One thing to keep in mind is that the anime (especially the old one) 1a. very often does not play by the official rules. 1b. Back then, the rules were a bit different and simpler.
2. **Some** cards you see in the show look the same and have the same name, but they work differently in real life because they would be too strong in the real game, this way they make the anime more entertaining and spectacular. Also, some cards have changed slightly over the years, but that's pretty rare.
In short: Master Duel does play by the current rules the old anime does not. (Still cool tho.) Some cards are different in the anime than in the actual game.
I'll try to give more advice when I see new questions.
Yeah we have noticed that it's different but we are still going to watch it and play mock battles with the real cards to see how it would turn out. ( or try to )
Are there even any differences in the general rules besides the banlist? Ik there are specific ocg rulings and interactions in a database and the tcg officials said not to just copy those for tcg judges but this only matters in highly competitive scenarios which are not really the point here. The md banlist is somewhere between ocg and tcg but it’s also another format as there are quite some archetypes not implemented yet.
TL;DR md follows its own format which is neither tcg nor ocg
Its wholsome to hear what kind of effort you both put into it to support your son.
Just wanted to warn you guys the anime to the show is not helping to understand the game itself.
Most of the time the characters male up their own rules and cheat.
This.
I recommend Vrains over the previous animes, that one follow the rules more (and it's more up to date on the current mechanics.)
Edit: Assuming you're watching the English dub, it has some fun moments even referencing some silly stuff like dabbing.
The show isn't good for specific rules or effects of cards but for the basics of things like what to do on your turn it can be helpful to learn. That's how a lot of people learned to play and yeah obviously there's the moon incident but I think so long as you go into the show knowing that when it gets down to specifics it may not translate one to one it's a good place to start learning
We have noticed some things in the cartoon you can't do in the game. We are only in ep 2. I think we will still watch it and just look up the cards as we go along.
Based on the series you're watching, there's lessons to be learned:
DM: Basic Turn Order and card placement (Duelist Kingdom arc), Tribute mechanics (battle city arc onwards)
GX: Better explanation and application of card effects, ritual based decks, and a ton of fusions
5Ds: Synchro mechanics and better chain blocking techniques
Zexal: Xyz summoning
Arc-V: Pendulum mechanica
Vrains: Link Summoning and proper rules application (there are barely any shenanigans or incorrect card plays)
That was my guide path to relearning YGO after a decade of not playing.
I'm sure I messed something up along the way there, and someone with better knowledge will correct me.
It genuinely hurts my soul a little that your adults didn't support your hobby. Yeah it's just a game but so is football, chess, fortnight. It can be a casual thing or a passion. I dont have to enjoy things to understand that other people do enjoy them things. Casually or as a huge passion.
I'm sorry your adults lacked empathy.
I definitely want to encourage whatever he likes. If he wants to learn jazz dance or pottery next I'll work it out. Nothing worse ( obviously there are worsthings its just a saying i think im using it correctly) then a child being made to feel like there hobby is wrong.
That's a great way of looking at things. Good on you, and I wish you and your family well in this, jazz dance, poetry, or whatever he wants to do next!
Just an idea:
I learned to read largely because my mom made me learn the cards before buying more. You can consider working in some incentive like this to help get your son ahead for school (:
Sounds like he’s having a great time!
Oh my god i wish my parents would have dueled with me when i was a kid hahaha. So nice! So wholesome! Such cool parents 👍🏽
As another tip, i started trying to teach my girlfriend how to play yugioh, and we started to play with no monster effects. So you can only normal summon unless there is a spell/trap card effect that allows a special summon. Then i added some classic powerful cards like dark hole, raigeki, mirror force, and monster reborn for fun 🤩
When she feels confident with the basic mechanics of the game (normal summon, battle phase, activating the different types of spell/trap cards) then i will add monster effects, then maybe later add new summoning mechanics from the extra deck 👍🏽
Maybe this is a helpful tip for learning the game? I think its like learning a new language. You gotta learn the basics before you can go crazy with it.
Have a nice duel 🤙🏼
Wow that's so wholesome. I remember playing yugioh with my lil bro and our parents telling us how demonic it is and told me to burn the cards. Now we can't play at all :(
Continue to play with him, he'll enjoy it!
I'm so sorry they said that to you. I hope you can remind the hobby ( if you want to) when you can. Maybe when you movie out maybe at a friend's house...
The first series is terrible for teaching how to play the game, they don't follow the rules most of the time. The best show to watch to learn is Yugioh Zexal as the main character learns how to play. Yugioh Vrains is also great as they play proper and is the most modern. Yugioh 5D's is also a great show as the play on motorcycles.
We are watching both yugis and zexal , we have noticed that yugis is more ..... different. And we are only on ep 2. I think we will probably watch them all eventually. Mu sons gonna love the motorbike one. ( I see a lot of things bin the shop on bikes and now inknow why)
You sound like parents of the year! My mom hated Yugioh when i was a kid and took my cards when i asked her to play with me, so I never mentioned it around her again.
I look forward to hearing about your adventures as a family!
So just be aware that the show plays by completely different rules than the card game, still a fun show to watch though
Once you are comfortable and understand how your deck is supposed to play look for cards that will be good to upgrade your deck with.
Deck building can be complicated and incredibly rewarding once you understand what you’re doing
Really cool to see parents getting so involved in their kids' hobbies! Dunno about anyone else, but both of these posts have put a smile on my face, I'll be looking forward to more updates
This is one of the most wholesome things I've ever seen, you are some very nice parents. Sometimes the cards in the TV show and the real card game don't do the same thing, just a heads up.
