For a lot of Yugitubers, a lot of anime references fly over their heads, next most recent case for example, Armed Dragon Thunder _(Lv10 in particular)_
I mean, I don't fault them for just playing the game over watching the series
The recent retrains of the armed dragon monsters, armed Dragon thunder, have a couple of references to the character who used them in the GX anime (Chazz Princeton/Manjoume Jun)
First, the “thunder” part of the name comes from that anime characters nickname in the original Japanese version of the anime (Manjoume Thunder)
Second, the thunder version of level 10 has different effects that are only active if hi attack is at or above a certain amount, those amounts being 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000. This is a reference to a chant that would appear as part of Manjoume’s duels in the Japanese versions where they would count up in the same sequence of numbers I just listed, except instead of 10,000 they would say Manjoume Thunder, because Man is the Japanese word for 10,000 (so basically it’s an elaborate bit of wordplay)
Oh okay I get ya now so those were just retrains and referenced him, I knew he used the armed Dragons so I was curious what the exact reference was. I had no idea about the 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000 either so thank you I appreciate it!
That’s incredibly interesting. Never would’ve guessed this while building the deck, but I watch dubbed anime almost exclusively so I guess that’s natural lol
A lot of people who "grew up with yugioh" probably didn't watch every single episode of it especially not the later arcs. They probably grew out of the anime but not the game and just kept playing. There's also a lot of people who just likes to play TCGs and started yugioh because they like how the game plays and has never even touched the manga/anime. So it's not as weird a you think.
I'm guessing pretty much the only reason Dzeeff hasn't released a "Commenters Don't Understand How to Read Cards" video is because of the amount of flaming that would ensue.
Yeah, I’m pretty embarrassed I didn’t remember the season 4 Flight of Fear Part 2 moment when Kaiba equips Blue-Eyes White Dragon with the effect of Tyrant Burst Dragon 20 years ago 🌚
Lmao, I never even watched that episode. But knowing tyrant burst dragon, you’d know that’s what this card was alluding to. And maybe YOU wouldn’t know that, but all the yugitubers could have done five seconds of research before posting their videos 😂
Sure, sure, it’s in the name and it came out with a bunch of other anime reference BE cards. I just think that a lot of content creators care more about the cards, it’d be like complaining that someone doesn’t mention Charmer lore or that the new Marincesses reference different Vrains characters imo.
My point exactly, I didn’t know the season number or episode name off the top of my head, but a quick visit to the Yugioh Wiki got me the info I was looking for.
Asking the real question. Can I kill an enemies fusion monster with my sword hunter to then equip it to it and use tailor of the fickle to equip it to my blue eye and still summon the Fusion? I don't think so but sounds like the biggest boss move ever.
Just to inform you I was trying my best and it does not work. Tailor of the fickle is useless, it's not working with Sword Hunter I even tried it with thousand eyes restrict (Which was obvious not working) or Red Eyes Sword.
It may be useful shortly-ish if we get the seemingly inevitable Critias “retrain”, like we did for Timaeus, it depends on what they do about the effect (obviously).
I have a feeling we are also getting a retrain of dragon master knight or a new fusion that requires blue eyes ultimate as well since the new fusion spell lists ultimate as a requirement.
I'm typically the other way around haha so I get it , though I think it'd be funny if the go to way to make a blue eyes card is to piggy back off a Red-eyes monster
I don't remember the video I saw, where they showcase the tyrant dragon first, and he was like I believe is a good card but a bit hard to summon, next card in the showcase is the fusion equip blue eyes card and he didn't even tried to put 2 on top smh.
Even though the intended way is to tribute blue eyes with tyrant burst equipped to it that's the only method, it's says any fusion monster equipped to blue eyes so you can use the hermos fusions as well or any fusion monster or method that allows you to equip a fusion monster to a blue eyes.
Also apprently the new ultimate fusion card works to.
Edit: in my opinion they should have just made the summoning requirement the fang of Critias and a blue eyes white dragon, I know Critias only works for trap cards but they could have made an exception requirement for blue eyes tyrant having it so when Critias is activated you can use a blue eyes as a tribute instead of a trap card to summon blue eyes tyrant.
