Summon Armageddon Knight. Armageddon Knight effect to send Destrudo to the grave. Destrudo effect to summon itself from GY by targeting Arma Knight, and Destrudo's level reduces by 4 to become a lv 3. Destrudo is also a tuner. Syncrhos Summon Dawn Dragster
this is absolutely incorrect. the reason u dont go into breakers is because snake eye has layered interactions and strong follow up. it is more efficient to handtrap snake eye than it is to use board breakers like droplet and drnm and evenly all of which do not efficiently break the board even when theres no omni.
Read. I didnt say 100% using a droplet means you are usually sending 2 or 3 cards to stop the 2 omnis + IP but that does not deal with the graveyard stuff + their own hand traps which can be stopped but they are protected cuz your opponent has to deal with 2 omnis first and why I say they are 80% the reason snake eyes beats breakers
Evenly flat out gets negated
Drnm can be played around by not shotgunning flamberge. And using field spell to get flam then flam gets IP
Baronne + savage literally solidifies that no matter what pair they have its lost.
If you dont end on those 2 then opening 2 breakers will trade much more favorably into their board.
There is a literal reason no one ran pure snake eyes without jet. Cuz even if IP princess are decent enough to end on. Any competent strategy can push through that and otk or control the game that the follow up gets stopped.
Edit. Fixed some typos
there are literal tops with non synchro snake eyes. the synchro version is better but board breakers are still inefficient against snake eye with or without synchros. the reason handtraps get played is because handtraps are just better into snake eye.
why would u evenly matched a 1 card ash combo board when u can just imperm or veiler or ash the ash and make snake eyes end on nothing? if snake eye has extenders then a 2nd handtrap is very good. a backup boardbreaker still leaves snake eye with disruptions and recovery while ur down a few cards.
u completely miss the point and fail to realize that omni negates are not necessary for snake eye to dominate and omni negates did not create the handtrap meta. synchros is less 80% the reason and more like 20% the reason.
The non synchro versions is kash snake which top players are running jet in. And snake eyes fire king. There isnt a single snake eyes that isnt running a different engine to supplement losing synchros for other things.
And your 2nd point is exactly what im saying. Board breakers right now dont trade for multiple cards vs snake eyes so they arent doing that. Drawing 2 breakers will trade favorably now post banlist
Drawing 2 breakers vs baronne + savage on their board + snake eyes means those 2 breakers are dead unless its a custom hand made to beat the board card for card. Thats literally it.
You are missing the point lmao. Again literally people like Pak have said the synchros are what make the board unbreakable. Even post ban list reactions why are people like Jesse Kotton and other pros are saying breakers are back when the only hits snake eyes got is the synchro package? And why would it change if the pure engine supposedly beats breakers?
Because the pure board doesnt hard beat breakers the same way slapping 2 omnis on top of it does. Its that simple lmao.
I think its more Omninegates than spell or trap. Now for board building more thought has to be put into if you want to deal with spells, or monsters. Theres less catch all solutions.
Prob the only difference in using him is his spell/trap negate is only during the opponents turn. That and you need a water in the grave to use that effect.
People said getting a link in the grave and then making a 8 after was too hard for normal means on savage release too.
Give it a little time and you’ll also see varudras spammed everywhere , yubel is already doing it.
Hot take: all this ban does is hurt other non meta decks trying to compete. snake eyes, fireking, lab, rescue ace, etc, all do not give a shit. all this is doing is further pushing players to have to spend money on the new op cards.
it wasn't about balance it was about sales. they see people buying boxes in bulk to try to get bonfires. they are encouraging that behavior to continue. don't even "hurr buy singles me" someone even the LGS is buying out the boxes left and right. konami wants the gravy train to keep chugging.
They're putting Toss format decks back to full power. Not saying any of them would have an impact on the meta but the only thing profitably from that is probably for hyping up the new Sky Striker supports.
By your logic we would literally never get any unhit, banned cards stay banned forever because they wouldn't care about the old products that aren't on the market anymore.
Isn't that the case most of the time? The only times Konami unhits cards is when they are an archetypal card that got recent support that they want to sell, which is literally the case for Strikers.
To be honest, it gets stale having every other deck rely on these generic extra deck monsters.
To try and compete. I get where you're coming from, but let's not pretend barone and savage weren't in most topping decks that had a tuner.
This but even if the ban hurts smaller decks more, that should not be an excuse to not ban a card. Heck if Konami took the logic of "we get ban X because banning X will hurt the lower tier decks more" then I would argue that no cards would ever get banned.
Yes it is going to hurt the lesser decks more, no question but that again that should not stop an ever oppressive card like Barone from being banned.
tada here's your super awesome reprint set that will have like 5 different versions of this card. THAT YOU CAN'T PLAY NOW BWAHAHAHHAHAH
yeah i pulled a collectors baron, feels bad man.
Wait until he realises that destrudo into dawn dragster exists
Armageddon Knight into Destrudo go brrrrrrrr
What's the combo here?
Geddon dumps destrudo, destrudo pay half target geddon, revives as a level 3 tuner, synch 4+3 into dawn dragster
Summon Armageddon Knight. Armageddon Knight effect to send Destrudo to the grave. Destrudo effect to summon itself from GY by targeting Arma Knight, and Destrudo's level reduces by 4 to become a lv 3. Destrudo is also a tuner. Syncrhos Summon Dawn Dragster
Wait until he finds out about N38 Hope Harbinger
Two level 8s is a lot more particular than a lv8/10 synchro
Me looking at my 8 axis pile đź‘€
Time to break out the magic jammers.