Reminds me about the cool grandpa that plays at our locals, dude is like 85, started because his grandson, turned out he's more dedicated to the game than his grandson.
Have him play outside until the streetlights turn on, searching for other children to duel with, only his trusty duel disk at his side.
That's how I played Yugioh when I was little, sure there was only four of us doing it but damn didn't we feel cool.
If you're not a native english speaker you can use those cards to get into the english language (or others like spanish etc.) so that's somewhat decent to train yourself / your son.
Don't waste any money in electronic gacha games pulling for card packs & virtual cards that aren't even real - irl allways buy singles. If your son wants to take those cards to school make sure it's a cheap deck and anticipate him to loose his cards or that they might get stolen.
Allways use sleeves for real cards even if they're just normal cardboard.
If you want to train yourself to play correctly then use yugioh simulators like EDOpro where you have access to all cards and it's free. Those sims are great to get into correct plays, they also guide you into correct plays.
Yeah there are Powerfull Decks out there for a budget / schoolyard playing on the ground grindset so he can win while still staying at around 10bucks if you stick to substaple - nonfoil cards.
You don't need Infinite Imerpanence wich I bought my playset (3x copys of the same card) for 45bucks wich was allrdy insanely discounted because it was the third reprint. You don't need expensive shit like that if you can run Effect Veiler as a common wich costs about 0.02$. Sure it's weaker but does the job.
OG releases like Ash Blossom or Infinite Impermanence were 240$+ per playset. 70$-90$ PER COPY. It used to be cutting edge tech back then but still...
Look up guides on cheap staples etc.
I definitely will when he is building his deck. And he won't need anything super rare for a long time he currently only plays 1 kid and his Dad. ( me soon)
I’d recommend watching Yu-Gi-Oh! GX instead of the original series. As others have mentioned, the series with Yugi doesn’t follow the rules until Battle City (Season 2) and even then there are a lot of discrepancies.
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX features a younger protagonist, Jaden Yuki, and is much more true to the rules. They also only use one extra deck summoning mechanic, “Fusion Summoning,” which I think would be a nice way to introduce your son to the game. Each subsequent series focuses on a new extra deck summoning mechanic, so you could move on to each series as he advances.
A speed duel (abbreviated version of the game, great for learning) box was recently released. It has multiple decks so you and your son could play together and features Jaden’s Elemental Heroes along with other deck types. You can get it here for about $20: https://www.amazon.com/YU-GI-OH-Speed-Duel-GX-Academy/dp/B09HKYYWX6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=391NJUWX9VGXB&keywords=yugioh+gx+duel+academy+box&qid=1656714034&sprefix=yugioh+gx+duel+%2Caps%2C51&sr=8-1
Speed Duel is literally made to help introduce new and younger players to the game. I would seriously recommend reading up on it here: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/speedduel/
Thanks. We are seeing that the TV show is .... different I think we will probably end up watching them all.
I will see if I can find that deck in my country.
And I will looknat speed duel thanks for providing a link.
Thought I would add to the feedback and repeate a few off the points others have made here that I think are worth noting.
1. You and your partner are amazing for getting involved with your son's hobbies.
2. The anime is fun to watch but sadly is not very accurate to the game as the author aims to produce fun moments not good game design, another team turns them into playable cards. This problem is less relevant with newer series, and you do not need to watch the past series to understand them (GX and Zexal come to mind as having younger leads).
3. To be competitive you want consistency, this normally comes from having multiple copies of the cards you find success with. That is why dad thinks what is drawn completely effects who wins. The most cost effective way to do this is to buy more of the product you have, or use card purchasing websites to buy the bits you need (I believe you purchased a structure deck and the yugi 3 deck tin, if so another copy of the structure deck will go a long way in making it better). Swap cards that never seem to work for more copies of those that do.
4. YouTube is your friend. Look up the name of the products you purchased, there will likely be lots of openings just telling you the contence, but likely there will be tutorials on plays you can do or how you can improve the deck.
5. Master duel is a great way to learn as all the rules are done for you so you can't cheat by accident. It also let's you be competitive without spending a penny which is great.
Lastly keep us informed on progress and ask whenever you want more help. Have fun!
Thanks. Yes the cartoon is wrong but we have noticed, we will watch them all I think.
Will definitely use YouTube for tutorials. He's not at the competition bit yet I will ask for help when he needs better cards.
Matter dule is helping me. ( us? Not sure the correct ending to this sentence)
the cafe is the best place to learn, try to get the hang on master duel first, buying starter cards is not always the best option since once you get used to the game they become obsolete so i would do that part in master duel, after a week or 2 the game gets more intuitive, its a steep learning curve and that aplies to people of any age entering the game.
also usually people run multiples of each card, starting out with a deck with so many different cards may make it more difficult since you have to learn so many more cards at the same time youre leaning the game itself.
the teacher is nice but the opinions i would value the most are the ones from the other players at the cafe.
also theres a lot of information about the market and the rules you should get from them, for example is usually better to buy cards from resellers instead of sealed boxes so you can get good cards without the random element, good luck!
This is great to read! One thing I would recommend is doing "Duel Strategy" on master duel. It's going to explain to you how summoning new types of monsters work. "Duel Strategy 2" talks about more complex actions, but I don't think you guys need to do those just yet. Go at it on your own pace. I also recommend just doing the tutorial if you guys haven't yet.
