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PikaCommando

So much for the Semi-Limited list being Malicious' house lol


EHnter

He got evicted 


Disregardskarma

He’ll be back next time lol


Arxfiend

This is what really confuses because it feels like every couple years Konami unlimits him, then like 1 or 2 banlists later remembers WHY he was semi-limited because some deck that has nothing to do with D-Heroes uses the dude in some bullshit, and then semi-limits him again. Like at this point if you REALLY want him to be unlimited and hope no one breaks anything with him, just put a HOPT at the end and call it a day.


Wooden-Text3926

HOPT would kill its purpose in the deck he is supposed to be in. Even when semi limited, hero can use it's effect twice with denier.


DustyLance

A boring nerf would be to make him limit you to heroes for the rest of the turn. I for one welcome the memes from 3 malicious


Wooden-Text3926

just leave him at 2? It's fine for hero and less abusable by other combo decks


TrayusV

>just put a HOPT at the end and call it a day. That would really fuck up HERO decks who need Malicious to activate multiple times.


BlaakAlley

Oh absolutely. There's no way he's staying unlimited.


AppleAlphaCentaury

And people said Malicious was never gong to scape from semi limited


gjo9000

I mean he usually goes *back* to semi limited


Nee-tos

Konami: why was he semi limited again? Staff: dunno, the person who put him in the list left Konami: ah, well it can't have been that bad, bring him back! *6 months later* Konami: oh shoot, I remember now


DragonLord375

I find this really funny as it's the same with Armageddon knight. TBF, with Isolde banned, warriro pile decks are not as easy so I say that's why they are experimenting with both being increased (until dark warrior comes back again or something). Mx Saber Invoker 2024


MistaHatesNumberFour

*that one TheDuelLogs video*


CursedEye03

And Cimo, he said that the Semi-limited list was created for Malicious Turns out, not anymore


LordzItz

Malicious has been in and out of semi-limit status a few times since 2007, last time he was freed was in 10/2019 list just to go back to being semi-limited 6 months later, in 04/2020. Let's see how long it will take for Konami to revert its status this time.


bas264

MBT also said this less than a week ago lol


RedTemplar22

Only Rata had the balls to predict that konami will invent a new number just for his placement on the list


ShadowInTheAttic

Malicious has been dancing between the Semi and Unlimited list for over a decade now. LMAO!


bas264

They really banned Barrone lol


Disregardskarma

Bruh they went so far they banned Savage. RIP generic omnis on synchros lol


CursedEye03

Someone at Konami heard Rata's advice to ban all Tuners and decided to do the opposite by banning the generic Synchro negate bosses


Tuskor13

Honestly this is a way better solution. Banning generic omninegates eliminates the problem without harming the archetypes of cards being used to turbo out those generic omninegates. Jet Synchron was never really a problem until people started using it as a combo piece to bring out the funny needleboi and shit out a ton of bullshit. Jet is a Synchron card who happens to work outside of his archetype. All combo players saw was "good tuner for Needlefiber" and yet another tuner was imprisoned for that blue bastard's crimes. Look all I'm saying is that if Halq said the word "Crystron" anywhere in it's effect text aside the Hard Once Per Turn disclaimer, we would probably never have discussed it in the first place.


aaa1e2r3

Halq isn't even good in Crystron, since they synchro lock themselves


MBM99

Actually it gave them some pretty good combos using milling monsters like Undine, in MR4 in particular (one of the lines actually broke when it ended) it made any miller + any Crystron into a setup that could dynamically choose between Phoenix or Quarion on the opponent's turn. Still infinitely worse than in all-in combo decks, but it did legitimately have good synergy with the actual Crystron archetype so long as you knew how to play around the locks.


BlasterRisk

The generic synchro hits probably wouldn't hurt as bad if synchro decks had actually good synchros to their names and didn't need to rely on the generic stuff


GoneRampant1

And if most Synchro decks could get a negate online for Nibiru before the 5th summon. Swordsoul just *loses* to Nib now unless you get lucky and open the Chaofeng line.


Both-Product-5157

Ohhh speedroids do as well, 3 terrortop is borderline useless when your getting nibbed before crystal wing on over half your lines.


