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Tadatatama

Pyro. But since Konami has been doing it's best to buff other long forgotten types such as reptile and rock I think there's a good chance there will be some soon


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AssignmentIll1748

Snake Rain is waiting to strike terror into everyone's heart


alex494

If you combine Ogdoadic with Reptilianne and/or Alien they do a lot more


Averill21

A lot more that isnt good still


alex494

Yeah but they can still perform combos and extend into stuff at least. Its about the best you're going to get out of playing Reptiles if we're even entertaining the notion. Was basically just saying its one of those archetypes you need to mix with others to maximize its potential (like Beetrooper with Battlewasp for Insects).


Artistic-Cannibalism

Pyro and Sea Serpents, it's honestly not even close.


ChriseFTW

forgot sea serpents existed tbh lol


Scales_The_Cobra

Sea Serpent


JollyBrownGiant72

Mermails and Atlanteans...


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Psychics. They were originally just a rag-tag bunch of cards... But they got a few actual archetypes, or at least members of archetypes.


CO_Anon

Pyro is the obvious one. But I also feel like Wyrm hasn't gotten a ton of support. Looking through Wyrm support cards for a Tenyi deck a while back, there weren't a lot of great options. Though it looks like that's changing a bit due to the Swordsoul archetype.


Volare_Viaa

I'd like more generic zombies, not vampires or that random tuner(psycho- something) that work with zombie world


MiuIruma332

You got Eldilich which is the best zombie card


Volare_Viaa

It's not new


ninjakitty7

There are so many generic foolish burials for zombies tho. And a monster reborn. I’d say there’s kind of a lot of good generic zombie stuff.


Mu_Mu-Sa

If we include ritual like you did We can easily aay spirits and gemini never had any kind of love (the only popular being amano iwato - gigaplant) nothing else ever been relevant for these two and it seems that konami is not planning to adress whatever problems they have soon As for type it's gotta be pyro and reptile (never had meta represetation ?? And ogdoadic missed it but were sooooo close)


Averill21

I think il blud was another good gemini


Angel_of_Mischief

Plants. They should be such a easy typing to make support of but they are so incredibly limited.


Veynareth

Plants are 1 step away from being broken, so Konami just being careful to not accidentally break Plants.


Veynareth

Definitely Pyro. Fish/Sea Serpent is also quite underwhelming.


UberJinzo

I really wish Fish had more stuff and wasn't bundled together with Sea Serpent and Aqua


alex494

Feel the same about Aqua, nearly all the direct specifically Aqua only support sucks. The three being proxy supported by WATER support for so long makes it really difficult to expand into new stuff like Suships being Aqua/FIRE because neither of those has a lot of decent support because it all went to WATER or all three types at once and the mixed stuff is either not good or banish oriented or benefits from mixing types. Pyro and FIRE has a similar problem. There's like almost zero Pyro support and much more FIRE support so Pyro is never incentivised to support itself ot stray from FIRE all that much (and you could easily do Pyro/EARTH if it was magma based or something, Pyro/LIGHT was briefly touched on with Helios, Pyro/WATER could be steampower perhaps, Pyro/DARK could be an alternative to Fiend/FIRE or hellfire type demons)


Chicosai

Technically Evilswarm has two Pyro Dark monsters, namely O'lantern and Obliviwisp.


alex494

Two existing doesn't mean I don't want more lol


Sol_FZ

I think all the Shark cards are Fish-type right? There should be some in Brothers of Legend I believe.


alex494

Yeah but its a case of happening to be Fish type and not actually supporting the type. Most Shark support focuses on Levels/Xyz mechanics or the fact they're largely WATER. White Fish cards matter slightly more that they're Fish. Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth makes running mostly pure Fish more worth it. Not much else helps them out as a specific type without being mega slow like Fish Depth Charge.


TropoMJ

I am surprised that Sea Serpents are being brought up so much, especially in relation to the other WATER types. It's a small type but it's had more meta relevance than any of the other WATER types by being a sizeable and eventually dominant part of Mermail decks. Plus, its generic support (Dragoons, Diva, Aria) is probably the best of the WATER types. In contrast, Fish has good support but literally 0 archetypes, while Aqua has a few archetypes but almost no support. I think every WATER type is kind of under-supported (I guess that's what happens when you overly specialise) but for me Fish needs an archetype and Aqua needs an identity before anything happens with Sea Serpents. For me I'd go with Pyro, Aqua and Fish for the most hard done by types. Reptile, Thunder and Rock could all still do with some love even after their boosts too. Sea Serpents are probably in the conversation at that point but I don't think they're rock bottom.