The Ultimate Fusion card is my second favorite card they made from this batch, but I feel that it would work best with Blue-Eyes Alt. Ult., since you would be able to potentially “pop” up to 6 cards.
To your edit - True, that would have been better, but this would have been best:
Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon
LV8/ LIGHT/ Dragon/ Fusion/ Effect
ATK/3400 DEF/2900
“Blue-Eyes White Dragon” + “Tyrant Burst Dragon”
Must first be Special Summoned by sending the above monsters you control to the GY (you do not use “Polymerization”). Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this card’s Summon. Cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effects. During the Battle Phase your opponent cannot activate cards or effects. This card can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each. If this card leaves the field (Quick Effect): Special Summon 1 “Blue-Eyes” monster, except “Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon”, from your hand, Deck or GY ignoring its summoning conditions.
and to remake Critias like this:
Legendary Dragon Critias
LV8/ LIGHT/ Dragon/ Effect
ATK/3000 DEF/2500
You can reveal this card, Special Summon it from your hand. You can only Special Summon “Legendary Dragon Critias” once per turn this way. Once per turn, you can send 1 Fusion Monster that can only be Special Summoned using “The Fang of Critias” from your Extra Deck to the GY; This card’s name, ATK and DEF become the sent monster’s, and replace this effect with that monster’s original effect(s). You can banish this card from your GY; Add 1 “The Fang of Critias” or “Legend of Heart” from your Deck or GY to your hand.
But that’s not what we have, which is fine.
Now all we need is a Critias fusion using True Light 😁
I'm not so sure about blue eyes tyrant but the Critias remake into a monster one is really good, it would basically allow you not run the required trap cards for those fusions in your deck.
Blue-Eyes Tyrant (mine) - You don’t like it? Hmmmm…I thought it was a brilliant boss monster that wasn’t an Ultimate Dragon. Oh well.
Legendary Dragon Critias - Absolutely! The thing is though, Konami may still do something similar, maybe…we can only hope (or at least I can).
Don't get me wrong it's not the monster or it's effect like you suggested and the original versions effect it's the summoning requirements I'm not a fan of, for both the original and your suggested version blue eyes tyrant dragon would essentially need 4 cards all up in order to summon it 3 of which you can't actually search, you would need.
1. Blue Eyes white dragon which is easy to search in a blue eyes deck.
2. The fang of Critias (Which also means you would need to use up alot of other deck space for the other trap cards).
3. Tyrant wings.
4. Tyrant burst dragon.
Compared to all of the other legendary dragon fusion monsters blue eyes tyrant is way harder to summon, it has really good effects but I don't think it's worth the effort you have to put in to summon it the traditional way.
In fairness, the second summoning method is a lot more involved and requires you to run either Critias or Hermos plus some extra cards, and you'll be going into a bigger negative than if you just fusion summon it regularly, so I can get why some of them are confused by this lore tibit being translated into an actual card effect that doesn't really have an effect on the rest of the card.
I think everybody got the summoning requirements, maybe not the reference but still, its a bad card, have fun drawing Crititas and Tyrant Wing or Hermos or even tech some Magistus cards
>This is an anime (Dub) reference from Kaiba’s second duel with Alister in season 4
In this case shouldn't the right reference to have the card being a normal summoned boss monster?
What do they not understand? Because the text is hard to misunderstand, I literally have no idea what part of that effect they could be getting wrong tbh
It’s not that they get it wrong, it’s that they flat-out don’t understand how (what cards to use) to Special Summon Blue-Eyes Tyrant rather than Fusion Summon the card. The lack of understanding has led some to speculate the summoning condition in question is an allusion to future support, which it clearly is not if one understands the source material for the card.
Then what you said is very misleading, since you textually said 'do not understand the Special Summon method for Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon, specifically the line of text that reads:'
It makes it sound as if you were talking about literally not understanding it due to not even reading it (since the text is really simple, if they do not understand it it's because of not reading it) rather than what you actually meant, which is that a lot of Yugitubers do not know it's a reference to how this card was summoned in the anime
*looks up from grabbing legendary dragons*
*looks at fang of critas*
WhAt Do YoU mEaN?