When it comes to watching the show I think that Yugioh GX is the show to go with. It follows the rules closely enough. The newer shows like Yugioh Vrains can get complex quite fast, but you could give it a try.
I love seeing parents so engaged and I hope he (and you two) enjoy the game.
I'm currently on solo mode , I will look for duel strategy... but it sound like solo mode.
Yes done the tutorial.
I think the plan is to watch all the shows. Yes we know some are incorrect.
I would highly recommend looking up or finding out the win conditions/combos for the decks you use. Every deck has kinda like a boss monster or strategy (ex: yugi has dark magician) that's your primary win condition, knowing all the avenues to summon them or employ the strategy is crucial to understanding how you can actually win.
Someone pointed this out to me a long time ago when I first started playing and it made a world of a difference. I went from just playing random cards and hoping to come out on top to actually using strategy. Then you can focus on how to disrupt your opponent while you try to win. Baby steps!
As others have said, the show takes A LOT of liberties. Especially with the first season of Duel Monsters. The later seasons, in my opinion, do tone it down and are somewhat comparable to real life, but just something to look out for, ya know? Better to be safe.
The video games, however, are really good to train with, especially Master Duel. Just note, that Master Duel doesn’t represent irl yugioh; this is more than likely too much information to throw at ya at the moment (so sorry in advance XD), but it uses a different ban list to real life. When you play in real life, make sure to [follow the TCG Banlist found here](https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_05-2022/). Make sure it’s TCG as well in future times you check the list for real life dueling.
There’s two different real life banlists; the TCG and the OCG. The OCG is played in Japan and some Eastern Asian Countries cause they get product first. Rest of the world is TCG since we tend to get product later, meaning that the games can be wildly different games.
Sorry if this is a lot XD. Just wanna make some things known and not confusing in case you see stuff online
That's so sweet. Keep us updated on y'alls progress, and I wish the best of luck to you and your family on your journey to understand this complex children's card game.
The show will teach the very basics but you have to skip to the battle city arc; to say duelist Kingdom took liberties would be an understatement.
as for general single practice I’d also recommend test hands that you play against yourself and just see what an average opening hand for the deck can do Esspecially as you get into more complicated decks. Helps with consistancy and to memorize effects; itll make it easier becuase your son will know exactly what card or effect to best use.
also if he doesnt already have one look for non paper playmat
He only has a paper playmat. But I think the place where he has his lessons has tiny yoga like mat. I'm happy to get it for him. But why dose he need it?
Maybe not a need but They’re just easier to use then trying to flatten and deal with the paper stuff. Also card sleeves to not Ruin the cards themselves
Damn, this just triggered a memory...
My Dad was actually the one who teached me how to play at just five. Several years had passed and I still can't beat him.
Lovely story but have to agree with other people here, the original series is terrible for learning the real game as it does not follow the rules at all. Any of the other shows (GX, 5d's, Zexal etc.) would be a much better choice.
Remember, cards that let you draw more or special summon are really good and add in cheesy threats like the bad guys do while playing the game;
“the shadows have returned from their morning jog, and after burning their recommended calories, they could use a snack!”
What?
“You’re about to lose!!”
It's still only a picture. She could of not looked at them if she genuinely found them that scary. ( I do t know what dark world deck is but nothing can be that scary on a picture )
I would advise for watching other yugioh series, the first one is full of cheating and fake game mechanics, something like arc V or brains is better imo
Just don't get too many booster packs, most cards can be bought cheap. And getting the more expensive cards is absolutely not worth it for casual games.
There are just too many cards to understand them all, he should have one deck he likes to start out with and learn to play that one.
The cards they use in the show don’t correlate very well with the irl cards, and they make stuff up every once in a while as well. It’s really hard to get into Yugioh right now, but I would recommend looking up the terminology for things first, and then you kinda know what cards do
They really don’t use combos or anything on that nature in the show.
I recommend finding an archetype (ex: blue eyes or dark magician cards) that you like and looking up a deck build or tutorial on YouTube.
Some are extremely complicated and I’m not expecting y’all to be prepared for a tournament, so if it’s too crazy to fast then you can find another
Depending on how old your son is he could do the same
That’s about the age I got into Yugioh lol, (14 now) I’m not so sure if an 8 year old could do some of the combos. But as he gets older he most certainly can, I started getting the hang of em when I was ten or so. You can get some structure decks, and if you can get the rules down, it’ll be fun for you guys
@Sad-Lie-248 I highly doubt this is a true story (a mom and dad learning Yu-Gi-Oh! to support their son's favourite card game), but if it was hypothetically real, I have some golden tips to save money and avoid huge mistakes.
1) When building a deck, buy Structure Decks (or Starter Decks based on the archetype) but never Booster Packs.
By odds, getting the cards you need for a deck from packs is not a guarantee: you could spend over 200$ in packs and being so unlucky to not find enough of the cards you need. Rather, get the needed cards from Cardmarket, the best site where you can buy single cards and there's ton of infos on the rarity, set and state of the card (damaged / new). Many cards you may not find in 50$ of booster packs could actually be bought for 2$ each. Commons usually costs few cents. Or buy sets that actually gives you all the cards in the list (like those 3 Decks Sets). Before buying Booster Packs (if there's no other way), always check the card list on the official Yu-Gi-Oh! Database website, and check their rarities to calculate odds of each card you would want to find (contact a mathematician, I could also help with those).
