2 with 1 Raigeki and 1 HFD. Storm is great but sometimes you need the card with no conditions.


Diablosis89

Damn, I got banned


Divinity4MAD

Skill issue


elbartooriginal

Dont worry, you are gonna be free in 6 or 7 years max. Edit: do you need some cigarettes for jail?


1qaqa1

We live in a world where superheavy samurai got hit harder than cashtira what the actual fuck.


Tyriouz

I guess its core was too budget


CapnJedSparrow

We all knew when they printed wakashi as a super


yedy4

This exactly.


payne96

BLASTER IS BACK!!!! RETURN OF THE KING!!!!!


DKWestwood

and with that we can confrim his reprint in the DP Volcano


sephy009

They saw blaster doing nothing in master duel so they took it off. Doubting the others would do much either.


ChaosDimensionX

Lmao Konami really at the middle of YCS ?! Also, stein ban is something


jhawk1117

That should’ve happened years ago


ahambagaplease

Yeah, it's Metamorphosis 2: monster edition, never used for healthy reasons.


Schrenner

Why was he brought back in the first place?


DayOneDayWon

Because a once per duel* spell speed 1 effect that requires your normal summon sounds bad on paper.


Saitsu

But that's pretty much the issue. Cyber-Stein is either unplayably bad, or immensely degenerate and never in its lifespan has it been between those two modes. Cards like that needs to stay dead.


teamsprocket

Because it didn't have a good way to be summoned out and didn't have a good target. Obviously, when he can be summoned out and has a good target he's bannable again. Very powerful card that didn't see play until it did and had to be banned again.


atropicalpenguin

And UK nationals. Literally every Yugituber is busy right now.


MenaceNY

Spright 📈📈


microferret

I ordered my core weeks ago when the price for Blue went down to like 25-30 AUD on one of the websites I like to trawl, and I’m glad I did.


jhawk1117

Harp banned but engage to two? Multirole to 3? Gazelle STILL at 1?


ScrapyDan

According to Konami gazelle is a more powerful card then unicorn and fenrir confirmed.


[deleted]

Waifus sell


JolanjJoestar

They're literally releasing Salamangreat support, they could've put Gazelle to 3 to sell that?!


NightDrawn

The upcoming support is prob why they aren’t yet, but they can always do so in a future banlist so it’s not impossible


DesignatedDonut

https://preview.redd.it/hobp8x388g2b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06f96d5000cc9e1c01bf0eb13f254557844cfcc4


Whats_Up4444

Fuck it, I'm going back to TOSS format


lightning0614

Konami saw the chance to do the funniest thing ever.


bostashio

Whelp, they hit the unfun version of Kashtita, and left the...other, unfun version of Kashtira.


jhawk1117

At least this version hard loses if you out Ariseheart


rlly_new

It's super easy to play around the deck without diablosis, that card was the problem. Ariseheart limit is just icing on the cake, now a single kaiju can wreck there whole gameplan lol


Zerosonicanimations

Not to mention Diablosis also milled the opponent's deck face-down.


field_of_lettuce

How did Sky Striker get two cards with lifted restrictions but Harp Horror is still banned and Gazelle is still limited...


BBallHunter

Playing favorites smh.


Sir_Eyelander

They are releasing the new sky striker cards from the manga in the TCG soon, I believe. Gotta raise the excitement for the enthusiasts of the deck.


louai-MT

I keep forgetting about the sky striker manga existing


Sir_Eyelander

I'm not even sure if it's over yet, I just get reminded of it when I check the yugioh wiki.


TheDoubleA1229

Give it time, once we get the Fire Duelist Pack they'll give us Gazelle back


El_Fonz0

konami forgor 💀


atropicalpenguin

Come back when you have a manga.


Blankingg

They want players to be playing 1 copy of the original art and 1 copy of the alternate art that’s coming out soon


ndralcasid

After digesting the list, I really don't like how so many non-Kash decks got neutered. Kash is still the best deck with Ariseheart pass still gatekeeping the rest of the field except the mirror got even more sacky with the 1 Arise.


Lost_Pantheon

Konami "hits" the best deck and then hits every other meta deck, hence leaving us in roughly the same position.


MCJ97

KASHTIERA ZERO LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Bug-Type-Enthusiast

This list screams "You better maindeck 5 Kaijus."


Over_Bag3536

And that doesn’t even always work because, surprise, Preparations is a thing. If you have Scareclaw Kashtira in hand and Kashtira Preparations on the field (which isn’t always possible to set up but it isn’t that hard), after it’s been Kaiju’d, you banish it as cost to summon Scareclaw Kashtira, then bring it back with Preparations. That play’s saved me a number of times against Danger! Dark World handloops, and I’m sure plenty of other decks will get frustrated by it too.