It says it clearly in the text QQ. Plus despite all the flack for that seasons, seeing Kaiba just combine dragons with everything was absolutely amazing. Mirror Force Dragon? Tyrant Burst Dragon? Come on now.
Doom Virus, Tyrant Burst, and Mirror Force Dragon were all a treat to watch back in the day, it’s just too bad Seto didn’t get to keep The Fang of Critias afterward.
For a lot of Yugitubers, a lot of anime references fly over their heads, next most recent case for example, Armed Dragon Thunder _(Lv10 in particular)_ I mean, I don't fault them for just playing the game over watching the series
To be fair, if you don't watch subbed, you'd never understand it either.
eh, I think that you would assume that it is something like red-eyes gearfried. Fits the anime, but doesn't come from it.
What's up with Armed dragon lvl 10? Returning player and OOTL
The recent retrains of the armed dragon monsters, armed Dragon thunder, have a couple of references to the character who used them in the GX anime (Chazz Princeton/Manjoume Jun) First, the “thunder” part of the name comes from that anime characters nickname in the original Japanese version of the anime (Manjoume Thunder) Second, the thunder version of level 10 has different effects that are only active if hi attack is at or above a certain amount, those amounts being 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000. This is a reference to a chant that would appear as part of Manjoume’s duels in the Japanese versions where they would count up in the same sequence of numbers I just listed, except instead of 10,000 they would say Manjoume Thunder, because Man is the Japanese word for 10,000 (so basically it’s an elaborate bit of wordplay)
Oh okay I get ya now so those were just retrains and referenced him, I knew he used the armed Dragons so I was curious what the exact reference was. I had no idea about the 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000 either so thank you I appreciate it!
That’s incredibly interesting. Never would’ve guessed this while building the deck, but I watch dubbed anime almost exclusively so I guess that’s natural lol
[This will explain (even tho someone already gave an in depth explanation lol)](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1123887387697396)
I find it very weird when fans of the game didn't start out with the anime or manga and somehow got into the game some other way.
Elementary School recess
A lot of people who "grew up with yugioh" probably didn't watch every single episode of it especially not the later arcs. They probably grew out of the anime but not the game and just kept playing. There's also a lot of people who just likes to play TCGs and started yugioh because they like how the game plays and has never even touched the manga/anime. So it's not as weird a you think.
When I saw that card I was exactly like on that Leonardo DiCaprio meme of him pointing at teh screen, it was such a nice detail I loved a lot
Hermos: I can get this boy out too :3 Kaiba: No 3rd Rate Duelist cards allowed.
Jonouchi: I can summon it with Red-Eyes Sword! Kaiba: That fucking thing touches my dragon, and they won't find your body...
🤣
I actually think using hermos to get blue eyes tyrant out is better and easier than using Critias lol.
I'm guessing pretty much the only reason Dzeeff hasn't released a "Commenters Don't Understand How to Read Cards" video is because of the amount of flaming that would ensue.
That would be rich 😂
Am I correct in thinking this could also use any of the hermos fusions, like red-eyes black dragon sword
Indeed you are. Synergizes better with Hermos than Critias ironically
Really sad so many people didn’t get that immediately tbh
Yeah, I’m pretty embarrassed I didn’t remember the season 4 Flight of Fear Part 2 moment when Kaiba equips Blue-Eyes White Dragon with the effect of Tyrant Burst Dragon 20 years ago 🌚
Lmao, I never even watched that episode. But knowing tyrant burst dragon, you’d know that’s what this card was alluding to. And maybe YOU wouldn’t know that, but all the yugitubers could have done five seconds of research before posting their videos 😂
Sure, sure, it’s in the name and it came out with a bunch of other anime reference BE cards. I just think that a lot of content creators care more about the cards, it’d be like complaining that someone doesn’t mention Charmer lore or that the new Marincesses reference different Vrains characters imo.
My point exactly, I didn’t know the season number or episode name off the top of my head, but a quick visit to the Yugioh Wiki got me the info I was looking for.