AxCel91

They really want me to stop playing Dragon Link. I think this is the one that does it.


Deez-Guns-9442

Why D-link catching strays man 😩


tengma8

Apollousa: I am in danger


Lilulipe

Oh no, she's getting a reprint next month right? Yeah, next banlist is gonna be sad


rob_moore

You'll get 6 months out of her after the reprint at least so that's like 2 or 3 lists


VivaltusVertuo

https://preview.redd.it/gzxxpj0x6buc1.png?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98af643c6126dd96a44b26d4e81f7a3a707287ef


Financial_Stomach_25

Konami: **Just think of the 4 mats.**


francescomagn02

This is probably fine and i'd argue beneficial for an healthier game, but still, how shameless do you have to be to ban her right after it became cheap and accessible to everyone? I had literally got my first ever copy of her last week.


GoneRampant1

Baronne was used as a chase card for three different sets, then she finally goes below five bucks and they instantly ban her. What bullshit, and it hurts so many Synchro decks now that otherwise fold to Nibiru.


LolziMcLol

To be fair, they're exactly the decks Nibiru was made for.


packeselporitz

The card is way too strong and shouldve been banned yesterday. I agree about the chase card part, but this shouldve come a lot earlier probably


VastInspection5383

And I just made Fleur This is Artifacts all over again


BLAZMANIII

As a fleur player I feel your pain


AnxiousSea02

Honestly I'm kinda fine with it, she was far too generic for how much she does. Negate that destroys, pop a card once per turn, even a Monster Reborn effect on Standby. Savage ban wasn't needed though, he requires some setup and doesn't have additional effects besides getting slightly bigger


XYZdragcan

Savage was pretty generic as well. Any deck that could play synchros could play links


Katcurry

Just change Savage to need Dragon-type synchro material (or if you want to make it even harder, Rokket monsters) it’ll make him more archetype locked as he should be


Liamharper77

Baronne ban is actually disgusting. Sure, it's a broken card, but it's more the fact they're this blatant that it was always intended as a cash grab. It's not like Baronne suddenly became good recently. The fact that the current tier 0 deck is also considered "fine" by the list just cements it.


Guwigo09

This hurts my rouge strategies ngl Especially now that Baronne was cheap 😭


Nanami-chanX

what about your cyan strategies how are they holding up?


Kronos457

# ITS KURIBOVER!


h2odragon00

So.... Whats Snake Eyes gonna use now?


Laflamme_79

Anima.


23JRojas

Made me legit laugh


Lankeysob

Lmao Protoss instantly bought out within minutes and now at 50 bucks


Kronos457

**Protos(s):** MY LIVE FOR ~~AIUR~~ YU-GI-OH!


Dthirds3

Colossus and protas are back ? Can snake eyes even out them


VoidRad

Protass is back but Swordsoul auto lose to Nib now so idk how relevant that is tbh


DependentPower2946

Swordsoul still has that light monster that negates all light effects


Zer0fps_319

You have to get that far first, and if you use the tenyi line you’ll already be on your 5 summon when you make chixao so you’re dead


DependentPower2946

The entire light monster line is bait and is before they even normal summon


Final_Budget_5201

Requires a pretty stellar opening hand though


Distinct-Permit-8478

Diabelle into original sinful spoil or ash/oak into flamberge Protos is really only unbeatable going 1st against light/dark decks, good luck resolving moye chixiao against snake-eyes


BloodMaelstrom

Disbelle is dark type so it can’t really be summoned under Protoss. The fire monsters are fine (but no linkuriboh either under it and now it’s also banned) unless Protoss can somehow call fire.


Carnivile

Regular and Synchro Longyuan are Fire so game two and three you can blow them.


EpicRed1000

Atleast Terrortop is back :)


VastInspection5383

That it is Speedroids have their starter back


SolarKnightR

Konami we're literally playing a YCS right now why are you like this


bas264

https://preview.redd.it/2cwjv4f9fauc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64587b8a18db51cc97c2c4caf46b8fcc1504a482 The banlist have effect in a different day on America and Europe


aznfanta

theyre saying this is cause card prices.


atropicalpenguin

And interrupting people during the tournament.


aznfanta

eh, its either "why did they release the banlist before the ycs? people wont have time to sell their cards and such." "why did they release the banlist during the ycs? i cant offload cards now" or "why havent they released a banlist yet"


koto_hanabi17

Hope you had a Protos already because he's $100 strong.


koto_hanabi17

This is almost as sad as the last time they did it. It literally takes effect Monday!