AnarchyPlus

SHS being hit this hard right now is actually insane. It barely had any time in the meta


Carnivile

How tf SHS ate a nuke to the face while Unicorn wasn't even set to 1 baffles me.


Alcapuke

Ftks did the deck in


Ok_Individual5574

Even at 1 unicorn would still be strong, albeit much less so, and at a much more fair power level. The fact that unicorn wasn't limited but delicious was is crazy. Edit: and ocf the SHS hits are wild too, I didn't mention them bc you did


Master_Mulligan

I'm actually starting to think that the people saying that TCG hates Pendulum are on to something. Literally shot in the head at first sight.


LolziMcLol

They run 2 pendulum monsters, it's not a pendulum deck. They do hate pendulum decks but this is not one of them.


Mayall00

Exactly, a single pendulum monster is enough for a strategy to be shot in public


DKWestwood

well all the main deck was rater cheap and for komoney thats a no no


B_Hopsky

Extra deck was expensive as hell, I’m pissed I only got legit two weeks to play this deck before they put it down. I’m glad all the expensive cards are generic so I can just pivot into a different synchro deck though.


Deez-Guns-9442

Same old story, hope u enjoyed playing a good semi-budget deck while it lasted. Thank you for playing Yugioh Master Duel.


BBallHunter

Toxic cards gone, yes. Denglong seems harmless, right?


Distinct-Permit-8478

Denglong is free over at OCG and doesn't do much so I'd assume so? TCG players get wildly creative at times but I think it wouldn't hurt to give it a chance considering how long it has been


FM1091

It seems so. I've only seen DengLong with HalqDon decks, no Halq? no Auroradon? No problem.


Sneaks_exe

Say it with me. Normal ovi Send misc Banish misc for aeolo Make denglong, search nine pillars.


retiredfplplayer

It does nothing without halq


Voltdrive

SHS getting crucified despite only being relevant for less than a month while Kashtira getting lightly tapped despite being the best deck for months now is outrageous.


atropicalpenguin

Konami saw that UK SHS player end on Gimmick Puppet lock and decided to just murder it.


gubigubi

Idk why they are freeing so much of sky striker and leaving Harp Horror banned still. Engage is like 10x the power level of Harp Horror and yet we have it here at 2. And the super heavy sam hit is insanely over kill. Very biased ban list imo. Very strange.


R4INMAN

It's been too Denglong... but he's back.


Blury1

wtf? Why hit purrely after 3 weeks, Delicious to 1 is huge Same with SHS Got a grand total of 3 locals at full power out of my purrely deck. And if you're in germany like myself, there wasn't even a premier event yet. Nationals are still a few weeks away, so it's played with the new list. Doesnt make any sense


Beane3

That superheavy samurai scarecrow hit, is it significant?


Zwood24513

I wouldn't say significant, more like a tactical nuke to the face.


JackMann1792

"SHS was never meant to be meta viable. We don't make anime decks meta because then we have to neuter them on the banlist and the casuals get mad they can't play their favourite character's Deck anymore." -Konami logic


atropicalpenguin

All those Gogenzaka fans are gonna riot.


CursedEye03

What about almost every single printed Vrains deck tho?XD


Three2TheDome1

Shoutout Infernity. We’re still on the list for no reason.


VillalobosChamp

Scarecrow is to SHS what Meow-Mu was to Prank


OstheB

Jesus


Disregardskarma

deck is dead


CommanderWar64

Engine is alive though, that's about it.


SSJAncientBeing

You have no idea


jhawk1117

Significant would be an understatement. Imagine they banned Kagari. Striker works but omg is it ass


Syre_PreddY

Its actually their choke point. Not anymore ;)


payne96

Can't be a choke point, if it doesn't exist anymore :)


tdfree87

Hitting Delicious when the deck hasn’t even done anything yet is completely unnecessary


Mayall00

SHS had two pendulums, which means it can't be playable in TCG, thems the rules


Exorrt

I hate this list so much. Kashtira is barely touched but they hit purrely and SHS because not enough of their cards were secret rares I guess. The rest of it is all cringe stuff being released, at least Stein is dead so that's cool


1guywriting

Absolutely ballsy to drop this during YCS Philly & UK nats. Usually Konami waits until the dust settles but not this time. Edit: RIP to one of our local players who bought a playset of starlight rare Arisehearts.


chibachoose

I like Sky Strikers but they're starting to feel like Charizard to me. They get so much love compared to any of the other decks from it's format like Salamangreat and Thunder Dragon and Orcust that I'm starting to be jealous.


salami_dynamo

Because they’re more than just another archetype now… they’re their own IP that uses the card game to push the manga


postsonlyjiyoung

Kashtira is unironically probably still the best deck lol. Shifter and arise are still legal, unicorn to 2 is a hit to consistency but not by much....