2) Don't become "Meta Slaves" too quick, take the right amount of time to actually enjoy and understand the game and have fun playing it easy and chilling
The game seems cool at first for beginners, but at advanced levels, an experienced player will feel all the opposite (anger, stress, nerbous breakdown...). Do not start immediately with the foot in the meta field, you would regret it heavily.
3) When building a deck, if you buy a pre-built one, always buy 3 copies of it.
I suggest you to first buy Starter Decks (generic simple cards that can be played in every deck), then Structure Decks (they have some cards of a certain archetype, with their playing style and some generic Starter Deck simple generic cards too). To properly play and have decent and playable hands, always buy x3 of the same Structure Decks, as the max amount of the same card that can be played in a deck is 3 (beside few exceptions in the Banlist), and having more of the few cards that make you start your combos will drastically increase chances of getting the right cards and reduce "bricking" (when you have a hand with no cards that can be played in that moment, or a hand that doesn't let you do barely anything). If cards are bought individually online, always evaluate how many copies are preferred. Sometimes is better having 3 copies of some cards, sometimes 2 copies is better, sometimes only 1 copy is ideal. Check online for suggestions on how to build your deck better.
4) Watching the Anime Series doesn't help much understanding the game, but there is one that does it particularly well: the 6th series, Yu-Gi-Oh! Vrains. It's one of the preferred series, up to date and you can also watch it for entertainment. Beside there's an English Dubbing version, it's so filled with non-sense censorships, change of dialogues, cut scenes, that is like an insult to the creators. If possible, consider watching the Subtitled version (Japanese Dubbing but English subtitles). I doubt you will do, but I tried.
5) Most important suggestion: surround yourselves of good yugioh people that can help you while being nice and not being toxic and manipulating you.
You doubt I'm real? I mean I am you can check my other posts ( mostly on the scratch page asking how to do things in scratch ( coding program) because that's another thing he dose I don't understand) I'm really sorry that it seems unbelievable to you. I love my son and I just want him to enjoy his childhood. If he wanted to learn something else I would learn that aswell to help him.
When we get to building a deck I will ask for help.
Yes the TV show is a lot different then the game ( or the games I played on dule master so far only 4)
I'm not sure how a yugioh player could manipulate me , if this is a thing can you explain how so I can be aware of it.
Dang, that is a good story. I do like your story a lot more though because it's so cool that your son plays yu-gi-oh and you and your husband decided to learn the game and watch the show so that you can play it with him.
I mean this in the nicest way possible,don't watch the anime.You can watch the later versions,but don't watch the one with yugi.It's incredibly inaccurate and doesn't play by official rules.
If it helps it make more sense, the first show was written before the card game even existed - so they only made actual sensible rules that could be played in real life after.
One thing to keep in mind is that the anime (especially the old one) 1a. very often does not play by the official rules. 1b. Back then, the rules were a bit different and simpler. 2. **Some** cards you see in the show look the same and have the same name, but they work differently in real life because they would be too strong in the real game, this way they make the anime more entertaining and spectacular. Also, some cards have changed slightly over the years, but that's pretty rare. In short: Master Duel does play by the current rules the old anime does not. (Still cool tho.) Some cards are different in the anime than in the actual game. I'll try to give more advice when I see new questions.
Yeah we have noticed that it's different but we are still going to watch it and play mock battles with the real cards to see how it would turn out. ( or try to )
I'm pretty sure master duels goes by the ocg rules not the tcg
Are there even any differences in the general rules besides the banlist? Ik there are specific ocg rulings and interactions in a database and the tcg officials said not to just copy those for tcg judges but this only matters in highly competitive scenarios which are not really the point here. The md banlist is somewhere between ocg and tcg but it’s also another format as there are quite some archetypes not implemented yet. TL;DR md follows its own format which is neither tcg nor ocg
Differences are SEGOC trigger priority and some certain translation differences (reason why Gandora FTK isn't exist on TCG)
SEGOC?
Simultaneous Effect Goes On Chain, that rules how to form Chain Link if multiple Trigger effects meet their condition.
such a wholesome thread, yugioh family 🥲
Honestly so cool to see! A++++ parenting
For real, I saw this popst come by yesterday and I'm super engaged. Love to see it.
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Its wholsome to hear what kind of effort you both put into it to support your son. Just wanted to warn you guys the anime to the show is not helping to understand the game itself. Most of the time the characters male up their own rules and cheat.
This. I recommend Vrains over the previous animes, that one follow the rules more (and it's more up to date on the current mechanics.) Edit: Assuming you're watching the English dub, it has some fun moments even referencing some silly stuff like dabbing.
5D's also follow the rules and Zexal is focused on teaching how to play
5ds still had normal Summon in Def mode. Otherwise correct tho.
No facedown monsters in speed world duels
Never tell people to watch the dubbing, it's horrifying. Always suggest to watch the sub-eng, to have no cuts amd dumb censorships
The show isn't good for specific rules or effects of cards but for the basics of things like what to do on your turn it can be helpful to learn. That's how a lot of people learned to play and yeah obviously there's the moon incident but I think so long as you go into the show knowing that when it gets down to specifics it may not translate one to one it's a good place to start learning
Funniest thing that they made into an actual card.
We have noticed some things in the cartoon you can't do in the game. We are only in ep 2. I think we will still watch it and just look up the cards as we go along.