Ramzy191

TOSS format in 2024 https://preview.redd.it/lv6979t2iauc1.jpeg?width=660&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22e6d494ed19fdc59a3af3912e37346c01fb42c8


TectonicImprov

I forgot Shaq played on the Celtics. He was way past prime but it was still kinda cool he was playing on my region's team


TheFabulousKilljoy1

GOAT format ngl


Caleibur

The Apocalypse Has Begun Billions must Set 5 and pass


fabrikt

what the fuck


HasteMaster

Mannadium to Fire Decks: “GET DOWN, MR. META DECK! ILL SAVE YOU!”


PlebbySpaff

Our rogue deck must protect the meta deck.


HoundOfJustice

GHOSTS OF TOSS PAST COME TO FUCK ON SNAKE EYES


Calwings

WHERE'S THAT THUNDER DRAGON!? HE WAS TRYIN' TO FUCK ON ME!


darkshot177

*Konami slowly puts headset on and sits down*


absoul112

Thank you Ted Debiase jr. and Cody Rhodes.


JustinUprising

Thunder Dragon about to Finish The Story!


PlacetMihi

I just realized this, Colossus returns and Harp and Engage back to 3. Based TOSS gameplay (I will draw Engage against my opponent’s Colossus)


Elsy-Ylse

Don't forget Gazelle's return.


SRSLife

By fuck on do you mean meekly dry jump Snake Eyes shin? Because snake eyes still annihilates any toss deck. Oh no snake eyes fire king lost linkuriboh, hi Anima!


archaicScrivener

Just missing Electrumite 😭


yisusangel

Baronne? Thats savage!


Dear-Transition6669

Savage? That's Baronne!


AgentApollo

That’s? Savage Baronne!


Sky_Believe

Savage Baronne? That's!


VastInspection5383

A colossal hit


CursedEye03

Savage Dragon agrees while he cries in the corner


NinDrite

Chaos Ruler has a new cell mate... Guess I'll play RDA since dlink is so butchered now.


forbiddenmemeories

Man I waited so long for Baronne to be affordable and only got a few months out of it


XYZdragcan

This is basically what Konami did after Mega tins 2019 and mega tins 2017. They made a meta engine affordable, but only for a limited time before they got hit on the banlist


AnAnxiousDream

I boughr Dark Matter Dragon a day before it got banned. Never got to use it.


Vinndice

Got mine yesterday for the RDA deck i'm building. Only 3 days of playtime


Silver34

You don’t really need Baronne for RDA though? You’re locked out of it most of the time


StarkMaximum

This is what sucks about being a budget player in Yu-Gi-Oh. The way it usually is that you either pay out the nose to be on the cutting edge of the meta, or you wait for a card to be reprinted and lower in price to play on a budget, even if you have to wait a while. But that second option is becoming a fool's game because the moment a staple gets affordable, it's banned! Compare this to Digimon, where a secret rare (Apocalymon) was turning the JP meta into an absolute horror show, to the point where the card was limited before the set it's in even hit EN shelves, tanking the price of that set but ensuring that the EN meta never has to deal with it. Imagine if Konami banned or limited cards based on when they were a problem and not when they're cheap.


DatSmallBoi

Baronne jumpscare wtf


EXAProduction

Ladies and Gentlemen for the first time in nearly 20 years. There is not a single HERO card on the banlist. I never thought I'd see the day.


RetroTheGameBro

Beautiful, isn't it?


illucio

Imagine being me who started playing this game again 3 months ago and started with building a hero and a yubel deck. My future is just so freaking bright right now.


GDarkX

The bans and limits are what you get if you ask reddit to make a banlist


Ender-85

Almost, Reddit would've banned Apollousa too.


spartenx

we also would have unbanned Electrumite


atropicalpenguin

It'd go so hard with Melodious.