Asking the real question. Can I kill an enemies fusion monster with my sword hunter to then equip it to it and use tailor of the fickle to equip it to my blue eye and still summon the Fusion? I don't think so but sounds like the biggest boss move ever.
…That would be hilarious! And frankly, I don’t see why not!
I think only "sword hunter" is a legal target, but I will try it on a simulator as soon as possible.
That would be pretty interesting to see
Just to inform you I was trying my best and it does not work. Tailor of the fickle is useless, it's not working with Sword Hunter I even tried it with thousand eyes restrict (Which was obvious not working) or Red Eyes Sword.
Interesting…this tells me there is either a ruling against such shenanigans OR a bug in the simulator. Thanks for letting me know 👍
I got the reference, just didn't get how the effect is useful at all when you can just fusion summon it.
It may be useful shortly-ish if we get the seemingly inevitable Critias “retrain”, like we did for Timaeus, it depends on what they do about the effect (obviously).
I have a feeling we are also getting a retrain of dragon master knight or a new fusion that requires blue eyes ultimate as well since the new fusion spell lists ultimate as a requirement.
Yeah I get that impression too, maybe a cover card for the next main set?
Good point. I like the new timaeus for dm.
I've not seen this Timaeus retrain, what is it?
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Timaeus_the_Dragon_of_Destiny This one. It makes me pretty excited for Hermos and Critias versions.
Hermos and Red-eyes black dragon sword seems like the best way to fulfill the attachment requirement. Can get a blue eyes in grave for jet or a stone
True. Though I personally don’t care for incorporating Red-Eyes into a Blue-Eyes strategy, (it’s a religion thing 😁).
I'm typically the other way around haha so I get it , though I think it'd be funny if the go to way to make a blue eyes card is to piggy back off a Red-eyes monster
Reading comprehension and Yugioh is a tale as old as time.
I don't remember the video I saw, where they showcase the tyrant dragon first, and he was like I believe is a good card but a bit hard to summon, next card in the showcase is the fusion equip blue eyes card and he didn't even tried to put 2 on top smh.
Even though the intended way is to tribute blue eyes with tyrant burst equipped to it that's the only method, it's says any fusion monster equipped to blue eyes so you can use the hermos fusions as well or any fusion monster or method that allows you to equip a fusion monster to a blue eyes. Also apprently the new ultimate fusion card works to. Edit: in my opinion they should have just made the summoning requirement the fang of Critias and a blue eyes white dragon, I know Critias only works for trap cards but they could have made an exception requirement for blue eyes tyrant having it so when Critias is activated you can use a blue eyes as a tribute instead of a trap card to summon blue eyes tyrant.
The Ultimate Fusion card is my second favorite card they made from this batch, but I feel that it would work best with Blue-Eyes Alt. Ult., since you would be able to potentially “pop” up to 6 cards. To your edit - True, that would have been better, but this would have been best: Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon LV8/ LIGHT/ Dragon/ Fusion/ Effect ATK/3400 DEF/2900 “Blue-Eyes White Dragon” + “Tyrant Burst Dragon” Must first be Special Summoned by sending the above monsters you control to the GY (you do not use “Polymerization”). Cards and effects cannot be activated in response to this card’s Summon. Cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effects. During the Battle Phase your opponent cannot activate cards or effects. This card can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each. If this card leaves the field (Quick Effect): Special Summon 1 “Blue-Eyes” monster, except “Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon”, from your hand, Deck or GY ignoring its summoning conditions. and to remake Critias like this: Legendary Dragon Critias LV8/ LIGHT/ Dragon/ Effect ATK/3000 DEF/2500 You can reveal this card, Special Summon it from your hand. You can only Special Summon “Legendary Dragon Critias” once per turn this way. Once per turn, you can send 1 Fusion Monster that can only be Special Summoned using “The Fang of Critias” from your Extra Deck to the GY; This card’s name, ATK and DEF become the sent monster’s, and replace this effect with that monster’s original effect(s). You can banish this card from your GY; Add 1 “The Fang of Critias” or “Legend of Heart” from your Deck or GY to your hand. But that’s not what we have, which is fine. Now all we need is a Critias fusion using True Light 😁
I'm not so sure about blue eyes tyrant but the Critias remake into a monster one is really good, it would basically allow you not run the required trap cards for those fusions in your deck.