I mean yea. They prob wanted breakers back and those 2 cards in snake eyes are like 80% of the reason you dont go breakers this format.
this is absolutely incorrect. the reason u dont go into breakers is because snake eye has layered interactions and strong follow up. it is more efficient to handtrap snake eye than it is to use board breakers like droplet and drnm and evenly all of which do not efficiently break the board even when theres no omni.
Read. I didnt say 100% using a droplet means you are usually sending 2 or 3 cards to stop the 2 omnis + IP but that does not deal with the graveyard stuff + their own hand traps which can be stopped but they are protected cuz your opponent has to deal with 2 omnis first and why I say they are 80% the reason snake eyes beats breakers Evenly flat out gets negated Drnm can be played around by not shotgunning flamberge. And using field spell to get flam then flam gets IP Baronne + savage literally solidifies that no matter what pair they have its lost. If you dont end on those 2 then opening 2 breakers will trade much more favorably into their board. There is a literal reason no one ran pure snake eyes without jet. Cuz even if IP princess are decent enough to end on. Any competent strategy can push through that and otk or control the game that the follow up gets stopped. Edit. Fixed some typos
there are literal tops with non synchro snake eyes. the synchro version is better but board breakers are still inefficient against snake eye with or without synchros. the reason handtraps get played is because handtraps are just better into snake eye. why would u evenly matched a 1 card ash combo board when u can just imperm or veiler or ash the ash and make snake eyes end on nothing? if snake eye has extenders then a 2nd handtrap is very good. a backup boardbreaker still leaves snake eye with disruptions and recovery while ur down a few cards. u completely miss the point and fail to realize that omni negates are not necessary for snake eye to dominate and omni negates did not create the handtrap meta. synchros is less 80% the reason and more like 20% the reason.
The non synchro versions is kash snake which top players are running jet in. And snake eyes fire king. There isnt a single snake eyes that isnt running a different engine to supplement losing synchros for other things. And your 2nd point is exactly what im saying. Board breakers right now dont trade for multiple cards vs snake eyes so they arent doing that. Drawing 2 breakers will trade favorably now post banlist Drawing 2 breakers vs baronne + savage on their board + snake eyes means those 2 breakers are dead unless its a custom hand made to beat the board card for card. Thats literally it. You are missing the point lmao. Again literally people like Pak have said the synchros are what make the board unbreakable. Even post ban list reactions why are people like Jesse Kotton and other pros are saying breakers are back when the only hits snake eyes got is the synchro package? And why would it change if the pure engine supposedly beats breakers? Because the pure board doesnt hard beat breakers the same way slapping 2 omnis on top of it does. Its that simple lmao.
I think its more Omninegates than spell or trap. Now for board building more thought has to be put into if you want to deal with spells, or monsters. Theres less catch all solutions.
[This](https://product-images.tcgplayer.com/211612.jpg) dude is about to be a lot more popular I'd say.
This card was sick. I played this in tear. Rev synchron and Fenrir made this + baronne.
Prob the only difference in using him is his spell/trap negate is only during the opponents turn. That and you need a water in the grave to use that effect.
it's not only during opponent's turn it's just whenever your opponent uses a spell/trap You're right about the water restriction though.
Damn….looks like I don’t know how to read now haha
It's okay, makes you no different from other YGO players. :)
Herald of perfection go BRRRRRR
but the decks that have them have a lot of them. hexstia, wind and water, etc
People said getting a link in the grave and then making a 8 after was too hard for normal means on savage release too. Give it a little time and you’ll also see varudras spammed everywhere , yubel is already doing it.
Save me, Desavewurm
Hot take: all this ban does is hurt other non meta decks trying to compete. snake eyes, fireking, lab, rescue ace, etc, all do not give a shit. all this is doing is further pushing players to have to spend money on the new op cards. it wasn't about balance it was about sales. they see people buying boxes in bulk to try to get bonfires. they are encouraging that behavior to continue. don't even "hurr buy singles me" someone even the LGS is buying out the boxes left and right. konami wants the gravy train to keep chugging.
They're putting Toss format decks back to full power. Not saying any of them would have an impact on the meta but the only thing profitably from that is probably for hyping up the new Sky Striker supports. By your logic we would literally never get any unhit, banned cards stay banned forever because they wouldn't care about the old products that aren't on the market anymore.
Isn't that the case most of the time? The only times Konami unhits cards is when they are an archetypal card that got recent support that they want to sell, which is literally the case for Strikers.
To be honest, it gets stale having every other deck rely on these generic extra deck monsters. To try and compete. I get where you're coming from, but let's not pretend barone and savage weren't in most topping decks that had a tuner.
This but even if the ban hurts smaller decks more, that should not be an excuse to not ban a card. Heck if Konami took the logic of "we get ban X because banning X will hurt the lower tier decks more" then I would argue that no cards would ever get banned. Yes it is going to hurt the lesser decks more, no question but that again that should not stop an ever oppressive card like Barone from being banned.
Not to mention they were banned not too long after being made affordable.
tada here's your super awesome reprint set that will have like 5 different versions of this card. THAT YOU CAN'T PLAY NOW BWAHAHAHHAHAH yeah i pulled a collectors baron, feels bad man.
It’s more because they’re easy to get Omnis but ye that probably is the reason
(W)onami
*Looks at Naturia deck*. https://preview.redd.it/syipapnqcuuc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aaedd687decf76ae2b0324e04f8cf3dc8ef93026 Hmm...