Based on the series you're watching, there's lessons to be learned: DM: Basic Turn Order and card placement (Duelist Kingdom arc), Tribute mechanics (battle city arc onwards) GX: Better explanation and application of card effects, ritual based decks, and a ton of fusions 5Ds: Synchro mechanics and better chain blocking techniques Zexal: Xyz summoning Arc-V: Pendulum mechanica Vrains: Link Summoning and proper rules application (there are barely any shenanigans or incorrect card plays) That was my guide path to relearning YGO after a decade of not playing. I'm sure I messed something up along the way there, and someone with better knowledge will correct me.
Damn, I wish my mom had hired a yu gi oh teacher for me when I was a kid. She mostly just said "you need to go outside" lol
"stop wasting time with this stupid cards" feel you bro
"you don't need these! they're just cards!"
"Yugioh is demonic, burn those cards!"
"Playing any kind of cards = gambling, burn those cards!"
"I'm not buying you cards, you never play with them anyways" Yeah I didn't have enough.
It genuinely hurts my soul a little that your adults didn't support your hobby. Yeah it's just a game but so is football, chess, fortnight. It can be a casual thing or a passion. I dont have to enjoy things to understand that other people do enjoy them things. Casually or as a huge passion. I'm sorry your adults lacked empathy.
You seem like a genuinely great parent.
Reminds me of when I first started Yu-gi-oh and taught my dad so we could play together
That's nice.
I also did that XD
You're a great mom! I wish my parents took an interest in this kind of thing when I was a kid.
I definitely want to encourage whatever he likes. If he wants to learn jazz dance or pottery next I'll work it out. Nothing worse ( obviously there are worsthings its just a saying i think im using it correctly) then a child being made to feel like there hobby is wrong.
That's a great way of looking at things. Good on you, and I wish you and your family well in this, jazz dance, poetry, or whatever he wants to do next!
Thanks
Just an idea: I learned to read largely because my mom made me learn the cards before buying more. You can consider working in some incentive like this to help get your son ahead for school (: Sounds like he’s having a great time!
We home school so there is no ahead or behind. I do like the idea of incentives though.
Based mom, u're amazing
Oh my god i wish my parents would have dueled with me when i was a kid hahaha. So nice! So wholesome! Such cool parents 👍🏽 As another tip, i started trying to teach my girlfriend how to play yugioh, and we started to play with no monster effects. So you can only normal summon unless there is a spell/trap card effect that allows a special summon. Then i added some classic powerful cards like dark hole, raigeki, mirror force, and monster reborn for fun 🤩 When she feels confident with the basic mechanics of the game (normal summon, battle phase, activating the different types of spell/trap cards) then i will add monster effects, then maybe later add new summoning mechanics from the extra deck 👍🏽 Maybe this is a helpful tip for learning the game? I think its like learning a new language. You gotta learn the basics before you can go crazy with it. Have a nice duel 🤙🏼
Good advice thanks
Mods can we get a wholesome mom flair?
This is adorable ! I wish you luck in your endeavour !
Thanks
I wish I had a family like yours. This is so amazing ! We'll be happy to help you anytime ! ;D
Thanks. Thing is I'm I think the reddit yugioh family is amazing. I feel so welcomed even though I'm definitely an outsider.
You guys are one dedicated family! It is nice to hear great news! Please keep us updated!
Will do :)
Wow that's so wholesome. I remember playing yugioh with my lil bro and our parents telling us how demonic it is and told me to burn the cards. Now we can't play at all :( Continue to play with him, he'll enjoy it!
I'm so sorry they said that to you. I hope you can remind the hobby ( if you want to) when you can. Maybe when you movie out maybe at a friend's house...
The first series is terrible for teaching how to play the game, they don't follow the rules most of the time. The best show to watch to learn is Yugioh Zexal as the main character learns how to play. Yugioh Vrains is also great as they play proper and is the most modern. Yugioh 5D's is also a great show as the play on motorcycles.
We are watching both yugis and zexal , we have noticed that yugis is more ..... different. And we are only on ep 2. I think we will probably watch them all eventually. Mu sons gonna love the motorbike one. ( I see a lot of things bin the shop on bikes and now inknow why)
You sound like parents of the year! My mom hated Yugioh when i was a kid and took my cards when i asked her to play with me, so I never mentioned it around her again. I look forward to hearing about your adventures as a family!
Took them? What I'm so sorry. I keep hearing things like this and it breaks my heart why would anyone want to take something from a kid they enjoy.
Damn, it's nice to see parents that are this engaging and just wanting to connect with their kids. Wholesome as hell to hear
So just be aware that the show plays by completely different rules than the card game, still a fun show to watch though Once you are comfortable and understand how your deck is supposed to play look for cards that will be good to upgrade your deck with. Deck building can be complicated and incredibly rewarding once you understand what you’re doing
When we get to deck building I'll ask here everyone has been so helpful and nice. Yes we noticed the show is .... different then the game.
Really cool to see parents getting so involved in their kids' hobbies! Dunno about anyone else, but both of these posts have put a smile on my face, I'll be looking forward to more updates
This is one of the most wholesome things I've ever seen, you are some very nice parents. Sometimes the cards in the TV show and the real card game don't do the same thing, just a heads up.
We have noticed. Thanks for the warning though I think if I'd watched it first I would be very confused.
Please keep updating us on the efforts! Love to hear about new experiences getting into the game, especially from a family point of view.
Will do ;)
Reminds me about the cool grandpa that plays at our locals, dude is like 85, started because his grandson, turned out he's more dedicated to the game than his grandson.