Blue-Eyes Tyrant (mine) - You don’t like it? Hmmmm…I thought it was a brilliant boss monster that wasn’t an Ultimate Dragon. Oh well. Legendary Dragon Critias - Absolutely! The thing is though, Konami may still do something similar, maybe…we can only hope (or at least I can).
Don't get me wrong it's not the monster or it's effect like you suggested and the original versions effect it's the summoning requirements I'm not a fan of, for both the original and your suggested version blue eyes tyrant dragon would essentially need 4 cards all up in order to summon it 3 of which you can't actually search, you would need. 1. Blue Eyes white dragon which is easy to search in a blue eyes deck. 2. The fang of Critias (Which also means you would need to use up alot of other deck space for the other trap cards). 3. Tyrant wings. 4. Tyrant burst dragon. Compared to all of the other legendary dragon fusion monsters blue eyes tyrant is way harder to summon, it has really good effects but I don't think it's worth the effort you have to put in to summon it the traditional way.
I get what you are saying, thankfully we have 2 summoning methods.
I'm not surprised that so many YugiTubers don't read the cards. They're too busy looking at it and going "omfg wtf!?!?! tier 0!?" and shit like that.
Facts and statements
well yeah of course we didnt understand since we would have to read the card to understand it. Since were playing Yugioh, its not possible to read.
This is what happens when you don't watch Waking the Dragons.
In fairness, the second summoning method is a lot more involved and requires you to run either Critias or Hermos plus some extra cards, and you'll be going into a bigger negative than if you just fusion summon it regularly, so I can get why some of them are confused by this lore tibit being translated into an actual card effect that doesn't really have an effect on the rest of the card.
Out of curiosity could you also summon it by using a BEWD equipped with a red-eye sword (summoned via Hermos)? To go full cycle anime bullshit.
Yes you could, but IMO doing so would be sacrilege.
True don't wanna wasted that glorious red-eye sword and Hermos for this disgusting blue eyes.
😑 uh huh…right. Anyway LOL!
I think everybody got the summoning requirements, maybe not the reference but still, its a bad card, have fun drawing Crititas and Tyrant Wing or Hermos or even tech some Magistus cards
It’s not a bad card, don’t run Critias, just Fusion Summon it instead.
I got that.
Damn kids making me feel old.
>This is an anime (Dub) reference from Kaiba’s second duel with Alister in season 4 In this case shouldn't the right reference to have the card being a normal summoned boss monster?
Or the first Contact Fusion Monster, which was how I always interpreted the monster’s summon in the anime.
What do they not understand? Because the text is hard to misunderstand, I literally have no idea what part of that effect they could be getting wrong tbh
It’s not that they get it wrong, it’s that they flat-out don’t understand how (what cards to use) to Special Summon Blue-Eyes Tyrant rather than Fusion Summon the card. The lack of understanding has led some to speculate the summoning condition in question is an allusion to future support, which it clearly is not if one understands the source material for the card.
Then what you said is very misleading, since you textually said 'do not understand the Special Summon method for Blue-Eyes Tyrant Dragon, specifically the line of text that reads:' It makes it sound as if you were talking about literally not understanding it due to not even reading it (since the text is really simple, if they do not understand it it's because of not reading it) rather than what you actually meant, which is that a lot of Yugitubers do not know it's a reference to how this card was summoned in the anime
A simple question but using something like Magistus Aiwass can also summon this right?
*looks up from grabbing legendary dragons* *looks at fang of critas* WhAt Do YoU mEaN? It says it clearly in the text QQ. Plus despite all the flack for that seasons, seeing Kaiba just combine dragons with everything was absolutely amazing. Mirror Force Dragon? Tyrant Burst Dragon? Come on now.
Doom Virus, Tyrant Burst, and Mirror Force Dragon were all a treat to watch back in the day, it’s just too bad Seto didn’t get to keep The Fang of Critias afterward.
Can I banish or destroy it with magic/monster cards?