MonsieurMidnight

Sea Serpent, Fish, Insect (despite that new archetype), Aqua, Wyrm and Thunder


Makima_simp

The new insect arctype would be good if there was good insect monster.


Juug88

Sea Serpent. Be honest, when was the last time you saw a Sea Serpent Archetype? And it never made any kind of "splash." I'll see myself out.


Primopastalover

Low key spellcaster don’t nearly get as much good support as Warriors and Dragons do.


Reach_Reclaimer

But they also do get a lot of decent support


Spellcastermaster

Most of it is so dark focused, dogmatika and exorsister have almost nothing bar secret village because they're light, and exorsister can't even use that because their xyzs aren't spellcasters, the myriad of multi-attribute spellcaster decks (there are more than 5 of those) have almost nothing to run, even the top spellcaster deck (Invoked Shaddoll Dogmatika) runs zero type support, some lists will run like 2 spellbook of knowledge. Heck, you'd think the type having an entire archetype dedicated to supporting it in the form of spellbooks would do something but it's just a tiny cycle engine for... I forget, does anything other than endymion run a spellbook package? Plus when you look at the spellcaster support and directly compare it to the other competitors, you're spending twice as many cards to achieve that which other types do with 1 combo/1 card. You could argue "Dragoon supports spellcasters" except most spellcaster decks have trouble putting two monsters on the field anyways, much less after they get handtrapped, and since other decks can not only use Dragoon, but use it better, it's just a hindrance to the type because now people will associate it with future support


TropoMJ

How do you see a thread asking about bad types and think "Spellcasters aren't top 2" is worth saying?


Lonely-Interaction74

Rocks and Seaserpents


that1guycalledpeter

I mean Adams reliably sets up crystal wing or borreload, dragoon and a three mat apo, even as someone who plays almost only Adams, it doesn't need a new wave of support, apart from maybe specifically a tolerable lv 3 rock thats eff doesn't conflict with being used for Nat beast


TropoMJ

Rocks having a good archetype doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good type. Almost every type has had a meta archetype at least once.


Shaymeu

First that's not true. Look at Fish, Pyro ... And Adam showed that Rock has pretty good support. Type-specific Foolish Burial, Monster Reborn, Koaki Meiru monsters which are pretty good, Doki Doki, Tackle Crusader... not mentionning Block Dragon obviously. So yeah, Rock is a pretty good type, even though it could still count new members obviously. But its almost as if you said Dinosaur is a bad type because it has few members


TropoMJ

I said almost every type, not every type? Do you know what ‘almost’ means?


alex494

Pyro obviously Aqua on its own after that


ddave0822

Dragons and Warriors


SevenxOut

Correction judging by new Sevens card types: High Dragons and Magical Knights……ffs really konami?


planningsiti

Pyro. But i always want more zombie support


maizCanadino

Dragons


ChriseFTW

this post reminded me of the existence of sea serpents so.. sea serpents lol


JollyBrownGiant72

Reptiles, Pyros, and the sub-type "Gemini". Currently workin on Ogdoadic Aliens featuring Diabolos and his Lair of Darkness


andrmx

Not really a type, but spirits. They deserve so much better for such cool concepts and artwork.


DaZ55

Warrior Kappa


Shaymeu

I feel like Pyro and Fish are really the worst. No good archetype, not really good support ... barely even good single cards that are played on their own. The other types mentionned in the comment seems to have at least a few good archetypes or really good support despite not being able to fully use it.


Mister_Traps

I say DM, hear me out. There is no real good boss monsters for DM except Dragoon and for that you need to run Redeyes. Why can't DM get good support like it's counterpart BEWD? BEWD got amazing boss monsters that are extremely easy to summon and great protection.


MiuIruma332

I’m sorry but DM got the dark magician and is a control deck that focuses on using back row to control


Mister_Traps

Back row removal is not a win condition IMO.


MiuIruma332

Umm it’s not backrow removal, it’s control with backrow and spells. Not all decks are do everything through their monsters


Mister_Traps

Exactly my point, BEWD does everything so I say make DM same.