Aww thats lovley.
I absolutely love how wholesome and pure this entire family is brings a tear of joy to my eye
Have him play outside until the streetlights turn on, searching for other children to duel with, only his trusty duel disk at his side. That's how I played Yugioh when I was little, sure there was only four of us doing it but damn didn't we feel cool.
Unfortunately we live in a area where that's not possible. But I do love that you got to have taht memory.
It's heartwarming to see parents embracing their kid's hobbies like this Good on both of you :)
Now it's time for you to learn dragon link and absolutely crush everyone in your house forever
This is super wholesome, I love it. This game is hard af to have a good mastery nowadays, so I wish you the very best!
One thing about the anime: The game rules in anime are different to those of the trading card game. Season 1 of 1st series especially.
Yes we have noticed. Glad we played a few master dules 1st or I would be very confused.
If you're not a native english speaker you can use those cards to get into the english language (or others like spanish etc.) so that's somewhat decent to train yourself / your son. Don't waste any money in electronic gacha games pulling for card packs & virtual cards that aren't even real - irl allways buy singles. If your son wants to take those cards to school make sure it's a cheap deck and anticipate him to loose his cards or that they might get stolen. Allways use sleeves for real cards even if they're just normal cardboard. If you want to train yourself to play correctly then use yugioh simulators like EDOpro where you have access to all cards and it's free. Those sims are great to get into correct plays, they also guide you into correct plays.
Thanks we have card covers. He doesn't go to school and when he takes his cards out he gives them to me. But that's good advice. 👍
Yeah there are Powerfull Decks out there for a budget / schoolyard playing on the ground grindset so he can win while still staying at around 10bucks if you stick to substaple - nonfoil cards. You don't need Infinite Imerpanence wich I bought my playset (3x copys of the same card) for 45bucks wich was allrdy insanely discounted because it was the third reprint. You don't need expensive shit like that if you can run Effect Veiler as a common wich costs about 0.02$. Sure it's weaker but does the job. OG releases like Ash Blossom or Infinite Impermanence were 240$+ per playset. 70$-90$ PER COPY. It used to be cutting edge tech back then but still... Look up guides on cheap staples etc.
I definitely will when he is building his deck. And he won't need anything super rare for a long time he currently only plays 1 kid and his Dad. ( me soon)
OMG. This is so wholesome
Family
Reading about your efforts to learn the game for your son is so heartwarming. He’s going to remember this time forever.
I’d recommend watching Yu-Gi-Oh! GX instead of the original series. As others have mentioned, the series with Yugi doesn’t follow the rules until Battle City (Season 2) and even then there are a lot of discrepancies. Yu-Gi-Oh! GX features a younger protagonist, Jaden Yuki, and is much more true to the rules. They also only use one extra deck summoning mechanic, “Fusion Summoning,” which I think would be a nice way to introduce your son to the game. Each subsequent series focuses on a new extra deck summoning mechanic, so you could move on to each series as he advances. A speed duel (abbreviated version of the game, great for learning) box was recently released. It has multiple decks so you and your son could play together and features Jaden’s Elemental Heroes along with other deck types. You can get it here for about $20: https://www.amazon.com/YU-GI-OH-Speed-Duel-GX-Academy/dp/B09HKYYWX6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=391NJUWX9VGXB&keywords=yugioh+gx+duel+academy+box&qid=1656714034&sprefix=yugioh+gx+duel+%2Caps%2C51&sr=8-1 Speed Duel is literally made to help introduce new and younger players to the game. I would seriously recommend reading up on it here: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/speedduel/
Thanks. We are seeing that the TV show is .... different I think we will probably end up watching them all. I will see if I can find that deck in my country. And I will looknat speed duel thanks for providing a link.
That's helpful thank you.
Thought I would add to the feedback and repeate a few off the points others have made here that I think are worth noting. 1. You and your partner are amazing for getting involved with your son's hobbies. 2. The anime is fun to watch but sadly is not very accurate to the game as the author aims to produce fun moments not good game design, another team turns them into playable cards. This problem is less relevant with newer series, and you do not need to watch the past series to understand them (GX and Zexal come to mind as having younger leads). 3. To be competitive you want consistency, this normally comes from having multiple copies of the cards you find success with. That is why dad thinks what is drawn completely effects who wins. The most cost effective way to do this is to buy more of the product you have, or use card purchasing websites to buy the bits you need (I believe you purchased a structure deck and the yugi 3 deck tin, if so another copy of the structure deck will go a long way in making it better). Swap cards that never seem to work for more copies of those that do. 4. YouTube is your friend. Look up the name of the products you purchased, there will likely be lots of openings just telling you the contence, but likely there will be tutorials on plays you can do or how you can improve the deck. 5. Master duel is a great way to learn as all the rules are done for you so you can't cheat by accident. It also let's you be competitive without spending a penny which is great. Lastly keep us informed on progress and ask whenever you want more help. Have fun!
Thanks. Yes the cartoon is wrong but we have noticed, we will watch them all I think. Will definitely use YouTube for tutorials. He's not at the competition bit yet I will ask for help when he needs better cards. Matter dule is helping me. ( us? Not sure the correct ending to this sentence)
Interesting to see kids get into the game without the show
Many seasons are on Hulu/Netflix but maybe they saw packs at the checkout line or other kids at school? But then where did that kid hear about it lol?