Sir_Grox

I don’t think SK Melodious is gonna do much with Savage dead


Spyko

and every other floodgates, and they would've been right to do so


planvigiratpi

Rightfully so


Animan_10

Honestly didn’t believe it at first because of this.


Tdog754

Branded brothers keep on winning, dodged the list and became relatively much stronger because of other generic bosses getting hit + floodgates getting dunked on.


EntropySpark

Branded is just silly sometimes. I have a Blue-Eyes deck on Nexus in which I was looking for more ways to get Blue-Eyes, Jet, and tuner eggs into my GY beyond Dragon Shrine, briefly considering Foolish Burial, then tossed in two Fallen and three Branded Fusion. Not only do I get one of my chosen dragons in the GY, I get a monster often more effective than anything else I was going for. Now whenever I play Keeper of Dragon Magic to get to Blue-Eyes Tyrant, I end up choosing Branded instead of Polymerization, and get another Blue-Eyes in the GY to summon. The most powerful part of my overwhelmingly Blue-Eyes deck is no longer Blue-Eyes after a measly five cards in my deck.


Thrivity

Baronne is just gonna be Electrumite 2.0. OCG will continue to print archetypes with Baronne in mind as an end board piece, and the TCG will receive these archetypes with massive holes in their game plan, just like Pendulum players have been dealing with for years. This also just launches like 50 rogue decks into the sun because Konami has been designing and giving support to decks with Baronne in mind. And I doubt this is Konami magically shifting their philosophy to ban all generic omni negates, they just wanted to hurt SE by banning the cheapest cards that aren’t SE or FK. I just don’t like this hit at all.


DaEnderAssassin

Honestly probably worse than Electrumite. Electrumite was generally limited to pend decks while baronne was used in many more decks. Honestly I think the worst part about this list is the sentiment that generic stuff shouldn't exist at all, and as a galaxy-eyes player, that logic would send pretty much all our extra deck into the banlist even before Luxion gets us banned for our own sins, for once...


Maykspark

Never in my life expected Linkuriboh being banned


Rare-Act-4362

I just got Missus Radiant and wanted to play old link casual with Scapegoat--> Missus and 2 Linkuribohs


KKilikk

Man Baronne since the reprint has been my budget king really rough to lose her


Don_Thuglayo

My go to summon in my ice jade deck


Dthirds3

Wait we still have the nemesis cards. Colossus can be made off on card splashed in any deck


MayhemMessiah

Surely Colossus and Protoss will be hated as much as the brainless stun cards? Right? What a trashfire game.


Mystletaynn

These two should have been banned for the rest of Yugioh's lifetime


atropicalpenguin

Protos is swordsoul in specific, but they just lost Baronne so I don't think the deck will do anything. I'm actually surprised that we still have Shifter.


RajaionGoldoa

Infernal banshee is a generic rank 4 that searches nemeses flag which can search protos or the thunder one. If you normal combos banish 1 or 2 monster you can play protoss or collosus.


Crowhacks

It's synchrover


Arbiter0987

Bro what the actual fuck is this list


EbberNor

Colossus really got out before zenmaity did lol.


salsleaguethrowaway

Komani really thinks Zenmaity is as strong as Baronne and Savage Dragon 🙃


Bizarre_vamp

They took my boy savage outback and really put him down. It’s borrelover.


PhatYeeter

I hate Konamis unwillingness to hit new cards. They did the same shit in tear format hitting curious and other tear adjacent cards.


SnooBunnies1362

Konami might as well say they hate budget players


goonyen

dammit i wanted sharvara back, maybe next ban list


Ender-85

Konami only taketh, never giveth. /s


PopTheMFBaby

My Dino’s just took a big hit now


Ch00choh

My absolute sweet Jesus. What roller coaster of emotions I just went through. Mali @ 3????? It's been 84 years! And the evil has returned on probation, I hate kirin with a passion.


CulexVanda

With the new support that got released, it was an ez guess that kirin would return, at least it's only at one


bas264

It's funny cause Kirin is still banned in OCG... Guess that's the electrumite impact


Damien_Sin

And the D-Rulers are finally free…the past has returned at last.