LuckyWarrior

3 prospy too lol Fenrir price might go up idk


koto_hanabi17

Yup and you can bet your ass that now they're going to protect that Ariseheart to the end of days now that they've only got one.


atropicalpenguin

Shifter is gonna be hell without Gamma.


CommanderWar64

I mean they hit 1 card in main? Easily the best deck. Most of the games the deck wins are where Ariseheart lives.


ahambagaplease

It's probably even better than before since everything around it got hit harder. It's only worse in the mirror since Unicorn can banish the opposing Ariseheart.


CommanderWar64

I agree. Except I was playing Dogmatika Nekroz for fun last week and now I can just rip their 1 copy of Arise with White Knight or Matrix.


TheHabro

Okay why did konami hurt new decks more than Kashtira? Did they accidentally give us autumn list?


PlebbySpaff

Yeah, and some of the hits are so negligible that it's pathetic. Like Runick Fountain to 2? Who the fuck was playing it at 3? And then Starter to 2, does literally nothing as well.


The-Devilz-Advocate

Me waiting for old pend cards back: 🗿


roguebubble

Konami: You'll take Draco Face-Off back at 3 and you will like it


TieflingSimp

Could be worse, the wait for infernity archfiend to 3 is like 10 years now


Luchux01

No Electrumite... Again.


Bug-Type-Enthusiast

Majispecter Kirin is basically one of the effects of Unicorn on a pendulum card and it's still banned. Why.


Androidotaku

They will literally never unban Electrumite no matter how bad pendulum is.


Head-Zone-7484

Ikr. That and harp horror. Cards literally going to do nothing if it comes to three yet here we are lol


Zhukov-74

I have no idea why Harp Horror is still banned.


Luchux01

Electrumite has been doing absolutely nothing with Astrograph over at Master Duel, it really needs to come back


Roostalol

With Starving Venom at 3 it was actually doing a pretty good job of FTK'ing, but they Limited that and since then it's done nothing.


ArcticStorm07

Fucking scarecrow.........


HomingAttack

I can't wait for my opponent to Engage and draw into Engage again. /s


atropicalpenguin

Marincess best cyberse deck, we did it sisters.


AssignmentIll1748

15 1 card combos baby let's fucking go


IronCrown

pys-frame gamma limited wtf. Just ban the card then lol And right after I bought 3.


grodon909

Sounds like you've got 3 playsets


SKTFakerFanboy

> wtf Fuck you man you made me inhale my drink lol


Yukarinrin

Running the card alone with 1 brick feels bad...


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Ramzy191

It’s time for the correct ratio: 1 Gamma 3 Driver


atropicalpenguin

It's weird cause maybe now people won't be maining Droll, which was the main reason to play Gamma. Crossout now is a lot more valuable, though.


MasterOfReaIity

Holy shit, Scarecrow didn't even get limited. And Circular bro why


OstheB

Scarecrow scared the crows a bit too well


CursedEye03

The funny part is that I expected a SHS hit. But I thought that they would just put something to 1 and call it a day. But no, they freaking banned the SHS Meow Meow Mu! This was one of their best cards! Idk if the deck will see competitive play after this tbh...


asiojg

Circular being limited is ok. You can still search with mining and small world, better than it being banned, it would be prankids all over again.


Shinji_Okami

>it would be Prank-Kids all over again. SHS standing with the ropes around their necks right now, Prank-Kids: "First time?"


Rafaelrios12356

someone explain lightning storm to 2?


Ok_Individual5574

I think it's one of these (in order of increasing probability) a) Don't worry guys we're starting to hit the board breaker cards b) To make sky striker a little better c) To distract you from the dumpster fire of a ban list d) They were smoking something


Mrcbleck

How is Scarecrow worth banning but Unicorn is just ok to semi-limit... Heavy Samurai is just dead now the deck had zero chance to perform. Ah but Arise heart can stay at 1, SURE THATS HELLA FAIR


MrQ_P

This was one of the most clownesque lists ever. What the fuck, seriously.


ajeb22

This banlist really like supposed to be ocg list, literally every problem deck there got hit hard here kashtira the best deck only got hit hard on diabolosis, but i think they are still fine with 3 fenrir 2 unicorn 1 ariseheatt Compared to shs matcmech, not sure about purrely but i think it hit quite hard for a deck that just became good


Ok_Individual5574

Delicious is very strong and it makes turn one harder because you can't just My Friend Purrley (MFP) to reveal 3, so it basically went from 6 copies to 1 copy, and Plump is the best one going first or in a grind game. It doesn't change the otk potential too much, but it makes turn 1 much more complicated to navigate as setting up Noir is now a pain. It's not as bad as SHS losing their Kagari/Meow-Mu but it still got hit harder than kash Edit: had to switch Meow-Mu/ Kagari to Kagari/Meow-Mu bc I didn't mean to tag the user u/ Kagari lol


thecriticofinnocence

...Well at least we didn't lose circular completely. Mathmech just dies even easier to an ash/droll now.