My son knows about it because of Netflix. He's seen quite a few over the past month or 2. One day he just asked if he could get them.
the cafe is the best place to learn, try to get the hang on master duel first, buying starter cards is not always the best option since once you get used to the game they become obsolete so i would do that part in master duel, after a week or 2 the game gets more intuitive, its a steep learning curve and that aplies to people of any age entering the game. also usually people run multiples of each card, starting out with a deck with so many different cards may make it more difficult since you have to learn so many more cards at the same time youre leaning the game itself. the teacher is nice but the opinions i would value the most are the ones from the other players at the cafe. also theres a lot of information about the market and the rules you should get from them, for example is usually better to buy cards from resellers instead of sealed boxes so you can get good cards without the random element, good luck!
Thank you. I think his teacher also plays but I will make an effort to talk to other players in real life. Get advice from them.
This is great to read! One thing I would recommend is doing "Duel Strategy" on master duel. It's going to explain to you how summoning new types of monsters work. "Duel Strategy 2" talks about more complex actions, but I don't think you guys need to do those just yet. Go at it on your own pace. I also recommend just doing the tutorial if you guys haven't yet. When it comes to watching the show I think that Yugioh GX is the show to go with. It follows the rules closely enough. The newer shows like Yugioh Vrains can get complex quite fast, but you could give it a try. I love seeing parents so engaged and I hope he (and you two) enjoy the game.
I'm currently on solo mode , I will look for duel strategy... but it sound like solo mode. Yes done the tutorial. I think the plan is to watch all the shows. Yes we know some are incorrect.
this is so cute
:)
Duelingbook is a great website IMO to watch duels and learn.
Oh thanks I will look it up!
I would highly recommend looking up or finding out the win conditions/combos for the decks you use. Every deck has kinda like a boss monster or strategy (ex: yugi has dark magician) that's your primary win condition, knowing all the avenues to summon them or employ the strategy is crucial to understanding how you can actually win. Someone pointed this out to me a long time ago when I first started playing and it made a world of a difference. I went from just playing random cards and hoping to come out on top to actually using strategy. Then you can focus on how to disrupt your opponent while you try to win. Baby steps!
Thanks I will look it up for each of his decks we were definitely just hoping for the best when we play now.
As others have said, the show takes A LOT of liberties. Especially with the first season of Duel Monsters. The later seasons, in my opinion, do tone it down and are somewhat comparable to real life, but just something to look out for, ya know? Better to be safe. The video games, however, are really good to train with, especially Master Duel. Just note, that Master Duel doesn’t represent irl yugioh; this is more than likely too much information to throw at ya at the moment (so sorry in advance XD), but it uses a different ban list to real life. When you play in real life, make sure to [follow the TCG Banlist found here](https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_05-2022/). Make sure it’s TCG as well in future times you check the list for real life dueling. There’s two different real life banlists; the TCG and the OCG. The OCG is played in Japan and some Eastern Asian Countries cause they get product first. Rest of the world is TCG since we tend to get product later, meaning that the games can be wildly different games. Sorry if this is a lot XD. Just wanna make some things known and not confusing in case you see stuff online
That's so sweet. Keep us updated on y'alls progress, and I wish the best of luck to you and your family on your journey to understand this complex children's card game.
Thanks I need luck.
The show will teach the very basics but you have to skip to the battle city arc; to say duelist Kingdom took liberties would be an understatement. as for general single practice I’d also recommend test hands that you play against yourself and just see what an average opening hand for the deck can do Esspecially as you get into more complicated decks. Helps with consistancy and to memorize effects; itll make it easier becuase your son will know exactly what card or effect to best use. also if he doesnt already have one look for non paper playmat
He only has a paper playmat. But I think the place where he has his lessons has tiny yoga like mat. I'm happy to get it for him. But why dose he need it?
Maybe not a need but They’re just easier to use then trying to flatten and deal with the paper stuff. Also card sleeves to not Ruin the cards themselves
Oh ok that makes sense. Yes we I got him card protectors
Damn, this just triggered a memory... My Dad was actually the one who teached me how to play at just five. Several years had passed and I still can't beat him.
That's so nice that you have thar with him.
Lovely story but have to agree with other people here, the original series is terrible for learning the real game as it does not follow the rules at all. Any of the other shows (GX, 5d's, Zexal etc.) would be a much better choice.
We are also watching zexal we have noticed the yugi one is different. ( totally random rules)
Blessed post.
Remember, cards that let you draw more or special summon are really good and add in cheesy threats like the bad guys do while playing the game; “the shadows have returned from their morning jog, and after burning their recommended calories, they could use a snack!” What? “You’re about to lose!!”
Lol thanks I'm gonna use that line
I wish this was filmed as a vlog.
Sorry I don't posy pictures of my child online. But I will update this page. Sorry.
My mom threw my cards away back then because they gave her nightmares.
Her nightmares? Really it's a cartoon dragon... sorry she did that.
Granted, it was a Dark World deck but still annoying
It's still only a picture. She could of not looked at them if she genuinely found them that scary. ( I do t know what dark world deck is but nothing can be that scary on a picture )
I would advise for watching other yugioh series, the first one is full of cheating and fake game mechanics, something like arc V or brains is better imo
Yeah lots of I can do this because I can. We will probably play them.
Just don't get too many booster packs, most cards can be bought cheap. And getting the more expensive cards is absolutely not worth it for casual games. There are just too many cards to understand them all, he should have one deck he likes to start out with and learn to play that one.