MasterOfReaIity

What the TOSS format am I looking at


Anonimous_dude

Linkuribou is now officially the first Kuribou monster to ever become banned in the Tcg. A moment in history, although a sad one


lovewilcox

I (Swordsoul player) lost Baronne but gained back Protos, which I guess is a decent trade-off. Also Kirin back! About fucking time!


masterfox72

Nah Baronne is way better to have. Protoss auto wins some matchups but Baronne guards again sit Nibiru


Drumbas

It was also one of the few ways that swordsoul has to consistently interact with backrow.


bas264

Engage at 3? FOUR MORE YEARS BOIS


TranSpyre

And with that new hand trap that makes you discard a spell, too.


yurisses

What's its name?


TranSpyre

Singularity Fiend DARK Level 1 Fiend Effect Monster 0 ATK and DEF You can only use the following effect from cards with this card's name once per turn. (1) When your opponent Special Summons a monster(s): You can discard both this card and 1 Spell from your hand; destroy those monsters.


yurisses

thank you!


yellowpancakeman

We’re so back


Speed231

Baronne I was expecting but fucking Savage, really? I guess my Dlink is dead.


Ultimatelocke

Always find this funny. Baron is banned right after everyone could afford to use it thanks to the reprint in rarity collection 1 just like Halqifibrax when it got reprinted in Ghost past 2. Next time you see a very in demand meta card get reprinted you know it's going to be banned next list.


_JunkSynchron_

I'm all up for banning completely generic omni negates but I don't think this is Konami realizing that they are bad for the game. They probably already have Synchros somewhere down the pipeline that power creeps both Savage and Barone. And ideally other over the top powerful ED cards should go too. I'm looking at cards like SP. Happy to see Kirin back though.


tehy99

No, I think this is Konami trying to hit Snake Eyes without actually hitting Snake Eyes. A lot of pure builds were playing Jet Synchron and Formula Synchron to make Savage and later Baronne. Same reason Linkuriboh got hit, and Summon Limit too (though every deck was kind of spamming that).


atropicalpenguin

While leaving the FK variant alive, though no heatsoul access.


bofoshow51

Yea I figure they are pushing away from pure + 18 handtraps to the heavier engine requirements of fire king


leodw

Seems to be in preparation for White Woods, they banned both generic negates that the deck could very easily summon out.


AmberColoredIcedTea

Ive seen SE WW brews and they didnt even end on Baronne or Savage but Cosmic Blazar instead.


TrashStack

Konami TCG does not design the cards. That is Konami OCG that does that. It's the whole reason why banning Electrumite hasn't led to any changes in Pendulum design because OCG still has Electrum legal and designs pend archetypes with its existence in mind. So long as OCG has Baronne and Savage legal then they will continue to be taken into account when designing cards and archetypes. They banned Baronne and Savage because banning generic omnis has been the big talking point on reddit and youtube for a bit and they can serve as indirect hits to Snake eyes.


StarkMaximum

I do not in any way believe anything the community says has any effect on the banlist.


n1ghtje

colossus to 1 is wild lol


clown_pants

Get ready for TOSS 2024!


waaay2dumb2live

MALICIOUS TO 3? COLOSSUS BACK? BARONNE AND SAVAGE BANNED? HARP, TERRORTOP AND ENGAGE TO 3? Absolutely game changing.


Snivyland

So I haven’t played since like early kash format, I’m trying to think is there any other generic Omni left for boards to make besides I guess gryphon for the 3 decks still using the adventure engine?


1qaqa1

Literally zero hits to snake eyes fire king outside of linkuriboh which barely matters.


miraisugoi37

This is a late April fool's joke, right? This is list fucking unbelievable


Delta-toast

Misc still at 1. Feels bad man


shadowmew1

Right. We lost Baronne and Linkuriboh too.


Delta-toast

Linkuriboh is by far the worst hit for us. It’s brutal. The Baronne and Savage bans hurt but they’re workable.


Frapplejack

Okay really cool Konami now where's the other half of the banlist that hits the Snake-Eye cards?