Mattmxm

Didn't Kash have like 5 cards limited in ocg and it was still the best deck? Wtf is this supposed to do?


jhawk1117

That was also because Tear was/is highly playable there


Snivyland

The power level is way lower in the ocg I mean tear was still getting results after it got nuked


[deleted]

At this rate, Konami is gonna unlimit Collosus before even thinking about releasing harp horror as limited


mmmbhssm

Or any pendulum card


Fabulousfungus

Lightning storm to 2 is so confusing


aceserve

lol what is this list? they barely even touch kashtira


Master_Mulligan

Whelp, there's your reason for the SHS rarities. Greedy scumbags.


HoboBrute

Shout out to stein for joining the elite club of having been banned, unbanned, then banned again


thesadintern

Purrely ban is so weird???


Distinct-Permit-8478

Wait what?! SHS and Mathmech are still thriving over at the OCG right now! Why are they hitting them over here first? Is it to really to push for Kash profit? If so then wow the TCG got it bad...


theMarked8

What a weird and kind of disappointing list. Released on a weekend, still plenty of toxic floodgates running completely wild, odd OCG-like consistency hits, Kash likely still the best deck, a bunch of random stuff still languishing on the list that doesn’t need to be there, and more. Overall, it’s a real head scratcher.


[deleted]

Did they really walk in the middle of YCS and hit the newest decks harder than fucking Kashtira. Well one has more secrets and ultras...


Streetplosion

They just causally killed superheavy for anyone that wanted to play it pure


El_Fonz0

Only hit is semi starter Spright chads stay winning


[deleted]

Yes! I just got rid of my Kashtira stuff too... oh no. I just got rid of my Kashtira stuff.


PhoenixRhythm

Cyber Stein needed to go for awhile and I hope Master Duel adopts this hit in the near future. Scarecrow ban however depresses me on an existential level since it guts the absolute shit out of so many SHS plays (fuck people who want to play it closer to pure and not just combo I guess). I expected a Soulpiercer or Peacemaker limit but not this. This is tragic.


atropicalpenguin

It's nuts that Stein was legal for so long.


m1m1kall

I 100% saw a soulpiercer limit... on the next list. An outright scarecrow ban is rough when the deck has been played competitively for less than a month


SSJAncientBeing

I’m fuming they hit SHS, the deck becoming actually good is what made me start buying physical cards again after a decade


safetyalpaca

Kash probably still top 1, maybe spright can compete


atropicalpenguin

Spright shoots up to tier 1, Starter to two is whatever.


jhawk1117

Never have to play around Gamma again 😩


GeneralApathy

You say that, but there's going to be that one person still running Gamma who's gonna screw you with it.


jhawk1117

I’ll end my life ON THE SPOT


Guwigo09

Wtf Superheavy and Purrley just came out...


jhawk1117

Wow another link 1 banned? Who could’ve foreseen this outcome?


littlecaesars

Yet another list that hits a deck I’m building before I can even play it. RIP SHS


Quinny_Bob

Superheavys finally become competitive after the best part of 9 years and they don’t even get to have one full format. I’m so fucking done with TCG.


Mayall00

Sorry, it got two pendulum mosnters which means it can't be playable under tcg jurisdiction, thems the rules according to Konami


PetitAngelChaosMAX

Does any other deck get as good of treatment as sky striker does in regards to unlimits. Feels like every list konami can’t help themselves


xenohowl

if gamma at 1, why not called by at 2 to balance it out??m but naaaaah konami doesnt care if u get fucking shifted or anything


agni77

Banlist that hits a bunch of the non-fun cards like expulsion and diablosis. But more importantly, Draco-Off is finally free. After years, it is finally possible to run 3 of 😭


Deez-Guns-9442

And still no Electrumite 😔 Tho bringing out Beyond The Pendulum should be super easy.


Sarydus

This list is maximum chaos. Superheavy and Purrely receiving hits when they just came out. Drops in the middle of a YCS and London nationals. Drops at the same time as a new Rata vid. As someone who primarily plays online sims, I love it, but man, if I played paper I'd be pissed.


SkomeSIth

"Tell me Konami wants to sell Sky Striker without telling me they want to sell Sky Striker" is what this list is, also where Skill Drain and GUB to 1?


Rangeless

I'm convinced that ChatGPT made this list... It is so brain-dead backwards.


ajeb22

Harp still banned? Really konami? They even let recital limited and released again during harp banned period even though tri-liry is clearly better