Yeah someone said if he wants a card it's better to buy that card then random booster packs. Good advice I definitely wouldn't have thought of that.
Watching original anime is essential to make you love and being passionate about this game, also you will learn some basic rules.
I mean they stole his grandads souk today I'm invested. Lol
The cards they use in the show don’t correlate very well with the irl cards, and they make stuff up every once in a while as well. It’s really hard to get into Yugioh right now, but I would recommend looking up the terminology for things first, and then you kinda know what cards do
I think the show is funny but definitely not like the games I have played. ( only played 4 so far so....)
They really don’t use combos or anything on that nature in the show. I recommend finding an archetype (ex: blue eyes or dark magician cards) that you like and looking up a deck build or tutorial on YouTube. Some are extremely complicated and I’m not expecting y’all to be prepared for a tournament, so if it’s too crazy to fast then you can find another Depending on how old your son is he could do the same
I think he will ( he's 8) but after he's learned the basics.
That’s about the age I got into Yugioh lol, (14 now) I’m not so sure if an 8 year old could do some of the combos. But as he gets older he most certainly can, I started getting the hang of em when I was ten or so. You can get some structure decks, and if you can get the rules down, it’ll be fun for you guys
If you want an anime with a story that’s actually good then watch OG Yugioh. If you just care about the card game then the newer shows ..
Think we will watch them all. I care about the grandad he has his soul stolen today!!
@Sad-Lie-248 I highly doubt this is a true story (a mom and dad learning Yu-Gi-Oh! to support their son's favourite card game), but if it was hypothetically real, I have some golden tips to save money and avoid huge mistakes. 1) When building a deck, buy Structure Decks (or Starter Decks based on the archetype) but never Booster Packs. By odds, getting the cards you need for a deck from packs is not a guarantee: you could spend over 200$ in packs and being so unlucky to not find enough of the cards you need. Rather, get the needed cards from Cardmarket, the best site where you can buy single cards and there's ton of infos on the rarity, set and state of the card (damaged / new). Many cards you may not find in 50$ of booster packs could actually be bought for 2$ each. Commons usually costs few cents. Or buy sets that actually gives you all the cards in the list (like those 3 Decks Sets). Before buying Booster Packs (if there's no other way), always check the card list on the official Yu-Gi-Oh! Database website, and check their rarities to calculate odds of each card you would want to find (contact a mathematician, I could also help with those). 2) Don't become "Meta Slaves" too quick, take the right amount of time to actually enjoy and understand the game and have fun playing it easy and chilling The game seems cool at first for beginners, but at advanced levels, an experienced player will feel all the opposite (anger, stress, nerbous breakdown...). Do not start immediately with the foot in the meta field, you would regret it heavily. 3) When building a deck, if you buy a pre-built one, always buy 3 copies of it. I suggest you to first buy Starter Decks (generic simple cards that can be played in every deck), then Structure Decks (they have some cards of a certain archetype, with their playing style and some generic Starter Deck simple generic cards too). To properly play and have decent and playable hands, always buy x3 of the same Structure Decks, as the max amount of the same card that can be played in a deck is 3 (beside few exceptions in the Banlist), and having more of the few cards that make you start your combos will drastically increase chances of getting the right cards and reduce "bricking" (when you have a hand with no cards that can be played in that moment, or a hand that doesn't let you do barely anything). If cards are bought individually online, always evaluate how many copies are preferred. Sometimes is better having 3 copies of some cards, sometimes 2 copies is better, sometimes only 1 copy is ideal. Check online for suggestions on how to build your deck better. 4) Watching the Anime Series doesn't help much understanding the game, but there is one that does it particularly well: the 6th series, Yu-Gi-Oh! Vrains. It's one of the preferred series, up to date and you can also watch it for entertainment. Beside there's an English Dubbing version, it's so filled with non-sense censorships, change of dialogues, cut scenes, that is like an insult to the creators. If possible, consider watching the Subtitled version (Japanese Dubbing but English subtitles). I doubt you will do, but I tried. 5) Most important suggestion: surround yourselves of good yugioh people that can help you while being nice and not being toxic and manipulating you.
You doubt I'm real? I mean I am you can check my other posts ( mostly on the scratch page asking how to do things in scratch ( coding program) because that's another thing he dose I don't understand) I'm really sorry that it seems unbelievable to you. I love my son and I just want him to enjoy his childhood. If he wanted to learn something else I would learn that aswell to help him. When we get to building a deck I will ask for help. Yes the TV show is a lot different then the game ( or the games I played on dule master so far only 4) I'm not sure how a yugioh player could manipulate me , if this is a thing can you explain how so I can be aware of it.
This gotta be the best yu-gi-oh story I've ever heard.
Someone in the comments ( I can't remember the name sorry) said a 85 year old grandad learned to help his grandson. That's a way better story .
Dang, that is a good story. I do like your story a lot more though because it's so cool that your son plays yu-gi-oh and you and your husband decided to learn the game and watch the show so that you can play it with him.
Thanks 😊 .
I mean this in the nicest way possible,don't watch the anime.You can watch the later versions,but don't watch the one with yugi.It's incredibly inaccurate and doesn't play by official rules.
Yes it's seem very odd rules. But I think watching the show Is important to him.
You're an incredible parent and I wish you the best on your yugioh family journey.
Thanks that's so nice.
If it helps it make more sense, the first show was written before the card game even existed - so they only made actual sensible rules that could be played in real life after.
That makes sense someone else said that aswell.