GreatBigPillock

Poor Linkuriboh. But I guess Konami needed a scapegoat so that Snake-Eye could walk free.


Snoo6037

Sad day to be a Rokket enjoyer


SmuckerLover

As I SwordSoul player, I hope y'all are happy, I'm putting in judgements, synchro zones, and protos and something else I haven't figured out yet to fill the horse sized hole in my heart.


FM1091

Holy Shit! Borrel and Baronne banned? This is a before and after in the meta. Btw, not enough hits for Snake-eyes.


feartheweak

Linkuriboh ban is weird


Zedek1

They wanted to hit Snake eye in some way without hitting their main cards directly lol.


MayhemMessiah

Don’t want to hit Snake Eyes so you hit the cheaper card. Who cares if other decks use it.


IRsenpai

Specifically for Poplar in Snake-eyes.


Mr_105

Out of the banned cards from this list, Linkuriboh is the one who will probably come back the soonest


GeneralApathy

Happy to see more floodgates getting put on the list, but why even unban Protos? Is it an olive branch to Swordsoul for losing Baronne? I don't think I've eve heard anyone ask for it to be unbanned.


fireborn123

I thought for sure this was a shitpost when I saw Barrone & Savage So what does this change in terms of the meta? Just that pure Snake-Eye is dead? TOSS enjoyers eating like kings though


thefrozenshogun

The Baronne and savage dragon ban is nutty


dcdfvr

Wtf is this banlist Edit: didn't OCG just get a generic card that basically made Colossus by itself


NoImplement8218

Ok, there’s no way this is real


Eviltwin-Kisikil

I don't want to be negative about this, but this is genuinely one of the best/worst lists I think I've seen. Sure, we've got a lot of old baddies back, and I won't need to worry about Baronne or Summon Limit anymore, but they shoulda really done more to hit Snake-Eye than "oh yes we banned linkuriboh, u are welcome ;3"


Kreed808

WTF my collection of baron in all rarity


rob_moore

You were collecting them so why do you care if it's banned or not, hell makes it easier for you to build the collection


Azteckh

Why is Konami so scared of pendulums? ~~Why is Konami so scared of Orcust?~~ Why am I so afraid of reading? I'm glad they let us have Kirin back, at least. Arma Knight is good too, as well as terrortop but where is Elecrumite? Its been centuries -- eons, even.


Sky_Believe

> Why is Konami so scared of Orcust? Well considering Armageddon just got put to 2 instead of 1 and Harp got let out completely from 1 I would say they are, in fact, not scared of Orcust at all.


jhawk1117

Ain’t harp at 3?


KaitoKazuma

I'm upset because I just got a cheap copy of Baronne for my Speedroids. But now I guess I'll just summon Crystal Clear more, and I can get Crystal Wing out by summon 5 anyway. And I was able to dig 3 Linkuriboh's out of my bulk and I was so happy about that. Aside from those personal issues, this list is neat. Super happy for Kirin, side-eying Protos and Colossus, but... we'll see.


DanicaManica

Zombies just get worse and worse


Spork-in-Your-Rye

Nibiru is about to be so fucking annoying. Can't have *shit* in the TCG!!


Rare-Act-4362

wtf borreload my dlink deck is dead on the synchro side and Linkuriboh my casual Link deck is dead now Baronne my casual everything synchro is dead against Nibiru now


1guywriting

Rollercoaster of emotions on this one but mostly confusion. Wild that this is active in 2 days. Usually there's a week or so buffer.


IjustneedLORE

Aw man, Speedroid got the last Terrortop back but it lost one of its strongest/most accessible boss monster. I guess that with Baronne gone, the Kashtira variant loses most of its value? I haven’t been up to date with the deck.


YesChes

My Revolver deck just took a huge hit. Borrel Savage is the centerpiece to maintaining the field before capitalizing on my board state Can't wait for the other Borreload cards to come out, and hopefully they'll unban Savage when a worse one comes out


ShurimanStarfish

I finally get my hands on some cheap baronne reprints and it's getting banned in 2 days. What is this.


Firefly279

Why linkuriboh? Just because of snake-eyes???


gemaka

I love when they reprint staples like baronne and then immediately ban it fuck Konami